Hobbywing 550 Axe brushless motor review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2019
- Is the Hobbywing Xerun Axe 550 motor the best rc crawler brushless option? Is it the best brushless motor for rc crawlers?
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Thank you for all the valuable input Brother of RC!! Im ordering mine asap
I just put a similar Brushless Mamba X Crawler combo in a TRX Sport Kit. Lots of control ,and it rips when you want it to. Curious to see how this one compares, and might give it a go on my next build. Thanks for the great review!
I just got my 550/3300kv from Hobbywing. To replace the 540/2300kv that came in my ‘Gen8 Axe’. Geared it down from 17T to 12T pinion & I love it! Even with throttle matching turned to low, there’s not many obstacles that’ll stop it from crawling slow! So much torque!!! The motor is a beast! Even gearing it down it still keeps up with my TRX in high gear. Not only would I recommend an AXE FOC combo for a crawler? I’d go as far as saying: I wasn’t really crawling till I had one! 👍👌🤘
If you don’t want to spend the dough on a sensord system for your crawler? Then stay brushed and get a hobbywing 1080 ESC!
Have the axe 3300kv on my trx6 & it weighs a lot, but with that motor, it still flies! That rig of mine has like brass weights on the front, spare wheel at the back and accessories in the bed with roof racks too! Loving it
I love this system, I got the 540 2300 KV in my VS410 Pro, really love the braking system , specially down hill awesome control appreciate you sharing, i'll watch for the next video , got the app pretty easy to use
Pretty amazing system, dude! It really looks and sounds fantastic! 😃
Really cool we have fresh thinking on this category. We are checking out the Castle systems now. The software for configuring is the same as 15 years ago.
@@RCReviewChannel I bet! Now there are lots of Chinese companies coming out to play, so I guess we're going to see new things pretty soon. 😃
Enjoying the channel and always tune in to see what's up..
Had my capra out again today(2nd run) and really like the Axe system, auto drag brake is amazing, Nice smooth deceleration and no more endo's when giving it a little blast, and then back to full blown superior hill hold on the rocks. Certainly won't stop me purchasing HW 1080's and brushed motors but nice to have one.
Hobbywing definitely need to revisit the sensor cable plug for easier mounting and install configuration in tight places like Capra.
Cheers mate 👍
Our sentiments exactly! We have the 540 Axe to on our Capra. It's really cool to have this upgrade path from the 1080 ESC systems. We're gonna try some high end Holmes brushed and brushless options now too to compare.
@@RCReviewChannel Did i miss this vid? Have you compared a high end brushed motor and 1080 to the Axe system?
Just called amain Chico and ordered the 550 3300 to pick up tommorow!! I almost went with the fusion 2 in1 ,but I just watched your video on that and decided I needed more wheel speed for trails. Thanks your the go to guy.👍😄
Good choice! Put that on a 2 speed or gear it high since it has tons of torque but not super fast rpm.
It’s 2023 and i bought another 3300kv for another rig, just how good this is!
yup. Timeless.
I just ordered the 550 axe combo, look forward to using it in a TRX4 sport
Thank you...I love your videos...I haven't done RC for 5 years..
But now im back...lol
I’ve had the 2300 axe setup in my trx4 for over a year it was expensive but it has transformed the car
Sooooo much better than stock. Really changes the control and maximizes the ability of the chassis.
Maaaan I love this channel!!!! I haven't even bought my TRX yet and I've already learnt so much from this channel!
Welcome aboard!
Thank you for the great video. I'll cheer you on!!
I will be your fan. You will be my fan. I will share information with you when we are shooting the video.
I put this system in my TRX-4 Bronco with an 11 tooth pinion. The truck can crawl very slow and still has enough punch to drag the back bumper if there is sufficient traction. The auto drag brake is very effective, I highly recommend using this setting.
Dan Muhs I have the Bronco with the 550 3300k, do you recommend the 11 tooth or a different one? I’ll mostly be crawling with little trail driving.
I just purchased my 2nd AXE FOC R2 system, this one for my RYFT Portal Crawler, the 550 3300kv.
Good Mr. Always succses
I'm going to buy the 540 1200kv to go in my grand hauler, it will give really smooth quiet low speed running.
Thanks for the video, could you make video for maintenance it? And what is look like inside the brushless motor, thank u
I just ordered this system for my brx01 I ordered with the Toyota LC70 body set with all the options.
Right on. Awesome! This is a lot of power for that.
Hi, how does this set up compare to the Quicrun Fusion 2 in 1 motor esc you reviewed recently? It seems to me the Xerun Axe 550 can go really slow and really fast, while the Fusion does not have the high speed like the Axe 550. Am I correct?
this is my next upgrade ;-)
I'm really liking the axe system. Do I need one in my life? I use the 1060 brushless and 1060/1080 brushed. Good quality ESCs
RunThatRC you need an Axe, I cannot believe the power and control of the beast. Weather the motor alone or the whole rc you can’t go wrong with what’s been tested and works phenomenally. DO IT!
U 100% need it
Do it..lol
Love your videos👍🏻 I'm about to get a trx4. Is the hobbywing 530 still the best brusless for that car?
Hi Francis, 2 great set ups but what would you chose specifically for a Heavier 11lb Gen 8 Scout ii - a HH Puller Pro 3300kv with Mamba X or one of these Hobbywing Axe set ups? whats your ideal set up for that truck & what aize pinion for either woukd work best. Thanks my friend for all your help
Awesome video. I have recently brought a Redcat Gen 8 axe Rtr but have not had chance to run it yet. In your opinion is it worth upgrading the 540 to the 550 and if so would i need to buy the motor and the esc or just the motor. I'm guessing its the same esc for the 540. Many thanks and keep up the great videos. I have learnt a lot from your channel.
Just burned out my holmes hobbies t550 t21 stock Traxxas esc (I run fast on trails motor only three months old) would you recommend the 3300kv hw axe for my 9lb trx4 defender? Great video by the way!
You sold me bro im going to my hobby shop tomorrow and getting two
Hi. Could you please do a side by side speed comparison on two identical rigs with Axe550 3300kv and quickfusion 1800kv ?
OK I’m going to order one of these systems but I don’t know whether to get the 3300 or the 2700. I have a sport kit with the tracks obviously I will not be running these all the time but for some TH-cam videos I would like to have them on sometime I know these gear way down and you have to run the truck almost full throttle to be at walking speed this is why I want to do a brushless system I know a lot of people with the heavier trucks run to 2700 with this be the best choice for this truck I figured it would give me a little more torque maybe allow me to run a little bit bigger opinion but I’ll probably run The one it comes with but I figure with those tracks it’s geared so low that might be a better choice but what’s your opinion
Is each servo channel programmable for separate voltage outputs?
Should I use the 12t pinion the hobbywing 550 comes with or order an 11t to match the original combination? I am running a TRX4.
Hi. Have you tested the BEC output for maximum amp delivery? I have a Protek 370 in my TRX-4 Sport. As of now I have Hobbywing Quickrun 1080wp + Castle BEC 2.0 so in it but have ordered a Hobbywing AXE 3300kv combo and wonder if the ESC will be able to deliver the 6.4a the servo draws on full lock or if I need to continue using the Castle BEC.
What motor combo do you recommend for a axial bomber if I want torque and crawl control and moderate , better than stock, top end speed ?
Are you using the bec at 6v or 7.4v with the trx6? If you are using 7.4v, any issue with the micro servo?
What size would you recommend for element build kit, can size and Kv ??
Mounted the 3300 combo in my.TRX-6 yesterday. It whines a lot. Sounds as if the mesh is too tight but I can't go one wider because then the pinion and spur doesn't mesh at all. Which hole do you use on the motor mount with 15t pinion and stock spur?
I just bought trx4 defender. I want it to crawl and be fast enough to keep up when hiking. I saw a comment you said it's crucial for bronco and defender. Why is that?
Is there much difference between the 2700 and the 3300?
It'll be great to have a comparison between the 2700RPM/Volt version with the higher torque and the 3300RPM/Volt version with the higher top end RPM. I suppose the only difference to be realistically seen will be the top end speed difference though with them both having more than enough torque...
Yes, we have both and it's pretty hard to tell the difference. They both have more than enough torque. The 3300kv spins a little faster. But Axe motors in general don't spin that fast. Maybe 30k rpm when castle motors go above 45k rpm.
Im pretty new to the hobby so what would I have to change on a trail honcho to be able to run this?
What is a great receiver for the Hobbywing AXE 550 R2-FOC Waterproof Censored Brushless Combo w/3300Kv Motor. Mine is fried. Oh, can you do a review on receivers because there are so many out there ranging in price from $17 - $199.99. Which one is good for TRX4/6 crawler with a 4 channel etc? Thanks.
Have you noticed that with 2200 kv that is in the axe that the factory low voltage cut off for 3s isn’t correct. It runs it lower than normal. Only 3s
Do you know if the 550 will fit in the TRX4 Sport? I don't think it will fit in my Axial too long. Thanks great video.
TRX4/6 come with 550 brushed motors stock. AXE 550 fits in both.
Thanks I didn't know that. Getting a Sport kit. :)
Hi Francis how many tooth pinion did you use? I’m getting the 550 r2 for my trx4 5mm shaft thanks
Hi Francis.. i just got my hw axe r2 550 3300kv, after second run, its sundenly turn on right after i connect the battery, and it cannot turn off untill i disconnect the battery.. esc n motor seem no problems, but just cant switch off or on with the switch..
Btw at second run i wash the car, do you think it have related?
Sorry for my english 🙏
I thought the Traxxas receiver was only good for 6V. Have you had any issues with the TQi receiver on 7.4V?
no issues at all. The little servos for diffs and transmission are at risk though
How does this system compare to a Tekin RX4 and Roc412?
hi. ive got a hobbywing quicrun 2 in 1 1800kv coming for a trx6 , do you think it will be ok for this vehicle. ive got the 1200kv version in my trx4 sport and i cant fault it
Got any idea why my Axe esc will not pair with my phone? I've tried everything I can think of.
I'm not sure of the purpose of the adjustable drag brake. With the Axe system, with the holding feature and the slow crawling feature, you can just "barely" touch the throttle and modulate drag brake as you need it. I do think you really need to use something other than stock radio to get better control over the throw of the throttle. It almost feels like the stock TQi radio has 8bit resolution where other (better) radios start at 16bit and go up. Unfortunately, none publish the resolution of the throttle sensor... so you basically have to try the TQi first and then upgrade the radio (without touching anything else) and then try it again to easily see the difference (regardless of what motor/esc you put in).
we explain the purpose of the Auto Drag Brake feature here. th-cam.com/video/vmvbFzpHsIE/w-d-xo.html It is for massive drag brake for hill holds and gradual drag brake for high speed trail running, all on the same setting.
Just ordered 550 3300kv Axe for my new element build! What pinion should I get for low speed and top speed fun? I have x3 mamba X, revolver and puller pro. So trying out axe. Want a crawler / basher that can get wet. The downside for me is weight vs hh/castle stuff 360g vs 320g.
Oh man, you need a massive pinion gear. Theyse things have so much torque but are not high rpm.
RC Review so like 18t lol
RC Review so what gear ratio do you like and rpm speed? I was thinking of keeping it around 8-9k rpm. 23t pinion on stock 87t spur on 3s is around 9777rpm. I am going to swap out 48p for 32p because of 5mm bore, the pinion at 32p look much better. Then if I run a 56t spur and 15t pinion I should have 9908rpm. But i see lots if people gear way down with HH motors. To the 3-4krpm. Thats to slow for me. I think trick like you said with Axe is gear up. 8-10k rpm prob perfect for trail truck.
Just got a trx4sport
This one not an obvious choice. If you got a Bronco or defender, you need this. For you, the 1080 ESC for brushed motors is key for the money.
I thought voltage times kV gave RPM... So 3300kV at 3s (11.1 nominal) should be 36,630 rpm unloaded.
So what’s the part number if I want one for my trx4 sport
What did you do with the fan? It has a extremely short wire. Especially for TRX4. Did you use it? At least on Mamba X it is integrated. Something someone should point out. Is it constant taking up a port on your receiver. It’s another negative.
I'm running a 2 to 1 splitter and have the fan hooked to the receiver with the power feed so it comes on when I turn the ESC on.
Do you burn up your reciever or micro servos when you run the bec in this at 7.4v?
yes
I bought myself the 550 Axe combo very recently. I just got it in the mail like 3 days ago. The motor in my TRX4 Bronco is starting to do some glitching and ive been wanting the axe system since I first seen it. I bought the 3300 kv system but have no intention of using it for speed. Heck I rarely ever put my TRX4 in high range. I'm looking forward to getting it installed and getting rid of the brushed system currently in it. If I want to go faster, I would use my Summit. Faster still I've got 9 others to pick from. Probably my fastest surface RC is my Super Rock Rey, unless you put my boat in race. My TRX4 is by far my slowest and I'm not planning on changing that. My crawler is 100% a crawler. Ive got an RC for every niche except road car (but that will probably be filled this year) and a 1/5th scale (which will also probably be filled this year). I want an XO-1 and the Losi 5T and those are planned for this year. After that, a few more planes and I should be done.
Thanks for the review.What a fantastic system this is. Can anyone use this system in any other way except crawler mode? Can it be used on a Monster truck? Or a SCT using regular forward brake and reverse? Thanks for any good info. :)
Yes! Not ideal but it will work. Especially the 550.
@@RCReviewChannel Cool! Thank you for the input. :)
I just bot the trx6 and ordered the hobbywing axe 550 3300kv combo. Will the same pinion from the stock traxxas 550 motor fit the hobbywing axe 550 ? If no what pinion is recommended for trail and crawling combo.
No, I believe the Trx6 runs the same factory Titan 21T with a 3mm shaft as the trx4.. The Axe 550 has a 5 mm shaft, so you'll need a completely different pinion all together because the shaft size is larger 👍🏼
Hi i have the gen8 axe can i just get the 550 motor will it work
Hi, iam from Germany and i look your TH-cam Channel every day. Now i have a Capra and installed the HW Xerum Axe 550 Combo and take the same Setup like you on the same way via Bluetooth and my Phone. But iam not so happy, because the topspeed is very low, i think 5 or 7 mp/h and the acceleration is not so quickly like yours and it is by far not so smooth like your Crawler in the Video. Do have an idea, what i make wrong ?
Thanks a lot !
I am considering getting the 550 3300kv motor and putting it in the Gen 8 Axe and taking the 540 2300kv from the Gen 8 axe and putting it in the Capra. Does anyone have any input on this? Currently I have 4 feet of snow on the ground and can not really test anything until May.
Which servo should i buy for the 550 3300kv ESC Combo motor? Many thanks!
Servo? Anything that can take a 7.4v input and is over 300 oz/in of torque is good. The Savox 1210 is a safe bet. Reefs 444 too.
Will this work for a temper gen2 ?
Can you use any brushless Hobbywing motor with the same ESC? I was hoping to upgrade my Gen 8 Axe Edition eventually without replacing the ESC
Yes most definitely.
@@RCReviewChannelthe ESC on mine doesn't have a fan. Do you think I'd need one for the 3300kv motor?
Also do you think it's too much power for the Redcat drivetrain?
Can i connect the axe to my android smart phone?How does it connect, bluetooth or cable?
Thats sounds great,Thx!
Where can I get one?
Hey Francis I purchased this set-up, running 3s lipo 100% forward force the ESC cuts out at full-throttle, is this happening to you? I changed foward force to 87.5% and at full throttle there are no cut outs. I am wondering if you are having the same issue? Thank you!
me too, whats up anyone know?
@@allenpinson1198 hello Allen I spoke with Hobbywing and they told me a fix for this issue. take 1 or two fender washers and place it on the flat end of the motor closest to the servo, that will prevent the magnets from getting any interference from being too close to the servo. If you want to see pictures of it I can e-mail you
@@bryce_949 deff going to try this, i was thinking maybe it was a crap battery and couldnt keep up with amps but this is a cheaper fix. the can is very close to the servo
@@allenpinson1198 same I tried 7 different batteries all the with the same results, the fender washer trick works like a charm! Cheers m8!
@@bryce_949 how did you fasen the washer on ?
Is there a substitute for this motor? Just wanna go faster than the stock trx4 motor. Don’t wanna spend $250. Thanks!!!
Holmes and hobby 8t or 10t 550 crawlmaster is what your looking for it's 20$
But thanks for Doing that video on battery charging
just got a 550 axe for my gen 8 now my gen 8 is bette than axe edition. 550 power
That is the winning move right there.
BEC question? If you set the BEC to 7.4v won´t it be too much for the smal servos in the trx6 ?
That is correct. They will fail eventually. Thus we're using 6.0 volts on a brushless Traxxas 400 servo.
One can get micro servos that accept 7.4 volts but that's a pain to purchase and install. Sucks!
@@RCReviewChannel Too bad it would be nice to 7.4v. If an solution for this gets better or easier ill be looking forward to that video :)
@@WIDGET738 I just got the TRX6 and I am Planning on using the servos to they break. But I am installing the 550 3300kv axe system right away and the 7.4 option just tempted me and i might try theese out www.modelsport.co.uk/power-hd-servo-hd-tr-4-waterprrof-metal-gears-for-trx4/rc-car-products/442612
@@Wreenz Banggood do those servos at £13.60 each, far cheaper if you don't mind the wait 👍
@@yaffajaff Ooh.. Thank you. The stock ones are still good so the wait is no problem. :)
What's better the HW 1080 brushed crawler esc or the HW Axe
Axe is better especially the 550 in the toughest conditions. For the money though, the 1080 with a Trailmaster motor can't be beat.
Hello everyone, does anyone know if this 550 goes into Gmade Gom?
Thinking of getting the Axe 540 / 2300kV
Does it still have good punch?
Its going in a VS4-10 pro
Yes punch is good now with the new firmware, version 1.1
@@RCReviewChannel
Whats the best 540 motor with best modulation and top speed to go in a vs4-10 pro.
Is it the HW 540 axe?
Thinking axe 540 2300 or 550 2700 for my trx4 , which one is better for trx4?
Will this fifth my axial 6x6 ? And what esc is best for this ?
This will not fit. You need the Hobbywing 540 Axe, 2300kv. It comes with its own ESC.
My trx 6 weights about 15 lbs would this handle that kind of weight ?
Absolutely get the 550 3800 kv with 3s battery and it will handle it.....my trx4 is 12 lbs and the axe has no issues
First, it dont eat up my brusshes and power under water !
So your saying I can put that 550 on my new Axe?
Does the new axe have the .2.0 firmware?
Be honest I don’t know, it’s so sick it wouldn’t surprise me. My new gen8 is setup can’t see it getting much better. I haven’t downloaded the app yet to turn everything up and dial her in proper, seeing what stock settings can do.
Max speed??? Axe 550 3300kv
Still debating if I need this setup?
No need... only want. In the end we think it's crucial if you have a 2-speed TRX-4 setup. Or if you want to run in water and dirt
@@RCReviewChannel
I was thinking about it for my element enduro but now I probably won't get it..thanks for the insight!..I put the stock trx-4 motor in my element and love it!
Can i put this beast in a axial unimog 6x6?? Thanks
It's not advisable. The drivetrain simply is not strong enough for something with this much power. Aside from the acceleration, the real big problem is the braking. The force comes from the wheels and the helical gears will get stripped with the power of tis motor and the weight of the vehicle when force is coming from the wheels, braking from high speed.
@@RCReviewChannel i guess im buying a trx6 then 😉
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Hobbywing max10 120a sensors 4s
I want just a little more wheel speed out of her
I am from India I want develop trusk size but on the tray
I put 6s BLX arrma infraction in Axial iii bronco, i think I’m crazy… lol
Im considering the Axe 550-3300kv system for my TRX-4 Blazer and I wanted to know if I'm required to change the spur gear on my truck or if the factory one is ok. I'm looking for increased top speed and improved crawl speed. What should I run?
I used the stock spur gear and a 12 tooth pinion. It blows by stock trx4s like they are in low gear but crawls great. I may try the 11 to see how it acts. I have the 2700kv and my truck weighs 9lbs 3oz with the battery in it and body on it.
Where do you get the 550 is it really discontinued or is the 540 same have a trx4
HEY GUYS! So what’s the deal here, it says this is discontinued, and everywhere else is out of stock...........what’s another option, and why discontinued
2 Weeks late, but I believe it was discontinued because they released a new version of it the "R2" and they should start getting out to retailers by now at least. I got a 540 for my TRX 4 and might get another one for the TRX 6
Oooh, a new charismas present.. There's an R2.
Sidewinder 4/ Holmes revolver is a way better setup and cheaper
How exactly is it better? We're getting that package next week.
More programming options with the castle link. Adjusting the throttle curve with your computer lets optimizes very slow startup. Much slower than the axe system. The revolver motor is made for absolute torq and ultra slow startup speed. You will love it!!!! With the revolver Set timing to 0, set start power to Hi, and you will see what I’m saying. It is a louder system but the performance makes up for it!
On the throttle curve, at 60% throttle set the power output to 20%. That helps it to make the throttle output much less sensitive meaning even more controlled startup
Sorry but revolvers suck all the fun out of this hobby for me. Way too loud and annoying
Is it true 550 motor give 70-90% more torque than 540?
Do not know. It certainly feels like it. Wish they published specs.
So.... is brushless worth it on a crawler!!??? This one is
Only if this wasn't that expensive :( brushed 1080 beats this for the price
Problem is the 1080 brushed option is just so good and cheap.
RC Review exactly.. it would be nice to have the axe but not gonna pay that much .. competition maybe but for normal people .. doesn't make sense
Crazy expensive. My Trailmaster 550 27T and 1080 was 1/4 the price and it performs great
A Google User that doesn't matter really if the product is too expensive for the market and there is very little buying power. What that only means is bad strategy. You need to understand this is for hobby market, not many people will drop 200-300 USD on motor ESC combo especially when they can get 1080 and trail master for $60 that does the same thing but it's not that fency 😂
Yeah I bet I would, but as I said not gonna happen for that price I can have scx10 kit lol 😂
Love my Axe system. Been running it since around February. I have the 1800kv. Check out some crawl videos on my IG page RC_TR3K 👍
Good to hear. So smooth and easy to use.
Bitchin;)
Discontinued
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