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Barriss going from “I think these suit me better” when referring to Ventress’ red lightsabers to “Then you have one jedi left to deal with” is crazy, I’m glad to see her redeem herself
That line never really fit anyway. She bombed the Temple to protest the Jedi becoming "an army fighting for the Dark Side", but now Ventress' red blades "suit" her? Doesn't make much sense to me, but I agree, seeing her find her peace is nice.
@WaveSquadron, 7:34 Barriss never stopped being a Jedi though. She was against their involvement in the war. She did what she did to make a course correction for the Jedi--her story in this anthology starts by showing us that she is still very much connected to her brothers and sisters. The rest of her story shows her compassion and hesitance towards this new path. Barriss knows what she's getting into isn't good, but she also doesn't want to die. She was given a second chance and she took it. This mission is her first mission after becoming an Inquisitor. She didn't like having to kill her former friend, but that was in self-defense, so that was much easier for her to live with. What Lyn did to the refugees on this planet was beyond the pale, but Barriss knew she couldn't do anything about it and that she'd have to soldier on. What happened on the mount top was the last straw--the Jedi in her couldn't take it anymore. She thought she could walk a different path from her teachings, but the compassion that was her center told her otherwise. Barriss was always a Jedi. She was just a Jedi worn down by the war, a Jedi who wanted a different life for her family.
To be fair: She did absolutely fall to the dark side quite a bit. Like yes a lot of the stuff she did was in the hope that things could get better: But she still hurt people to try and get what she wanted, and even in the end used Ventress' red lightsabers and said "I think they suit me better." She definitely lost sight of being a Jedi for a while because of her anger against the Jedi's decisions in the war.
@@phyco9635 I disagree with your word choice, “absolutely.” At some point, one is beyond redemption and lost. Barriss was a less-extreme version of Pong Krell, though if time were on her side she probably would have gotten there. Barriss didn’t go as far as Dooku, who plotted against the Jedi to bring them ruin. Barriss was trying to set the Jedi straight. Yes, she did say that Ventress’ lightsabers suited her better, but there’s probably more to that than what’s on the surface. Ventress wasn’t Sith, but she was Jedi. I’m not saying that Ventress wouldn’t have taken the next step if given the chance, she very likely would have. Either way, she never got the chance to take that final step. More importantly, at that point of the story, Ventress was working as a bounty hunter on her own with no affiliation to either side of the Force or war. Taking the lightsabers that belonged to a former Jedi who has no affiliation might have been more pleasing to Barriss at the time.
Funnily enough, in the novels such as the Revenge of the Sith novelisation’s, it’s Palpatine that’s referred to as “The Shadow” or the shadow of the dark side, so it’s funny that his apprentice received the same nickname.
This is definitely not how imagined Barriss’s story going but man, I love what they did with it in these episodes. Between this series and ToTJ, her story is probably my 2nd favorite behind Dooku’s.
Same here. Dooku's story was the best one in Tales of Jedi and Barriss's story in Tales of the Empire is my favourite and honestly the only one I was looking forward to watch in Empire.
Lots of people have been complaining that these characters aren’t significant or popular enough for the show to be about them. I find that opinion so short sighted. New characters are what keep the franchise interesting and engaging. I’d much rather we continue to explore these smaller less established characters and they can become their own unique characters in their own rights, with cool stories to boot!
These are definitely characters that weren’t having their story told through this kind of short form storytelling, but I don’t know if I’d ever given their own show or movie.
After seeing it, I hope that, decades later, The Acolytes Of The Beyond have it among their wares, and one of their Shadows wears it. Imagine that helmet in live-action.
It would be very funny if this franchise had a running gag of killing off Shaak Ti in random moments scattered around the timeline with zero context as to how.
*[1]* I loved all the ideological back-and-forth between Barriss and the Fourth Sister, as well as their different methods of getting information. *[2]* Barriss coaxing the child was uncomfortable not only because it was so evil, but because I wasn't certain if she was deliberately manipulating or just trying to get through a child's fear (removing her helmet reminded me of when Waxer took off his helmet to show Numa that him and Boil weren't droids). *[3]* I was surprised to see the child hug Barriss, but it offered some solid, silent characterisation. Barriss almost puts herself between the child and the Fourrh Sister, but not quite. She tells him to not look, but doesn't comfort or apologise, or even say something like "I didn't know she'd do that." She's got some compassion, but she's still an Inquisitor, and not supposed to comfort children. I totally expected the Fourth Sister to kill him too, but she doesn't. She's definitely evil, but she won't kill a kid, so there's still some good in her - foreshadowing her apparent return to the Light Side in the next short. *[4]* It's a brief moment, but Bariss warns the Fourth Sister of the rockfall, and the Fourth Sister doesn't catch or wait for Barriss when she's hit by it. *[5]* I was totally expecting one of the other Inquisitor contenders, or the Jedi hiding in the mountains, to be a youngling from _The Clone Wars'_ youngling arc. A missed opportunity, I think. *[6]* Non-binary representation! The unnamed Jedi is consistently referred to with they/them pronouns.
Another note to [6], I didn't even notice until others pointed it out. In the english language it makes sense to refer to someone as they/them if you don't know them. I just took it as that. Or maybe its just becoming normal for me.
3:05 I was very confused because I thought there was going to be multiple Jedi… the whole fight I thought a second Jedi was going to pop out and ambush the inquisitors…
I looove this story and Barriss's journey. She is not evil. She was against the war and wanted the Jedi to stop being soldiers and go back to protecting the galaxy. But she went about it in the completely wrong way. But that doesn't mean she suddenly wants to kill every Jedi or murder innocent people. Obviously the Empire and being an inquisitor was never what she wanted. I think the progression also makes a lot of sense. The imperials know she is in jail for a terrorist attack on the Jedi, so she gets offered the chance to join their Jedi hunters. From inside the jail, the only source for information on Order 66 is the empire itself, plus she was probably very lonely and confused after everything that happened. That makes it easy to believe the propaganda. Still she was hesitant to kill the other "inquisitor to be" last episode, and as soon as she sees the actual harm they are doing, she nopes out and turns on the empire. I love it. I'm glad we got to see this story continue and I'm looking forward to your reaction to the finale 😊
When Lyn The Fourth Sister Inquisitor unalives everyone...it's one of the darkest moments ever shown in a SW project. Anakin unaliving the Younglings is probably the darkest, but nothing is really shown...only suggested. Here, yeah a LOT was suggested, but some was actually shown but it was also heard and seen while happening without seeing the acts...whereas the Younglings they just cut away. Kudos for letting them go THAT Dark here.
I can understand where this thought is coming from, but a game like that will never exist, because you don't want to glorify imperialism, random murder and all the other things the inquisitors stand for.
@@Olochgu We had the Force Unleashed series which for the most part was everything you described, ofcours Starkiller does turn good in the end and fights against the Empire but it doesn't change what he did before
The ending was horrible. We waited 10 YEARS to know what really happend to Barris. And in the ending, she died in a cheap way from an unknown inquisitor which was just 3 mins in a Kenobi show, that´s ... NO! Disney touched Dave Filoni´s work again. And in this Episode, where they pronounced the 1 jedi as "they, them" hell no. That´s why the people call it woke. They should stop pushing these nonsense in kids-show.
Bariss is a jedi, because she sees the empire as the evil it is. Took a massacre of innocents but some dumbasses take longer to realise they fell into evil. Bariss wanted a galaxy of justice and the inquisition ain't it
The ONE thing I wish the did here was make Bariss a Neutral force user instead of reverting her back to a Jedi. It would make more sense to reject the view of the Empire and still keep her negative views of the Jedi. She had her own reasons to dislike to Order which is why she bombed the temple in the first place, so having her just do a complete 180 and call herself a Jedi instead of finding her own path seems like a bit of a cop-out for her development. (imo)
I love the subtle bit effective nonbinary representation in this episode. As an enby myself, I was so happy to see that "they are in the mountains" was a singular they. Wonderful!
Because the character “identifies” that way and I guess you’re somehow supposed to know that. Disney is trying to shove it down our throats especially when it doesn’t make sense or is unnecessary. I thought there were going to be multiple Jedi because of this. You’re telling me the evil empires inquisitors respect gender pronouns? It’s ridiculous. Could’ve just made it a male character and it wouldn’t have made a difference in the story. They just put it in for inclusion for the sake of virtue signaling.
I’m kinda on the fence about bariss getting a redemption arc… on the one hand it kinda makes sense but on the other side it kinda downplays her betrayal to ahsoka
I'm actually Very happy with what they did with her I can understand why some people don't like it but I don't think she would ever remain apart of the empire it's just like the jedi council corrupt.
That’s exactly what I thought. I was thinking they’re multiple different jedis the inquisitors were looking for. It was unnecessary inclusion for the sake of virtue signaling.
@@MarcusFrederiksen her death was a lil underwhelming and there is a time jump where she can do stuff, but I wouldve like to see more out of her story on screen. It felt like disney not gonna touch her again.
@@mrwatermelo50 Her "death" was very open ended, which most likely means that she isn't dead. These are short stories, of course there's gonna be stuff that we would like to see more of. Also, Barriss' story can continue in other formats like book, comics and the Jedi game series with Cal Kestis isn't finished yet either, maybe Barriss could have a role there?
WTF was the sudden use of pronouns - they/them for the hiding Jedi on the top of the mountain????? SOOO stupid - for one - the Jedi never introduced himself using a stupid pronoun??? so how did the two inquisitors know to refer to Him as they??? come on Disney - get over your need to virtue signal.
@@theunknownuser9609 The oposite. I enjoyed her dark descent. We could finally have a solid opponent for Ahsoka, somebody she knows, somebody who knows here, like Obi-wan knew Anakin! But instead we got a lazy ass cop out...
@@MrTragedious986 Thats because we didn't get to spend that much time with her. They could have explored that part deeper I'l admit, but I still thought it was the best direction for her. Especially better than what ever tales of the empire did...
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Lyn’s massacre made me realize what all the bots go through whenever I rampaged as Vader in Battlefront 2015’s offline Walker Assault. 😅
One game in that mode, I had over 450 kills as Palpatine. Never felt so powerful
Barriss going from “I think these suit me better” when referring to Ventress’ red lightsabers to “Then you have one jedi left to deal with” is crazy, I’m glad to see her redeem herself
Especially given her remorsless murder of 4 or 5 innocents in Clone Wars
That line never really fit anyway. She bombed the Temple to protest the Jedi becoming "an army fighting for the Dark Side", but now Ventress' red blades "suit" her? Doesn't make much sense to me, but I agree, seeing her find her peace is nice.
Tired of redemption
@@fulcrumagent then stop watching Star Wars because redemption is 1 if its main themes
@@DarthDimadome Maybe she REALLY loves the curved shape 🤣 kidding
6:43 OMG Eric's face!!! LMFAO!
Yeah and you know why
@WaveSquadron,
7:34 Barriss never stopped being a Jedi though. She was against their involvement in the war. She did what she did to make a course correction for the Jedi--her story in this anthology starts by showing us that she is still very much connected to her brothers and sisters. The rest of her story shows her compassion and hesitance towards this new path. Barriss knows what she's getting into isn't good, but she also doesn't want to die. She was given a second chance and she took it. This mission is her first mission after becoming an Inquisitor. She didn't like having to kill her former friend, but that was in self-defense, so that was much easier for her to live with. What Lyn did to the refugees on this planet was beyond the pale, but Barriss knew she couldn't do anything about it and that she'd have to soldier on. What happened on the mount top was the last straw--the Jedi in her couldn't take it anymore. She thought she could walk a different path from her teachings, but the compassion that was her center told her otherwise.
Barriss was always a Jedi. She was just a Jedi worn down by the war, a Jedi who wanted a different life for her family.
To be fair: She did absolutely fall to the dark side quite a bit.
Like yes a lot of the stuff she did was in the hope that things could get better: But she still hurt people to try and get what she wanted, and even in the end used Ventress' red lightsabers and said "I think they suit me better."
She definitely lost sight of being a Jedi for a while because of her anger against the Jedi's decisions in the war.
@@phyco9635 I disagree with your word choice, “absolutely.” At some point, one is beyond redemption and lost. Barriss was a less-extreme version of Pong Krell, though if time were on her side she probably would have gotten there.
Barriss didn’t go as far as Dooku, who plotted against the Jedi to bring them ruin. Barriss was trying to set the Jedi straight. Yes, she did say that Ventress’ lightsabers suited her better, but there’s probably more to that than what’s on the surface. Ventress wasn’t Sith, but she was Jedi. I’m not saying that Ventress wouldn’t have taken the next step if given the chance, she very likely would have. Either way, she never got the chance to take that final step. More importantly, at that point of the story, Ventress was working as a bounty hunter on her own with no affiliation to either side of the Force or war. Taking the lightsabers that belonged to a former Jedi who has no affiliation might have been more pleasing to Barriss at the time.
An Inquisitor game would be cool, imagine one of the boss fights is “the shadow” to show how he got his new lightsaber.
Funnily enough, in the novels such as the Revenge of the Sith novelisation’s, it’s Palpatine that’s referred to as “The Shadow” or the shadow of the dark side, so it’s funny that his apprentice received the same nickname.
This is definitely not how imagined Barriss’s story going but man, I love what they did with it in these episodes. Between this series and ToTJ, her story is probably my 2nd favorite behind Dooku’s.
Same here. Dooku's story was the best one in Tales of Jedi and Barriss's story in Tales of the Empire is my favourite and honestly the only one I was looking forward to watch in Empire.
Same
Lynn has become one of my favourite characters thank to this show.
Lots of people have been complaining that these characters aren’t significant or popular enough for the show to be about them. I find that opinion so short sighted. New characters are what keep the franchise interesting and engaging. I’d much rather we continue to explore these smaller less established characters and they can become their own unique characters in their own rights, with cool stories to boot!
That's funny since Barriss was a fan favorite Clone Wars character and lots off fans wanted to see her story continue the most.
I love the arc about Barriss. If there is a Kenobi 2, I hope she is in it.
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 yep, and yet you had a certain Star Wars TH-camr think otherwise with regards to that😂
These are definitely characters that weren’t having their story told through this kind of short form storytelling, but I don’t know if I’d ever given their own show or movie.
Completely makes sense for these tales series. Especially because I think the old comics that share the same name did a similar thing.
Really love seeing Baris again after so long and I really wish Baris and Ahsoka saw each other again
Barriss's inquisitor helmet has to to be my favorite helmet in star wars
After seeing it, I hope that, decades later, The Acolytes Of The Beyond have it among their wares, and one of their Shadows wears it. Imagine that helmet in live-action.
Barriss: 🤔 "waitaminit... Are WE the Baddies?"
So, chalk up another one on Yoda's extensive list of "not a jedi."
It would be very funny if this franchise had a running gag of killing off Shaak Ti in random moments scattered around the timeline with zero context as to how.
*[1]* I loved all the ideological back-and-forth between Barriss and the Fourth Sister, as well as their different methods of getting information.
*[2]* Barriss coaxing the child was uncomfortable not only because it was so evil, but because I wasn't certain if she was deliberately manipulating or just trying to get through a child's fear (removing her helmet reminded me of when Waxer took off his helmet to show Numa that him and Boil weren't droids).
*[3]* I was surprised to see the child hug Barriss, but it offered some solid, silent characterisation. Barriss almost puts herself between the child and the Fourrh Sister, but not quite. She tells him to not look, but doesn't comfort or apologise, or even say something like "I didn't know she'd do that." She's got some compassion, but she's still an Inquisitor, and not supposed to comfort children. I totally expected the Fourth Sister to kill him too, but she doesn't. She's definitely evil, but she won't kill a kid, so there's still some good in her - foreshadowing her apparent return to the Light Side in the next short.
*[4]* It's a brief moment, but Bariss warns the Fourth Sister of the rockfall, and the Fourth Sister doesn't catch or wait for Barriss when she's hit by it.
*[5]* I was totally expecting one of the other Inquisitor contenders, or the Jedi hiding in the mountains, to be a youngling from _The Clone Wars'_ youngling arc. A missed opportunity, I think.
*[6]* Non-binary representation! The unnamed Jedi is consistently referred to with they/them pronouns.
To 6: They use neo-pronouns in the German dub (we don't have an equivalent of singular they) and I did NOT expect that :D
Another note to [6], I didn't even notice until others pointed it out. In the english language it makes sense to refer to someone as they/them if you don't know them. I just took it as that. Or maybe its just becoming normal for me.
3:05 I was very confused because I thought there was going to be multiple Jedi… the whole fight I thought a second Jedi was going to pop out and ambush the inquisitors…
I looove this story and Barriss's journey. She is not evil. She was against the war and wanted the Jedi to stop being soldiers and go back to protecting the galaxy. But she went about it in the completely wrong way. But that doesn't mean she suddenly wants to kill every Jedi or murder innocent people. Obviously the Empire and being an inquisitor was never what she wanted.
I think the progression also makes a lot of sense. The imperials know she is in jail for a terrorist attack on the Jedi, so she gets offered the chance to join their Jedi hunters. From inside the jail, the only source for information on Order 66 is the empire itself, plus she was probably very lonely and confused after everything that happened. That makes it easy to believe the propaganda. Still she was hesitant to kill the other "inquisitor to be" last episode, and as soon as she sees the actual harm they are doing, she nopes out and turns on the empire. I love it. I'm glad we got to see this story continue and I'm looking forward to your reaction to the finale 😊
When Lyn The Fourth Sister Inquisitor unalives everyone...it's one of the darkest moments ever shown in a SW project. Anakin unaliving the Younglings is probably the darkest, but nothing is really shown...only suggested. Here, yeah a LOT was suggested, but some was actually shown but it was also heard and seen while happening without seeing the acts...whereas the Younglings they just cut away. Kudos for letting them go THAT Dark here.
An Inquisitor game would be so cool. Just hunting down surviving Jedi. Maybe even throw in some detective elements.
I can understand where this thought is coming from, but a game like that will never exist, because you don't want to glorify imperialism, random murder and all the other things the inquisitors stand for.
@@Olochgu Your character can turn good in the end. Like they did with Iden Versio in the Battlefront 2 campaign.
@@JK_of_Today Or honestly even The Force Unleashed 1. A good chunk of that is like being an Inquisitor, in story
@@Olochgu We had the Force Unleashed series which for the most part was everything you described, ofcours Starkiller does turn good in the end and fights against the Empire but it doesn't change what he did before
Unfortunately it will not look like that if they released it. They will make it YET another boring redemption story.
This and the next one were my favorites. Can't wait for your reaction to the finale.
The ending was horrible. We waited 10 YEARS to know what really happend to Barris. And in the ending, she died in a cheap way from an unknown inquisitor which was just 3 mins in a Kenobi show, that´s ... NO! Disney touched Dave Filoni´s work again. And in this Episode, where they pronounced the 1 jedi as "they, them" hell no. That´s why the people call it woke. They should stop pushing these nonsense in kids-show.
If Krell was alive for the Empire I have no doubt that he would have become the Grand Inquisitor.
Is this the same planet Kenobi went to and Vader found him at the path? If so Bariss maybe started the Path here
You mean Mapuzo?
Bariss is a jedi, because she sees the empire as the evil it is. Took a massacre of innocents but some dumbasses take longer to realise they fell into evil. Bariss wanted a galaxy of justice and the inquisition ain't it
4:24 respect it? They’re DEAD 😂
Twisted, sick logic...steeped in The Dark Side.
I do find it kinda funny how many people wants Ahsoka and Bariss to team up despite all the shit the latter did to the former
I have been looking forward for this
Thanks to Eric, Calvin and Aaron! 📜
The ONE thing I wish the did here was make Bariss a Neutral force user instead of reverting her back to a Jedi.
It would make more sense to reject the view of the Empire and still keep her negative views of the Jedi.
She had her own reasons to dislike to Order which is why she bombed the temple in the first place, so having her just do a complete 180 and call herself a Jedi instead of finding her own path seems like a bit of a cop-out for her development. (imo)
6:40 Battlefront in a nutshell
I love the subtle bit effective nonbinary representation in this episode. As an enby myself, I was so happy to see that "they are in the mountains" was a singular they. Wonderful!
I personally would've preferred Barriss to stay an Inquisitor but I don't hate what they did.
BARIS is a TRATOR long live THE EMPIRE!!!🤯........😅.......🤣😂🤣😂🤣
"From a certain point of view," the olde man was telling the truth. She did not ask and he did not say there were no Jedi on the PLANET, just here.
😈
THAT'S FUCKED UP
Where's the reactions for the Acolyte episodes?
tomorrow
“Them” lol wtf. It’s one Jedi they killed?
Gotta love woke pronouns.
Why Barris saying we need to save them and they? It was just one jedi. 6:15
Because the character “identifies” that way and I guess you’re somehow supposed to know that. Disney is trying to shove it down our throats especially when it doesn’t make sense or is unnecessary. I thought there were going to be multiple Jedi because of this. You’re telling me the evil empires inquisitors respect gender pronouns? It’s ridiculous. Could’ve just made it a male character and it wouldn’t have made a difference in the story. They just put it in for inclusion for the sake of virtue signaling.
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I’m kinda on the fence about bariss getting a redemption arc… on the one hand it kinda makes sense but on the other side it kinda downplays her betrayal to ahsoka
I'm actually Very happy with what they did with her I can understand why some people don't like it but I don't think she would ever remain apart of the empire it's just like the jedi council corrupt.
@@tylerschofield8299 never mind she murdered innocent people tho
@@heesoo18so did fucking Anakin bro
@@brettbaumler754 ya
@@brettbaumler754 Vaders redemption was a journey.. barriss redemption just didn’t feel earned
Man, there's so many people who don't understand what star wars is about with all their bad takes
Or their subjective opinion which will be different than yours
the problem with this they thing is that you cant tell if your talking about one guy or several
That’s exactly what I thought. I was thinking they’re multiple different jedis the inquisitors were looking for. It was unnecessary inclusion for the sake of virtue signaling.
Gotta respect those pronouns after murdering 30 people
Tales of the Empire was super disappointing imo
This Episode was so good and they threw it all out the Window :/
How so?
@@MarcusFrederiksen her death was a lil underwhelming and there is a time jump where she can do stuff, but I wouldve like to see more out of her story on screen. It felt like disney not gonna touch her again.
@@mrwatermelo50
Her "death" was very open ended, which most likely means that she isn't dead. These are short stories, of course there's gonna be stuff that we would like to see more of.
Also, Barriss' story can continue in other formats like book, comics and the Jedi game series with Cal Kestis isn't finished yet either, maybe Barriss could have a role there?
@@MarcusFrederiksen totally missed everything i said
There is no way in hell they’d do what they did with Bariss’ story and then never use her again
WTF was the sudden use of pronouns - they/them for the hiding Jedi on the top of the mountain????? SOOO stupid - for one - the Jedi never introduced himself using a stupid pronoun??? so how did the two inquisitors know to refer to Him as they??? come on Disney - get over your need to virtue signal.
I hate what this show did to Bariss... So much wasted potential...
What? How?
You mean they fixed her from the character assasination she had in season 5 of The Clone Wars?
@@theunknownuser9609 The oposite. I enjoyed her dark descent. We could finally have a solid opponent for Ahsoka, somebody she knows, somebody who knows here, like Obi-wan knew Anakin!
But instead we got a lazy ass cop out...
@@petrgalko4152honestly her turned to the dark side did kinda felt rushed in Clone Wars.
@@MrTragedious986 Thats because we didn't get to spend that much time with her. They could have explored that part deeper I'l admit, but I still thought it was the best direction for her.
Especially better than what ever tales of the empire did...