I couldn't understand why this PC was so cheap... until I looked inside.

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  • Sometimes placing a last minute bid on an eBay item doesn't work out entirely how you want it to, and this HP prebuilt is one of those times. I found this PC for £21 / $27 and all seemed well until I took a look inside the case...
    Thanks for watching :)
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  • @ChrisD__
    @ChrisD__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1454

    I didn't realize you moved your hands when you talk. XD

    • @b.henriques9871
      @b.henriques9871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ahhaah sam

    • @naws69
      @naws69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      you could see them through his youtube plaque

    • @MSTheDev
      @MSTheDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Maybe he keeps it hidden to avoid this:
      th-cam.com/video/bwAioN2mtsA/w-d-xo.html

    • @JT-ko2ib
      @JT-ko2ib 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, lol.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's starting to feel like Digital Foundry.

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +567

    You keep apologizing and saying that you made a terrible mistake. Come on, bro. It was just £21. We've all made much bigger mistakes.

    • @WTFBOOMDOOM
      @WTFBOOMDOOM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Like my parents 9 months before my birth?

    • @MemesAndvids
      @MemesAndvids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@WTFBOOMDOOM like me when I decided to put kids in my attic 😀

    • @ozmobozo
      @ozmobozo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Like the art school teacher in Germany

    • @richardrussell7082
      @richardrussell7082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I can beat all of you .... I bought the Fallout 76 Power Armour Edition. >_

    • @harrison00xXx
      @harrison00xXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      haha true
      my biggest mistake was a 700$ GPU nearly 2 decades ago, yes in 2004 there were already close to 1000$ customer/gaming grade graphics cards. Dont think this is a weird flex, I learned my lesson, never bought overpriced crap anymore. Thats why i am not allowed to buy a new PC anymore, CPUs overpriced(yes, also the so loved Ryzens....!), GPUs and RAM heavily overpriced.
      Whats finally getting "cheap" are SSDs, especially in 2,5" SATA versions. HDDs i also should boycott, they are so expensive, even if you are only looking for a 2-4TB 3,5"....

  • @Jokkepappaification
    @Jokkepappaification 4 ปีที่แล้ว +977

    You look a bit red mate

    • @Francisco-j1e
      @Francisco-j1e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Isnt he australian? They re red over there.

    • @williewalrus
      @williewalrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      F. Teixeira British, it’s been hot recently

    • @Thatisnoneofmybusiness
      @Thatisnoneofmybusiness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      @@Francisco-j1e lol, he's from the UK, how could you mistake that accent for an aussie?

    • @spicynugget5050
      @spicynugget5050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Francisco-j1e Australian 😂bruhhhh

    • @grindererrofficial3755
      @grindererrofficial3755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spicynugget5050 fackmedeath how i also had him as australian O.o
      whats wrong with this world--

  • @theforthdoctor7872
    @theforthdoctor7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    Your reflection during the hitman section almost gave me a heart attack.

    • @neilwalker4575
      @neilwalker4575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too. I thought some strange man was creeping up on me!

    • @endame90
      @endame90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@neilwalker4575 I didn't notice the reflection until I read your comment, now I can't get away my eyes from it

    • @kagato82
      @kagato82 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. Thought I was about to get killed.

    • @mohameduwaiskhan3367
      @mohameduwaiskhan3367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bruh I'm supposed to be in online classes and I thought my dad walked into my room😂

    • @DoctorX17
      @DoctorX17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same!

  • @vehiclefreak409
    @vehiclefreak409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    I'll never understand why they do this. Just put it in a smaller enclosure rather than blocking off holes on the case.

    • @LarsMarvinTv2
      @LarsMarvinTv2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      its cheaper than creating a whole new design. Just have one case design and put in dozens of configurations means that they only have to store one model and can build any system inside them. Saves a lot of money in storage and design.

    • @tweakz_tech
      @tweakz_tech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They don't understand what case design means.

    • @danieledwards3376
      @danieledwards3376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It's a USFF PC in a normal size case, for the worst of both worlds.

    • @nathansomething4634
      @nathansomething4634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You get significant price breaks when buying tons and tons of one design versus 1/3 of three designs, etc. This is called a price break; the more you order of one thing, the cheaper they give each one for. This is because they only have to configure their factory once to make the thing and can just let it run until the order is done, rather than shutting down, reconfiguring, and starting it back up. All of that stuff in between takes time, and factory time is money.
      The manufacturer will also have an MOQ, or Minimum Order Quantity. For big custom items like this case, they may have to order 10,000+ just to get the manufacturer to make any at all. To get around this, they'd just have the needed blanking/adapter plates made somewhere else (extremely cheap) and assemble.

    • @juanpabloflores8179
      @juanpabloflores8179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Economy of scale.

  • @CasualGamers
    @CasualGamers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Some OEM motherboards also have non-atx PSU connectors. That's a pain.

    • @sgcs
      @sgcs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Boi this one is worse

    • @mg86_
      @mg86_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      at least you can get an adapter for those

    • @bitelaserkhalif
      @bitelaserkhalif 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Add salt to wound with BTX motherboard

    • @ImThico
      @ImThico 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Não esperava um comentário seu aqui

    • @mcslender2965
      @mcslender2965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sgcs Not really since adapters are readily available

  • @szab04
    @szab04 4 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    It's all good, you still have the 8 gigs of ram and a 1tb hard drive. Still a good buy if you look at this components.

    • @Doman2000
      @Doman2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yes, lot's of uses for this pc still, even you got the power adapter with it, so all is good.

    • @rhyzon
      @rhyzon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'd swap the HDD for a 120 gig SSD and voila! Cheapo office PC.

    • @odioalospoopers
      @odioalospoopers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      indeed. around here the average 1tb hdd is worth around thrice what you paid for that machine

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Better as a Linux PC

    • @batsonelectronics
      @batsonelectronics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the drive is 7 years old though and likely near end of life. Here in the USA a new WD Blue 1 TB drive is $45 from Newegg with free shipping and 2 yr warranty.

  • @telgou
    @telgou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Seller: 60fps guaranteed Hitman

    • @phantomgunz1167
      @phantomgunz1167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeap, pLAyS MoDeRn WaRfAre on HiGh 144fps+++!!!

    • @Deuteriumaddict
      @Deuteriumaddict 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@phantomgunz1167 on 4k 3 monitors no sweat

    • @wernerhaah5744
      @wernerhaah5744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      * Hitman 2 Silent Assassin from 2002.

    • @wishusknight3009
      @wishusknight3009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When someone asks me how fast my car accelerates, I say "It does Zero to sixty"... And it takes a few seconds for people to get the joke.

    • @Deuteriumaddict
      @Deuteriumaddict 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wishusknight3009 i still don't get it lol

  • @theshield2004
    @theshield2004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Someone got some sun this weekend!!!

    • @darknight474
      @darknight474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      sunburn

    • @toumpanis
      @toumpanis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Could it be high blood pressure because of his purchase?

    • @mgf909
      @mgf909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I need to get some sun lmao

    • @thealien_ali3382
      @thealien_ali3382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Someone penatrated him

  • @DoomGuy9001-MK4
    @DoomGuy9001-MK4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    If you have ever heard of a guy called Carey Holtzman, he did an in depth review on this and said some honest thoughts of what he thought of HP and their pre-built machines.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Yeah love his videos, one of the people who inspired me to start :)

    • @TheCircuitWizard
      @TheCircuitWizard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@RandomGaminginHD Could have been worse, Carey bought it brand new at the time for around $250 IIRC haha

    • @trafficracer124
      @trafficracer124 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm trying to find that video ur talking about, anyone got a link?

    • @subbookkeeper
      @subbookkeeper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah even though his machine was much worse. It was some embedded cpu that had fraction of the old Pentium 2020 performance. I guess it might've been some Atom CPU.

    • @detmer87
      @detmer87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Carey Holtzman is such a fool. Talks way too much jibberish. The most funny videos are the ones where he f*cked up and the next video he goes full defense (and how the world isn't round and so on...)

  • @VietNguyen-vj2np
    @VietNguyen-vj2np 4 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Fraps and Afterburner doesn't work because of the new csgo update that block third party program.
    You can still use net_graph console command to display FPS though.

    • @gigibecali699
      @gigibecali699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The security feature can be turned off,so your comment is 0

    • @Reecej23
      @Reecej23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You saved a life today thank you.

    • @thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813
      @thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn dude , why?

    • @aoelp
      @aoelp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gigibecali699 Or you can just run the "opensorce" version or more realistically an older cracked one.

    • @ugniusltu2968
      @ugniusltu2968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      to disable the security feature type -untrusted in the lauch options in steam

  • @Peace_Maker
    @Peace_Maker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    you can do net_graph 1 in the CS:GO console to get the in game fps counter

    • @Benjamin-ko1fg
      @Benjamin-ko1fg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or cl_showfps 1 for only framerate

    • @Chickenjump
      @Chickenjump 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or you can enable it on Steam.

    • @derickvo317
      @derickvo317 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or just do all of it on top of MSI afterburner

    • @Peace_Maker
      @Peace_Maker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derickvo317 he said MSI afterburner wasn't working

    • @huyduongquang1438
      @huyduongquang1438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derickvo317 csgo just launched its"trusted mode" so it denies any 3rd monitoring program, I recently got vac for using msi afterburner so well... net_graph 1 is the only way

  • @sushimshah2896
    @sushimshah2896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    "Let's try & get some sort of joy out of this terrible situation"
    2020-……

    • @LSK2K
      @LSK2K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The year actually started off good with the death of that Iranian guy but went to hell with the release of the virus.

    • @czrptr6849
      @czrptr6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LSK2K how can a death by a drone be good?

    • @LSK2K
      @LSK2K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@czrptr6849 it killed him, that's how.

    • @anthonyhandley446
      @anthonyhandley446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can we stop saying the year sucks

  • @zWORMzGaming
    @zWORMzGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well, at least it runs csgo with decent fps! ahaha
    BTW, to display the FPS in csgo with MSI Afterburner, you now have to start the game in untrusted mode. Just write "-untrusted" in the launch options :)

  • @DanielCardei
    @DanielCardei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    To be fair those PCs today people pay you to take it.
    They are absolutely limited but because of TH-camrs like you we can see that we can restore them and make them run basic or older games or even some older production software.
    BTW awesome video :D

    • @harrison00xXx
      @harrison00xXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, i got in end 2016 also a PC for free (from a friend, he said otherwise he throw Mainboard/CPU/Ram away xD)
      It was even a i5 4430/H87 Board and i think 8Gb slow Ram. This PC is with my older graphics card, a Radeon HD 6950 2GB still my 2nd, but actually more of a 3rd gaming rig/Multibox PC and didnt use it since over a year.
      As much i loved how "fast" the 4430 was compared to my older Phenom II X6, i still shot a cheap i7 4790k in an auction, found out the H87 Board dont like the 4790k (despite the fact it was in supported CPU list and Bios updated) and ended up with Z97 mainboard too and because of "pushing" the system to the limits also the best DDR3 ram aviable, so my 4790k easily beats a 7700k for cheap.
      If he wanted to throw away a Dualcore 2C/2T Pentium, i probably would let him throw away this useless piece of crap xD

    • @guser436
      @guser436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@harrison00xXx wtf who throws away a 4th gen i5. I would kill for that processor rn

    • @harrison00xXx
      @harrison00xXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guser436 people with too much money thinking this pc is trash xD

  • @georgep8429
    @georgep8429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    0:19 "Guy who looked into Chernobyl reactor in that one scene", colorized -1986

  • @Fireflyepic
    @Fireflyepic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also, never buy Dell Optiplex machines. Got a Dell Optiplex 360 back in the day. While it was a big case -- looked like full ATX -- it was designed in such a way that you could only put a single slot graphics card less than maybe 6 inches long in it. There was capacitors sticking out just behind the PCIe slot preventing longer cards, and it was outright lacking a PCI bracket knockout that would allow you to do double slot... be careful when buying these prebuilts. Make sure you Google pictures of their insides.

  • @Mico605
    @Mico605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Type cl_showfps 1 in CSGOs console (activated on ~ if its enabled in settings), it will give you an FPS counter in game.

    • @interstellartravel
      @interstellartravel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can enable fps display in Steam settings as well.

  • @KissesLoveKawaii
    @KissesLoveKawaii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    dear diary. Today I watched a talking tomato talk about cheapo PC.

    • @r3mus47
      @r3mus47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Says the guy with an anime profile picture, you can't judge shit.

    • @brady1863
      @brady1863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      r3m us His face is red because it’s hot that’s why they said tomato, they’re not insulting his face.

    • @unkvan-theunknown2403
      @unkvan-theunknown2403 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should have put some "jk" or something similar to reddit /s so some people doesn't get offended for other people or at least understand a joke.

    • @lauragarza1554
      @lauragarza1554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      #Redlivesmatters

    • @zirconia3
      @zirconia3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You missed it: "Today I watched a talking tomato talk about a potato."

  • @Lagged2Death
    @Lagged2Death 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I thought I knew my way around PC hardware, but I've never seen or heard of a machine that was built this way.
    So you've taught me something today! Thank you!

    • @ianweber9248
      @ianweber9248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lagged2Death It’s called thin Mini ITX and, while I’m not sure if it was ever an “official” standard, enough companies made enough hardware (Asus has listings for thin mini itx mobos as recent as the H310 chipset) around it for it to be standard enough. I can’t say I’ve seen/heard of any with standard DIMM slots though, most of the ones I’m familiar with use SODIMMs since they mount flat against the board lowering the height (think PCs built into cases similar in size to standalone DVD players) of the overall system even further.

    • @batsonelectronics
      @batsonelectronics 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started seeing them around 2009 here in the USA, many all in one machines use an external power supply as well.

  • @TheSilviu8x
    @TheSilviu8x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This is not an All in one, this is "None in one"

    • @reik019
      @reik019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's so true that it almost hurts.
      Kind of the PC kit my father bought... The board has *ONLY* a white PCI slot, but the IGD is actually quite capable (a third part of an Radeon 7 rv3, more or less)
      Well, at least it has an actual PSU, so, bonus!

  • @andreasbartel3449
    @andreasbartel3449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought one like this, a Compaq, for my wife as an office PC. It worked fine, upgraded the RAM and later swapped the CPU to the I5-3470T, which is the maximum you can go. I replaced it with an Optiplex 7010; but I think if you put in a SSD, the I5-3470T and maximum RAM, which I think was 8GB you still get a decent office PC with low power consumption. And of course it runs on Windows 10.

  • @drumsmoker731
    @drumsmoker731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Classic case of auction-bargain-fever. Never let your guard down 😁

  • @kekistanifreedomfighter4197
    @kekistanifreedomfighter4197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got an F-Greenwood ITX board with an AMD Kabani dual core APU that's pretty much exactly like that board. It was really only good for a linux box for tweaking & a dedicated KODI machine. Nice score for 8 gigs of ram & a full tower case.

  • @naws69
    @naws69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i like that he uses hand gestures. but we could only see them through the play button.

    • @lepterfirefall
      @lepterfirefall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Once you see it....you cant take your eyes off it!

  • @PearComputingDevices
    @PearComputingDevices 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your not upgrading much with that thing. I tend to stay from HP because like Acer you tend to get the bottom of the barrel hardware but at least with Acer you kinda know what your getting. Lenovo is sometimes like this too and I've seen Dells do this trickery but not very often. I tend to go for business systems anyway but HP just seems to be among the worst when it comes to buying a computer that you can significantly upgrade. Unless of course we are talking about Apple. Then that might make the top of the list these days for the least easily upgraded systems.

  • @daviidddx
    @daviidddx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    'Hello and welcome everyone, to another video. Now, the other day, I went outside....' I thought you were going to comment on the sunburn, keep up the content bro I love it!

  • @nessele
    @nessele 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I waste $300 on Acer Aspire Xc704 in 2017 , i was like wtf.
    Why Acer scam people.
    The spec :
    Pentium J3170 1.6ghz 4C/4T Temporary Boost 2.5ghz
    4gb Ddr3
    1Tb Hdd 7200rpm
    65w Laptop-like power supply
    Intel Hd 404
    When I check Acer Site , it still $300.

  • @NoFeelings..
    @NoFeelings.. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do you remember that scene from The Matrix when Neo’s mouth disappear? That’s how I felt when you showed back of that case 😂

    • @juanpabloflores8179
      @juanpabloflores8179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NoFeelings hahaha, trying to scream in horror, but you can't.

    • @NoFeelings..
      @NoFeelings.. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juan Pablo Flores That’s was exactly my reaction xd

  • @BboyADHD
    @BboyADHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YEP! This happened to my brother. He bought a prebuilt at bestbuy or somewhere for $500. AND IT WAS A LAPTOP in a case. I told him countless times that I would have built him a far better one etc. He has now since learned his lesson and asks me for help now lol.

  • @kyles8524
    @kyles8524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would pay 20 dollars for this, it would make a good machine for emulation

    • @lbsiuk
      @lbsiuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's one on eBay right now for £20.

  • @HellFire107
    @HellFire107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own this computer! Pentium G2020T & 4GB RAM. No PCI Express slot. It ran terribly with the stock hard drive & but after an SSD upgrade, it became a lot more capable. Thinking about upgrading the CPU to a 3220T and RAM to 8GB... But it's probably not worth it considering what new hardware is capable of.

  • @1337kavin
    @1337kavin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:35 scared the shit outa me idk why

  • @iamfearitself1465
    @iamfearitself1465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember doing similar but it was an Lenovo with a A8-6410 with a PCI slot and a dreaded GT-720 2GB
    Now rocking a RyZen 3700x, 16gb ram, 1TB NVME 4.0 with a X570 board and RTX-2060 so not every beginning has a bad end.
    It's just use case at the time, when I had the mistake of a pc I was literally broke and had nothing that I could game on in the slightest.

  • @jagdtigger
    @jagdtigger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If it has a wifi module you got your pci slot, just needs an adapter.....

    • @akimbofurry2179
      @akimbofurry2179 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      realy?

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still not ideal. Noplace to mount the card since the mobo is at the bottom of the case and it may well be very pci lane limited.
      In addition mini pcie slots have a few different variations and I don't think all are suited to PCIe bus adaptors.

    • @indask8
      @indask8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't see one...
      I checked IPXSB-DM on google for a closeup, no mini PCI-E on sight
      edit : datasheet from hp, no mini PCI-E :
      support.hp.com/hr-en/document/c03036757

    • @akimbofurry2179
      @akimbofurry2179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@indask8 As a tech nerd, this coment section, and dedication fills my heart with glee.

    • @jagdtigger
      @jagdtigger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheTurnipKing Not ideal, but at least it would be better than the IGP..... ;D Plus adaptors arent that expensive so it worth a shot.

  • @NumptyMcNumptyface
    @NumptyMcNumptyface 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the title, a HP desktop and just knew where it was going. Those machines aren't the worst systems out there, but that's only because of the existence of ultra cheap laptops (usually Atom/Celeron based) where the sparse RAM (usually 2GB) and storage (32GB, or 64GB if you're lucky of eMMC) are soldered on the mainboard with no upgrade path. But other than that, they are pretty dire. Still, 21 quid for the CPU, RAM, harddisk and cooler/fans isn't awful.

  • @sadp1535
    @sadp1535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be honest I am surprised that PC like this actually exists. What the hell is this PC. They did put a laptop/desktop hybrid motherboard without PCIE but with full size ram with desktop T version CPU in a full mt case. Anyway, 1Tb of HDD +8GB of ram is good enough for this price but still very kind of strange PC. Well... its HP.

  • @ddevin
    @ddevin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh God, I did a similar thing in the past. I bought a cheap, standard looking desktop with intentions of upgrading it for server-like tasks. Turns out, it was basically a laptop slapped into a desktop case. A single 4 gig SODIMM DDR3L stick, and a SOLDERED Intel Celeron. At least I made use of the ram though, by upgrading my laptop from 4 gigs to 6 gigs.

  • @JuxZeil
    @JuxZeil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not a laptop mobo, it's just one of HP's lowest tier systems. Basically a laptop chipset and socket paired with a standard desktop(but probably extremely restricted) I/O and memory subsystem.
    I would just mod the case to take an ATX, or preferably, an SFX PSU, cut out extra holes and vents for fans, and use a cheap ITX/DTX(which the original looks like to me) mobo that you could get the CPU as cheap as possible to suit the socket. 👍

  • @ryanolsen294
    @ryanolsen294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a gaming pc but for fun lol I tried hitman on my i3 Intel HD 4000 laptop and about 7-20 FPS LOL. also do u know what Intel HD that is? Because I think the best one is UHD 630. One more thing, keep up with the cool videos

  • @szabolcsmate5254
    @szabolcsmate5254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you mean? Being made of laptop parts is a benefit not a disadvantage. They have amazing power efficiency. Not great for gaming, but excellent for light office stuff.
    Also, 8G of ram in a case for £21??? Are you mad? This is great!

  • @testremote240
    @testremote240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I narrowly avoided buying something very much like this at a PC World store, only with actual laptop SODIMMs and a CPU soldered to the board. It was masquerading as a desktop and it might have fooled me had I not asked a (very helpful) sales assistant to open the side panel for me so I could check for expandability. He was as surprised as I was when we saw what was inside.
    There are a lot of these kinds of systems out there, so always do your research even when buying something that's "just for netflix".
    Also, you might be surprised at what you can get away with if you just ask nicely.

  • @martintovar6666
    @martintovar6666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a friend purchased one of those computers at Walmart, it was cheap... no normal power supply, micro architecture motherboard an AMD Zacate CPU dual core soldered to the micro motherboard, no expansion slots of any kind, and 4GB of memory running windows 10... it was horrible to say the least

  • @Joel-ew1zm
    @Joel-ew1zm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the life of me, the only reason I can think that this would exist is because they had to clear stock of micro ATX cases. This tier of hardware doesn't even belong in a small-form-factor. This is micro-desktop / budget laptop tier hardware. HP has always been notorious in my book for cutting corners like this.

  • @Aaron-iz3hk
    @Aaron-iz3hk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most HP's, in my experience, have proprietary power supplies and connectors to the boards. I "cut my teeth" repairing OEMs. Dell was better than other's and easier to upgrade but they followed HP in recent years.

  • @joeyhillers9460
    @joeyhillers9460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HPs especially bad about putting small psus in their prebuilts. My main workstation from them only has a 180w psu, and limits my upgrade options pretty far. But, it's only around the size of an Xbox One original, so it's not all bad

  • @Ungabunga2015
    @Ungabunga2015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! I had one of these as a kid! I got rid of it as soon as I really got into gaming on pc thankfully... I had the same ideas as you though until I opened it up and was significantly disappointed upon realizing there was no slot for a graphics card and figured upgrading it just wasn't worth it. I was able to play Halo CE (original) and Halo 2 on pc and some games like Zoo Tycoon and Roller Coaster Tycoon and other games that just played off a CD ROM. Good times...

  • @Nick-dc1bu
    @Nick-dc1bu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol I had that same computer as my first ever computer. During quarantine I’ve started to learn a lot more about PC’s and thought I would upgrade it, and when I opened up the side panel I felt the exact same disappointment. I’m getting rid of it as no one used it, but I did save the hard drive, fan, and DVD player so maybe this purchase wasn’t the worst mistake in the world if you also salvage those. Edit: I guess I had a slightly different model as mine had 4gb of Ram and a 500gb hard drive

  • @helloimash
    @helloimash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to try to explain why a computer company does this. In the world of office PCs, your margins and profit are absolutely key. It makes *a lot* more sense if you can produce one PC case that you can use all up and down various price categories, because your margins are much higher on one very flexible PC case vs. the whole design process of several unique cases. In this case, the hardware is likely the cheapest possible configuration available - suitable (for example) sitting under a receptionist or secretary's desk, whose IT needs are extremely basic and so the company wants to buy something as cheap as possible. For this use case, the company selling this makes the best profit because all that's really unique to this PC is the internal guts. Everything else is reused from what they already have and so their profit on each of these sold is good. Hope this is helpful, genuinely.

  • @alexferguson8893
    @alexferguson8893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a HP computer in the exact same case with a itx board with a AMD A4 5000 in it, a 15w laptop cpu. Also powered by a laptop-like brick.

  • @tuxpowerpc
    @tuxpowerpc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're not an idiot, you simply had the wool pulled over your eyes just like many other consumers have. Truthfully, in my opinion HP did this on purposely to mislead customers, and the eBay seller must not have done a good job describing what it was as they are hard to sell. HP came out several years ago with a 110 series just like that one, and I will tell you they had a history of burning up, so be aware of this. There was this large marketing sticker on the side that made the specs sound wonderful, just one issue, they never spoke of the cpu or the psu, big shocker there. It really was not even upgrade-able. They are not much better spec wise than a cheap netbook. Thanks for the honest video.

  • @pjimmbojimmbo1990
    @pjimmbojimmbo1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As another TH-cam Channeller said, "HP stands for Horrible Product". I have opened up a few HPs and found them to be assembled with some very cheap Mother Boards and Memory

  • @morantaylor
    @morantaylor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could always drill the rivets on the ATX PSU blanking plate, then use mATX board with a standard PSU to reuse the case....

  • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
    @BlueEyedVibeChecker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know the Pentium is gonna be bad, when they call it the G "2020"

  • @BarDocK_LSSJ
    @BarDocK_LSSJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CSGO has a new anti cheat so you can't display fps counter unless you disable trusted mode (but apparently that might decrease your trust factor, i dont know) But anyways you can still use net_graph 1 to display the in game fps counter.

  • @MeowO_O
    @MeowO_O 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's get the terms straight.
    It is NOT a laptop.
    It is a motherboard with unusual size somewhere between micro-ATX and ITX.

  • @georgejohnson7591
    @georgejohnson7591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At least you got the power supply with it, that would have been a bummer to have had to buy one of those too. It's obviously no use as a gaming PC, why not turn it into something else. A media server or a NAS box, something like that. It clearly works well enough within its capabilities.

  • @Badtaste21
    @Badtaste21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A few weeks ago I wanted to clean a fan in an old HP laptop and it turns out you have to disassemble the entire thing to even get there. I didn't want to take the time, so I used a vacuum cleaner and tried my best. It seems to have worked, at least it's cooler now, but it's still sad HP doesn't care about maintainability. Needless to say, I don't like HP. But I'm not a fan of especially these OEMs in general. They are part of the reason why we have so much e-waste and I despise this mentality.

  • @KenjiTech
    @KenjiTech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah, my friend michi got the same PC, and she hated it for always taking forever to do anything.
    the shitty CPU is one thing, but having windows 8 pre-installed on a slow 1.5 tb HDD sure did not help speeds at all.
    replacing the HDD with an SSD and running a light linux instead of windows would have helped a lot already but we wanted to make that computer be fun to use, not just "ok-ish"
    so i ripped the guts out of this case alltogether and drilled out those four riveted bolts that hold the cover for the PSU hole in place.
    then i put some A320 mainboard, an athlon 200GE and a proper PSU in there. ... unfortunately this was the last video i did in quite a while ... there was a followup planned but i'm just too busy and it just doesn't stop :-(
    the computer is working fine tho ...

  • @randomplayer6461
    @randomplayer6461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i did this mistake a while ago. i was thinking a 4 core pentium (J2900), 8gb of ram and a 1tb hdd was all good and i was just going to put a cheap gpu in it but nope it was one of these

  • @MrChriss000
    @MrChriss000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats the major prob with those pc's, when the general public look at the specs and the box there is no warning its just lappy guts and not upgradeable.
    It is deliberate ploy to make people think its a bargain.

  • @rended
    @rended 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For future benchmarks with CS:GO: The new anti-cheat Valve has in place makes it (in my experience) difficult to monitor system components using programs that use an external overlay. That being said, you can still enable a frame counter from the Steam settings while using the steam client in order of Steam>Settings>In-Game located in the top left of the client window.

  • @DM_2145
    @DM_2145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who still games on a laptop with an Intel UHD 620, those graphics aren't so foreign to me really..

  • @StalwartGamingFromYouTube
    @StalwartGamingFromYouTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I once had a pentium G2020 and to be honest it was one of the terrible processor to game on.... Currently using a used i5 3570 and everything is much better in terms of performance than what I used to get out of that old crap......

  • @MrChris7582
    @MrChris7582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i did the same exact thing with hp but it was an amd a8 chip on a laptop mother board... it was a couple years ago. watch out for HP they do funny things that dont make sense.

  • @sirkastic
    @sirkastic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will you also make a video about your mistake in being a Limey Brit and going out in the sun without sun-factor 5 million?

  • @gentarofourze
    @gentarofourze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair, it may be a good pc for everyday use such as 1080p TH-cam, and better than a laptop in that sense, even before the current situation in the world laptop prices would go from cheap one minute to expensive the next and I know people who just want something to word process and stream.

  • @LOC-Ness
    @LOC-Ness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a Compaq that was basically the same model but with an AMD apu and I opened it up t see if I could upgrade it only to find out the same thing you did. Now I don't trust half of all desktops from the big brands because of it.

  • @matg3802
    @matg3802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should try some emulators on it. And one of the best ways to get smarter is to allow yourself to make mistakes and take the learning experience as a win👍

  • @TechnoLadz
    @TechnoLadz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the problem is is that the iGPU only has 256MB dedicated to it, if you tried it with 512MB or 1GB it may perform better

  • @siemasz2492
    @siemasz2492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would never buy a PC on Ebay without a photo of the case with an open panel.You can't even open a case with Ebay.

  • @BM1620
    @BM1620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate your honesty, definitely an impulse buy, but hey things happen! You're knowledgeable enough to salvage the situation, like ya said it still wasn't a bad purchase for the HDD and RAM alone.

  • @emiplays4044
    @emiplays4044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want an fps counter to show up in csgo you need to enable the console in game options and then type cl_showfps 1 into the console

  • @cardboardsnail
    @cardboardsnail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not that bad. A cheap, basic Ivy Bridge PC in good condition.

  • @farawaythrower
    @farawaythrower 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to have a system like this, and god, it was a piece of trash. I'm so glad I got rid of it.

  • @alexmcd378
    @alexmcd378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have tripped me up too. Never seen a laptop board in a desktop form like that. Weird

  • @MudSluggerBP
    @MudSluggerBP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah I’ve got one of these sort of, a hp110 with an i3-3240T. Thankfully I checked before buying and was ok with the lack of expandability as I was just after a system to shove a 60gb ssd in and run Ubuntu for some cheap fairly quick web surfing 👍🏻. Added an extra 4gb of ram to the 4 it came with and got a fairly nippy machine for £25 😁

  • @YourPersonalGeek
    @YourPersonalGeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought an Optiplex with an i5, 8GB of RAM, 1TB HDD for $50 USD and thought I was getting a steal...I completely breezed by the shipping cost apparently that was set at $80! We ALL make mistakes and mine is even more amateur then yours but still goes to show we all screw up every once in awhile and that's perfectly OK

  • @Thrakus
    @Thrakus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dell was huge on that putting there old labtop stock into small pc cases.

  • @logancraig4234
    @logancraig4234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, a PC like that, I'd still buy cause I can fix it up a little and donate it to someone in need!

  • @danesd.g6505
    @danesd.g6505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    never buy Hp prebuilts older than 2015 its a pain in the ass

  • @rolandholczer2260
    @rolandholczer2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean, for 20 pounds.. it's still a good deal?

  • @MadIIMike
    @MadIIMike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I come across such things, I usually downgrade to 4GB Ram and sell it as power efficient multimedia/office PC, at least here in Germany some people dig the idea of low power consumption on PCs... meanwhile me using old Dual Xeon Servers and GPU like the GTX 680.
    PS: Kinda unrelated, but I recently came across the dumbest Error I've ever encountered. The PC would sometimes restart or lag out during windows installation and I went trough all sort of troubleshooting regarding ram and so on. Guess what the culprit was? The (working) Power LED connected as part of the front panel connector was on it's way out or had some cable damage I didn't notice. I just had to cut the wires and the PC kept working fine (I tested it without the front panel connector).

  • @gdx128
    @gdx128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never had a G2020 tea, how does it taste like?

  • @mattparker9726
    @mattparker9726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OEM HP= super locked down bios. Limited upgrade path, possible whitelist on the GPU.

  • @darklight5316
    @darklight5316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where do you buy these old games like black ops ?

  • @ayovenom9906
    @ayovenom9906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: can I get a gaming pc?
    Mom: we have a gaming pc right here
    The gaming pc right here;

  • @IvanOoze1990
    @IvanOoze1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I goof up with like 30% of my ebay tech buys because I'm such a cheapskate and pay the price for it.

    • @IvanOoze1990
      @IvanOoze1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But I wouldnt call this a fail, you got some ram, and a hdd and the rest is just extra. The plate where the psu should have been would be nice for blocking out light if you wanted to grow weed inside of it..jk case sorta upsets me though because just like the motherboard it has no expansion options..

  • @splitz7961
    @splitz7961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bruh its better than my whole setup yet costs so much less

  • @Thommygun-qv7um
    @Thommygun-qv7um 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just take a dremel and make a sleeper out of it ;-)

  • @desmo998rr
    @desmo998rr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone's mum?. Have you seen my mother playing Battlefield?, and i'm 49.
    lol

  • @Kraeter
    @Kraeter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the facial hair looks good on you mate, keep it

  • @jihasmin8269
    @jihasmin8269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You look like bezhinga before he buffed up.

  • @HeltonsComputerRepair
    @HeltonsComputerRepair 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally just repaired this exact same model from a bad HDD.

  • @jaimenbrunson1652
    @jaimenbrunson1652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the same exact one and I was pissed when I looked at the inside realizing there was no PCIe slot

  • @Legitti
    @Legitti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steam has own fps counter... And csgo too with console command cl_showfps 1

  • @notifykoplz4876
    @notifykoplz4876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoever made that slide show you did so good

  • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
    @BlueEyedVibeChecker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be fair, I too, have made this mistake.
    Only difference is, I bought my Lenovo Thinkcentre thinking I'd make a mini Media PC, but not only does it lack PCI-e slots, it's a Pentium E2160 with SODIMM RAM, PLUS it uses an Intel GMA GPU chip...
    ... and since the board only supports 2GB per SODIMM slot, it barely manages to emulate Sega MegaDrive games with more than 20FPS...
    *Now it's being used as a doorstop*

  • @noelienoelie8425
    @noelienoelie8425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legit or did the seller make it himself?

  • @mar1xo
    @mar1xo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That thumbnail is a meme 😂