Karin thank you for all the time and effort you spent on gathering all the information presented in this video and for your genuine concern for the welfare of Gorillas in captivity. Your channel is unique well done 👏. ❤️🦍
@@eaglesflyproud Yes, I will! Am I missing to read any of your comments there? If so, I apologize. I sometimes do and often YT hides or deletes comments and replies….😅
@@eaglesflyproud oh no…i think your comment sent at 7:20am est is missing. I can’t find it.😨 Sorry about that. Did you leave your comment under the last post about Momoko’s update?
Thank you so much for your time, effort and heart in reviewing the literature and explaining the scientific background of the deviant behaviour/s. I (we) can only hope that the management takes this to their hearts, and from now on, efforts are being made to improve the gorilla's welfare by all available means. They have all to win and nothing to lose!!! Love & Support! 🇸🇪❤️🦍💕
The beautiful Rola deserves to have a life as a couple and as a family. It is very sad to see her alone, this always makes me almost cry. The zoo needs to try very hard to find another mate for her because obviously is not Monta or put her with other female gorillas. I love these animals deeply and I have a lot of respect for them, I would like to change the world for them. I got sentimental Karin. Again Thank you for taking the time to show us the life of these wonderful creatures. Karin, I love your channel. God bless you.🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️🦍
Hello Alina. Thank you for watching the video although it makes you sad. I think Rola can live with other senior female gorillas such as Toto, but Toto is in love with Haoko. I'm wondering if Rola can go back to the Ueno zoo and stay with Momoko or Toto at one of their exhibits. She obviously can't live with Haoko. Thank you Alina for your kind comment.
Just wondering 🙄🤔🤔 . they should have a Senior gorrilla care system . . Where they can be placed with seniors Gorrilas all together ,, male and female 👍 . That would also solve the reproduction amoung Gorrilas of a certain age group . If they procreate amoung themselfs so be it . . Let nature take it's course.iIt would be a sort of experiment also for curious minds .👍 . Humans have senior citizens homes !! Why not Gorrilas . That way they wouldn't be alone and sad to the point of mutalations . Like a place for Gorrilas of a curtain age can be together . That would be something to think about.👍.
@@ZoosForConservation Hi Karin , I've been hearing that assumption about Toto is in love with Hoeko . I've heard it enough times to ask this question . What did I miss ?? All I see is her loving and showing admiration for how Hoeko is expressing his love for Momoko . I think every girl , Gorrilas too should see how their dad loves their mom . Toto is getting a lesson from dad on how her mate when it's time should treat her . I don't think it a crush kind of thing . She is probably concern about Hoeko also . Watching him loosing that weight . Toto and Momoko bonded alot . I wouldn't be surprised if Momoko didn't have a conversation with her ( gorrilla style ) just before she was removed . Telling her to take care of the troop until she ( Momoko) returns . She is very observant of everything that's going on 👍 . She wants to be right there with Hoeko when visiting Momoko . She sits on Momoko favorite rock ,checking the troop out like Momoko used to do . She loves her mom and dad and is doing what the one in charge temporary , should be doi g . That's what I see Karin . 😍🤗🤔 Maybe I missed something that you see. Sorry .🤔😄🤔 Toto loves her dad for loving her mom . Thinking otherwise seems weird to me . That's not going to happen they are related . ,😝😝
@@joycecodrington4829 Hello Joyce. Your idea about a senior gorilla house is quite interesting and reasonable. Toto is not related to Haoko. Are you talking about Komomo? Please let me know if my understanding your comment isn't right.
Hi Karin , what are they trying to do with Rola ?? She is very lonely . You know iam not one for not saying something when it needs to be said . This is heartbreaking . What's the purpose ? It's cruel !! How would they like to wake up everyday in your own world with no one to communicate with . . How long are they intending to keep her in tourmoil . She is alive and it's not fair to have her living like this . She is bueatiful also 😍🤗🌹 . Thanks Karin for another touching and heartbreaking episode .. you did it again . I got teary eyed looking at Rola .
Thank you Joyce for watching the video. I understand how you feel. It is heartbreaking for me too. If I can only release a video of happy Rola, it would be much easier for me. But this is also part of her life, and I strongly felt the need for change. Have you been able to read the subtitles? Please let me know if you find problems.
@@ZoosForConservation no problem now , and yes Karin that would be another one of your masterpieces . I can see it now " The story of Rola ". Seek and ye shall find ,😄😍👁️Our KARIN ✨🌹✨👍👍
Rola is 44 years old . Don't Gorrilas live to.be in their 60 -70s ? She still have a long way to go . Is this the female.gorilla I heard about that they were looking for a younger male to mate her with ? Some kind of an experiment ? . Sure would like to be able to understand what the subtitles are saying🙄🤔🤔🙄
Yes. A gorilla will live up to around 50 or 60 nowadays. What what what?😯 I've never heard of that story of experimenting. You can turn on subtitles by clicking the CC icon at the bottom of a TH-cam video if you are watching vie a notebook. But if you are watching via your iPhone, you will find the CC icon at the top of the video.
@@ZoosForConservation got it 👍 still trying to figured this ph out . Yes I heard it a while ago . Iam never one to repeat something unless it's more information on the subject . A worker of some kind once was tryi g to stop the idea of an experiment that they meaning the zoo was trying to mate an older female gorilla with a much younger male to see if she can still procreate . Been waiting to hear more about how that goes . Until now iam thinking they were talking about Rola . This like I said is only something that was said a while ago . Not sure how true it is . That's why we have you Karin . Our very own special investigator . 👍🤗😄😘😍 . Please find out if there is any truth to this or to another older female gorrilla . Iam guessing it's Rola . There is another part to this story that ian hasitant to repeat .it just too abserd and involved a gorrilla that iam very fond of . I say no more . Because just the tought of it makes me soo mad . Maybe now the story might ring a bell to you .
Hi Karin, thank you for sharing the information you receive.. 2 things stood out to me::: Genki doesn't stop eating, we know about her dental problems from to much sugar. She eats the same grass as Rola. I thought she ate constantly because of the trauma she went through at Ueno. This makes sense to me. 2/ Iriki from Taiwan had a serious plucking problem. Whatever they did seems to have worked. This troop D'jeeco & Iriki eat 💩 alot. Thanks again, you are a caring & honest lady, I think we can all agree on that.💕
Hi Sonja. Thank you for watching the video and for your thoughtful and informative comment! Genki's dental problem could be derived from engaging in R/R for a long period of time when she was young. I wonder what drives Iriki to pluck hair. For Monta at Chiba Zoo, it's certainly a boredom. But Iriki was from a renowned zoo, being raised in a troop, and now she has her own family. If D'jeeco was not used to consume feces before coming to Taipei, what and how the zoo feed them could be something to do with coprophagy. Thank you Sonja for sharing information which I didn't know.
@@ZoosForConservation There is research linking dental problems with heart issues in humans; most of the gorillas I've seen have some degree of rotting or staining, so I wonder how much of their research is making this association considering how many of them have died from heart ailments? So many of the videos posted have been edited out significantly, but I've seen the cophrogagy (?) behavior (ALWAYS disturbing) even when there is ample foliage/grass around; so it's left me thinking what ARE they eating?? I've seen the biscuits still in circulation, rice/grain birthday "cakes", jello "eggs", frozen fruit ice pops--- these aren't part of their natural, wild diets. Typical jello isn't vegetable/herb based, so why feed them this? Are the foliage, fruits, and vegetables pesticide free and at least nutritionally similar to what they would have consumed in the wild? The babies who have to be hand-reared for whatever reason are given formulas instead of gorilla milk; unless the mother has died, they should work with her to at least be able to express/freeze the milk regularly to feed the baby who's been supposedly "rejected". I've watched for lengths of time trying to figure out what the Kyoto troop is being treated with at the computer but still can't identify it. What is the source of Genki's excess sugar consumption? Thanks so much for the shared insights.
@@fj2201 Thank you f j for sharing your thoughts and questions. I will be able to respond to some of your questions. Regarding Momoko's baby (Sumomo), she was fed with Momoko's breast milk during Momoko was anesthetized. But as we can see Momoko's flat breast, it's obvious now formulas are given to Sumomo. Computer games for gorillas at Kyoto city zoo are for their cognitive environmental enrichment. Gorillas in the wild are good at memorizing the routes to spots rich in food. The games Kyoto zoo providing to the gorillas enhance such ability. I've read an article written by Mr Tanaka, who is in charge of the computer study. FYI.
It could be from stress. I hope it's not ulser but I have asked the zoo director via a letter to do her health checkup. Thank you Roxanna for watching the video.😊
So i have been researching the R/R on gorillas for a while as well. There are only two gorillas in Korea and both are very old but both of them R/R almost immedietaly after eating. The zoo has come back to me with the same boring answer you got. But I think it is mainly diet. The gorillas in Korea are fed just bad junk food with high water content and artificial foods such as fruit teas, processed food and such. I don't think they hardly eat any vegetables...I think even fruits are a bad diet for gorillas. I wish zoos will put more efforts to animals if they are restricted to low budget then they should increase the ticket price or do some marketing awareness to increase more traffic to the zoo. Thanks for this wonderful video I am going to pass this to the Seoul national zoo.
Hello bear freedom! I'm so thankful for you to share the story of two gorillas in Korea. They must be Ujiji and Gorina. I'm also glad to know there are people like you who have been researching R/R for gorillas in captivity. I also agree with you. It seems what and how zoos feed the animals really affect R/R. By the way, I just searched the net and found out that Ujiji is related to Momotaro: Momotaro's father Biju is Ujiji's brother. Bitam's and Kibabu's offsprings are everywhere in the world.😆
@@ZoosForConservation wow!!! How did you manage to found that out!! You are amazing and such high respect for you. I must study and work harder hehe. Thanks for the information.
Hi Lynn. I think both and also she does this to prolong the feeding period. It looks like she just finished eating napa cabbages (mostly soft and high water content vegies), and she probably wanted to eat more of them. I only guess though.
@@ZoosForConservation Karin if she doesn't have stress and anxiety now ,, she sure is going to . Don't know the tolorent span for gorillas compare to humans .but that's pushing it a little too far . That's a form of mental tourture . I think Rola is giving the zoo the benefit of the doubt .also being very modest about it . I feel sad for her truly . Don't care how much good food they are feeding her , keep your strength up Rola . Your being a smart cookie . Figured of speech for those that don't understand . 🤔🙄 I know you know what I meant Karin . Until next time and I will be antisapating your next wonderful and heartwarming video and project with much delight . God bless always ❤️😍✨✝️✨👍👍👍🌹
Another gorrilla might not eat ,or want to even walk back and forth . Just hope Rola keep up her strength and a good mental outlook under the circumstances .❤️
Karin thank you for a great piece of reporting. I've never heard of this before, but it makes sense. It makes me think of bulimia and other eating disorders in some humans in response to some stressors. It may be some of the answers to unexplained deaths in some captive gorillas such as Bijou and the nears self starvation with self mutilation in Genki. There is a paper by Yoshida who looked at the policies of zoo's and gorilla husbandry in the 1990s. He concluded that part of the problem in the Japanese system was that these sort of problems were seen as character flaws in the gorillas themselves not the care of or failure to note the sensitivity of these animals. Turns out it was not just the Japan system but other zoo's as well. There was a reevaluation of the policies in gorilla husbandry and changes were made. But as you reported some problems continue. Maybe they should address the psychological stresses in captive gorillas. If it is addressed in humans and their pets, then why not these lovely creatures. Just some thoughts. Thanks again for the info.
Hello Yvonne. Yes. It is unfortunate but true that there is a systematic defect in Japanese zoo associations. There is no organization to monitor and supervise zoos in Japan. JAZA is the one which is supposed to do that job but it seems they aren't so actively doing their job. I think visitors need to be more educated so that they can notice problems in zoos. Great apes are close to us humans. So, the scientifically proved effects of similar disorders in humans can be applied to those animals too. Thank you Yvonne for your thoughtful and informative comment.🫶
@@ZoosForConservation This undercover information between you Karin and Yvonne is very interesting . Tax payers and local residents should find this R/R situation something to address at the next community meeting or at the board of recreation and city officials . . It's time they wake up and smell the coffee in Japan and surrounding cities . . These bueatiful creatures did not ask to be taken from the wild from porchers to be put in another . . I sure wish I was much closer or even have the means to fight on their behalf . Like on the next election of some kind. They are being exploited and everdently are telling us loud and clear about how they are being treated . Physically and mentally . Thanks for the heads up information !!! I think everyone should know . These wonderful animals need our voices to speak for them .✨❤️✨
@@joycecodrington4829 Hi Joyce. Unfortunately, I have no idea on local activists, and I am also not so familiar with how JAZA works. But I would like to learn about this organization for the sake of our animals.😉 Thank you for your concern.🙏
Yes Karin you are right. Their well-being does not depend on the numbers of personell, but on the numbers of gorilla's in their group. Gorilla's are social animals. Rola and Monta live alone! This is cruel and against animal rights! Japanese zoo's made many mistakes in the past. The zoo has a huge responsability because of those mistakes. If you (Chiba zoo) love Rola and Monta and care about their well-being, than find other gorila's or a place where they can live together with individuals of their own species. I'm very fearfull of Gentaro's welfare when he arives at this zoo (with all it's rock, concrete, steal bars and a little bit of green grass to walk on) I believe that part of the problem is that gorila's cannot make their own choices like in the wild they choose the group they want to join and the silverback they want to mate with. Living in captivity means choices are made for them (with the risk, that these may be bad choices)
Hello Jetje. Thank you for watching the video. I would be happy to take a video of Gentaro if he moves to Chiba, but as you fear, I don't think this zoo is capable of accommodating a gorilla troop. The zoo says the plan to renovate for great apes will be enhanced in the future, but they have been saying it for too long and no renovation has started. Thank you for your thoughtful comment.😊
Karin thank you for all the time and effort you spent on gathering all the information presented in this video and for your genuine concern for the welfare of Gorillas in captivity. Your channel is unique well done 👏. ❤️🦍
Thank you EAGLES FLY PROUD for watching the video, and I truly appreciate your warm comment.🙏🦍❤
@@ZoosForConservation your welcome. Please check your Community page when you have some free time. Thank you ❤️🦍
@@eaglesflyproud Yes, I will! Am I missing to read any of your comments there? If so, I apologize. I sometimes do and often YT hides or deletes comments and replies….😅
@@ZoosForConservation I left it at 7:20 AM EST this morning.
@@eaglesflyproud oh no…i think your comment sent at 7:20am est is missing. I can’t find it.😨 Sorry about that. Did you leave your comment under the last post about Momoko’s update?
I pray for the gorillas that something better comes along for them and soon. ❤❤
Thank you, Denise!
最近ゴリラが好きになりました。ゴリラの歴史というか今に至るまでの経緯等、まだまだわからないことばかりでしたので、こちらの動画は勉強になりました。ありがとうございます！
happy smileさん、コメントありがとうございます。ゴリラの魅力に気づいたらもう後戻りはできません〜😆ローラの動画を見てくださりありがとうございました⭐️
Thank you so much for your time, effort and heart in reviewing the literature and explaining the scientific background of the deviant behaviour/s.
I (we) can only hope that the management takes this to their hearts, and from now on, efforts are being made to improve the gorilla's welfare by all available means.
They have all to win and nothing to lose!!!
Love & Support! 🇸🇪❤️🦍💕
Thank you for watching the video and for your time to leave me a thoughtful comment. I really hope the management takes this seriously.🙏
ローラちゃんの出生がラクテンチで、自分の在住地が近くで親近感が有るので動画投稿でローラちゃんの様子を観ています。吐き戻し行動は、小さい頃の人工飼育だった事も関係しているのでしょうかね。人間でも吐く事は、体に負担が掛かるので何か改善策を早急にして頂きたいものですね。小動物との生活は、ローラちゃんが喜びそうな気がしますね。
ひまわりさん、こんにちは。人工哺育だった影響は多少なりともあるかもしれません。実際に人工哺育の個体のほうが、そうでない個体よりも異常行動をする確率が高いと読んだことがあります。でも他にも人工哺育で育ったゴリラたちで園の努力で異常行動がない子たちもいるので、やはり今の環境が直接的な原因だと思います。そうですよね。人間が常習的にはいてたら、病院に通いますものね。ほんとに早急に改善策を編み出してほしいと思います。私もローラは母性本能があるので小動物とうまくいききがしています。コメントありがとうございました⭐
Thank you Karin.
Thank you Bonnie for watching!
The beautiful Rola deserves to have a life as a couple and as a family. It is very sad to see her alone, this always makes me almost cry. The zoo needs to try very hard to find another mate for her because obviously is not Monta or put her with other female gorillas. I love these animals deeply and I have a lot of respect for them, I would like to change the world for them. I got sentimental Karin. Again Thank you for taking the time to show us the life of these wonderful creatures. Karin, I love your channel. God bless you.🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️🦍
Hello Alina. Thank you for watching the video although it makes you sad. I think Rola can live with other senior female gorillas such as Toto, but Toto is in love with Haoko. I'm wondering if Rola can go back to the Ueno zoo and stay with Momoko or Toto at one of their exhibits. She obviously can't live with Haoko. Thank you Alina for your kind comment.
Just wondering 🙄🤔🤔 . they should have a Senior gorrilla care system . . Where they can be placed with seniors Gorrilas all together ,, male and female 👍 . That would also solve the reproduction amoung Gorrilas of a certain age group . If they procreate amoung themselfs so be it . . Let nature take it's course.iIt would be a sort of experiment also for curious minds .👍 . Humans have senior citizens homes !! Why not Gorrilas . That way they wouldn't be alone and sad to the point of mutalations . Like a place for Gorrilas of a curtain age can be together . That would be something to think about.👍.
@@ZoosForConservation Hi Karin , I've been hearing that assumption about Toto is in love with Hoeko . I've heard it enough times to ask this question . What did I miss ?? All I see is her loving and showing admiration for how Hoeko is expressing his love for Momoko . I think every girl , Gorrilas too should see how their dad loves their mom . Toto is getting a lesson from dad on how her mate when it's time should treat her . I don't think it a crush kind of thing . She is probably concern about Hoeko also . Watching him loosing that weight . Toto and Momoko bonded alot . I wouldn't be surprised if Momoko didn't have a conversation with her ( gorrilla style ) just before she was removed . Telling her to take care of the troop until she ( Momoko) returns . She is very observant of everything that's going on 👍 . She wants to be right there with Hoeko when visiting Momoko . She sits on Momoko favorite rock ,checking the troop out like Momoko used to do . She loves her mom and dad and is doing what the one in charge temporary , should be doi g . That's what I see Karin . 😍🤗🤔 Maybe I missed something that you see. Sorry .🤔😄🤔 Toto loves her dad for loving her mom . Thinking otherwise seems weird to me . That's not going to happen they are related . ,😝😝
Also too old to be fighting each other . Lol . ,❤️ In a senior home that is . 🤣😄😍
@@joycecodrington4829 Hello Joyce. Your idea about a senior gorilla house is quite interesting and reasonable. Toto is not related to Haoko. Are you talking about Komomo? Please let me know if my understanding your comment isn't right.
ローラの情報収集、動画共有ありがとうございます。
大変な労力だったと思います。
動画を拝見しコメントしたいけれど、どうコメントすれば良いか…わからなくて😓
ローラもモンタも、今より充実したゴリラ生活を過ごしてほしいですね…。
どうコメントしたいか分からない気持ちよく分かります！内容が内容だけに。そんな中、あたたかいコメント嬉しいです。2人の生活の質の向上をほんとに願ってます。ご視聴ありがとうございました😊
Hi Karin , what are they trying to do with Rola ?? She is very lonely . You know iam not one for not saying something when it needs to be said . This is heartbreaking . What's the purpose ? It's cruel !! How would they like to wake up everyday in your own world with no one to communicate with . . How long are they intending to keep her in tourmoil . She is alive and it's not fair to have her living like this . She is bueatiful also 😍🤗🌹 . Thanks Karin for another touching and heartbreaking episode .. you did it again . I got teary eyed looking at Rola .
Thank you Joyce for watching the video. I understand how you feel. It is heartbreaking for me too. If I can only release a video of happy Rola, it would be much easier for me. But this is also part of her life, and I strongly felt the need for change. Have you been able to read the subtitles? Please let me know if you find problems.
@@ZoosForConservation no problem now , and yes Karin that would be another one of your masterpieces . I can see it now " The story of Rola ". Seek and ye shall find ,😄😍👁️Our KARIN ✨🌹✨👍👍
Rola is 44 years old . Don't Gorrilas live to.be in their 60 -70s ? She still have a long way to go . Is this the female.gorilla I heard about that they were looking for a younger male to mate her with ? Some kind of an experiment ? . Sure would like to be able to understand what the subtitles are saying🙄🤔🤔🙄
Yes. A gorilla will live up to around 50 or 60 nowadays. What what what?😯 I've never heard of that story of experimenting. You can turn on subtitles by clicking the CC icon at the bottom of a TH-cam video if you are watching vie a notebook. But if you are watching via your iPhone, you will find the CC icon at the top of the video.
@@ZoosForConservation got it 👍 still trying to figured this ph out . Yes I heard it a while ago . Iam never one to repeat something unless it's more information on the subject . A worker of some kind once was tryi g to stop the idea of an experiment that they meaning the zoo was trying to mate an older female gorilla with a much younger male to see if she can still procreate . Been waiting to hear more about how that goes . Until now iam thinking they were talking about Rola . This like I said is only something that was said a while ago . Not sure how true it is . That's why we have you Karin . Our very own special investigator . 👍🤗😄😘😍 . Please find out if there is any truth to this or to another older female gorrilla . Iam guessing it's Rola . There is another part to this story that ian hasitant to repeat .it just too abserd and involved a gorrilla that iam very fond of . I say no more . Because just the tought of it makes me soo mad . Maybe now the story might ring a bell to you .
I missed this video. First I read the title then the comments. However I faved it but couldn't watch it.😕
i totally understand Camelia. It's okay not to watch. I thank you for leaving me a comment. You are very kind.😊
Hi Karin, thank you for sharing the information you receive.. 2 things stood out to me::: Genki doesn't stop eating, we know about her dental problems from to much sugar. She eats the same grass as Rola. I thought she ate constantly because of the trauma she went through at Ueno. This makes sense to me.
2/ Iriki from Taiwan had a serious plucking problem.
Whatever they did seems to have worked. This troop D'jeeco & Iriki eat 💩 alot.
Thanks again, you are a caring & honest lady, I think we can all agree on that.💕
Hi Sonja. Thank you for watching the video and for your thoughtful and informative comment!
Genki's dental problem could be derived from engaging in R/R for a long period of time when she was young. I wonder what drives Iriki to pluck hair. For Monta at Chiba Zoo, it's certainly a boredom. But Iriki was from a renowned zoo, being raised in a troop, and now she has her own family. If D'jeeco was not used to consume feces before coming to Taipei, what and how the zoo feed them could be something to do with coprophagy. Thank you Sonja for sharing information which I didn't know.
@@ZoosForConservation There is research linking dental problems with heart issues in humans; most of the gorillas I've seen have some degree of rotting or staining, so I wonder how much of their research is making this association considering how many of them have died from heart ailments? So many of the videos posted have been edited out significantly, but I've seen the cophrogagy (?) behavior (ALWAYS disturbing) even when there is ample foliage/grass around; so it's left me thinking what ARE they eating?? I've seen the biscuits still in circulation, rice/grain birthday "cakes", jello "eggs", frozen fruit ice pops--- these aren't part of their natural, wild diets. Typical jello isn't vegetable/herb based, so why feed them this? Are the foliage, fruits, and vegetables pesticide free and at least nutritionally similar to what they would have consumed in the wild? The babies who have to be hand-reared for whatever reason are given formulas instead of gorilla milk; unless the mother has died, they should work with her to at least be able to express/freeze the milk regularly to feed the baby who's been supposedly "rejected". I've watched for lengths of time trying to figure out what the Kyoto troop is being treated with at the computer but still can't identify it. What is the source of Genki's excess sugar consumption? Thanks so much for the shared insights.
@@fj2201 Thank you f j for sharing your thoughts and questions. I will be able to respond to some of your questions. Regarding Momoko's baby (Sumomo), she was fed with Momoko's breast milk during Momoko was anesthetized. But as we can see Momoko's flat breast, it's obvious now formulas are given to Sumomo. Computer games for gorillas at Kyoto city zoo are for their cognitive environmental enrichment. Gorillas in the wild are good at memorizing the routes to spots rich in food. The games Kyoto zoo providing to the gorillas enhance such ability. I've read an article written by Mr Tanaka, who is in charge of the computer study. FYI.
so many zoo in japan . beautiful video
Thank you Luciana for watching! Yes. There are quite many zoos in Japan.😉
Could it come from stress or an ulser..
It could be from stress. I hope it's not ulser but I have asked the zoo director via a letter to do her health checkup. Thank you Roxanna for watching the video.😊
Why not a kitten for companionship?
A kitten will be a great idea too. The zoo is now planning to bring a new gorilla to live with her. Thank you for watching.😊
Or like us humans which would be terrible reflux! Thanks Karin✌️💜🦍
It's true. Thank you Lori for watching the video.😊
So i have been researching the R/R on gorillas for a while as well. There are only two gorillas in Korea and both are very old but both of them R/R almost immedietaly after eating. The zoo has come back to me with the same boring answer you got. But I think it is mainly diet. The gorillas in Korea are fed just bad junk food with high water content and artificial foods such as fruit teas, processed food and such. I don't think they hardly eat any vegetables...I think even fruits are a bad diet for gorillas. I wish zoos will put more efforts to animals if they are restricted to low budget then they should increase the ticket price or do some marketing awareness to increase more traffic to the zoo. Thanks for this wonderful video I am going to pass this to the Seoul national zoo.
Hello bear freedom! I'm so thankful for you to share the story of two gorillas in Korea. They must be Ujiji and Gorina. I'm also glad to know there are people like you who have been researching R/R for gorillas in captivity. I also agree with you. It seems what and how zoos feed the animals really affect R/R. By the way, I just searched the net and found out that Ujiji is related to Momotaro: Momotaro's father Biju is Ujiji's brother. Bitam's and Kibabu's offsprings are everywhere in the world.😆
@@ZoosForConservation wow!!! How did you manage to found that out!! You are amazing and such high respect for you. I must study and work harder hehe. Thanks for the information.
@@ZoosForConservation where is Laura that was there????
It seems like she is in jail for doing what . Can't read the incriptions Karin . I like it when it seems like she is praying ✨✝️✨
Hi Joyce. Do you mean you can't turn your closed caption on for translation?
@@ZoosForConservation lol that would be funny . Sure I can 👍 😄 . I will start using it more often thanks .lol🤣😃
Why can't Rola and Monta be together sometimes to help eliminate loneliness?
Thank you Jeannie for watching Rola's video. I hope the zoo will try again to see if Rola can cope with Monta.
こんにちは、色々調べて頂きありがとうございます。
ローラさん吐き戻しがあったのは知りませんでした。ミミズと遊ぶ姿を見て寂しそうと思いました。
ゲンキさんの前例があり改善されているなら吐き戻しを軽く見ないで京都市動物園と連携して欲しいです。
台湾やアメリカのゴリラは子鹿やプレリードックと暮らしています。ローラさんにも小動物を与えて欲しいです。
ほんとにそうで、京都と同じ手法でうまくいかないかもしれないですが、京都がゲンキと向き合ったように、千葉にもローラと向き合ってほしいと切に願います。
ミミズは、ローラにとって精神維持させる最後の砦みたいに私は感じています。大人しいゴリラとの共同生活が一番いいですが、できなければせめて小動物と共生してあげてほしいなと思いますよね。はるこさん、ご視聴・コメントありがとうございました⭐
群れで暮らすゴリラ、やはり一人は退屈で寂しそう。
ゲンキが改善できたのならローラにも試してほしいです。
そう思います。成功例があるので、園には京都の論文を読んで試してほしいと思います。いくらゴリラが苦手と言えども、やはり一人は悪影響が出てきてると思います。コメントありがとうございました😊
Is it from stress and anxiety?
Hi Lynn. I think both and also she does this to prolong the feeding period. It looks like she just finished eating napa cabbages (mostly soft and high water content vegies), and she probably wanted to eat more of them. I only guess though.
@@ZoosForConservation Karin if she doesn't have stress and anxiety now ,, she sure is going to . Don't know the tolorent span for gorillas compare to humans .but that's pushing it a little too far . That's a form of mental tourture . I think Rola is giving the zoo the benefit of the doubt .also being very modest about it . I feel sad for her truly . Don't care how much good food they are feeding her , keep your strength up Rola . Your being a smart cookie . Figured of speech for those that don't understand . 🤔🙄 I know you know what I meant Karin . Until next time and I will be antisapating your next wonderful and heartwarming video and project with much delight . God bless always ❤️😍✨✝️✨👍👍👍🌹
Another gorrilla might not eat ,or want to even walk back and forth . Just hope Rola keep up her strength and a good mental outlook under the circumstances .❤️
Will they ever have partners or friends?????
Thank you Debbie for asking. I have been asking the same question to the zoo. They haven't answered my question yet.
Karin thank you for a great piece of reporting. I've never heard of this before, but it makes sense. It makes me think of bulimia and other eating disorders in some humans in response to some stressors. It may be some of the answers to unexplained deaths in some captive gorillas such as Bijou and the nears self starvation with self mutilation in Genki. There is a paper by Yoshida who looked at the policies of zoo's and gorilla husbandry in the 1990s. He concluded that part of the problem in the Japanese system was that these sort of problems were seen as character flaws in the gorillas themselves not the care of or failure to note the sensitivity of these animals. Turns out it was not just the Japan system but other zoo's as well. There was a reevaluation of the policies in gorilla husbandry and changes were made. But as you reported some problems continue. Maybe they should address the psychological stresses in captive gorillas. If it is addressed in humans and their pets, then why not these lovely creatures. Just some thoughts. Thanks again for the info.
Hello Yvonne. Yes. It is unfortunate but true that there is a systematic defect in Japanese zoo associations. There is no organization to monitor and supervise zoos in Japan. JAZA is the one which is supposed to do that job but it seems they aren't so actively doing their job. I think visitors need to be more educated so that they can notice problems in zoos. Great apes are close to us humans. So, the scientifically proved effects of similar disorders in humans can be applied to those animals too. Thank you Yvonne for your thoughtful and informative comment.🫶
@@ZoosForConservation This undercover information between you Karin and Yvonne is very interesting . Tax payers and local residents should find this R/R situation something to address at the next community meeting or at the board of recreation and city officials . . It's time they wake up and smell the coffee in Japan and surrounding cities . . These bueatiful creatures did not ask to be taken from the wild from porchers to be put in another . . I sure wish I was much closer or even have the means to fight on their behalf . Like on the next election of some kind. They are being exploited and everdently are telling us loud and clear about how they are being treated . Physically and mentally . Thanks for the heads up information !!! I think everyone should know . These wonderful animals need our voices to speak for them .✨❤️✨
Are there any Animal Activist or Animal rights organization there in Japañ or neighboring, cities that can address the JAZA situation ??
@@joycecodrington4829 Hi Joyce. Unfortunately, I have no idea on local activists, and I am also not so familiar with how JAZA works. But I would like to learn about this organization for the sake of our animals.😉 Thank you for your concern.🙏
Yes Karin you are right. Their well-being does not depend on the numbers of personell, but on the numbers of gorilla's in their group. Gorilla's are social animals. Rola and Monta live alone! This is cruel and against animal rights! Japanese zoo's made many mistakes in the past. The zoo has a huge responsability because of those mistakes. If you (Chiba zoo) love Rola and Monta and care about their well-being, than find other gorila's or a place where they can live together with individuals of their own species.
I'm very fearfull of Gentaro's welfare when he arives at this zoo (with all it's rock, concrete, steal bars and a little bit of green grass to walk on)
I believe that part of the problem is that gorila's cannot make their own choices like in the wild they choose the group they want to join and the silverback they want to mate with. Living in captivity means choices are made for them (with the risk, that these may be bad choices)
Hello Jetje. Thank you for watching the video. I would be happy to take a video of Gentaro if he moves to Chiba, but as you fear, I don't think this zoo is capable of accommodating a gorilla troop. The zoo says the plan to renovate for great apes will be enhanced in the future, but they have been saying it for too long and no renovation has started. Thank you for your thoughtful comment.😊
Tolong rola harus ada teman yg cocok biar tdk stress
Fajar, terima kasih. Thank you for watching and for caring about Rola.
It's like she is saying ." Please leave me alone i "; in the beginning ,😝❤️
That's true.😅She may be annoyed by me stalking her.😝
@@ZoosForConservation hahahaha oh that's you ? Lol A girl got to do what a girl got to do ok 😃😄🌹