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Elder Scrolls Lore: Ch.21 - Tribunal - Battle of Red Mountain
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Sotha Sil. Almalexia. Vivec. Powerful, immortal deities born not of celestial providence, but of flesh and blood and pain. Much has been written of the Tribunal, and how three mere mortals dared reach out and grasp the power of gods with an act so brazen they transformed the world of Tamriel forevermore.
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"Azura's rage would be boundless..." she turns everyone grey.
lol
plot twist: she turns everyone gay
They didn't just become grey lol
sebastian dunleavy yeah they got red eyes too lol
She also was probably behind the reincarnation of Nerevar (which she promised), then led that reincarnation (The Neravarine) through the trials necessary to ultimately kill those who betrayed her. So ... yeah. More than grey skin.
No Dwemer was ever seen or heard from again.
...except the obese half-spider Dwemer in Divayth Fyr's basement.
caleb zitting Right? And that fat shit can't even give you a lick of information about his people. He's just a useless piece of half-crazy shit.
caleb zitting he was not on nirn when they were all scooped up.
Bennett Langley
According to? I'm genuinely curious, I don't remember him saying anything about this in his dialogue (Happen to be replaying Morrowind right now), just that he's not sure where the rest of 'his kind' went. Are you just speculating?
He was in oblivion. Pay attention to his dialogue, or google it >.>
You say pay attention to his dialogue like he actually speaks. It's all reading- a thousand pardons if I didn't click every box of shit he had to say. Thanks for the douchebag-esque answer though!
Elder Scrolls: Dwemer, long gone race, left behind machines and 1 giant automoton the Numidium
Fallout: Civilized Humans, long gone, left behind machines and other tech, 1 giant robot, Liberty Prime.
Liberty Prime is used by Brotherhood of steel to dominate enclave
Numidium used to dominate high elves.
High elves wanting to return to a past culture
Enclave "wanting to return humanity to it's past glory" Cx
So what you're saying is... Giant Robots will always defeat the Nazis. *History Books Updated.*
World War 3 Big American Robot Vs. Nazis
Ventarri PVP Todd Howard's magic.
Elder Scrolls 6 Settlements confirmed!
History do have a tendency to repeat itself, even fake ones
I'm suppose to be studying for my finals while I'm sitting here learning about Tamriel lore.
iamthepootisman1 did you pass your finals bro!
How did it go
Bro you good?
Bro?
All learning is good. As long as you are learning, then everything is good.
"No dwemer was ever heard from again..." except that one from morrowind....
Yagrum Bagrum. The last of the Dwemer, besides a talking ghost who helps you reforge Trueflame.
Levi Herendeen People theorize that he was a dwarf not a dwemer
Levi Herendeen Since the dwemer were normal elves with different names
wait dwemer are elves?
but I Remember in one mission in Skyrim were you were in some guy's head and in the mission you see three MEN in dwemer armor.
Dragonslayer Ornstein was Nerevar!?
Mind... Blown...
Wow I just noticed that lol
No way I said the same thing
Its really sad if you think of it, Nerevar the hero who only wanted peace and good was betrayed by those he saved. And Dagoth the most loyal and great friend of Nerevar was corrupted by the power, and lost his loyalty. And Nerevar was forced to hurt him and only Nerevar's soul himself could kill him. (The Nerevarine)
At 1:30 my first thought was:
"...Ornstein?"
knight of thorns armor mod. hasnt come out for special eddition yet
Also it was Almalexia who persuaded the others to take up godhood, not Sotha Sil.
Almalexia only needed to convince Vivec who was reluctant at the beggining, anyway, it WAS Sotha Sils idea, shame you never get to meet him during the tribunal expansion since Almalexia had alredy secretly killed him.
No, Sotha Sil was the one who figured it out, but it was from the start it was Almalexia's idea. I'm not even sure Seht cared for divinity that much.
The Story is told in the books that it is Sotha Sil.idea
No, not really. There are no books that really mention it being Sotha Sil's idea, just his genius. Not to mention there's not many books about him to begin with. The idea that Sotha Sil also went mad isn't true, that's what Almalexia tells people (at a point when she's already mad), hell I don't think Sotha Sil cares enough to go mad.
Pastaspace Sotha Sil discovered the means to use the Tools and the three took godhood of their own will, they weren't persuaded by the others.
This is the story the tribunal told the public but if you ever played morrowind then you would know that after Dagoth fled, The Nevera was going to call Azura and ask what to do with the tools, the other three knew that she would tell him to destroy them so they poisoned him and took the tools for themselves. Azura came and cursed them and said he would be reborn and avenge his murder. All the ashlanders knew this so the tribunal persecuted them hard, and dagoth ur tells you this when you meet him
Both are true. The dragon break caused by activating Numidium means multiple timelines take place, meaning both events and possibly more took place.
Ayem, Seht and Vehk stood by their friend Nerevar as he succumbed to his wounds.
Almalexia, Sotha Sil and Vivec murdered their Hortator
Nerevar.
Ayem Seht Vehk = Almalexia Sotha Sil Vivec = ALMSIVI. Everything is true, nothing is correct.
I see things this way:
1. Dagoth Ur used tools on heart after the battle, otherwise he would be dead,but he was resurrected. He did it by some kind of accident, if he done it right, Tribunal/Nerevar would not be able to defeat him beneath Red Mountain. After using tools he lost his mind, or at least part of it.
2. I think Nerevar died from wounds inflicted by , either dwemer (battle sure was fierce enough, remember Trueflame shattered in dwemer shield) or/and Dagoth Ur. I dont think Tribunal killed Nerevar. I think members of the Tribunal were good (back then) and they wanted to do good things with divine powers,for their country and their people. There is propaganda to it for sure, but remember that all accounts speak of Tribunal doing great and heroic things for the people with their divine power (Salas Valor basically confirms this, Almalexia stop being good is the very reason he rebels),also remember that Tribunal Gods didnt went on berserk mode and start conquering the rest of the Tamriel.
So it was not about the power for the sake of power (at the begging at least). I think many people miss the point of the story of Morrowind. The way i see it, its not about revenge, its about "the path to evil being paved with good intentions" and about mortality and godhood. As Vivec said himself, its a sad thing being mortal, beaten by life,fate,gods... but at the end being God is also difficult (responsibility),lonely and so on.
Tribunal wanted to do good things and they did, they wanted to free mortal races from Daedric influences and they did (to some extent).
But, even without Dagoth Ur, they were losing what was left of their humanity (Dagoth Urs awakening only speeded up the process) and it is the key problem, they become more and more like Daedra (that they despise) and less "human". They forget about the people and only cared about themselves, Almalexia especially.
Thanks for reading and sorry for bad English :D
Ok
You're objectively wrong about the Tribunal not killing Neravar. Vivec literally admits he did it in 3 different places, in 2 different games.
@@MeepChangeling You use word "objectively" wrong. Vivec denies killing Nerevar when you ask him about it in his temple-palace, but claims hi did betray him by using tools. There are many books and notes in Morrowind, not only Vivec poems, that state false facts. Vivec killing him is more in line of him betraying Nerevars wishes... his dying friend. Not actually stabbing him with knife or something. Azura also never accused Tribunal of killing Nerevar, but rather of them betraying him and her and using tools on the heart. That was their crime.
Dagoth Ur himself claims he and Nerevar fought beneath Red Mountain.
And there is only one game that matters on the subject and thats Morrowind and its expansions.
All I have to say is FOUL MURDER
series is 10/10 been binge watching this since yesterday
umm where was the part where the tribunal murdered nerevar during the summoning ritual?
Banished. Not murder.
ESO Nerevar They poisoned him.
Penis Sword Through Chest
@@karmasleep2125 Honestly can we take ESO as Fully Canonical?
1-it was released nearly 20 years after the tribunals lore was established
2-It takes place nearly 1000 years beforehand
3-It’s not even made By Bethesda it’s made by Zenimax the parent company of BGS
I’ll take some of ESOs lore as Canon
But the preexisting lore that they’ve changed to fit the more modern audience. No. That’s not canon
It’s pretty bad when entire groups of the Devs and voice actors say most of it isn’t canon and the CEO says “It is because I say it is”
Azura's logic: Damn all these Nords!! I'LL KILL ALL THE IMPERIALS! THAT'LL TEACH THEM! Lmao, what a comedy is her uncontrollable power!
if this was about real history then l would be historian
Eepu Sæm
Eepu ikr
ITS REAL TO ME DAMMIT
A lot of the history in the elder scrolls are based on history and myths in the real world.
@@n_crowe Are there magic, dragons and literal fucking gods blowing shit up?
Azura, god of bananas and throwing stars
LittleBoss (JyAP) wait wait WAIT nervarin mark have have a half moon which looks like a bannana and a star but the islam sign also is neravarines sign.............WTF HOLY SHIT!!!!
There are some major flaws in this
1 - There was a single Dwemer left, Yagrum Bagarn, he was in a different dimension (Oblivion) at the time and was spared
2 - Dagoth Ur convinced Almalexia who then persuaded Sotha Sil to create a way to use the Heart
3 - Sotha Sil, Almalexia and Vivec poisoned Nerevar, with poisoned Robes, Candles and poems, respectively.
4 - Dagoth went mad with power and tried to undo what the others had done and that's why he kept the Heart and tools
I think you mean appreciate, and I do, but if they are going to make a lore video, it should at least be accurate, it's like if I made a game about CoD and said Captain price was Canadian
Dagoth didn't convince anybody, nor did Almalexia or any of the Tribunal.
Dagoth may have went mad, but he kept his oath to Nerevar much better than the others did.
Tom Willard I agree....the research for this didn't seem as comprehensive
1. The existence of a last remaining dwemer is not widely known, and I know they tend to write each video from a particular viewpoint, usually one that greatly involves the subject matter (so from the Tribunal themselves perhaps?)
2. I'm a bit rusty, but didn't Dagoth Ur go nuts trying to stay loyal to Nerevar (hence he didn't want to give up the tools?) He ended up with godhood inadvertently?
3. The poisoning is up for some debate...it's said both ways many times in the games, and since we never hear an official firsthand account (the Tribunal would never admit they did it) we can't say for sure. I personally think they did, too, but no solid evidence in-game. I do wish they would've at least mentioned this possibility, but oh well.
4. Again, I think the power of the Heart drove him mad, but it made him mad with purpose: to continue protecting these tools as instructed by Lord Nerevar.
Well, Vehk did admit to it... (the murder I mean). It is pretty stablished that the Tribunal murdered Nerevar.
Oh Azura, this is so inaccurate. I barely know where to begin.
01:38 His name was Nerevar.. not Indoril, not *the* Nerevar. He IS remembered today, his face is on the ordinator armors in Morrowind. He is loved by the Tribunal, even though they murdered him.
2:45 Arguable on that friendship part. Almalexia is Nerevar's Wife.
3:00 Their names before godhood were Ayem, Seht, and Vehk respectively.
3:25 Kagrenac wasn't evil. Also, the Numidium wasn't intended to be THEIR god, it was meant to be a way to broadcast the Heart of Lorkhan's power into the entire race of Dwemer, so they could ascend to godhood as a whole. They wouldn't worship it, they already had gods.
04:12 Where did you get that from? Dagoth told Nerevar that, as Dagoth was suspicious of the dwemer. Nerevar went to Dumac to clear it up but Dumac told him not to meddle in the affairs of the Dwemer. Then he became suspicious.
5:40 Automatons AND dwemer themselves fought.
6:11 He rallied all Chimer together through their Velothi religion and became the Hortator, basically a Warlord.
7:35. They fused to the Skin of Numidium. That's what happened. They became part of the Numidium.
8:00 **THIS PART IS THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL AND ACTUALLY HAS LITTLE ESTABLISHED CANON, AS WELL A ME BEING RUSTY WITH THIS EVENT.** but god man, even I can do better. After what happened to Dagoth, (He was made to guard the tools, and so was corrupted by his proximity to the heart of lorkhan, driving him insane and making him into the Sharmat) he was cautious about destroying them and wanted to get counsel from Azura. Unfortunately, The tribunal were seduced by the power and poisoned his robes, insence and verses of prayer. They killed him and then stole the power of the heart using the tools of Kagrenac.
Oh, and Yagarum Bagarum, the last remaining dwemer, is still alive during the Third Era.
Seconded. Shoddycast usually sticks to the facts but this one is heavily interpreted and biased (couldn't be more anti-dwemer), on top of the many lore mistakes and omissions. Maybe they were trying to tell the story from the chimer point of view, but that's not a good thing seeing the purpose of these series is to initiate people into TES lore, better stick to hard facts.
Indoril is the great house name, like a last name, Nerevar is his first name, his title was the Hortator. There is no desert in Resdayn (Yes it wasn't called morrowind at that time) but ashlands, Nerevar was the chieftain of the ashlanders not desert barbarians.
"7:35. They fused to the Skin of Numidium. That's what happened. They became part of the Numidium."
By that I guess you mean that they used Numidium (The brass god/Golem) as a catalyst, a means to an end, to reach Anumidum (The dwemers own sacred and divine plane, like their own Aetherius). The Dwemer vanished, period, there is no proof that they all literally died, or transcended the mortal plane into godhood, or that maybe, by messing with lorkhan's hearth, the Earth Bones (akatosh) flinged them in time, like what happened to alduin and thus the dwemer could come back at some point. It's just I doubt that all the dwemer souls are in the Brass Golem. But this is Tamriel's biggest mystery, so who knows, I like that Bethesda left this unanswered, leaves room for a lot personal interpretations of the event (much like Dark souls lore) and nice debates on the subject, keeps it fun and interesting.
Dagoth Ur was killed by Nerevar, Ayem, Seht, and Vehk, but he resuscitated later on, unbeknownst to them. The whole House Dagoth was purged due to this incident.
The last remaining dwemer, correct name is Yagrum Bagarn, found in Tel Fyr under the care of the Telvanni wizard lord Dyvath Fyr.
Frencho9
The great thing about Bethesda lore is there is no clear sides, and everyone interpenetrates their own story's from what is available the physical world. To anyone who wants the real story play morrowind Game of the year, and heavily modded.
Use this video*** as more or less a reference because unless you played through it two or three times the plot can be a bit confusing. Read your books, pay attention to your thousands of pages of dialog and well just imagine the rest of the world. Facts are Facts, History is construed facts.
And you really think, that your informations are better?
They are still inaccurate in some points
JasonDoe1000 Yes,Both Pariah's info and mine are better, and everything said is accurate. Don't criticise without an argument and something to defend said argument.
There is a side quest in the collage of Winterhold that is called Arniel's Endeavor. For those who have not heard or finished this quest. The quest starts off as most do gathering what is to be thought useless gears for this mage to study. In fact it's more of a test for him to trust you with an even greater task. He wants to find out why the Dwemer disappeared by recreating what they did. The gears were used to make a dwarven convector which he broke in his last attempt. This causes the player to find ones that are all over Skyrim. After completing this he asks you to find him the artifact call Keening(as seen in this video), a dagger used to harness power from the heart of lorkan. With this dagger and the wrapped gem he 'successfully' recreates what he believed happened to the Dwemer and disappears forever. The Keening along with Sunder and Wraithguard are the 3 devices used to harness the heart. Arniel even talked about the gem not being equivalent to a dead god's heart but the purified soul gem should work just as well. I'm only trying to explain more on what this series has explained thus far of the Dwemer. I'm not trying to say that Arniel did what the Dwemer did as he lacked the the heart, Sunder and Wraithgaurd but I'm just explaining an adding more information.
Kagranak created memes to create the Numidium?
What?!
+Enclave Commander NO.3-117 they actually met Means, but if so then Kagranak is tamriel's First Meme Master
+Eve Grey Yep the first dank memer ever.
+Enclave Commander NO.3-117 Indeed, he had memes for eons. Memes for eons? Memes for eons.
Still does too.
-no dwemer was seen, or heard of again
Except Yagrum, in Morrowind
I think he was playing it up for dramatic effect, but it IS a bit misleading. Still, makes for great storytelling.
It's still great storytelling, and I wouldn't be surprised if the dwemer's disappearance came up in another video, but I thought I might as well inform others
Josh Cottle
That's a fair point. I'm kind of surprised he didn't at least mention Yagrum offhandedly but I'm sure he had his reasons.
He probably did, I would expect it's scheduled for another video seeing as this is about the Tribunal, but that's just a guess.
Josh Cottle
I agree with that. When you are making an entire series, with each episode covering a specific subject, you have to avoid the temptation of rambling off topic. I give him props for staying on target.
Your pronunciation gave me corprus.
+Gungrave123 haahhahhahah
"Chimer"
CHImer"
CHIraq
imao
happy christmas everybody
It's been over 8 years since this video was last uploaded. It's now the second year of the epidemic, and I'm rewatching one of my favorite TH-camrs. I hope you're having a wonderful time wherever you are.
Vahvòòk, vehvàk, vavàk, vavèk, vyuvjoyk, vehvèhk, vjuçìniç. Meh. I love the ability of this voice actor to achieve thousands of wrong pronunciations on a single word. This is pure dedication!
Btw, love your work :)
The old intro please. It always gives me goosebumps
Please don't shorten the opening like you did with this video, it gets me so pumped up and ready for what's to come. And we only get new videos every other week, so I don't feel as though it's getting old or anything.
Your videos are epic! Please do one on Dagoth Ur.
It is my belief that he was the only one loyal to Nerevar when the Tribunal betrayed and was slowly driven to madness being in contact with Kagrenac's tools. I think his last request from a dieing Nerevar was to guard the tools at any cost. The best thing about this plot is its so open to interpretation!
You forgot something... They were never heard from again... Except one Dwarf, in Morrowind.
What dwarf? They all disappeared, didn't they?
moongirl786 nope, there is one more.. altough he is really sick with corprus desease, Yagrum Bagarn
Oh thx, I'll look him up
moongirl786 Search for the sorcerer, Divayth Fyr.
Tin Miladinovic
If I remember correctly he wasn't on Tamriel when the dwarves dissapeared.
I have a theory on the disappearance of the Dwarves. What if they just got lost in time, either in the past or future, Think about it, an entire race just vanishing without a trace or even one body being found. Isn't it possible that when the heart was stabbed somehow they ruptured the fabric of space and time with it only affecting their race sense they dwelled in that sort of thing. Also, remember they were the most technologically advanced race in all of Tamrial. Perhaps they could be brought back like Alduin but it would have too be the same place where they vanished which is Red Mountain.
they disappeared becuz they messed with the heart if lorkhan it says so in the lore books and all Dunmer have confirmed it
_I'm aware of that._
+Kirā Senju u can meet another Dwemer still alive in morrowind but he has no idea what happened to his people he doesn't even know thay his people disapeared LOL
_Yes._
+Kirā Senju SHUT UP
Awesome video! It's really great to see this illustrated with such great visuals.The Dwemer are by far my favorite race in all of fiction and the Battle of Red Mountain is my favorite event in Elder Scrolls history!
It blows my mind how much lore is in the Elder Scrolls...and people think that gamers are stupid, when in turn they are some of the greatest thinkers and dreamers to every live...
I 100% agree with this. When I read this my exact words were: "EXACATLY!" And yes, I said that out loud at my desk. :)
Mitchell McLean Well I'm glad to not disappoint!
Nick Sheldon
It that a reference to that CHIM nonsense?
Also, we gamers are stupid, in many ways.
I feel no solidarity with any of you.
Michael Kirkbride calls the races:
Dway-mere (Dwemer)
Dune-mere (Dunmer)
Alt-mere (Altmer)
Bo-mere (Bosmer)
Kye-mere (Chimer)
Orsi-mere (Orsimer)
Fall-mere (Falmer)
Maou-mere (Maormer)
Ay-yield (Ayield)
Uhhh, what? No. The Tribunal, those three, they killed Nerevar. Assassinated him. Nerevar did not die through his wounds in battle of the Red Mountain, it was due to the three.
Thanks alot now I want to play Skyrim...
***** Its never a bad thing
Floyd OGK what if he had to study :D it would be nightmare
because of the topic wouldn't you want to play Morrowind....? ;)
There were six houses, not five: Indoril, Redoran, Dres, Hlallu, Telvanni, and Dagoth. Hence the "Sixth House" faction in TES3: Morrowind.
+General Decianus Ya but towards end-game u can become a literal god. U can enchant sumthing to just make urself be able to fly all over the map. It gets crazy once u learn all of the mechanics and shit and learn how to break the game once ur rich and powerful. Its amazing.
The creators of the elder scrolls games should have you on board for the shear awesomeness that is of the story telling you do with the actual lore!.
7:34 "No Dwemer was ever seen or heard from again" - Except Yagrum Bagarn
Yismir had a considerable role in this history between Dwemer and Chimer, according with the Wiki statements, he was not mentioned here neither in the Talos saga, somehow I think that Yismir was avoided here to prevent lore conflicts, but the games quotes him and there are other versions of the tales that is said here.
That was beautiful! The ascendance of the Tribunal and the Battle of Red Mountain is shrouded in mystery. There are many different interpretations of this event, but I like this story.
Plus the art amazing; presenting unique attire foreign to any of the games. Great Job!
I thought the Dwemer were fighting the Falmer at the time of their disapearance? Sometimes the lore get's so tangled around with dates and years...
***** So the Dwemer were fighting the Chimer and the Falmer who were rebelling at the same time...these guys really don't know how to make friends...
***** Falmer and Dwemer were fighting underneath Skyrim for decades before the Dwemer disappeared. (War of the Crag)
***** Only in Skyrim, the Dwemer in Morrowind never had Falmer slaves
REACH464
The Falmer and the dwemer fight against each other in the "War of the Crag", this war took place in Skyrim, the Falmer were slaves of the "Skyrim-Dwemer", the Dwemer of Morrowind fight against the Chimer in the "War of the first Council", so both wars happened at the same time, but at other places
Thats the dwemer of skyrim they where Under different leader ship
I remember watching this video last year
Uhuhuhuhuh, amazingly funny, uhuhuhuhuh!
Hail and Praises for the amount of work you guys put into this series. After you having gone for to long, i can breath again, Thank you, thank you, thank you so Much!!!, Really, really.
Just wanted to say thankyou for giving your own time into these Lores we have all loved. Thankyou!
Oh snap its my boy Ornstein!
You should do an episode on the Vigilants of Stendarr. I think their pretty interesting. They are like this worlds Paladins.
No... Knights of the Nine are the Paladins I think.
Sanguine
I disagree. Based on what I am reading their main point seems to be recovering relics and not destroying evil. Besides as of Skyrim that order does not exist anymore.
Edit: Scratch that last part. I'm not sure if they exist or not atm. Still disagree though.
Sanguine No their dead if I believe since the commander of the nine been dead since 200 years ago, unless he promoted one of his knights to be the next commander
Kill them on sight, what more can be said?
Alex Hopkins
Kill them on sight....with maces? >.>
Thank you for all your work Kyle and Josh
just stunning how you tell the story
You guys should do a segment of akavir
I believe the intent by the end of the series is to cover the history of Nirn itself including all the other continents, though the entire ES series will have to finish up haha.
Finnik Sean McDownsen Even atmora?
I believe so
Quick question: I thought the gigantic pulsating structure at the end of Morrowind was the heart of Lorkhan- grantedI never played through the game myself, I watched my dad play it because I was way too young and stupid to get how to play the game properly, so am I mistaken? I just thought it was a lot bigger than how it was portrayed in this video.
No, you're right. That was the heart at the end of the game. I know the ShoddyCast hasen't really played Morrowind that much so I believe that's why they don't use images or anything from it.
SirAdsew they didnt use that heart because they didnt have the model of it in skyrim and since neither of can/have the time to code it in they used a substitute
The Heart wasn't very large in Morrowind either, the one they were striking towards the end was of similar size.
*****
Yeah but isn't there like.. console commands that can make the heart they used massive? Always had a fun time doing that with horses in Oblivion- tiny ass hero on a tiny ass horse.
they did. they didnt make it as big as its suppose to be, but if it was that big it wouldnt fit on a table
You guys have the best Elder Scrolls lore series ever!
Lmao this is better than most shows on Netflix. Subscribed.
It's fun when you say the dwemer's name because it resembles "Tabernacle" which in québécois french is a curse word. So not used to ear youswear, I almost fell out of my chair ahah.
What does "Tabernacle" mean?
It's an item of cult in the catholic church where the priests put the Chalice containing the blood of christ (Wine) and some flat bread (representing his body).
We often pronounce it ta-Bar-nak and it's a common curse word here (pretty close to the F word) because of our catholic roots. I use it often and I'm atheist, just sayin.
Cultural stuff.
Lol I laughed at the french swear word too XP
7:30 WRONG! you can find the last Dwemmer in Morrowind.
Make this series weekly please it is the best lore series ever
I have FINALLY done it! I have caught up on ALL Shoddy Cast ESO, Epic Stories & Fallout vids! Sub'd in mid Dec. bcuz of ESO lore vids (Josh, Josh, HE'S our man! If he can't do it, NO ONE can!) and stayed for the rest (except GW, which I am unfamiliar with). I have spent long hours, daily, going from oldest to newest and the day is finally HERE! I feel a bit like Tom Hanks in Cast Away, when he finally manages to make a fire. "I have made FIRE! I have done this!" LOL. But now that my labors are done, and the holiday season (I hope yours are merry and festive, Shoddy Bros) is upon us, I must wait for more and I'm not quite sure what to do with my life til you return. I've sepnt so many countless hours listening to you both, that you've become my best friends (j/k) & I will miss you. ;) Guess it's back to Morrowind for a couple of weeks. Love u guys. Have commented on almost every vid. Can't wait until they release some juicy confirmations on ESO. Until then, I bid you adieu. :*
For the last time the lore is given from the perspective of the subject.
A video about the tribunal is going to show their view on things and there official version of the accounts.
That is for all of you that are saying this episode got everything wrong just remember this is the tribunals version of history not an objectiv story telling.So stop saying the episode has it all wrong since this is the tribunals official version of the events.
Could you do some on Mannimarco or the Tharn family, please?
Tht would be nice
That's what I thought
Loving the shortened intro that you guys have implemented lately!
Thanks ShoddyCast now i have to make a dark elf save again!
Nerevar was his name. Indoril is the title of the House he founded/belonged to/married into via Almalexia. His full name would have been Serjo Indoril Nerevar Mora. Serjo (title of respect) Indoril (House) Nerevar (name) Mora (House)
No mention of Trueflame shattering? Nerevar wasn't even wielding Trueflame in the pictures. There is a mod for Trueflame as well as Hopesfire: www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/47249/?
ShoddyCast thank for the Elder scrolls Lore I learned a lot and enjoy watching and hope the series continue for a long time
It is no longer known what was the cause of Nerevar's death, the most popular tale is the one mentioned in the video. However another texts suggest that he died from wounds Dagoth inflicted, and ashlander texts say that his advisers killed him in order to gain power.
Great video looking forwards to the next :)
It seems odd that the Dwemer are always shown in armor, even when working inside a work shop. Is it because "dwarven" armor is the only type of apparel associated with them that exists in Skyrim?
Yup. There are not existing models of Dwemer that do them justice. A proper Dwemer should be an elf with grey skin and a beard that reaches to his belt.
+Lightscribe225 Morrowind had Dwemer chosts. Dwemer could have been based on them.elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarven_Spectre
Sorry to say "you are wrong" but you are wrong, 1 dwemmer did survive since he was in a alternative plane when the other dwemmer disappeared.
Yeah isn't he that fat mechanical spider legged dude in the underground caves in tel fyr in morrowind?
+Jamihaus yep
+Jamihaus Not spider legged anymore. He is very much two legged nowadays. And his voice is surprisingly nasally, yet deep.
There's a mod where you meet him.
+The Darkness Thats not even him in the mod.
Ethan Stansmore It was a being disguised as him with a spell.
Thank you for this. None of it ever made any sense to me until now.
Don't know if this is true or not but apparently it was the Almsivi that was responsible for the death of Nerevar by poisoning him whilst he was injured by his wounds. It is said that he would have lived otherwise and if he did it coulds have change everything.
Great video, but one question. Why is the Nerevar riding a horse? Horses can't exist in Morrowind's harsh climate.
Probably just for show
SILENCE
They couldn't be bothered getting a guar mod. The whole charm of the dunmer is in how different they are to more generic races like the Imperials and Nords, so giving them horses ruins it somewhat.
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***** There's a horse in Morrowind in this video. There shouldn't be, whether ridden or not.
Huh. I didn't know Nerevar and Ornstein the Dragonslayer were the same person.
Oh my goodness, I have been waiting for this for 2 weeks. Thankyou, SC and keep up the great work!
ahh i love seeing that a new lore video from you on my homepage shoddycast! makes my day :D
dark elves are best elves
I do like dark elves, and this is from a High elf player! Were not all Thamlor!
Daniel Peters You fool! Elven supremacy is the only way!
MannnisEi I know, i said were not all thamlor, i never said i wasn't :D
MannnisEi Skyrim belongs to the Nords! Milk-drinker!
It is time for a new empire, a fourth empire, ruled by the dark elves of House Redoran and under the control of the Nerevarine
Anyone else think that Almalexia looks hot?
yup
9 out of 10
Yup.
***** 18 people beg to differ
***** Depends are you an outlander?
Nice upload. If you're willing, one thing that I would like to see is a series on a timeline of historical battles, events, people, etc, in order to put all these events and dates that you mention into chronological perspective. These videos all do well, but its easy to get the dates all jumbled- some sort of visual, linear video would be much appreciated!
This is my favorite series on TH-cam, keep up the good work!
i love this series but somebody needs to do a super detailed one that includes all the alternate debated events.
Were the Dwemer cast forward in time like Alduin was?
...CONSPIRACY
It is one of many theories. Another popular one, is that the dwemer, transcended into a single entity, and reside in a completely different plane, outside mundus even. Who knows...
lenrat117 we already learned what happened to the dwemer, they all became the skin of The Numidium
I love the Nerevarine's armor.
Alex Darksider it is actually ornstein armour from dark souls.
Excellent as always, Shoddy Cast!
Why does nervar look like Orstien xD
*ornstein
Thx
Nerevar*
thanks again
its an armor mod from the real thorn knight ornstein
im playing morrowind right now so its nice to listen to this as I play
+Cristalveil I'm finishing up Tribunal and am about to start Bloodmoon. These Lore videos really help to immerse me into the world of Tamriel.
+andyt1313 If you have never played with mods on, I suggest the Rise of House Telvanni mod and Uvirith's Legacy mod.
I wouldnt mind learning on the different cities of each state of Tameriel .. I hope one day it will be a ShoddyCast lore video soon :D
There is some debate as to what really happened in Red Mountain. Dagoth being a madman is the "official" story, but there are several hints in the lore to something else having happened on that day. For example Vivec writes "He was not born a god. His destiny did not lead him to this crime. He chose this path of his own free will. He stole the godhood and murdered the Hortator. Vivec wrote this." in one of his sermons.
Also, in his trial (some might not consider that a proper source, but I find it intriguing nonetheless) he admits the following "As Vehk and Vehk I hereby answer, my right and my left, with black hands. Vehk the mortal did murder the Hortator. Vehk the God did not, and remains as written. And yet these two are the same being. And yet are not, save for one red moment. Know that with the Water-Face do I answer, and so cannot be made to lie.". Vehk was the name Vivec used at the time, and since he uses his water-face he cannot lie. The nature of this has to with the time-break, which in my opinion is the most interesting part of the entire event. Would be wonderful if you could do a series on that. :)
MOAR LORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That Sonic the hedgehog armour is hideous.
Mal Nexus Agree to disagree.
Thank you for all your hard work!
The art has improved again!
What is Ornstein doing here?
I thought exactly the same
Lore-ception!
Nerevar and Smough
+Batz Ornstein and Smough
I'm both happy and sad they shortened the intro
"To understand the tribunal at its fullest, one name must resonate at your very core"
Dragonslayer Ornstien?
Am I the only guy who thinks that Nerevar's armor resembles Dragonslayer Ornstein's?
Other way around :P
mojonation1487 Morrowind came first, didn't it?
I pointed it out 4 days ago...
It's a mod for Skyrim. I believe Ornstein's armor was inspired by it.
Pretty sure that's modded armor.
Where do you get Sotha Sil being the evil one of the Tribunal seducing the others to use the heart?
One of the possible reasons why Kagrenac had tapped into the Heart of Lorkhan, was not because he wished to create a new god and worship it (after all, Dwemer did not worship anything), but because he wished to undo the Earth Bones and make the Dwemer divine, and Numidium was to be their "transport" to divinity. Some think that the Dwemer actually became the golden skin of Numidium, and when it ascended to divinity due to the Heart of Lorkhan, they would ascend along with it.
The Dwemer were seen again after the events of the Battle of Red Mountain, or rather, a Dwemer. Yagrum Bagarn had somehow escaped the fate of the rest of the Dwemer while exploring the Outer Realms, and when he came back to Mundus, he found his race gone. While searching for his lost race, he became infected with Corprus, and came to live in Divayth Fyr's Corprusarium. Also, in TES V: Skyrim, the Master Conjuration trainer, Falion, mentions that he's met and conversed with Dwemer while travelling the Outer Realms. Could it possibly have been Yagrum Bagarn he conversed with, whom might've traveled to the Outer Realms to escape the events of the Red Year?
Actually, there was a conflicting report that Indoril Nerevar did not die of his wounds from Dumac, but had died at the hands of Vivec, Almalexia and Sotha Sil, who craved the power of Lorkhan's Heart. During a story from Michael Kirkbride (whom wrote alot of the obscure lore for TES series), when he was on trial by Azura, Vivec admitted to killing Nerevar.
Btw, why do you have Indoril Nerevar wielding a spear in the video? Indoril Nerevar was known to wield the sword, Trueflame.
Great work. These always make my day a little bit better.
Ornstein is Lord Nerevar, eh?
Really good video, but you are only looking at one PoV. Some accounts state that when Nerevar returned to consult Vivec, Almalexia, and Sotha Sil, he was betrayed by them. They then returned to Red Mountain to use the tools, but Voryn Dagoth had sworn to Nerevar that he would not give up the tools to anyone except Nerevar himself. The Tribunal attacked Dagoth and drove him beneath Red Mountain. Read "Nerevar at Red Mountain", "Progress of Truth", and "Nerevar Moon and Star". This version is actually more likely than the version told by the temple (the one you covered here).
Not sure anyone else has said it but I actually prefer the longer introduction, not the cut one. I liked being able to recite it!
why did you short down the elder scrolls lore series intro and the same with the fallout one:( It was more epic before...