Im sure they already told you, but in sand you need to get your speed up, sit farther back, keep your arms loose and let the front tire find its way (Literally been on a dirtbike since i could walk)
I wish I knew that before my first excursion in wet, deep sand. I saw advice telling me to sit forward...I ate it a dozen times before my friend told me that's not how to do it in sand or slick conditions. Keeping that speed up while the front warbles took some balls after spilling that much haha
Hey noobs! Just wanna let you know that after watching your video for over a year I finally went out and bought a bike! Then stacked it 2 days later. I now have to replace the pillion seat, left rider foot peg, gear selector, left indicator, left mirror and most fairings on the left side. I've also gotten a broken foot and road rash down my left side. Still hasn't put me off thought! Soon as my moon boot is off and I've repaired the damages I'll be right back on the road again! Thanks for all your videos they've helped a lot!
I had the chance to test ride the PanAm in NH this summer. It's pretty awesome - no question. The bigger take-away for me is the importance of getting some good training on how to ride a big bike off-road. They're not 300 lb dirt bikes. Spike was fortunate to be trained by one of the best Co's in the business - Rawhyde. I took a 5-day training course with them earlier this year. Cracked a couple of ribs on day 2 in the sand pit (totally my fault) , but stuck it out. Got to know the medic really well (candyman). Back in the northeast this fall, I'm a way better rider on the trails with my big bike. There's a time and place for a trail bike and a different time and place for a big ADV bike. Kudos to Spite for sharing.
Never been a huge Harley guy (or ADV guy, my brother's Versys-X 300 is the only "adv" I've ridden lmao) but this bike looks fantastic. Truly impressed, especially considering how Spite doesn't have decades off-road seat time (no offense intended, it just speaks to how easily the bike can be wrangled). The weight appears, at face value, to be the only real issue; but the fact that the massive GSA1250 dominates the class kind of negates that argument, if that can comfortably negotiate trails I can't imagine this won't be able to. 10/10 gonna recommend to my brother as his upgrade bike lmao
Does the fact the GSA dominates the segment negate the weight argument... No, the versys x300 and even the lil 310gs are just as capable off-road as the GSA. Physics don't lie. A lighter average bike will always beat a heavier "more capable" bike off-road imo
This looks fun, and I'm happy that HD did something new, also the event itself is a nice idea. Not a fan of the looks of this bike, but I'm excided to see what Harley has to offer in the future.
I'm impressed. I've always liked Harley's but when I was little, they had serios quality issues. I own 2 now and love them. Would love to ad one of these to the mix!
learn slow, go fast. Great bike, would love to test one for a day. Big bikes CAN go off road. The difference is, when the going gets tough, the lighter bikes become the faster bikes and are more easy to handle. I learned on the smaller bikes and worked my way up over 35 years untill i owned a BMW HP2. The toughest and fastest offroad bike on the planet for years. 1200cc and only 185kg wet (407 lbs) and that was build in 2005 !!!. The Pan American did the same as BMW did with the GS bikes after the HP2. They made the GS more heavy and with that, more road oriented (which is ok, coarse there is more asphalt ). Everything over 440 lbs is more of a fight in the rough offroad parts.
Had the Zakar experience last May with the same crew; an awesome group of committed coaches. I’ve got 3,300 on my PA and find myself riding it more than my Glide.
For a second at the beginning of the video I thought he was referring to the Pan America being ridiculously fast until I heard that in-line four sound of the Turbo Charged BUSA!!!! Can’t wait for one million.
The TLDR seems to be “Spite has never taken an advanced rider course.” Isn’t that contrary to everything you guys have said in noob rider vids? Facts, you guys need to give more love to DDFM.
I like this channel but if you want a serious evaluation of a bike’s pros and cons...you need experienced high level riders. Good on Spite for putting this out there. It’s not his comfort zone. I don’t care what anyone says, these big bikes are not for the inexperienced. I hope that’s the takeaway for the noob audience. Now listen....about that TURBO BUSA 🤯
All of us Millennials are about to go through our ADV metamorphosis and I think Harley has done a good thing here.... now hopefully they drop that same engine into a naked bike and keep making good decisions moving forward
Yam I love your use of classical music. I'm not all about it, but the bangers are bangers and I love to hear them when I can. You're one of my favorite content creators.
I had a '79 Goldwing at one point...weighed about the same as the Pan America. Have you seen Goldwing Motocross by Dos Honduros You Tube channel? Hysterical seeing guys getting rad on a barge.. Fun to watch but I wouldn't want to die on that hill.
That said, it is probably perfect for touring in the US due to decent roads, long distances, etc. The HD Road King I rode in the US made a lot of sense when I was there....but not fir jumping that gutter two up...or off-road deep sand at speed...
I did an Adv Rally event near Anza Borrego that was partially sponsored by HD to promote this bike. I'll say this much, it's a nice departure from what HD has been doing. Also, the events were scored and the teams that were the most effective (read: highest scores) rode these big 800+ cc adventure bikes. My teammate and I with our sub 300cc dual sports had a tough time even being competitive. Would definitely like to put some miles on a bike like this to see the other end of the off-road spectrum.
Super sandy all around here. That area is about an hour south of where I live. Good to see it handle alright. The XR650 doesn’t handle sand that well as my dad can attest.
i wish i could see a HD 50/75hp 250/ 300 pounds on the same frame need a street / dirt bike now that this is out and a good price point for us younger guys i would be SOLD !!!!
Hey dude, when you fall off your bike: DON'T hold your hand like that - you will break your hand, wrist or elbow and dislocate your shoulder if you do. Even on sand. Watch some videos about how to fall off bikes. Stay safe! :)
Noob question (non rider) - do ADV riders loosen the clutch lever /brake lever a bit so they can give in those situation. I’m a MTB rider and that is a must to avoid replacing levers each bail!
The new sportster s is probably the closest you'll get.. the 500 and 750cc bike they came out with were piles of trash. I rode the 750 and the only thing going for it was it was cheap. They use the 500 for their beginner riders course but as a cruiser they should just use the 883's
Man I sat on a PA at my local HD dealer and its BONKERS good from a sit. Ergonomics are excellent. Everything is where you expect it... But we all know that KTM 1290 Super Adventure R or S is twice the bike for $3000 less.
Respect to Spite for learning more ADV skills and having fun in the desert. For an OFFROAD review by an Offroad expert rider : Brake Magazine channel video see : Does the Harley Davidson Pan Am really compare? - vs BMW 1250 GS vs KTM 1290 Super ADV - Full Review Have fun watching.
As a non American (UK) I do quite like this bike and how it looks. I reckon they could do quite well with adv dad's over here tbh. They'd probably eat up the patriotism.
@@karlcain1068 how many of them are out selling bmw in a market they made and dominated for that last what 30 years. I think the people buying them and testing them are plenty happy, I've seen people dump any adventure bike and scrape it up, if that's a reason a bike is a bad bike your opinions are based on some really quite stupid factors, nobody buys a dirt bike over another because the plastic scratches less
You saw the intro... You know what I'm about to say. SMASH THE SUBSCRIBE BUTTON
Turbo busa!🏁
no spoilers cmon Yam :ruined: :SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
The unsubbed nooblets are the bane of my TH-cam experience.
Hmmm...you said you don't care if people watch..what's with smashies?
3000 miles already and I'm still so damn glad I bought one. Expensive but worth it
I just hit 5000 on mine on Saturday. Love it. Wrecked hard on Saturday to. I haven't touched any of my other bikes since I bought it.
Im sure they already told you, but in sand you need to get your speed up, sit farther back, keep your arms loose and let the front tire find its way
(Literally been on a dirtbike since i could walk)
I wish I knew that before my first excursion in wet, deep sand. I saw advice telling me to sit forward...I ate it a dozen times before my friend told me that's not how to do it in sand or slick conditions. Keeping that speed up while the front warbles took some balls after spilling that much haha
Woooooh that was ALMOST a drop at the brake practice haha! Those were my favorite drills!
Great Observation! Practice Practice Practice!
"THIS THING IS RIDICULOUSLY FAST!"
me- a HD?
also me- hears turbo spool. OH... COME ON 10K MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
No joke, my balls hve been blueing since i first hear they planned it for 1M, at what, 700k? I am so ready for it
Making sure the reviewers understand how the product works first. Super smart, well done HD well done.
Hey noobs! Just wanna let you know that after watching your video for over a year I finally went out and bought a bike! Then stacked it 2 days later. I now have to replace the pillion seat, left rider foot peg, gear selector, left indicator, left mirror and most fairings on the left side. I've also gotten a broken foot and road rash down my left side. Still hasn't put me off thought! Soon as my moon boot is off and I've repaired the damages I'll be right back on the road again! Thanks for all your videos they've helped a lot!
I had the chance to test ride the PanAm in NH this summer. It's pretty awesome - no question. The bigger take-away for me is the importance of getting some good training on how to ride a big bike off-road. They're not 300 lb dirt bikes. Spike was fortunate to be trained by one of the best Co's in the business - Rawhyde. I took a 5-day training course with them earlier this year. Cracked a couple of ribs on day 2 in the sand pit (totally my fault) , but stuck it out. Got to know the medic really well (candyman). Back in the northeast this fall, I'm a way better rider on the trails with my big bike. There's a time and place for a trail bike and a different time and place for a big ADV bike. Kudos to Spite for sharing.
Never been a huge Harley guy (or ADV guy, my brother's Versys-X 300 is the only "adv" I've ridden lmao) but this bike looks fantastic.
Truly impressed, especially considering how Spite doesn't have decades off-road seat time (no offense intended, it just speaks to how easily the bike can be wrangled). The weight appears, at face value, to be the only real issue; but the fact that the massive GSA1250 dominates the class kind of negates that argument, if that can comfortably negotiate trails I can't imagine this won't be able to.
10/10 gonna recommend to my brother as his upgrade bike lmao
Does the fact the GSA dominates the segment negate the weight argument... No, the versys x300 and even the lil 310gs are just as capable off-road as the GSA. Physics don't lie. A lighter average bike will always beat a heavier "more capable" bike off-road imo
Full circle! You WILL own a pan am within 6 most. Spite goes back to harley.
Get your first hour view tickets here
Barely managed to get my ticked only 8 min left 😂
Huh?
Thanks
1 min remains
I been poopin all day and i just ran out of paper...
This looks fun, and I'm happy that HD did something new, also the event itself is a nice idea. Not a fan of the looks of this bike, but I'm excided to see what Harley has to offer in the future.
It does more than look good on a trailer.
I'm impressed. I've always liked Harley's but when I was little, they had serios quality issues. I own 2 now and love them. Would love to ad one of these to the mix!
The Pan American is the best ADV bike out there!
Not even close.
I'd take a KTM over it for sure
@@svendragon8139 I would take a crf250l!
learn slow, go fast. Great bike, would love to test one for a day. Big bikes CAN go off road.
The difference is, when the going gets tough, the lighter bikes become the faster bikes and are more easy to handle.
I learned on the smaller bikes and worked my way up over 35 years untill i owned a BMW HP2. The toughest and fastest offroad bike on the planet for years.
1200cc and only 185kg wet (407 lbs) and that was build in 2005 !!!.
The Pan American did the same as BMW did with the GS bikes after the HP2. They made the GS more heavy and with that, more road oriented (which is ok, coarse there is more asphalt ).
Everything over 440 lbs is more of a fight in the rough offroad parts.
Had the Zakar experience last May with the same crew; an awesome group of committed coaches. I’ve got 3,300 on my PA and find myself riding it more than my Glide.
For a second at the beginning of the video I thought he was referring to the Pan America being ridiculously fast until I heard that in-line four sound of the Turbo Charged BUSA!!!! Can’t wait for one million.
The TLDR seems to be “Spite has never taken an advanced rider course.” Isn’t that contrary to everything you guys have said in noob rider vids? Facts, you guys need to give more love to DDFM.
I like this channel but if you want a serious evaluation of a bike’s pros and cons...you need experienced high level riders.
Good on Spite for putting this out there. It’s not his comfort zone. I don’t care what anyone says, these big bikes are not for the inexperienced. I hope that’s the takeaway for the noob audience.
Now listen....about that TURBO BUSA 🤯
insert joke about HD riders here *
All of us Millennials are about to go through our ADV metamorphosis and I think Harley has done a good thing here.... now hopefully they drop that same engine into a naked bike and keep making good decisions moving forward
Yam I love your use of classical music. I'm not all about it, but the bangers are bangers and I love to hear them when I can. You're one of my favorite content creators.
I wouldn't mind seeing a "Sport Touring" version of the PanAm with proper street tires, I'm really anxious to see what else HD puts this motor in.
If I'm not mistaken they've put it in the Sportster s
Good job and fun taking us along👍 always enjoy your videos dude!
I had a '79 Goldwing at one point...weighed about the same as the Pan America. Have you seen Goldwing Motocross by Dos Honduros You Tube channel? Hysterical seeing guys getting rad on a barge.. Fun to watch but I wouldn't want to die on that hill.
Low center of gravity would be perfect.
@@hvymax Sounds like a Polish last name. Are you Polish?
Grandparents came over from Hungary. Slovak I believe.
I'm glad to see HD finally building some modern engines and motorcycles that can actually handle semi decently.
Still rather have a dual sport
I have done two events with the Rawhyde team, and there is nothing like a great teacher, no matter what bike you are riding.
I’m still waiting Harley. Bring back the Bronx….
Maybe Harley does have something that sparked a idea. I'm getting into motorcycles. Mtc is on my to do list.
Glad to see you getting into ADV bikes, Spite. They're a lot of fun and they actually fit taller riders.
10k till turbo busa!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s go!!!!!!!!!!
Cmon we need that 10k more subs until the turbo busa is revealed everyone needs to hit the button
That said, it is probably perfect for touring in the US due to decent roads, long distances, etc. The HD Road King I rode in the US made a lot of sense when I was there....but not fir jumping that gutter two up...or off-road deep sand at speed...
Hayabusa on knobbies and off road..?
This is the first HD I actually want
Shadetree, Doodle and Lali spotted.
Am I the only one who finds irony in rear abs being the savior on the road and front abs the savior for off road? 🤔
"unconscious incompetence" lol
I did an Adv Rally event near Anza Borrego that was partially sponsored by HD to promote this bike. I'll say this much, it's a nice departure from what HD has been doing. Also, the events were scored and the teams that were the most effective (read: highest scores) rode these big 800+ cc adventure bikes. My teammate and I with our sub 300cc dual sports had a tough time even being competitive. Would definitely like to put some miles on a bike like this to see the other end of the off-road spectrum.
lol the intro monologue made me feel liek this was a news cast or some shit haha
Respect for Harley 💯💯💯💯💯
Super sandy all around here. That area is about an hour south of where I live. Good to see it handle alright. The XR650 doesn’t handle sand that well as my dad can attest.
just 10K more subs and we are a'busa'ing into space!!!!!
Went to the other facility and learned the same stuff on a BMW.
Maybe revisit the Moab trip with these newfound skills.
You can hear the turbo whistle in that intro *giggles
Love the audio previews for the long awaited turbo-busa video.
Drifting is the one crossover skill
bike looks great and im sure it will sell great aswell i prefer the all black model
I'd love to see more!
Will this be the last video before the million? Before the Legend? Before the Turbo Busa?!
10k to go come on buysa lets go
i wish i could see a HD 50/75hp 250/ 300 pounds on the same frame need a street / dirt bike now that this is out and a good price point for us younger guys i would be SOLD !!!!
Yes.
Awesome bike, I've tested one and love it,want one so much and hope to get one next year
Hey, Doodle was in that course too 😄 what are the odds
9:05 "the nod" 😎
Only 10k away from the turbo busa , lesgo
You should take turboBUSA offriad.
Hey dude, when you fall off your bike: DON'T hold your hand like that - you will break your hand, wrist or elbow and dislocate your shoulder if you do. Even on sand.
Watch some videos about how to fall off bikes. Stay safe! :)
Spite this is literally the perfect bike for you... it matches ur character
This episode is replete with "That's what she said" moments
I read your comment right as Spite said "exaggerate that motion"
You know they are watching and back there product if they pay you to ride their bike. Great video fellas keep it up. Turbo busa
I now have new found respect for Spite. Where was the Sweet Potato?
Loving the adv content lately.
I want a smaller displacement version
Noob question (non rider) - do ADV riders loosen the clutch lever /brake lever a bit so they can give in those situation. I’m a MTB rider and that is a must to avoid replacing levers each bail!
Probably not, but us dual sporters and dirt-bikers replace our levers with either shorties, or ones that bend back. Often they do both.
Almost 1 Million 🥺
Almost at one mil, Yam!!!
Other videos show lots of low speed stalling I wonder what the difference is?
Try doing an Endo! I'm too old for that crap.
I really can't wait for a true modern beginner bike by Harley I'll def get one.
The new sportster s is probably the closest you'll get.. the 500 and 750cc bike they came out with were piles of trash. I rode the 750 and the only thing going for it was it was cheap. They use the 500 for their beginner riders course but as a cruiser they should just use the 883's
For the real story, watch Big Rock Moto's review. He doesn't just read the script HD gave everyone.
Can't wait to see the ride if you film it
Man I sat on a PA at my local HD dealer and its BONKERS good from a sit. Ergonomics are excellent. Everything is where you expect it...
But we all know that KTM 1290 Super Adventure R or S is twice the bike for $3000 less.
Agree, as was the BMW HP2 Enduro in 2005 with 407lbs wet. Anything more heavy is a bother offroad. Can be done, but less fun and harder to work.
Im hoping to scoop a KTM 1290 SAS this spring. Just looks like a great, do anything anytime anywhere bike.
Great bike
Spite: "What's counter steering?"
Spite, you need to take MotoJitsu's course. 😂😂😂
990k almost busa time!!!!
You stay on top of the bike.
Spite looks good on there.
Just rollin on your hawg.... right down that ADV life path eh Spite? :P
*Yammie was right. See you on the TAT next year :)*
its only 10.000 subs. Come on guy. i wanna see the TURBO BUUUUSAAAAAAAAAA
Damn that is a big chunky front end on the bike.
I can't wait to see that busa
Mojave, great Viedo Spike! It is pronounced Mohavee
Atta boi Spite.
two weeks and no yamcast? :(
Well done by H-D. Now if they can refine it. I’d never buy a first year bike.
Hopefully they make it better and not just find ways to cut costs
it's way to fat for me i like bikes 250 pounds 75 hp would be the best next best
Respect to Spite for learning more ADV skills and having fun in the desert.
For an OFFROAD review by an Offroad expert rider : Brake Magazine channel video see :
Does the Harley Davidson Pan Am really compare? - vs BMW 1250 GS vs KTM 1290 Super ADV - Full Review
Have fun watching.
As a non American (UK) I do quite like this bike and how it looks. I reckon they could do quite well with adv dad's over here tbh. They'd probably eat up the patriotism.
I’ve always been unconscious of my incompetence.😉
Whats that classic intro music?
Excellent experience… ADV bikes don’t seem to be that boring, right guys?
I heard the side stand mounted on some part of the engine. is it true?
You look like you’re on a huge Honda ruckus
Where are videos of the Pan going balls to the wall riding?
🤣 Spite! You da man!
5:10 is he helping you, or telling you to meet him later
That little spill in sand mangled this $20k “Adventure” bike? This is a sham…😶
I think their sales and reviews from others speak for themselves
@@Ebbeebbeee because people don’t buy crap everyday… 🙄
@@karlcain1068 not 20,000 worth of it especially not on a bike, you don't out sell bmw if your bike is trash
@@Ebbeebbeee ooorrr.. just any of the other dozens of options on 2 wheels…
@@karlcain1068 how many of them are out selling bmw in a market they made and dominated for that last what 30 years. I think the people buying them and testing them are plenty happy, I've seen people dump any adventure bike and scrape it up, if that's a reason a bike is a bad bike your opinions are based on some really quite stupid factors, nobody buys a dirt bike over another because the plastic scratches less
FUCKIN TURBO BUSA
I really don’t get the point of taking a very heavy powerful motorcycle off-road. Most of this video shows terrain where you could drive a minivan.
Spite waddles his bike at slow speeds...this was painful to watch.