Fat Shaming Needs To Stop

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    A video response to the saga between Bill Maher, James Corden and Good Morning Britain.
    Why fat shaming has paradoxical effects on food intake, motivation to exercise and psychological health.
    References:
    - Childhood Obesity: Update on Predisposing Factors and Prevention Strategies
    - Factors predisposing to obesity: a review of the literature
    - The impact of weight stigma on caloric consumption
    - The ironic effects of weight stigma
    - Weight Bias and Weight Loss Treatment Outcomes in Treatment-Seeking Adults
    - Effects of weight stigma on exercise motivation and behavior: a preliminary investigation among college-aged females
    - Unhealthy weight control behaviors and substance use among adolescent girls: The harms of weight stigma
    - Implicit and explicit anti-fat bias among a large sample of medical doctors by BMI, race/ethnicity and gender.
    - Primary care physicians' attitudes about obesity and its treatment
    - Barriers to routine gynecological cancer screening for White and African-American obese women

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  • @karynaugustinus4540
    @karynaugustinus4540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As a formerly morbidly obese person, my feelings about this topic are quite complex but I know for sure that fat shaming does not work. Thanks for your feisty yet still nuanced response to these boors.

  • @goodgrief888
    @goodgrief888 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If fat shaming motivated people to lose weight then I’d be the most in shape person alive. Instead being fat shamed by my older brother and my peers kept me inside and out of swimwear and workout clothes, which kept me from being active. I had the misfortune of having my obnoxious and rude older brother move back home at the exact moment that my changing pubescent body went from rail thin/athletic to curvy. As a result I went right past curvy into chunky, and felt so ashamed of my changing body that I just never left the house in anything but baggy clothes after that. He would pick on me, say horrible things about how “gross” and hideous I was, and made it very clear that I was atrocious and disgusting and it would be kinder to others to never be seen in a bathing suit. He said all of this while I was trying to work out by swimming in our parents pool. So yeah, I can attest firsthand that fat shaming can make people fatter

  • @TheHestya
    @TheHestya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you!
    I will be the first to say how unhealthy obesity is, how difficult it makes people's lives, how people should do their best to be healthy. I'm obese. I would know. But I am so sick of people pretending their bullying is based on concern for health. Fat jokes, calling people names, all that "fun" stuff has nothing to do with the discussion on the obesity crisis, what to do, what not to do, how to help the people as a whole and individuals. In fact, it directly harms the goal of people being healthier in many ways (not even just one).

  • @RhiannaBarr
    @RhiannaBarr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not only are you intelligent but kind as well. Thank you

  • @camillanyrup2549
    @camillanyrup2549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amen, i wish more people knew about this. You are right that everyone who has done their research know that it has the opposite effect.
    The worst part is that the most people who are saying something like this haven't had any crises or trauma in their life, they have a good job, making money and properly never been overweight, so they cant relate, they don't know that a struggle it is or how hard it can be to lose weight both physical and mental. I could talk about this for hours mby weeks, but the fact is there is so many factors playing a role in weight loss, so if you haven't studied it you wouldn't even believe.

  • @regozs
    @regozs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good on you for having a nuanced position. Seems like many people can not separate their feelings from their beliefs and reduce the subject to only one aspect. As I have come to learn, it takes intelligence to discuss and tackle complexed social issues.

  • @SkepticGamer
    @SkepticGamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shaming does not work. I just reminded 2 of my friend(s) what would happen now and in the future if they keep going at this rate. While they still lived a few kilometers away from me, they both managed to lose quite a few kilos. Sadly, they moved roughly 20km away from me and I stopped seeing them as often. Now both of them are doing considerably worse than when they were still hanging out with me on a weekly basis. They just needed someone to consistently remind them what they should and could do to make progress.
    It's regrettable that I can't do anything more for them but at least I learned how to convince somebody to act on that desire to lose fat.

    • @diex1m784
      @diex1m784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your basically saying fat shaming is ok

  • @SnakeC666
    @SnakeC666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent explaining!

  • @abijahalston
    @abijahalston 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🤣😂 You had me at 🗣Challenge fkning accepted ❗🤣👍🏾🤣 Yes stop fat shaming✊🏾😎

  • @abijahalston
    @abijahalston 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    But on a more serious note Im glad u did this and YES DEMOGRAPHICS play a major part in obesity...I live in East NY Brooklyn and youd be surprised how hard it is to find gluten free products, diet soda, clean sweetners like monkfruit, or ORGANIC fruits and Veggies and GRASS FED/BEEF or just simple chicken without hormones and antibiotics 😫☹ when I do find them they are ridiculously over priced...its no wonder people in my community are obese and diabetic 😒☹😕

    • @peter0702
      @peter0702 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait you drink coke and still want to be healthy?? Isn't there a thing call water??

    • @spacepope-1
      @spacepope-1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peter0702 who knew that chicken with antibiotics made people fat... Well I guess if you bread it, deep fry it, and smother it in ranch, and eat all of it in one sitting it will

  • @sinnoccence
    @sinnoccence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Of course fat shaming doesn’t work. I do believe we treat many concerning topics with the kids gloves on, but that doesn’t mean you go out and bash people. Honest, frank discussion is needed to educate the people. Making people feel bad about themselves is just going to leave them turning for comfort, which will be food in a lot of instances. Weight loss is simple, getting people to lose weight is not so simple.

    • @TheDilemma76
      @TheDilemma76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don’t need to educate us. We know.

    • @TheDilemma76
      @TheDilemma76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DK-jk8xz I did leave a general message as well. I wanted to make sure you saw it so you could stop fat shaming your loved ones.

    • @pnut3844able
      @pnut3844able ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDilemma76 exactly. I have a high metabolism and am skinny af. Trust me, the grass isn't always greener. That said, I'd NEVER get in someone else's business to try and "educate" them. That's one of the biggest dick moves out there.

  • @KQuinn672
    @KQuinn672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It all boils down to this! Those who fat shame will be judged by God one day how they treated others!

    • @pnut3844able
      @pnut3844able ปีที่แล้ว

      Except your god isn't real and any adult who still has an imaginary friend needs help.

    • @KQuinn672
      @KQuinn672 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pnut3844able you will find out He is real one day! Wish you well!

    • @pnut3844able
      @pnut3844able ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KQuinn672 actually I won't find out, and neither will you. When we die we'll simply cease to exist.

  • @ResistanceQuest
    @ResistanceQuest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This type of attitude will continue to Prevail in the media because being a hate-filled, disingenuous, dispassionate, basically disgusting human being is apparently what most people want to see on TV (and by that, of course I'm referring to these commentators)

  • @jkrakan8681
    @jkrakan8681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well I have been in both sides but the only I realize when I became fat is that it's all depends on me and only me! I don't have enough money to buy every day healthy food or the time to go to the gum since I m a father with a full time job! Still I start making everything into exercise at home! Eat less crap and after a month I finally saw results! I was 60 kilos I mange to go to 110 in a year after I lost my father and quit smoking!! But still I believe everything depends on ourselves! No excuses! Get up and do something! That's my message! God bless your family's and lives

  • @liha810
    @liha810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think a "good dose of humility" would be for every person to be fat at least once in their life.

  • @incognitospaghet1452
    @incognitospaghet1452 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally its very easy, if you tell a plus sized person they are worthless or any words that might attribute to that phrase, they will not put in effort because society told them they aren’t worth the effort. So of course they will feel that way about their own bodies

    • @UTTPwillFAIL
      @UTTPwillFAIL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you call them useless but if you fat shame them like as dark humour more like or if they can’t physically do something cause of their own causes, and some people call me fat when obviously they are extremely big so they can change if they aren’t lazy cause you see some people who used to be but aren’t anymore

  • @lindygirl3572
    @lindygirl3572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These people are despicable!! Who do they think they are?!! Sitting like they are all high and mighty, judging people. In my world, kindness matters, with that being said, some of these people better watch out if "ugly" shaming is ever a thing 😬😁

  • @alphabanjaxedbanshee7034
    @alphabanjaxedbanshee7034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Girls choosing not to go out with guys based on their size is fat shaming. Not everybody is a sex obsessed wrecking ball of personality defective proportions. If the opposite sex chooses not to go out with someone who comes across handsomely harmless yet is put off by their body build, it's kind of pathetic.

    • @ravenscarlettanis13
      @ravenscarlettanis13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my case, size doesn’t matter to me. I’m looking more for someone to share a mutual understanding with.

  • @ocaraevil
    @ocaraevil 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait fat shaming doesn't work but bullyng(make jokes, and be sarcastic about that especific behavior(smoke, drinking , faping)) works?
    i think is like diets is individual. for people who wants to prove they are better or people who takes other people opinion above their own. (fat shaming is a way)
    but for the second case if they find one of these groups that promote obesity(the mukbang ones) they fell confortable and this group opinion become their own(its easy to be fat and be welcomed).

  • @dustencross357
    @dustencross357 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you don't feel shameful about what you're doing then you cannot be shamed for it!

  • @abhireddy2552
    @abhireddy2552 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will say obesity is unhealthy and I don't believe in glamorizing obesity to make people feel good. The intended purpose of body positivity is to fight against unrealistic body standards by modeling agencies and magazines, which I absolutely agree with.
    With this said, fat-shaming is a terrible idea, because it doesn't help them. If anything, they are more likely to become defensive and defiant because in their minds, by exercising and eating right, they are giving power to people fat-shaming them.

    • @mrandrew82
      @mrandrew82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are aware that you're twice as likely to die from being underweight? 😒

    • @abhireddy2552
      @abhireddy2552 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrandrew82 of course, I don’t agree with being underweight either and think it probably might be more dangerous than being overweight, but society doesn’t shame people who are underweight.
      I don’t think being underweight or overweight should be normalized

  • @azulsimmons1040
    @azulsimmons1040 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think of the healthy at every size movement? I am not interested in fat shaming either. Societal pressure to maintain a behavior helps and has worked in the past and currently. Maintaining pressure to maintain a healthy weight is important for reducing medical costs and improving human health. I don't consider calling people names and such to be effective. That is bullying and that is cruel. But this seeming attempt to normalize obesity where a doctor telling a patient to lose weight is considered fat shaming is not wise at all. As a person that reached 300 lbs. and had high blood pressure, the doctor telling me to lose weight was good medical advice. The doctor can't force you to diet, but he can continue to tell you to lose weight. I dropped 70 lbs. and my blood pressure dropped 60 points dropping the weight, eating better, and exercising. If a doctor giving medical advice to lose weight backed up by medical evidence is considered fat shaming, that doesn't seem wise for society. I'm seeing backlash for the pro-fat shaming people. But these statements were made to counter the movement that is telling doctors they are fat shaming for telling people to maintain a healthy weight and weighing them at the doctor's office because the movement doesn't want to acknowledge all the evidence that obesity is extremely unhealthy.

    • @TheHestya
      @TheHestya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The reason we have an issue with doctors that call us fat is not them telling us that (which they should be intelligent enough to understand that we are aware of). It's the fact every health issue we have gets blamed on weight. My aunt has osteoarthritis and had cartilage abnormally growing in a shape of "horns" out of her heel bones so she was basically walking on pointy bones for YEARS. The doctors did not do x-rays, did not check anything. Just told her to lose weight as she struggled to walk and even stand. The issue kept getting worse, she kept being unable to do anything, hence kept gaining weight, hence they kept judging her for it. Not even just 1 GP, a whole bunch of them. This is the experience of almost every fat and obese person on the planet. Yes, some medical issues ARE a result of high weight, and yes, losing it can solve them. But the vast majority have nothing to do with it and yet we've all experienced medical professionals blaming every pain, problem and illness on weight.
      Any individual that says obesity is good is unstable. But any individual that says fat and obese people should feel ashamed is cruel and there's simply no way around that.

    • @azulsimmons1040
      @azulsimmons1040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheHestya That sounds like a lazy doctor. I've dealt with lazy doctors and it is very annoying and unhelpful. I agree every health problem isn't tied to weight. But at the same time doctors are there to tell you how to maintain your health. If they can't discuss weight or weigh a person, how can they help that person get healthy? There are some in the movement trying to silence medical professionals to the problems of obesity that are documented and numerous. A doctor is the one person who should be able to talk to a person about their weight as a medical issue or he can't do his job right.

  • @sympathy4thedevil88
    @sympathy4thedevil88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how the statistically insignificant metabolic disorders are the first thing touted as the reason for obese people being obese rather than looking at the correlation of the non stop shoveling of food into their fat gobs being a more likely culprit.

  • @111Mikeman111
    @111Mikeman111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a comedy show damn

  • @askme5805
    @askme5805 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heath and social insurance for fat persons should stop

    • @warnemunde
      @warnemunde 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      idiot.

  • @mattrickswayze2917
    @mattrickswayze2917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fatshaming rules!

    • @BenCarpenter
      @BenCarpenter  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      When all the science points in the direction of it not being helpful, if you still think it “rules”, is it just because you like having a free pass to be rude to people?

    • @mattrickswayze2917
      @mattrickswayze2917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BenCarpenter fatshaming rules!

  • @haydenTenno-
    @haydenTenno- ปีที่แล้ว

    False. I fat shame my friends along with a few jokes and eventually pushed them to go to the gym with me and they gave in. They’ve changed so much it’s insane. They’ve bulked up so much as well it scares me sometimes

  • @TheImproponibile
    @TheImproponibile 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also gloryfing fat is to stop.