Andrew understand you are impressed, but don’t for once justify the cars price tag with your 8:53 “bang for you buck” comment. The asking price of AUD 72,600 for this new gen type r is just way off the mark. 60-65k driveaway would’ve have been the sweet spot. You are encouraging these car makers to charge these sorts of prices for new performance cars.
Brilliant car that may go down as THE ultimate front wheel drive petrol engined hot hatch. I live in the UK where the car retails at a ridiculously high £47K which is putting so many people off the car, but also suggesting that the vehicle may be a very limited numbers production run?. One for the investors not the majority of drivers sadly.
And You're willing to get Ripped Off by Honda Australia if You live here??? Even our nearby Neighbourhood Brother New Zealand is selling it at $64,200 AUD ($69,000 NZD), that's 8,000 dollars extra You're forking out for nothing. 8000 dollars worth of Options You can put on the car. Honda Australia have been ripping Customers off ever since the 2nd Integra Type R 22 Years ago, jacking up the Price taking All the Good Stuff out and detuning it for no particular reason. They say because of the poorer quality fuel we get, which is a load of BS since we get 98 Octane at BP and She'll already 22 years ago. Japan gets 100 Octane but 2 Octane level difference does not have any effect on the Engine Power.
Claim made about fl5 supposedly being "significantly faster" at 0:12 is incorrect fl5 is slower than both fk8 and fk8 le, at Sodegaura Raceway, as well as drag races: Fl5: 0 to 60: 4.9s 1/4 mile: 13.5s Fk8: 0 to 60: 4.9s 1/4 mile: 13.4s Fk8 LE: 0 to 60: 4.6s 1/4 mile: 13.3s Source: Fastlaps
ONLY slower for Drift King Tsuchiya Keiichi. Another Driver Mutoh did a much better lap time even in Hot Weather conditions at 25~28 degress and did a 1:15.90, plus FK8 and FK8 LE was done in Winter Cold Weather conditions so that's why it's faster. You guys are the ones that are Clueless.
@TheScalyman Read the comment below, there was a Faster time done by FL5 at Sodegaura in October 25~28 degrees day compared to Winter conditions of 10 degrees or below for both FK8s.
@volkan814 I ALREADY know that mate. Throttle House's rolling sprint wasn't even fair, the FK8 was half a car length in front of the FL5 and He wasn't even shifting smoothly and fast on the FL5, if it was Me I would be Faster and more aggressive than Him.
I think with all cars heading towards electrification this Civic will one day be a bit of a collectors item. It does seem to be rather fabulous and I think it looks stunning; that helps
@X XL Provide the FL5 ring time to prove it lmfao You cant Theres already proof of the Fk8 walking FL5s from a roll - its basic math Fk8 has a 4.1 final drive vs the slower 3.8 final drive the FL5 has
@@TheFK8Life Type R's aren't about drag races.... Oh, and let's see what the acceleration numbers are like when comparing a run in FK8 with a "run in" FL5, not a low mileage example such as we've seen so far?
Honda Australia is ripping Car Enthusiasts off with that straight up BS Price tag. They don't even offer Boost Blue Metalic as a colour choice like every other market does, even Honda New Zealand does. The Price with full options come at $82800 AUD and not even half the Accessories available from Japan and the Rear Optional Carbon Wing is $1287 more at $4250 AUD when Japan is only selling it for $2963 AUD. The Base Price for New Civic Type R in New Zealand is $69,000 NZD which is $64,199 AUD, much closer to the Price my Friend in Japan got with His FL5 with Full Options. $69,000 NZD equates to ¥5,957,276 Yen, My Friend got His for 6.2 Million Yen with Full Options. Honda Australia's ridiculous less than Half and call it Full Options $82800 AUD comes at ¥7,685,774 Yen. IT IS BEYOND INSANITY. You ought to Wonder why Honda Australia keeps making THE SAME MISTAKES that they have been since bringing the DC5 Integra Type R down under 22 Years ago taking All the Good Stuff off the Car and Detuning it. We now have a Female Australian as Honda Australia CEO instead of a True Japanese like Honda New Zealand, that's why they are making these Aweful Decisions and ruining the Brands reputation in Australia. There were said to be 4000 Aussies putting down an interest about the car before any official news released about the Price etc, with this Ridiculous Price tag and no Boost Blue which is more popular than Flame Red or Crystal Black, at least more than Half the people will be put off by this and will not buy from Honda Australia. It Can't be Bang For Your Bucks car when they are literally Ripping You Off！
In Italy the price is 54k euros, but our problems are the taxes after you buy it. Just for the power, we pay 1.5k every year and at least 3/4k for the insurance. Just to have this car in your garage, you spend 4/500 euros every month without driving it... Imagine, after 5 years you spent 25k euro just to own it...
For the price the N is better than both. If all were the same price then Golf r would be the best daily. N and Type R would be the best driving experience
If all were the same price you'd get the best value in engineering from the Type R. The engine and handling is at the pinnacle in this segment. But it wouldn't be worth upgrading if you already own a Veloster or Elantra N. ✌🏻
@@dknight25 if all were the same price you would get the GOLF R for the best value as well as engineering. The only place a type R would be better than a golf R is the track. As a daily driver you are lucky to take the car to the track 10 times a year. The rest of the 355 days the GOLF R is better in every aspect from speed to comfort to AWD to interior to class and so on.
@@glistud8178 I disagree. The engine and handling of the Type R is way ahead of the competition. The suspension and top end of the Honda is unmatched in this segment. The R wins from a dig due to AWD, Type R outperforms in mostly every thing else as has been documented.
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Andrew understand you are impressed, but don’t for once justify the cars price tag with your 8:53 “bang for you buck” comment. The asking price of AUD 72,600 for this new gen type r is just way off the mark. 60-65k driveaway would’ve have been the sweet spot. You are encouraging these car makers to charge these sorts of prices for new performance cars.
Brilliant car that may go down as THE ultimate front wheel drive petrol engined hot hatch. I live in the UK where the car retails at a ridiculously high £47K which is putting so many people off the car, but also suggesting that the vehicle may be a very limited numbers production run?. One for the investors not the majority of drivers sadly.
True. The most powerful Honda Civic Type R, up by 10hp approx from last model while $ also up by £10k. Quote from Taken movie "Good luck!"
Can’t wait to get mine!
And You're willing to get Ripped Off by Honda Australia if You live here??? Even our nearby Neighbourhood Brother New Zealand is selling it at $64,200 AUD ($69,000 NZD), that's 8,000 dollars extra You're forking out for nothing. 8000 dollars worth of Options You can put on the car.
Honda Australia have been ripping Customers off ever since the 2nd Integra Type R 22 Years ago, jacking up the Price taking All the Good Stuff out and detuning it for no particular reason. They say because of the poorer quality fuel we get, which is a load of BS since we get 98 Octane at BP and She'll already 22 years ago. Japan gets 100 Octane but 2 Octane level difference does not have any effect on the Engine Power.
Claim made about fl5 supposedly being "significantly faster" at 0:12 is incorrect
fl5 is slower than both fk8 and fk8 le, at Sodegaura Raceway, as well as drag races:
Fl5:
0 to 60: 4.9s
1/4 mile: 13.5s
Fk8:
0 to 60: 4.9s
1/4 mile: 13.4s
Fk8 LE:
0 to 60: 4.6s
1/4 mile: 13.3s
Source: Fastlaps
So true, the reviewer has no idea.
ONLY slower for Drift King Tsuchiya Keiichi. Another Driver Mutoh did a much better lap time even in Hot Weather conditions at 25~28 degress and did a 1:15.90, plus FK8 and FK8 LE was done in Winter Cold Weather conditions so that's why it's faster. You guys are the ones that are Clueless.
@TheScalyman Read the comment below, there was a Faster time done by FL5 at Sodegaura in October 25~28 degrees day compared to Winter conditions of 10 degrees or below for both FK8s.
@volkan814 I ALREADY know that mate. Throttle House's rolling sprint wasn't even fair, the FK8 was half a car length in front of the FL5 and He wasn't even shifting smoothly and fast on the FL5, if it was Me I would be Faster and more aggressive than Him.
@@tkmwong020480 copium.
They switched drivers. in the drag race.
Oh my goodness the bundle of charm is on again! ;)
Are the back seats in the EU spec alcantara?
Same as the USA?
@@unclelive6918 nope the back seats on the US spec are not. So yours are?
No Boost Blue available to Australia... very disappointing.
That’s a great car !
Hopefully they have a 5 seat option so i can justify this as a family car
When have you ever shubbed 5 people in a civic
Nope, Only 4 seats and Honda Australia are a ripp off compared to New Zealand's Price for the car. 8K more than New Zealand for the Base Price.
I think with all cars heading towards electrification this Civic will one day be a bit of a collectors item. It does seem to be rather fabulous and I think it looks stunning; that helps
FK8 & FL5 😍
FK8 is faster from a roll than FL5
@X XL Provide the FL5 ring time to prove it lmfao You cant
Theres already proof of the Fk8 walking FL5s from a roll - its basic math Fk8 has a 4.1 final drive vs the slower 3.8 final drive the FL5 has
Who cares
@@Voidhawk001 Obviously you do
@@TheFK8Life Type R's aren't about drag races.... Oh, and let's see what the acceleration numbers are like when comparing a run in FK8 with a "run in" FL5, not a low mileage example such as we've seen so far?
@@Voidhawk001 I do. As a potential buyer I would expect the new model to be faster. Its not.
Significantly faster? Hasn't it already been proven the previous gen is faster in a straight line, checkout throttle house review.
Indeed, but Honda don't want people talking about that at the moment with sales needing to be made for the new car.
Type r or Golf?
I like more the Type r but the Golf is much faster
Honda Australia is ripping Car Enthusiasts off with that straight up BS Price tag. They don't even offer Boost Blue Metalic as a colour choice like every other market does, even Honda New Zealand does.
The Price with full options come at $82800 AUD and not even half the Accessories available from Japan and the Rear Optional Carbon Wing is $1287 more at $4250 AUD when Japan is only selling it for $2963 AUD.
The Base Price for New Civic Type R in New Zealand is $69,000 NZD which is $64,199 AUD, much closer to the Price my Friend in Japan got with His FL5 with Full Options. $69,000 NZD equates to ¥5,957,276 Yen, My Friend got His for 6.2 Million Yen with Full Options. Honda Australia's ridiculous less than Half and call it Full Options $82800 AUD comes at ¥7,685,774 Yen. IT IS BEYOND INSANITY.
You ought to Wonder why Honda Australia keeps making THE SAME MISTAKES that they have been since bringing the DC5 Integra Type R down under 22 Years ago taking All the Good Stuff off the Car and Detuning it.
We now have a Female Australian as Honda Australia CEO instead of a True Japanese like Honda New Zealand, that's why they are making these Aweful Decisions and ruining the Brands reputation in Australia. There were said to be 4000 Aussies putting down an interest about the car before any official news released about the Price etc, with this Ridiculous Price tag and no Boost Blue which is more popular than Flame Red or Crystal Black, at least more than Half the people will be put off by this and will not buy from Honda Australia.
It Can't be Bang For Your Bucks car when they are literally Ripping You Off！
In Italy the price is 54k euros, but our problems are the taxes after you buy it. Just for the power, we pay 1.5k every year and at least 3/4k for the insurance. Just to have this car in your garage, you spend 4/500 euros every month without driving it...
Imagine, after 5 years you spent 25k euro just to own it...
Which is why I keep saying never put women in leadership rolls.
It almost always doesn't go well.
Fl5 the 6th generation of type R, not the 5th
Süper 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯..
I'm hearing vacuum cleaner.
I'd take the Veloster N over both R's. VN is just more fun to drive.
Its not faster around the ring then the fk8 type r
Golf R.
Thats an accord type r
Its competition seems like is camry lol
Type r or golf r? Neither. I'll keep my Hyundai N sedan
For the price the N is better than both. If all were the same price then Golf r would be the best daily. N and Type R would be the best driving experience
@@glistud8178 agreed.
If all were the same price you'd get the best value in engineering from the Type R. The engine and handling is at the pinnacle in this segment. But it wouldn't be worth upgrading if you already own a Veloster or Elantra N. ✌🏻
@@dknight25 if all were the same price you would get the GOLF R for the best value as well as engineering. The only place a type R would be better than a golf R is the track. As a daily driver you are lucky to take the car to the track 10 times a year. The rest of the 355 days the GOLF R is better in every aspect from speed to comfort to AWD to interior to class and so on.
@@glistud8178 I disagree. The engine and handling of the Type R is way ahead of the competition. The suspension and top end of the Honda is unmatched in this segment. The R wins from a dig due to AWD, Type R outperforms in mostly every thing else as has been documented.
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