How to Spot a (Potential) Fasc!st
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An introduction to The Authoritarian Personality study.
Timestamps:
0:00 Fascisticus Potentialicus
01:51 Introduction
05:07 Defining Fascism / Ur-Fascism
07:03 Antisemitism and Ethnocentrism
11:31 Fascism, Conservatism and Religion
16:09 The Authoritarian Personality
23:18 Conclusions
This month's episode of What the Theory? is an introduction to the Authoritarian Personality study, carried out by T.W. Adorno (a key member of the "Frankfurt School" and central force in the development of Critical Theory), Else Frenkel-Brunswick, Daniel J. Levinson and R. Nevitt Sanford at the University of California, Berkeley in 1950.
Following the end of World War 2, these four psychologists were interested in finding out what had motivated so many supposedly ordinary citizens in Germany (and elsewhere in Europe) to participate in the awful designs of the fascist regimes that had taken hold there.
Eventually, they laid out what they called The Authoritarian Personality, a set of personality traits which they argued might make some people more susceptible to fascist ideology than others.
This is what they found out...
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A couple of people in the comments have informed me that many Romani people consider the term g*psy (which I use toward the beginning of this video) a slur. This wasn't something I was aware of. So, obviously, sincere apologies to anyone who this might have offended. And, thank you to those who (all very gently) let me know that this is the case.
@@Tom_Nicholas Romani are a european nation. ironically are the most similar to original nomad indoeuropean peoples in 3000 BC. by the way irish Travellers (nomads too but with evident celtic heritage are called "gypsies"
These studies were done at the end of WWII, they should be repeated today, I really believe the results would be different in certain areas, especially when it comes to conservatism.
Where could I take this quiz and get my scores?
@@justinfreeman4614 yeah.good question.
My history teacher always said “once you start seeing someone as inferior, it’s easy to see more people that way.”
Yes, and it's really hard to stop. Specially if someone else keeps telling you that you are superior and others are lesser. And if even the state says it, and all the posters say it, and the flags and the crowds say it... It must be true.
Even on a small scale, say you are slighted at the food market, by... A woman, a black man or... Pretty much anyone with different features than yourself, and sometimes not even that. And in the moment you think this person to be your lesser, because "what would a WOMAN know.." or "Of course a BLACK man would..." These small tiny biases that you might not even think about exists in others too, and when these biases get together in an echo-chamber, it leads to death, be that by fascism or socialism.
I bet he was fired.
@Dr. Plop the plop doctor your philosophy ignores the entire branch of metaphysics, one of the most important factors to consider when discussing social issues.
@Dr. Plop the plop doctor Race is not something you can will away by merely referring to people as "JuSt HuMaNs". Why do Africans excel at professional football and basketball like no other demographic? Why do Asians seemingly dominate the American education system(to the point where they're penalized in US college admissions for being overrepresented)? Genetics are not going to disappear just because you don't like them.
@Dr. Plop the plop doctor As I said, you're denying a biological reality on the basis that it doesn't suit the way you'd like for things to be. Your only rebuttal is "nah I disagree" and then you misrepresent my argument as talking about culture instead of biology. And where did my comment say that I hate anyone? All I said is that race is an immutable characteristic (which it is).
I'm starting to get the feeling this isn't about birds at all...
*gasp*
impossible
This is the last time I trust a British person that isn't John Cleese.
Tom here does not know what fascism really is. Hitler was not a fascist. The Nazis were also not fascists. Fascists were basically National Marxist socialists. The international Marxists (Soviet union included) did not like that the Italian National Marxist socialists(fascists) were pro their own nation and Pro war. The fascists were basically Marxist patriots. The only thing distinguishing Marxists and fascists is that Marxists were internationalists and fascists were nationalists. Other than that there is no difference between them. This historian does a perfect job about explaining fascism: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
@@sabhishek9289 yeah you are way smarter than thousand of phd groduates lol modi facist
@@scienceium5233 "thousand of phd groduate"
I'm also a phd graduate.
"sounds like... like a dog whistle."
Fucking excellent line. 7/5
@@hasanpiker9472 Other fascists and those who hunt them by their call.
@Hasan Piker conservatives don’t point them out as dog whistles because that would kinda defeat the purpose for them
@Hasan Piker there's a simple solution here, conservatives should act in good faith and learn to spot dog whistles, because if they were actually against fascism, it would really help them to understand what fascist dog whistles are, what they look like/sound like, and what makes a dog whistle work in the way it does. It would help deal with the pesky issue of cryptofascism. Because whether or not you're gonna try to tie fascism to left wing dialogue, you should at the very least understand the tool. But I think it's probably easier for you to just claim the dog whistles aren't there, instead of seeing the 14/88s, the ((()))'s, blood and soils, etc.
@Hasan Piker because the point of the cryptofascists is to read the dog whistles and actively choice to pretend they don't exist, it doesn't exactly help fascists politically if they started giving away their secrets on what a dog whistle is, which makes the contradiction of your beliefs more apparent
@Hasan Piker you've ever seen dog pointing at dog whistle? No, dogs just hear them like every other sound and follow it. They can't see any difference in nature between this and any other sound around it. Just like conservatives can't see difference between news and things Tucker Carlson says on air.
How to spot a fascist:
Step 1- go to the TH-cam comment section
Step 2 - sort by new
facism> communism
@@igor-oh9eo Just going along with what you're saying. Who... Cares?
Why'd you want to pick between bubonic plague and cholera when you can choose so many different variations of neither?
reporting in
@@lunatheluma3804 sort by new is definitely the trick. All my posts are hidden otherwise
I love the idea that a bunch of psychologists got together to scientifically prove that fascists are assholes.
„Ideologies are like arseholes: everyone's got one, we use it every day, but you very rarely look at your own unless something's gone wrong.“ - Abigail Thorn _Jordan Peterson's Ideology_ | Philosophy Tube th-cam.com/video/m81q-ZkfBm0/w-d-xo.html, 09.04.2021
@@KaiHenningsen the right haven't found the right hole in about 200 so years
@Sir Sir "nice" according to your values... what people consider "nice" is subjective.
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 that's not true. I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that "nice" = 69.
@@duffman18 Can't argue with that...
Maybe the real fascists were the friends we made along the way.
So Antifa?
The Socialists who want to reorganise a society for some non existent utopia..only they believe in, or is that Communism? it's so close.
@@duality5503 not a utopian idea anymore. But one I believe is far better than capitalism
@ASD ASD im not going to lay out all aspects of socialism just to prove a point.
@precizion i know
"Sounds a bit like a dog whistle" is the single hardest hitting throw away joke I've heard in a while
Thank you for closed captioning. I am hearing impaired and it really help me understand the lesson better.
I second this! I'm neurodivergent and tend to have difficulty maintaining focus on what is being said over what I'm seeing or thinking in relation to the topic. Having clear and coherent captions helps me to capture and process so much more of what is being said!
Im here 1 year later and where the hell did those captions go 😭😭
‘But are there not many fascists in your country?'
'There are many who do not know they are fascists but will find it out when the time comes.'”
Ernest Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls
This is a very apt quote. I’ve never read any Hemingway but perhaps should...
@@Tom_Nicholas As an American, I can relate to your video! The difference between fascist of yesteryear found in Europe and the fascists in my country is that today they wrap themselves with the American flag and insist their ethnocentric and bigoted views are god-given, but its born from a presumption of this puritan view of what must be. It's a mentality like you stated. They usually begin their argument of why we must accept authoritarian rule through a lens of apocalyptic conclusions and work backwards from their conclusion to find evidence to their statements. There is a belief that God ordained them to be infallible and their ignorance is a virtue. The idea for example of wearing a mask to protect oneself and their community from Covid-19 is a matter of freedom, but also as a way to own the leftists. The idea that those that die are deserving of it, because they're weak. Also it's a twisted inflated ego with a irrational confidence of their own ability to judge the world around them.... As you said it's their personality and how they arrived to these views, but you also should factor more about peer pressure within a community which breeds this mentality, and the family that devalues and often despises critical thinking. Within their bubble of conventional thinking there is a explicit hatred of those who are deemed sexual deviants i.e homosexuals and transsexuals. You briefly mention it, but I think that's a bigger factor. The people I know who have the most fascistic views are often severely sexually repressed and find masturbation and any sexual gratification outside the purpose of procreation as disgusting. This causes severe aggression to any perceived out group that has a means to express themselves in such manner. Pornhub did a study of the most conservative areas in the USA and found that those areas often had the highest views of "deviant pornography." In your video it should be the first and one of the biggest factors in rural America's fascistic views. I know it sounds weird, but if you talk to conservatives stateside the more they focus on 'manhood' and the role of the woman the more likely they are to express fascistic views. You should listen to Donald Trump's supporters on why he's great and why minorities need extermination. It's insane how psychologically damaged many are and how they see the world in absolutist terms. This commitment to contrarian views is seen as illogical by outside groups, but in the right wing circles it's necessary to hold contradictory views like - 2nd Amendment gives us the right to own guns to stop a potentially repressive government, but a repressive government that exterminates the right kinds of people is needed and justified. As a Latino in the USA, I often find their illogical arguments amusing, but don't be surprised should America become an outright fascist state within the near future.
Xavier2291 damn. as a fellow american, you pretty much just summed up the entire state of the right here in a comment
Sounds like Chile. And I don't like it.
@Azazel Acheron "Corporation" means something totally different under fascism. It's basically an economic guild that serves the state. "Private property" is only allowed to the extent that it serves the nation and promotes its values.
The truly scary thing is that virtually any person can express these traits in a state of fear and/or anger.
"in a state of fear and/or anger."
This is not only a cool but also a needed and important play on words.
It's almost as if their is a meaning behind reactionary. Are you people absolutely brain-dead? The far-right is literally a creation of an over-arching left-wing. The only reason the Nazis ever gained power was because the left wing in Wiemar had absolutely decimated their own nation. When the people no longer were willing to play along they started beating them. I'm not saying it was ok but just like an ass-whipping "reactions" don't fall from the sky.
@@maniswil2 I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about...
When did the left-wing decimate their own population? When the right-wing Kaiserreich started WWI or when the right-wing Freikorps went around murdering people?
Well it's true
Most of those cases have their origin from a trauma
For example if a bald person attacked you then your mind will make you feel afraid of bald people as a defense mechanism, and it can easily evolve into hatred in a "it's either them or me" mindset
90% of cases isn't just because you were an asshole and wake up wanting to be one, it was just your mind driving you towards that path in order to not repeat that situation locked and grabbing dust in your memory
@@GarkKahn Cat's in sweden has no fear of cuccumbers, there are no deadly snakes here so the cat mother dosen't teach them to fear them.
You can teach a child to fear and hate any group if you present them as a treath.
This was quite an interesting video to watch/listen. I feel the most worrying trait I've observed of people is the willingness to blindly follow people, that group is easy to take advantage of :/
Even worse is that, the blindest followers are the ones who are unaware they are blindly following. They think their ideas are their own. They get viciously defensive if you point out they're expressing strong opinions that only materialized at the same time when it became advantageous to their political leaders for the public to believe that.
@Wemple’s Temple I wouldn't say mainly exploited by the right wing. They're exploited by all sorts of hucksters, big and small. The corporate uniparty, and little online cult leaders. Remember all the arson in 2020? Not Trump's posse.
@Wemple’s Temple people from all directions are exploiting them, even some who don't realise it. The problem lies in the inability to see things from an outside group's perspective and those considered an enemy of the group. Think about how these scientists got facist-leaning opinions in order to figure out what lead to that thinking. No matter how "bad" you think someone is, whether they lie on the other side of the political spectrum or are straight-up racist, looking at the world through their lens with an open mind will help you understand the reason for their beliefs, letting you challenge them directly, and maybe even give you insight that someone on your side would miss.
@Wemple’s Temple Could you name a few communities so I can understand what exactly you mean?
@@templarlad392 almost all far right and far left political communities
Fortunately, my parents were never successful in fully convincing me that any authority was immune from question for the only reason that it is in authority. I so love Timothy Snyder (and Eccho) for the expression of how unearned authority should be challenged. I have made my share of political adversaries that way.
The whole point of fascism is earned authority and anit-materialism
@@AeneasRebornFascist Dictators only have to earn their authority once in a blue moon. Democratic leaders do so every election, and many times more.
Fascist Dictators throughout history have always been self-serving. Democratic leaders have often been the same, but many more have also served their communities.
The irony will never be more deafening than when millions of people describe the enemy as the actions of themselves without knowing it
*cough* antifa *cough*
@@dylanroemmele906 using violence to combat fascism makes you fascist? Guess America really is fascist then
*typo, left out the n in then
@@themanwiththeplan3793 Khaos has corrupted you if you believe that
@@dylanroemmele906 Ah, yes, because decentralized organizing and violence as a means of combating fascism is fascis... Pfffft, maybe try learning WTF fascism is
@@AslanW if you are silencing others that have a different opinion than you with violence, that is fascism in its simplest form.
I think we need a study on why Americans are so trusting of people with British accents. Great video though!
Because traditionally american society has only heard from the smart ones (eg BBC, PBS). That's changing, this video is evidence of that.
They didn't watch top Gear
I usually associate British accents with pseudointellectualism
@@dmay3391 These days, the BBC is hot garbage.
*English Accent
Who knew that a video breaking down fascism would attract fascists? :P
🙋🏻
They seem young and not very bright.
were growing
@@sonnypls8337 *we're
Its not really breaking down fascism, its pointing at morally questionable ideals and calling them fascist based on the demos of the person aspousing them. You people will never call a black supremacist a fascist, frankly you people don't know the difference between a fascist and an ultraliberal.
One of the most wild conclusions from this was in Martha Nussbaum's "Anger and Forgiveness". She argues that in Germany it makes sense to have laws prohibiting hate speech and racist rhetoric because Germany's history and culture that created these "authoritarian personalities." But that in the U.S. it would be an unfair overstepping of rights because the U.S. is not at threat of ever harbouring any successful racist or fascist political movements. And she indeed further stated that racism was impossible in the States as anything more than personal prejudice and the "bad actions" of some cops. 😑😮💨
As the cool internet kids say today "that's some bare copium she be smokin".
Laws against speech are retarded.
I mean she’s right. Freedom of speech includes so called “hate speech”
@TACTICALwaffle2 you've missed a huge detail. Nussbaum argues hate speech is fairly prohibited in one country, and would be unfairly prohibited in another.
@@HeavenlyEchoVirus I haven’t missed any details because I’m only talking about America. Freedom of speech is a uniquely US thing, no other country truly has freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is actually freedom from the government prohibiting speech, so yes it would be unfair to prohibit speech in the US. It seems like you disagree with that though and would love to police what others say
i like how you didnt just cite your source, you explained their theoretical basis AND their methodology. your videos are always so thorough and informative, thanks tom!
Yes...perhaps too thorough
using his PhD in good use
If only somebody could be informative and teach you how to use capital letters
bruh its actually real frustrating when someone makes assertions and sends you on a side quest to find the source
@@dahleno2014 no capital here brother🔓⛓
I could tell this guy was British from the thumbnail
Fascist ok fash
Lol same. I don’t know how I’ve missed this guy until now. This is solid content.
I couldn't.
@@skopskiet
Spotted the Yank...
@@skopskiet never said he was pathetic
As someone who was very auth right earlier in life I can confirm I had atleast most of these traits… I still have one or two of them today, clearly something I’ll have to work on
What caused you to go down a different path and end up where you are today?
good on you, proud of you for that. it’s very hard to break your worldview
@@Willow.9765 well for one, im trans and gay and repressing those parts of me hurt me alot and second i took time away from politcal spaces due to quite severe mental health issues and reassessed my stances
@@thegoosling8947look into the enneagram 9 personality types. Understand that part of your temperament was simply born alongside you and there's little you can do.
However you can take these feelings and thoughts and use them in positive ways.
The kind of person who finds great injustice in this world and sees problems every where (especially within themselves) can do great good in this world when focused properly like Batman, MLK, Malcolm X. But when you give in to your basest desires you are capable of great atrocities think Thanos or Hitler.
It's work but will lead to a better more fulfilling life and who knows, maybe you'll make the world a little bit better and that's not too shabby.
@@hajihajiwa or maybe that worldview sis imply correct
I actually really enjoyed the bird watching narrative. Very clever. And highly entertaining.
Birds aren't real
@@GaryGillKeeperok and?
You mean horses ?@@GaryGillKeeper
The video title could literally be 'why fascism is bad' and the like-dislike ratio would still be appalling
#FoxNews
because online fashies are pathetic and have nothing else to do
@@commodorjack8633 why would you think so ? As far as I see, most people have become deracinated from any thoughts of taking action, or at least any thought of political involvement. Lots of lazy consumers out there right now. So it would be pretty dishonest to generalize that only one ideological group has faults because of a personal bias.
@@eternalflame8104 fascists aren't the only lazy and perpetually online group, but they are particularly lazy and perpetually online
Right wingers stick together and act as a group more effectively than other groups. If you say F Nazi's they'll get together to dislike, one great way to spot them.
My dude looks like he’s both 5 & 20 years old
And 40 as well
hahahaha. Now I can't unsee it.
STOP THIS IS SO TRUE
My guess is between 18and 25. I'm guessing this range n for two reasons. $1 The older I get the younger others look so to me he appears to be in his early teens in the 13 and 16 range so I added a few years. #2 He sounds like a college student so I would think probably in that age range although he appears much younger to me.
Is this really the top comment?
Just found your channel and probably for the first time I feel like I found a creator that reflects and expands my views exactly. Thank you for your interesting work!
there is a catch in the video, he never told, Adorno and the others created the School for the New Marxism, or also known as The Frankfurt School, they are communists, they laid out the basis for the woke movement. That is why this guy is just teaching you propaganda
@@TheEdudo so "facists are racist" is propaganda now?
@@kaidoust4145 as always have been. You better really study the differences between fascism and NS, and the origins deep rooted in Darwin´s theory of evolution. Do not take this video pamphlet seriously
@@TheEdudo Name a fascist state that did not suppose the "natural born" members of that state to be inherently superior to all others.
@@kaidoust4145yep, if you actually read about fascism its a different type of government to national socialism. Fascism espouces conservatism but it isnt necessarily racial. Its meant to function as a "national rejuvination" ideology. It views the Nation, not the Race. You can see this reflected in Egelbert Dollfuss' Austria which was in alliance with the Jewish minority against the National Socialists in Austria.
I realised that this is not a bird video
Birds aren't real
*The Authoritarian Personality*
1. Conventionalism 17:49
2. Authoritarian Submission 18:09
3. Authoritarian Aggression 18:44
4. Anti-intraception 19:12
5. Stereotypy 19:39
6. Power and Toughness 20:14
7. Destructiveness and Cynicism 21:07
8. Projectivity 21:32
9. 'Sex' 22:14
I’m more with the Anime Minshevics
@@7LegSpiders fascism is inherently right wing. Your characterizations of the left are pretty silly too, I mean conceptually and on an individual basis. We’re talking about fascism: a very specific ideology. And you’re comparing it to the left: an umbrella term for a wide array of progressive ideologies. Nobody here said fascism is right wing by cherry-picking different groups on the right. They looked at what fascists specifically believe and went from there to determine where the ideology itself sits on the spectrum. You’re trying to revere engineer the logic to fit your narrative.
1. Conventionalism refers to adhering to traditional views. That is the opposite of what the left stands for. Conventionalism is not tribalism.
2. Sure, there are authoritarians on the left too, but to be considered fascist there has to be more proof than “some of them are authoritarian”.
3. Nobody is being jailed simply for having the “wrong” beliefs by leftists. The left isn’t using the state to punish anyone. Yes, sometimes people gather on social media and complain about offensive rhetoric. Sometimes people get fired from their jobs (which is a capitalist company worrying about their bottom line)
4. I’m not even sure what you’re getting at here. Sounds like you’re claiming that what you’re saying is objective, but it’s far from it.
5. I’m not sure how anti-white sentiments are inherent to any prominent leftist ideologies. Seems like you guys always have to point to a handful of crazies on Twitter to back up this claim.
6. I don’t want you to wear a mask as an exercise in domination. I want you to wear a mask so my grandma has less of a chance of getting sick at the grocery store.
7. Defund the police typically means stop putting all our resources in armed police officers that have to do the job of enforcing the law AND being a social worker, something they’re not trained to do. It’s about making communities safer, not destroying them.
8. People believe SOME conservatives want to destroy everything because they’re acting increasingly anti-democratic. They’re undermining the system in an attempt to maintain control. This isn’t up for debate at this point. The election fraud conspiracy in the U.S. was a lie spun by prominent conservative figures.
9. The point of this one is that fascists uphold traditional values. Having untraditional sex bad. Procreation or nothing. This is literally the opposite of what the left is doing for the lgbtq+ community.
If you want to argue that some leftists are bad, that’s fine. But they aren’t fascists.
sex
I wonder if due to traits like:"power and toughness", which men value more, they are also more likely to become fascist
@@7LegSpiders But it's true that the cult of toughness, alpha males etc. speaks mainly to men, you can also see at those "pro-white" rallies etc. Many of those "straight parades" were also JUST men. There is far greater men to female ratio than for example, during a pride parade. I am not putting myself at a pedestal or anything, it's just an observation. Toxic masculinity, the comfort of "traditional values" that appeal more to men, are the causes for this I presume.
Thanks for the video! It was very informative... though I don't think most people would find it terribly surprising that the psychological profile of people-most-likely-to-be-fascists is "self-righteous racists who aren't great at using their critical thinking skills".
"though I don't think most people would find it terribly surprising"
Sometimes I don't think. Usually when I am asleep.
This is the kind of stuff that radicalizes people, instead of approaching something with any kind of dialogue to try and convince someone that they are wrong they have blind hatred tossed at them because of there beliefs. It doesn't matter if the beliefs are immoral or unethical all you are doing by insulting and belittling these people is proving every single bias they have against you right. All you're doing is perpetuating the ideology you hate by blatantly painting every person with the same brush and putting yourself on a pedestal as the ideal with zero proof given besides "you guys are all self righteous babies"
@@jyro6095 Eventually it leads to war with every faction not just sure of their own rightness, but suddenly possessing a righteous duty to eliminate every other kind. Hutu versus Tutsi. Serbs versus Croats. Can you tell them apart? Can THEY tell each other apart?
I think that's a very bad way of interpretating who is vulnerable to fascist ideas. Like that isn't what is being said.
@@jyro6095 That's like saying "World War 2 wouldn't happen if everyone just sat Hitler down and had a talk with him to show him that his beliefs are wrong." Sure, it's preferrable to have an open dialogue first but fascists and racists are, for most part, utterly uninterested in having an honest conversation with those from the out-groups. Their only interest is to subjugate or exterminate those out-groups. If they do engage in a conversation they are never honest, engaging in sealioning and wasting the opposition's time by running in circles.
Nice work on the video Tom! Great depth in content, delivery simplicity, and tone and tempo. Cheers and please keep it up.
0:30 When typed out, binomial names should be italicized, and only the first letter of the generic name (the genus) should be capitalized. When handwritten the two names are not italicized, but are instead underlined, but only the names. The space between the generic and specific (species) names is not underlined.
It's not a actual binomial name
I'm so scared, a month ago I woke up in a fascist country (Russia). Families are falling apart because of their political views, conservative students report on their liberal teachers. I read that history repeats itself, but seeing it with my own eyes is terrifying. It could be foreshadowed, but I was always hoping for the best.
The clue to the problem is education - how the way of thinking of that or this particular human being has been established. Logic, analysis, self-reflection, question-based way of exploring life will help to preserve our society from f..ism phenomena in future for sure.
@ניקאָלאַי ברומאָווסקי you glad to live among nazis?
Antifa is active in Russia currently, if you are afraid of putin, go join or support them.
I don’t know how long exactly this was posted but I hope you are doing well despite everything going on in your country
Lmao Russia being fascist is a massive joke, as it Russia would be fascist, just because you don't agree with United Russia (fyi its better than the opposition)
I definitely had an authoritarian personality only a few years ago.
And after watching this video, I am aware I'm still not fully rid of that personality type.
I'm glad you're working on it! I have also been through change and this other side has been empowering and helped heal some mental health issues!
Knowing is half the battle. You've got more self awareness than most people so I think you'll be fine!
Congratulations, you've successfully lied to yourself!
So you're going against your own nature then?
@@KillBlueHelmets
Yes. And that is good in this case.
Are you going to respond with a comment that is essentially based on the "appeal to nature" naturalistic logical fallacy? If so, I'm looking forward to it.
Reasonably fair examination and explanation. You mostly prevented framing this in terms of your own political worldview.
There is a construct called disgust sensitivity that I've heard mentioned as a core trait of fascism; Is that something represented with the constellation of traits you mentioned?
It’s kinda ironic a video on fascists has brought all the fascists out going “good I hope you die” or “good you are all degenerates”
Like for a bunch of people they pull the “you call everyone you disagree with fascists” you sure are getting ultra defensive about fascists…
Hmm if it quacks like a duck…
Seriously, what happened to this video within the algorithm? Why is there a sudden surge of fascism apologists in the comment section over the past few months?
5:50 "A view of social relations that hold that life is permanent warfare between the powerful and powerless" (anxiously glances at all the business students reading The Art of War)
48 Laws of Power
Sigma male grindset 💯 😤👌💪
Get that bag son 💯
I wake up to grind
You wake up to wagecuck
We are not the same 💯 💪👌😤😂😂🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
Its weird to say it, but I dont think most people in business school today even know who Sun Tzu or what The Art of War is.
Or Marxist going on about the oppressor and the oppressed?
Oh man, that comment hurt physically. Do you not have any limits to your cringyness?
@@Azathoth43 except marxists do believe class can ultimately be abolished meanwhile fascists depend on having a common enemy to gang up against
I can't believe I'm learning about facism after listening to a podcast about Anime
I thought the podcast was about shitting and bidets?
Trash taste gang!
This says a lot about society
I just got recommended this! Lols
i fuck with this
Really interesting video. I also feel like most people are broadly politically apathetic. That they'll go along with whatever the majority are doing. So these potential fascists would form the active collaborators but most people will be passive bystanders, as long as they can get on with their lives.
Frightening, but true.
Great video! Thank you. I would love to see a series of videos where each of the personality types are reflected on in greater detail with a look at childhood development and the psychological theories around hostility and aggression.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
If you jack off into the abyss, itll probably say 'Ew.. are you alright?'
That's why I gaze at monsters and fight abysses. Keep em guessin'.
“… while plumbing its *Deaths.”*
"sounds a bit like a...dogwhistle." snazzy
The reason it's called a dogwhistle is because only the "dogs" can hear it. Probably not a good choice of vocabulary.
@@captainphoenix It sounds like "Woooooooooosh"
It's a left-wing invention used to attack as racists people that have neither said nor done anything racist. The people they use it on are exclusively people who are disliked by actual Nativists.
@@Nemophilist850 Actually it's a right-wing invention by Southern Dixiecrats in the 60s to signal pro-segregation politics without pissing off moderates. Things like "Urban community", "hood", "Chicago", even "baggy jeans" so that politicians can say "Blacks" without actually saying black people. It's meant to be vague so that moderates can sort of nod their head and go "that sounds reasonable", while the actual racists get to still be racist.
@@cf3714 There's no such thing as dog whistle politics, there never has been. It amounts to a leftist conspiracy theory.
I know this video is two years old, but I'm glad youtube recommend me this video, very informative.
i stopped paying attention to the video about a minute in because i was too busy reading comments
You're like SFW, or Less Thirsty PhilosophyTube, and frankly I admire the hell out of it.
Haha, the last thing anyone needs is to see me in the bath...
But the thirst is the best part of philosophy tube.
@@Nanook128 honestly
Well, why not? :D
@@Nanook128 the thirst for clear understanding. ....admittedly the line between the types of thirsts blurs a lot th-cam.com/video/l5S1fftQe28/w-d-xo.html
in South Texas a gunman was not stopped by police while 19 children and 2 teachers were executed . the police would not allow anyone to try to save the students their own children . thank you for this i am non conformist and anti-war activist , but know suffer from a slight case of Stockholm syndrome and no longer able to leave my apartment from too much torture . this is really helpful to remind me of my original values .
Dude are you okay!?!
@@skygard49 the answer is definitely no. someone hit up the FBI
A fascist wants to disarm the people like the Nazi's did.
You ok?
@@thorbjornson533 anyone but them they train these guys to do fucked shit 😭
Good thing about having this neutral description is that you can check yourself and your friends wether they are on the left or the right
Aren't you ashamed of your illiteracy?
When centrists equate the radical left and the radical right as if equality and genocide are comparable.
What's up with that?
fear of radicalism in general is a hell of a drug to them I think
But the question is, how will we achieve equality? Gradually? Or by force and starting from scratch?
They read Animal Farm but didn't realize the author was a socialist.
Or rather, they confuse the radical left with the authoritarian left.
The psychologists that published this book in 1950 must have performed the formal research during the mid to late 40's but, having lived through the rise of Hitler some of them would have been informed by personal experience going back to the 30's and maybe earlier. I mentally noted while watching the video how many of the factors present in pre-war Germany are present in present day USA -- I found myself ticking off many boxes of similarity, too many boxes, way too many boxes.
Someone said that when fascism comes to America it will come wrapped in the flag and carrying a bible. Sound familiar?
Now, how many of those factors were present in pre-war America? Especially in the immediate aftermath of the onset of the Great Depression, it was far, far, far more. However, America did not fall into Fascism then, just as it is not about to now.
The state itself is an inherently authoritarian concept, of course, so in that sense its current neoliberal phase, that has lasted since the 70s at least, should strike parallels with any other authoritarian.
The Frankfurt School was not an unbiased group of scientists like you seem to think, it was a political group with political goals who matched their research to their argument not the argument to the research.
@@0scarWalsh "The dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States, and yet lands only in Europe"
Psychologists and experts, always write a book about the subject after the event has taken place.
Maybe it would be far more advantages to discuss amongst themselves and write the book, pre event and not twenty odd years after?
Judging from some of the statements offered in the questionnaire, I don't feel comforted that most people are "centrist" about Jews and other minority groups.
I don't understand is that a bad thing
Fish hook theory is fun. That centrists will love fascists over moderate right wingers, because fascists promise a perfection of status quo and combatting against any social changes
@CMDR Beamee This is quite literally a logical fallacy
@@bubblegumbabeface6629 which one?
@@cwac doesn’t need a name. Centrism by its very nature cannot be extreme, therefor fascism, an extreme ideology, can never truly be centrist. The fallacy is that the statement is a contradiction.
I think I might have an interesting thing to add as far as the contradiction with destructive cynicism and conventionalism.
When I was fresh out of high school I was one bad friend away from being a full on neo nazi and would identify myself as a white nationalist. the destruction and cynicism wasn't me wanting to see what strength would rise from the ashes, it was me being fully confident that my ideals were objectively correct, and would win while also in effect eliminating the undesirable parts of society. I felt at the time that the US should be a white ethnostate, I didn't want destruction for destruction's sake, I wanted it so that anybody that stood in the way of that goal would hypothetically be out of the picture and allow the "True" Americans step in and handle it.
When it's deconstructed you can almost think of it like a diet genocide, and was used in a dog whistle sort of way by myself and others but also as a literal sentiment that was much easier for mainstream right wingers to handle. If somebody tells you they want to eradicate non whites that's a huge no no even for most only slightly racist people, but the whole strong men weak times etc. bullshit is easy to peddle and easy to radicalize people from if they take it really seriously.
It's anecdotal for sure, and I may not be remembering it 100% because it was a long time ago (and a lot of personal growth). That being said fuck fascists and have a great day
I guess it's a better example of how people are radicalized from these 'potential' personalities.
Seeing a lot of those types with all the hate I get being trans.
with hate you mean a bilogy lession ?
@@marvin2678Aww how cute the bigot can't even spell "biology" correctly.
Another interesting thing you sort of met at a tangent was the idea of the existence of different types of American conservative. This is something I am no expert in but have noticed in the past (I used to be pretty politically active). The basic idea is that there are two kinds of people who could theoretically both be labeled "conservative" in the united states but generally hold polar opposite views. The first is the more authoritarian conservative who is more likely to desire an authoritative leader, express strong religious views, and demand cultural conformity. The second is, from my perspective at least, a unique product of American history. The founding principles of the United States historically have been a separation of church and state, the assumption of human equality, limited government authority, etc. All very not facist ideas, but since these are generally consider the "old ways" of America anyone who firmly holds onto those principles in the United States is technically considered a conservative. This may be why the scales get a little funky when you look at conservatives. I'd be interested to see if that happens in Europe or other parts of the world.
The second ones are generally called liberals, because the actual name of this line of though is "Liberalism" americans just messed the concepts.
Classic liberalism means capitalism, but with unlimited liberty, freedom of speech, etcetera.
Classic liberals were predominantly businessmen, traders, industrialists, and were the first ones to condemn slavery and I consider myself one. The current meaning for the word "Liberal" in the US is a misconception.
It's a shame that leftwingers can't tell the difference, when it's a night and day difference.
@@joaocarlospartel8867 I miss the good old days when "liberal" actually meant something, until Obama came along and militarized the police. Nowadays liberals are just Karens calling the police over everything.
This is an important observation you have made
Us conservatives have been trying to tell you guys this ever since you started labeling *all* of us as (pOtEnTiAL) fascists.
@19:14 Anti-intraception, THANK YOU! I have been looking for that word for years! I always found it weird that some people had such an aggressive reaction to that kind of thing and now I have a word for it, sweet! :)
Also, I think you hit the nail on the head at the end there. This, like many things in life, *_will absolutely_* require a much more nuanced conversation than we usually have. The problem is that fascists are, almost by design, incredibly adverse to having that conversation, or even allowing that conversation to be had at all.
Not sure where your other comment about religion went, but I wrote a response and will post it here haha.
Well it depends on what you define as a religion I guess. Personally, I lump religion together with all other human illusions, that even atheist believe in, like free will. It gets worse though. Have you heard of solipsism? The idea is that none of us has a proof that anyone but ourselves is even conscious. Meaning that we all live our lives assuming without any evidence that we are not alone in this universe. So, if one of the fundamentals of our existence is based on a convenient assumption, who are we to judge the religious?
Its easier to spot a woke cnut.
Because religious assumptions tend to dehumanize while the assumption that people are indeed people doesn't
Both the most shocking and, in hindsight, the most obvious personality trait, was the obsession with other people's sex lives. It sounds absurd, but when you think about it, it's so true especially in those "alpha-male" podcasts and those bigoted family members always asking if you have a girlfriend and if she's hot when you're gay and just wanna be left alone😂
I think that's part of the reason why there is such a huge push against LGBT (especially the T) folks lately, because they focus so much on how "deviant" queer sex lives are, that they sexualize every interaction a gay person has. Which is why they get so angry when gay or trans people interact with children. They only see queer people as sexual deviants, so when they interact with children, they see it as inherently sexual and get outraged.
It doesn't matter if it is the most benign interaction ever, they see gay = sex and get outraged.
Ugh, yes. It reminds me of the intensity of scrutiny of other people’s worth that Gen Z seems deeply invested in. It’s made me more determined to draw lines on what’s acceptable in a careful way because a lot of it is creating outgroups to intensively bully if they have multiple partners, and reviving the idea of self-pleasure being inherently unhealthy
Yep. Another obvious one is scouring people's past internet activity in order to find dirt on them. Like they'd find a single joke they made years ago that looks like a dog whistle for another ideology and immediately rule that person as just that. I've seen people outright stop watching youtubers out of fear they believe in something they don't. If that's not fascism, I don't know what is.
@dskarma-jt1nb
Ha ha, I see what you're doing. Sorry, if you're "joking" about how me and my family shouldn't exist or shouldn't have human rights, i don't want to watch your content. But also, people not watching your content isn't fascism.
@dskarma-jt1nb that's a stupid thing to say. If I have the suspicion that a youtuber that I like watching might secretly (or not-so-secretly) think things that lead to the destruction of my community in many places, I will look for those kinds of things. If I find any, or find other remarks that lead to that conclusion, I will stop watching them. That's not fascism, it's self-preservation and not supporting what harms you.
Very good summary. Surprising how you managed to avoid mentioning that the authoritarian character is essentially the compulsive neurotic character of psychoanalysis.
It seems to me that most people, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum, are more influenced by narrative and less by logic and reason.
I think you might be right, which would indicate to me that a good historical education which is rooted as much as possible in material analysis is very important in reducing one's vulnerability to propaganda.
Andrew Jacks amen...definitely true
most people adopt the "logic and reason" of the narrative they like best
that is, you can be a logical as you can be, but if your axioms are garbage, logic won't help you be less garbage
and lots of people that view themselves as "logical and reasonable" are MORE likely to have garbage axioms (see: nu-Atheism's dark turn circa 2011).
@@azertyQ People aren't even logical with their "garbage axioms". They're applied when it supports their narrative and ignored or "deconstructed" when it hurts their narrative.
@@andrewjacks2716 Degrading all other methods of understanding as propaganda, except for material analysis, sounds dogmatic.
Very interesting.
I would like to submit some modifications.
Nr 3; authoritarian agression is not just directed towards violations of conventionalism and authoritarian submission. (That is trait 1 and 2 in this list.) Fascists have tended to show emotional and practical hostility to offenders against all their traits. So trait 4: anti-intraception can be understood as hostility towards insufficiently stereotypical thinkers, against insufficient strength, and against insufficient destructivity and cynisism. (That is traits 5, 6 and 7.) And really, my impression is that most of them have tended to get pretty upset about wrong sex too.
However, both this modification and the original list might underestimate how important this negativity has been for actual fascists. The norwegian philosopher Harald Ofstad has proposed an understanding of fascism where disdain and hostility towards weakness is the central driving force. I think he makes a good argument - go check it out.
Finally, I think trait 7, penchant for destructivity and cynisism, misses the mark slightly. I would prefer to state it as a strong attraction to violence and transgression. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe fascists and protofascists are just really angry at stuff, and this anger causes thoughts about violence. But I don’t think so, I think it’s more often the other way round. They want to talk and think about violence, and working yourself up into a rage creates a permission to do that.
Just my thoughts. Apply them to modern politics as you like.
It makes sense for negativity not playing that big role in this particular assessment. After all it differentiates between actual fascists and those, who openly support them only when they are in power. Henceforth the lists of attributes is insufficient to describe actual fascists by design.
Yup. Right wingers have been amassing guns for years. They created Qanon and election lies in order to give themselves permission to use them.
i misread 'Nr 3; authoritarian' as 'NieR: Automata' and almost coughed my lungs out idk why
interesting and insightful comment. thanks!
You make a good point.
why are there so many dislikes on this video?
Triggered conservatives
just a hunch- it might be the fascists
Facists
I'm a gun guy and watching all the potential or full fascists on most gun youtube channels is troubling.
I agree, my friend. It is an unsettling trend. It's a strange position to occupy, too, being pro-gun *and yet* what these fascist types would call "woke" derisively. (at least in my case)
I'm.....laying up hunting arrows. And I hate it so much that I'm having to think this way.
@@aarondevaldez9134 they are right, nothing fascist about that
-finishes watching vid
-looks at painting of the God-Emperor wanting to die in his name
Me: Nah ... they're the crazy ones.
what does this comment mean
When the emperor's light is thy torch, you will see in the end :)
@@CriticalHitRoll In Warhammer 40k man is subservient to the God-Emperor and his Imperium of Mankind. The Imperium is extremely authoritarian and very demanding with the most dangerous and demanding mandatory military service imaginable. Despite the brutalities and nature of things, in order to defend humanity, it is also one of the greatest honors to die in the Emperor's name and help mankind continue.
Oh a fellow loyal subject of our Undying Lord I see. I salute thee.
For the emperor!!!!!!!!!!!
irony that 3 years later this is soooo common in america to see happening.
Narcissism and other egomaniacal characteristics/traits I suspect will also be a potential way of predicting susceptibility to authoritarian ideology.
Definitely a lack of empathy.
Not being able to accept if one may be wrong is the biggest trait imo.
Gotta love how people say fascism is like improv theatre. It's a "Yes, and..." situation. Still this video really draws you in at 10:30. There are so many people who I know like this... and they all remind me of people in some other medical categories too.
A.G.
Tom here does not know what fascism really is. Hitler was not a fascist. The Nazis were also not fascists. Fascists were basically National Marxist socialists. The international Marxists (Soviet union included) did not like that the Italian National Marxist socialists(fascists) were pro their own nation and Pro war. The fascists were basically Marxist patriots. The only thing distinguishing Marxists and fascists is that Marxists were internationalists and fascists were nationalists. Other than that there is no difference between them. This historian does a perfect job about explaining fascism: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
@UCvskmPLq6uZlJXw64JuV9-A get up on outta here
But any tribalistic ideology is a yes and situation.
@@sabhishek9289 would you stop copy-pasting your comment everywhere?? repeating something doesn't makes your reasoning heard, only the literal words and it won't bring anything forward.
@@sabhishek9289 get that horse shoe theory bs out of here
I was distracted by the T Rex on the T Shirt and was feed to the algorithm.
It's my favourite t-shirt and I'm beginning to worry that it's featured a bit heavily in my videos recently to the point people might think it's the only top I own. Time to buy some more cool t-shirts I think!
@@Tom_Nicholas an authoritarian scale T-shirt or an ornithologist especialized on Facisticus Potencialus.
Aren't birds the last remaining dinosaurs or something? I hadn't thought of that but let's pretend that was an intentional decision.
Ronaldo Luiz Pedroso haha i am currently reading jurassic park and it was also the first thing that caught my eye!
Tom here does not know what fascism really is. Hitler was not a fascist. The Nazis were also not fascists. Fascists were basically National Marxist socialists. The international Marxists (Soviet union included) did not like that the Italian National Marxist socialists(fascists) were pro their own nation and Pro war. The fascists were basically Marxist patriots. The only thing distinguishing Marxists and fascists is that Marxists were internationalists and fascists were nationalists. Other than that there is no difference between them. This historian does a perfect job about explaining fascism: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
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Fantastic video, Tom. Engaging and well thought out
Title slide song is "World War Five" by Jay Varton for anyone curious. Really wish more creators would just mention it in the description or link to a doc with the music they use. Don't get it twisted, though. I love your shit, Tom. Grade A video essays.
Umberto Eco was my mum’s professor of Semiotics at University in the mid-80s in Bologna: she always tells me that he was extremely mean but he was actually a genius
Describes half my professors hahaha
Dunno if you can call him that
Tom here does not know what fascism really is. Hitler was not a fascist. The Nazis were also not fascists. Fascists were basically National Marxist socialists. The international Marxists (Soviet union included) did not like that the Italian National Marxist socialists(fascists) were pro their own nation and Pro war. The fascists were basically Marxist patriots. The only thing distinguishing Marxists and fascists is that Marxists were internationalists and fascists were nationalists. Other than that there is no difference between them. This historian does a perfect job about explaining fascism: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
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Fact: Including Musolini's mistress who was jewish, there were atleast 10,000 jews in the fascist party of Italy which accounts for about 1/3rd of the Jewish adult population in Italy. So why does everyone think that fascists are racists and hates jews? As George Orwell pointed out: "... Some fascist movements are not anti Semitic..."
Orwell was correct and the original fascism wasn't anti-Semitic or racist at all. So what's going on here? To know that, watched the linked video: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
@@sabhishek9289 “the fascists were basically patriotic marxists.”
That’s funny, because in the video you linked that does a “perfect job explaining fascism” includes a quote form OG fascist Mussolini clearly stating that dismantling the bourgeoisie was not a goal of the fascist.
And really? The only difference is that fascists are nationalistic? There are not other differences? Let’s see about that…
Fascism typically relies on a strict social hierarchy, something Marxists tend to disagree with. Fascists don’t believe in workers owning the means of production. Fascists are anti-communist. Fascists are typically socially conservative, Marxists are typically socially progressive. Fascism is inherently authoritarian, but the same is not always true for Marxists. The fascists aren’t just patriotic, they’re downright jingoistic. I mean… the list could go on.
It’s funny. I did find someone who might agree with you while I was doing some fact checking: A. James Gregor. He’s a eugenicist who supports segregation if you aren’t familiar. There’s actually a long line of white supremacists who are trying to distance fascism from the far right by comparing it to Marxism. And you’re either proof that it’s working, or you’re one of them.
It would be really interesting to make a follow up video going deeper into the points you talked about in the conclusion. I feel like learning what concrete things work to prevent radicalization and to de-radicalize, both as individuals and as a society is probably the most important political contribution we can make these days. I'm frankly scared that I don't know how to do that.
Anyway, that's for the (again) amazing content!! Keep it up!!
Edit: I meant "Thanks" 😅
Thanks for your thanks! I don’t how equipped I am to talk about what strategies might be most successful for deradicalisation. I find Innuendo Studios’ videos really interesting for thinking about that though. If the conclusion of this video is that engaging with the minutes of arguments is not always the most useful way forward, I think the strategies for engaging with far-right talking points forwarded in the Alt-Right Playbook series offer some that might be.
Hey, João.
One way to "prevent radicalization" is to not work to destroy the economy and the moral fabric of a society.
You can't "deradicalize" any significant part of any ideological movement without violence. To think so is blatantly egotistical. The concepts of fascism are mainly deeply rooted within one's personality. Same thing goes with communism. It actually has little to do with ideas. The only people who you'll ever convert to your side are the intellectually and self understanding weak people who only join movements to fit in. Those are not people who you want on your side.
And I don't know if this needs to be said but the cause of radicalization is obviously alienation. People who are on the hunt constantly for like minded friends and a place to fit in will find radical communities appealing. The real way to end this push to the extreme is to give kids a sense of community and belonging. It's simple enough on paper but a herculean task in practice
Conformity to social norms, unquestioning obedience to authority, severely punishing non-conformist behavior... a Japanese proverb comes to mind: _the nail that comes out gets hit_
thank you so much for telling it like this. you've brought s lot of calm to me.
I want to add this to a larger lecture of mine, do i have your permission?
Love the intro! You should do that style more.
Thanks! Just wrote in another comment that I was very much in two minds about it... Glad you liked it though, looking forward to hearing what everyone thinks!
I liked it, too. It's always good to see people spread their creative wings, so to speak.
@@Tom_Nicholas Everyone loves a little theater. Might say that the metaphor was sometimes a little strained, but the style is definitely something to keep.
Haha, my PhD (which I'm hoping to finish in the next week or so) is in theatre (and I've worked in theatre for most of my adult life, so I've got some chops to draw on. Not usually a fan of being the one doing the acting though so don't expect any full-on "characters" even if there is a skit or two every now and then (although I currently have zero ideas for what such a skit might look like in my next video so maybe not every time)...
your profile pic is epic
You’re telling me this ISNT Neville Longbottom from Icarly?
this is an underrated comment omg
Tom here does not know what fascism really is. Hitler was not a fascist. The Nazis were also not fascists. Fascists were basically National Marxist socialists. The international Marxists (Soviet union included) did not like that the Italian National Marxist socialists(fascists) were pro their own nation and Pro war. The fascists were basically Marxist patriots. The only thing distinguishing Marxists and fascists is that Marxists were internationalists and fascists were nationalists. Other than that there is no difference between them. This historian does a perfect job about explaining fascism: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
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@@sabhishek9289 this is completely unrelated to this comment? what the fuck
man, just, ty for summarizing all these stuff, like, one has so little time to study all he wants to and you really help, ty
Man didn't make it about naming any current politicians either. He coulda just said "supports Trump, thanks for watching" but he went in depth and was entertaining
Wow thanks for letting me know that half the USA is fascist! It’s odd that democracy still stand than Isn’t it?
@@KaiserCeaser Hopefully not for long.
Dont walk run productions has done good videos on trump and biden. They're not 5secs long though
Hey Tom, what a video mate! I haven't come across anything THIS comprehensive about the socio-psychological roots of Fascism. Seriously, the labour you put in research is clearly visible. I'm a relatively new subscriber but I want you to know that your videos are really very well-made. Take a bow, man!
Love from India ❤️❤️
Tom here does not know what fascism really is. Hitler was not a fascist. The Nazis were also not fascists. Fascists were basically National Marxist socialists. The international Marxists (Soviet union included) did not like that the Italian National Marxist socialists(fascists) were pro their own nation and Pro war. The fascists were basically Marxist patriots. The only thing distinguishing Marxists and fascists is that Marxists were internationalists and fascists were nationalists. Other than that there is no difference between them. This historian does a perfect job about explaining fascism: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
@@sabhishek9289 Na-zis weren't socialists in N-azi Germany teh government had big cooperation and control with corporations that's kind of a state capitalism tbh
@@__chinmay__ Corporatism is not capitalism. And the corporations in Nazi Germany were organs of the state. And Capitalism means non-state. So when you say "state capitalism", you are literally "state non-state" which is completely contradictory. It's like saying "cold heat" or "bright darkness".
He is wrong, though. The problem is that he is trying to educate people about fascism using cherrypicked capitalist sources that aren't addressing the defining feature of fascism: Anti-socialism.
Probably, his research was: "I read Wikipedia and then perused the recommended sources."
If you see an anti-socialist in a capitalist society that is failing, i.e. a person that is conservative in a capitalist society whose economy is undeniably going downhill, you are probably having a fascist at hand. Or something even more ridiculous (e.g. a monarchist). Imperial Japan is often lumped in with "fascism" even though they are more adequately described as imperials. They were monarchists. They just so happened to be part of the Nazi axis. Modern Japan is more aptly described as fascist. It's an ultra-capitalist society with deep hatred for socialism despite their capitalist system failing them for decades and leading to nothing but exploitation by the US empire.
The political purpose of fascism is exactly one thing: Conserve the traditional status quo when it comes to power structures in society by militantly opposing socialism.
Fascism isn't "difficult to define". That's just a propaganda narrative that the capitalist West has deliberately created to obfuscate what fascism is. The reason is obvious: The US is the quintessential fascist country. American fascism inspired German fascism and the Americans succeeded where the Nazis failed: Destroying the USSR and the socialist revolution in Europe.
If people actually understood what fascism is and why the Nazis did what they did, they wouldn't support capitalism and they wouldn't support the United States or other fascist empires.
For example: The Jews were targeted by the Nazis not because they were "Jewish" but because they were "spreading bolshevism". The Jews were hated by the Nazis due to them believing in the "Jewish world conspiracy" (i.e. the conspiracy theory that communism was invented by Jews to destroy everyone's identity and turn them into servants of the Jewish world state, thereby taking over the planet forcing all non-Jews to comply with Jewish dictatorship).
@@sabhishek9289 based king
One of my favorite bits is telling people about a place that used to give loans to newlyweds to buy a house and start a family
How they would knock 20-25% off the loan for each kid they had.
Their eyes light up, "wow! Where was this magical place!?"
I think you're missing some context here.
The reason for the pro-children policies of the Nazis was so they could use them to populate the Lebensraum they would be conquering in the East.
I presume your friends weren't wanting children so they could settle in South America when the US government conquered it?
Sometimes I ask people if they like to pet dogs. If they say yes, I point out that Hitler also liked to pet dogs, and so I have tricked them into admitting that they are similar to Hitler. I am very smart.
@@japanpanda2179 Usually dead silence from the person I'm responding to, and then several months later someone comments on it and I have to try and remember what the heck I was commenting on in the first place. Discombobulating.
@@AlexReynard so your an leftist ?
@@AlexReynardget discombobulated.
Usualy fascist are often supported by wealthy rich with their corporations. Most humanity tragedies are always created by wealthy rich coming from political, financial, organised religion or militaristic groups.
_"Usualy fasc ist are often supported by wealthy rich with their corporations."_
Nope, they are not. It seems you are referring to corporatocracy, not fas cism.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. fascism is a corporatocratic ideology.
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini
@@isaac3140 _"fasc ism is a corporatocratic id eology."_
Wrong. It was the complete opposite. Fasc ism was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndicalism, which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose wasn't the promotion of private interest, but the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."
@@isaac3140 _"Fasc ism should more properly be called corpo ratism because it is the merger of state and corporate po wer.” - Benito Mussolini"_
Mus solini never said such a thing. Common misquote. But even if he said, corpor atism meant trade unions, not business corporations like Microsoft.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. now you're just denying basic quotes, nice one. I already schooled you on a ton of quotes of Mussolini disavowing socialism
I recently found your channel and enjoy your videos. I found this highly interesting and plan to dig deeper into the subject, but for the sake of transparency, you should have talked a bit more about the flaws and bias of the study
Tom, this is some amazing content! I just found it recently but have thoroughly enjoyed every video I've watched including this! Well researched, well edited, and well delivered video essays that are CITED are so nice
These stock footage shown during personality traits rundown are so generic and cheesy in an almost endearing way.
Reminds me of Half As Interesting
Black and white footages of crowds = BAD
Colorful footages of a mixed races = GOOD
@@majorhumbert676 what are you talking about
@Eric Osagie he is saying that he misses Hitler rallies I guess
@@burgermind802 How dare western nations not allow millions from the 3rd world take over their country and destroy their children heritage , they clearly must be facist haters and racists
It's easy to figure out why people go along with it.
Fascist: I need you to do this.
You: No.
Fascist: _cycles chamber on their rifle to ensure it's loaded_
You: Yes.
🤣
Sadly this is a bad take from this video. While there were indeed people who were violently forced to it, most didn't have to be. Nazi party grew to something like 30-40% popularity before it even got to the point that it could point guns at people. It was the slippery slope down the dehumanization path that led people to believe they were doing the right thing while committing atrocities.
That famous poem "first they came for the X" is a part of this too. The rhetoric starts more mellow and soft but gets progressively harsher and harsher, and people tend to rather twist their worldview than believe they were hoodwinked into something so horrible. We have letters from the early wartime with police officers trying to convince their wives (and themselves) that it was very necessary work to slaughter women, children and infants for the "greater good".
It's even more relevant today with fascism again on the rise and people again being hoodwinked into supporting it. Thus it's ever more important to tell people that it's not just horrible people and forced obedience that created Nazism, it was the regular folk too. It all starts and ends with slippery slope conservative right wing talking points and slowly escalates down the rabbit hole.
@@PAcifisti Right you are, at least in that it all stems from that belief in a "greater good". Though I have to warn you, it hasn't only been from "right wing" talking points; I've had to cut myself off from most of my left-wing friends over the years after being disturbed by how quickly they turn to dehumanization and ideas for genocide, all in the name of the "greater good" against their "conservative opponents". It was more often my left-wing friends, not my conservative friends, who would use "the greater good" as an excuse to think of ways to deconstruct and social engineer society to fit their own (ironically) authoritarian point of view.
In the end, it's probably best to steer clear of anyone who tries to justify their plans/ideas as for the "greater good." Hate begets hate, cruelty begets cruelty, and as such Fascism begets Fascism; the only way to truly prevent it is through compassion and understanding.
@@Bigred073 Sounds like you knew a few tankies. Any would be "leftist" that identifies as a Marxist-Leninist and wouldn't look at the USSR or modern China as overwhelmingly negative can safely be considered as fascists painted red.
@@cunning_linguist. "Tankies"? I haven't heard that term used before, but your description seems to fit. My friends who were in that crowd probably wouldn't have identified themselves as Marxist-Leninist, (they like to think they were "progressive"), however there were at least two of their younger friends that always carried around USSR memorabilia/paraphernalia.
superb. I am still chuckling over the birds but it quickly transformed into a learned disquisition on the authoritarian mindset. Really excellent video.
There’s a really interesting book called “Parenting for a Peaceful World” by Robin Grille - which looks at the dominant child-rearing techniques within different societies and the way they set up the conditions (shape the personalities) which then allow fascistic and totalitarian groups to come to power. The book has some problematic elements but still Super fascinating! Might be up your alley!
Later in this book, there's a lot of discussion of childhood (most of the researchers had some background in psychoanalysis and its traces are all over the book). I'm the same in being a bit undecided as to how useful I think the "blame it on the parents" approach is, although I think the broader ways in which a person's personality is shaped by the society they live in are vital to interrogate. I'll try and take a look at Grille's book if I get a chance at some point, thanks for the recommend!
Bob Altmeyer found something similar. He noted such personalities often manifests in kids raised by stern parents who take a "Because I said so," approach and emphasize that the world is a dangerous place they need to be tough to protect those children from, their parenting style quite likely being informed by their own authoritarianism. If the kid breaks the rules at some point and finds themselves worse off, it tends to reinforce the authoritarianism, and if the kid breaks the rules and finds that things weren't as bad as their parent said, it tends to weaken the authoritarianism.
Other things which weakened authoritarianism were distance from family and exposure to more people in the out-group (such as is often the case at universities) while some things that strengthened it were threats from outside and having children of their own (both things which might induce new kinds of fears that make a person more sensitive to potential threats.)
Thank you for the recommendation!
@@FearlessSon Family is not often necessarily has to be someone who you have blood tied relations with.
@@MatPost In this case, it's whomever is raising you and the community they raise you in. For example, a strict religious family who treats adoption as a kind of evangelism and tries to raise those kids in isolation from secular influences would count even if they're not blood-related.
The italian movie The Conformist had a main character whose personality was based on this book.
Can we take a minute to address the fact that 21:05 is basically Senator Armstrong from Metal Gear Rising.
I began to research this topic because I realized these traits in individuals who didn't know each other. Probably everyone knows one.
As a gay, disabled, Romani communist, I am inevitably a target for fascists. Their dog whistles ring loud in my ears.
As someone who is two of those four things by most definitions, I concur.
And then you have the denialists say shit like "well if you can hear the dogwhistles what does that make you" as if that means anything substantial whatsoever.
@@SamSphinxeople actually say that?😂 It makes us *observant*.
I suppose I'm 2.5 of those things myself comrades (I'm more of an anarcho-syndicalist do half a red flag lol, but I'm not sure fascists make such distinctions)
@@rickwrites2612 im an anarcho-syndicalist too comrade :D
Am 2/4 plus another.
And I agree, I can hear many of their Dogwhistles ringing in my ears
it took me reading this comment twice to realise you weren't romanian help
There is a German film called Die Welle (The Wave) which is about a teacher who starts educating his students about the Nazis. And how it influences them.
It escalates in an interesting way. You might want to check it out.
That film is based on real events that happened in the USA. Look up the third wave experiment.
Pretty good movie. Watched it in my German 2 class back in high school.
I think I might have seen it as a kid.
While it's an interesting story don't buy into it too much. The original story is actually not as bad as it is made to seem. I remember coming across a blog where a man became so interested in that story that he tracked down some of the kids who went to that school and their account of that experiment do not match up with how the teacher explains it.
@@AB-zu1bx Source?
I just got duped by the thumbnail into thinking this was about a british man telling me how to birdwatch.
Welp, guess im watching a documentary on nazis instead.
I feel like the fact that conservatism doesn't neccicarily directly relate to fachism, but it's why they're conservative that matters is extremely important and not enough people talk about it
How to spot a fascist:
1) Go on bitchute.
2) Click on random video.
3) Scroll down to the comments.
4) People with swastika icons are claiming they're just concerned conservatives - lol
Spotted one
@@stephanmaier5634 what
@@stephanmaier5634 no seriously I have no idea what you're saying
@@stephanmaier5634 Prolly the part where nazis kill innocent people and that I don't do that... Maybe that? You friggin life failure lololol.
@@RHR199X th-cam.com/channels/Te-xpmnN7Gk6VctY1B3qCg.htmlplaylists
Eyeah... He's totally a pos lol.
Great video! I am Brazilian, and unfortunately I can see how much regular people are susceptible to authoritarianism and fascism. Individualism and lack of empathy are also important factors.
Yeah, I mentioned in another comment that I was really in two minds about how many connections to make to the present. In the end I decided on letting people draw some of those links themselves.
Coming from someone with a sibling whos just too dumb to see they're fascist (they say all the bs and dog whistles a Nazi says, even goes Jewish question whenever they don't understand how a study disputes their claims)
They target vulnerable folk, like bi-polar people and survivors of abuse
It's much easier to get unstable people to believe irrational things
Fascism is inherently anti-individualistic. Group identity is elevated above all else. In America, individualistic ideals are utilized by fascists. It’s sort of a bait and switch because the failings of marginalized people are blamed on individuals’ choices as opposed to their circumstances and then the patterns of individuals’ choices are used to essentialize negative traits to justify bigotry.
@@maxm7584 Blaming marginalised people for their own suffering is fairly ubiquitous across English speaking neo-liberal societies though. It's certainly something that happens a lot in the UK and is certainly exploited by the far-right over here as well.
@@Aconitum_napellus yeah for sure. That's happened all over the world throughout history, not just English speaking neo-liberal societies. I was just speaking on my own country because it's what I know first hand.
This is a really clever video and you did a good job of explaining the way authoritarianism takes over in different ways.
let me save you half an hour, 1. being a normal person, 2. touching grass.
I'm a simple man: when I hear fascisticus potentialicus and fascisticus actualicus in a British accent at 2.0 playback speed, I have no idea what he's talking about. 🙃
@@witchdoctorgames5011 I am at 14:29 and all I can think of is ' "They look just like us!" - The study '
@@witchdoctorgames5011 I like how you replied to 8 month old comment
@@witchdoctorgames5011 You deny that there is a subgroup of fascists that do not consider themselves so? Think of fascism as a mental disorder or brainworms. Certain ideologies can actually rot your brain *the royal society, The cognitive and perceptual correlates of ideological attitudes: a data-driven approach* and block out some of your intellectual abilities. People become fascist without ever reading a purely fascist book or seeing propaganda because it's just like shutting your brain off. Your friends could turn you fascist by feeding you talking points about nationalism and immigration, and of course a fall from glory.
Endlich jemand mit einem gewissen Maß an Verstand...
Just found your channel! It's super cool, going back and watching lots of your videos. Your videos are really good quality! Love the bird bit at the beginning
Tom here does not know what fascism really is. Hitler was not a fascist. The Nazis were also not fascists. Fascists were basically National Marxist socialists. The international Marxists (Soviet union included) did not like that the Italian National Marxist socialists(fascists) were pro their own nation and Pro war. The fascists were basically Marxist patriots. The only thing distinguishing Marxists and fascists is that Marxists were internationalists and fascists were nationalists. Other than that there is no difference between them. This historian does a perfect job about explaining fascism: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
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@@sabhishek9289 bruh stop spamming
This is making me realize that the main evil team plotline of pokemon x and y is probably a metaphor for fascism
Interestingly enough. Team flare wanted to eliminate all life for a better world. So whilst they probably had some fascistic ideas. They're more or less people who want complete destruction and not just for everyone besides themselves
If Team Flare and the story of X and Y was not goofy, people would realize Lysander seriously tried genocide because “the poor wanted more” and that wasn’t beautiful. Instead, it is just a silly game that happens to mentions war and involves a genocidal group.
@@iantaakalla8180may I add that Lysander is also a techbro mogul, take whatever you want from this added fact
In a study mentioned by Patricia Churchland in a book I read. Increased levels of oxytocin (the love chemical) instead of promoting love and peace it actually made outgroup hostility worse. I think this ties in with fascists being sentimental and overtly attached quite well.
Speaking of destructiveness and vilification, this reminds me of how these people are always opposed to fighting for a better world, convinced that it is impossible and that humans are all as greedy as they are!!
Whilst I was writing that part, I had a bunch of right-wingers jumping into the comments on my video about Whiteness and it was really interesting seeing their interpretation of anti-racism as being about the subjugation of white people. There was just a complete inability to see a world without race-based power structures; in their minds there always had to be one group in power over the other...
believe me, they are the ones who are fighting for a better world with the most zeal
Tom Nicholas
I get called a nazi for saying there’s not as many Nazis as people say.
Seems like maybe some white people are actually being silenced from any real dialogue.
That sucks.
I’ve seen blm shut down asian speakers before at the university of Toronto because they started talking about white people helping them with racism from black people.
I’ve seen blm groups tell gay people to basically piss off, they aren’t included, despite their history with police raids too.
It’s not just white supremacists man.
I think half this stuff is pure garbage and I’ve been deeply obsessed with racism my whole life.
Votes Trudeau twice and Obama was my favourite president. I agree with burning cop stations and property but none of the looting.
It’s not all so simple.
Tom Nicholas
Also grew up in native and black neighborhoods my whole life, and watched people’s lives fall apart as they blamed white people, and even had the nerve to tell me my family (who got here in the late thirties early forties) we’re responsible for their problems, while getting drunk on a work night.
When you claim all these issues are because of racism, then the real issues that aren’t being addressed, aren’t being addressed.
One of my best friends mom got a settlement from the residential school stuff, and it messed her whole life up. Thats reperations.
It’s so ridiculously complex, and y’all just say, ah shit it’s racism.
@@ard1805 They're blaming white people because white people refused to sell them homes in nice places where the good jobs all moved to. That's why they drink on the job, because the job is miserable and underpays them. Yeah, it is complex: racism is complex.
That there is some sectarian infighting on social justice movements is not an excuse to act counter revolutionary.
"In general, full economic security is harmful; most men wouldn't work if they didn't need the money for eating and living" - ah yes, this reminds me why I'm always wary of such studies. These are two completely distinct things, why are they conflated under one statement? The tacit connection between them that in an ideal world everybody would be working is forced upon the person giving the answer no matter their response, whereas one can easily imagine someone who would reject this even to the point of going "yeah probably most people would just bum around but if it makes for a happy people on average and is economically sustainable that's no big deal" (not my stance, but a perfectly conceivable one). And what is this "work", even? Does it only include having an official "job", or would say being a "traditional housewife" also count?
Such studies really need a "mu" answer, to entirely reject malformed questions.
Tom here does not know what fascism really is. Hitler was not a fascist. The Nazis were also not fascists. Fascists were basically National Marxist socialists. The international Marxists (Soviet union included) did not like that the Italian National Marxist socialists(fascists) were pro their own nation and Pro war. The fascists were basically Marxist patriots. The only thing distinguishing Marxists and fascists is that Marxists were internationalists and fascists were nationalists. Other than that there is no difference between them. This historian does a perfect job about explaining fascism: th-cam.com/video/qdY_IMZH2Ko/w-d-xo.html
Exactly my thoughts. As an Anarchist my take would be "full economic security IS harmful, most people would work if they didn't need the money for food and living." If you doubt that people would work even when they don't have to then I recommend doing absolutely nothing for 2 weeks, it fills you with a need to make something lol.
@@sabhishek9289 you need to talk to people outside your circles or you'll hurt the world around you and your own mental health.
@@sabhishek9289 Please stop.
@@sabhishek9289 congrats for falling for early fascist propaganda
@11:33
Anecdotal as it may be, something I have found to be seemingly relevant to how likely it is that someone is a) drawn towards _any_ socially damaging "othering" rhetoric in the first place and b) convinced of its accuracy as a summation of the facts of the world, is whether or not someone's base world view includes the idea that there is a 'way that things "should" just be' - By default. Without context, or nuance, or reasoning about how reality demonstrates that to be an untenable position.
*And* whether or not they have experienced (actually or merely their perception) some injustice, or that the reality of their lives lack something that their world view idea dictates they should have, based on how things are "supposed" to be, given the things they've done as they "should" for such results.
For example:
People who have a conviction that hard work is _always_ justly rewarded. This is how it "should" be, so it defacto _is supposed_ to be that way, nothing else is factored into that 'reality'; if reality doesn't match up to expectation, it is something in reality that's at fault, not the world view.
This leads some to conclude that an individual who is very financially well-off _deserves_ to be; they must have put in the appropriate amount of effort and work. This is evidence of the strong moral character of the individual and the willingness to do what's required, put on the hours and hard work, without relying on, or expecting handouts from, anyone else.
Conversely an individual who is struggling financially must also _deserve_ to be; they obviously haven't, or aren't, putting in the appropriate amount of work and effort. This is evidence of the lazy, and probably entitled character of the individual, who likely expects that others should contribute to make up for their failings.
Internal conflict ensues when such people are working hard, and doing all 'the right things', yet finding themselves unable to really establish themselves financially in a comfortable way...
These people are _perfect_ targets for rhetoric that encourages them to fault the poorest people in society, (often also a minority group) to accept that those people are the problem, and thus the reason all that hard work isn't rewarding as it should.
The irony, of course, is that the people who like to push this kind of rhetoric are ones that are continually benefiting from tax breaks, expenses write offs, lobbyist payouts and investments that incur little to no tax, thanks to loopholes that they themselves legislate. While cutting public funding whenever possible, and pushing hard the idea that social health care is not a nett benefit to anyone but the lazy, seeking handouts, labor unions are the epitome of undeserving entitlement, and that the concept of "work at will" isn't just taking the idea of the "right" to work and twisting it into something that brings the most potential benefit to the wealthiest, at the expense of the poorest.
In short, people whose careers are built upon convincing people to vote against their own interests, while pushing the idea that everyone who pulls those bootstraps is justly rewarded.
You can substitute in all manner of 'things that _should_ just be this way' base views and set the same concept to them. People I engage with that fall into grifter nonsense, conspiracy theories, and BS rhetoric all have this base idea in their world view, I think it's a large factor in their susceptibility to accepting fascistic propaganda points.
And if you read this far, why?! Find something useful to do with your time, silly.
Fascists: the loudest angriest shitheads you've ever seen