@@abm5119 lol u can get a FlexDelivery address from Canada Post or get a PO box, and if u wanna be extra sneak, u can get one a distance away from where u are
They're literally just used... That's it used and cleaned up there's nothing special about this. eBay has a massive used CPU market, I know I used to sell hundreds of CPUs a month for a job. They all get bought by companies that ship them to China so they can be "refurbished" and sold to the massively growing Chinese computer parts parts market or passed off as "Open Box", "Seller-refurbished", "New" to Americans on eBay and Amazon. There's plenty of high-end stuff like this being turned over for the used market as well I can't count how many times engineering companies or IT companies would just bring us pallets of used components and work station computers that were 2-3 years old and perfectly working. Strip it down and sell it for parts to a Chinese re seller, they buy them as soon as the ad is posted.
@@impledob69 X299 was such a colossal failure though. It was not a very compelling upgrade for current HEDT users until the HCC models came out, but that many cores is worthless for gaming, which became double moot once Coffee Lake came out. The HCC models were grossly price inefficient, leaving only professional power users who need every ounce of muscle they can get their hands on, and XOC enthusiasts. There is no doubt ridiculous amounts of Skylake-X CPUs just laying around everywhere.
Windows 11 support: NO The price of the CPU after my comment: Quarters Citation: docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
@@Mr.Morden but windows 11 doesnt even look that good, honestly might just stay on windows 10 for a couple of years until windows 11 becomes more attractive.
The damage seems consistent with what in the firearms ammunition world is known as "Factory seconds", where there is superficial damage and blemishes caused by mishaps on the assembly line/ packaging conveyor, but everything still functions correctly so it is shipped out at a lower (but still profitable) price.
@@samgoff5289 the time and effort to do that, isnt worth the returns, they will tell you so themselves, amd sent me a factory second that was a 3 model range upgrade over what i had, asked if it was ok that its IHS wasnt pristine... i could have waited another 2-3 weeks for an exact retail package replacement but... the factory 2nd they sent showed no signs on the pins of ever having been tested let alone used... the top had some dings very much like these, i didnt care... it didnt effect the perf...and they extended the warranty to full again like i bought a new chip from them since i accepted the 2nd.... even though it was an upgrade. and "why dont they just buff it down and re-coat/etch it?" would f-of the tolerances making cooler mounting pressure a problem, also... time and cost vs reward. its just not worth the time and effort it would take to re-cap them... also how i got several videocard upgrades, 8800gt to 8800gts512mb for example... 8800gt cooked itself, 2nd one did the same no oc at all on either, bfg jeff sent me a gts 512mb thats cooler was scuffed to shit... when i told him how happy i was.... he was like "i was concerned you may find that offputting" its like...nobody could see it so.. wtf does it matter.... double ram, and a gtx equiv chip...just had to put up with scuffed plastic where somebody tried to remove the stickers using what im am guessing was a dollar store razor scraper...
@@samgoff5289 That's not worth the time. The machines that assemble the CPU are designed to glue an IHS on, not to remove one and scrape off all the leftover silicone adhesive. Replacing it would have to be done by hand. It would take roughly 30 mins from an experienced worker to remove an IHS and clean it up. Afterwards, they can toss it back on the line and have the machines repaste and reglue it. The issue is, it risks destroying an otherwise viable product if any delidding mishaps occur. It won't be worth the investment to build specialized equipment just to delid their own CPUs for the handful of working rejects like these.
i'm focusing on the "small scratches and dents" part of this whole thing for this theory: Back when i was working building washing machines and fridges, if one of these had one of these imperfections on the visual part of it, it would cost more to disassemble it and change the part than selling it around half price (being not listed, of course). I don't know how can this apply to the processor, how hard it is to replace the lid, or how much time and effort it would take, but this is the first thing that came into my mind. The chips are still being made, and some here and there will come non-perfect for retail selling.
@@jacobleeson4763 the listing didn't sell out and it's coming back, it ended. Intel are confirmed as watching these videos. Intel watched it and the listing was shut down. The most likely scenario is these were stolen legit retail chips and Linus just blew the deal. LTT should just not cover these kinds of things, if people are too scared to take a chance on their own that's their loss.
I don't think that makes sense logically because if the issue was simply due to cosmetic damage to the IHS, then all they need to do is put on a different IHS. It would be cheaper to keep making more IHS's than to heavily discount a ton of chips just to sell them. They aren't really special since the lettering on them is all lasered onto them after the fact. And the same IHS is used on a ton of different chips, so you just pull another one from the pile.
@@gerhardsmith7892 or 11th gen is also a good option. In my third world country, an i5 11400f is actually 5 dollars cheaper than a 10th gen one currently.
About a year ago I bought a "brand new sealed in box" 6850K from an ebay seller who was very clear that the chip was not under warranty. But when I checked with Intel, they said it was under warranty and did an RMA when the chip turned out to be a dud. When I told the seller, he got really mad probably because he was shipping them from China where Intel was selling them brand new. He probably didn't want Intel to find out what he was doing.
Most of the biggest thieves are actually vendors to the company. A vendor employee works with his family or friends to divert some of the product they are producing for the OEM. Years ago worked on a team that developed an application for Microsoft to be able to track how many copies (back when software went on DVD's and came in shrink-wrapped packages) of Windows, MS Office, etc., were being produced by their vendors vs. what was being reported to MS. Turned out most of the counterfeit MS software floating around was from the vendors that MS was paying to burn the disks and shrink-wrap the package. They were running millions of extra copies and selling them without paying royalties to MS.
Those are actually "Bad Order" from Intel. Someone from the inside, damaged it intentionally then they can sell it at low cost for consumers to enjoy. I don't mind, as long its working but they are pretty old ~ 🐭
not that it really matters, wait a few more years, grab a 109x0 chip and be happy at the easy upgrade path... also.... considering how well this old x5675 overclock holds up gaming... yeah... outside the 12900 lineup, intels been fairly stagnant for quite a while... at times even having perf drop back vs the previous gen... just less noteworthy since it wasnt as bad as with some amd products of the past.
could have been the chips that were below intel's standards that got chucked into a bin, then someone went to take those bins home and tested them 1 by 1 before selling them
I’m guessing that since the i9 platform is supposed to be pc equivalent of owning a megayacht that intel didn’t sell any slightly damaged cpus back when they were brand new, and now are offloading them at the discount price.
@@CodeBroRob I almost have the same idea, but when the original seller was selling in bulk he just tossed them into a container and didn't bother with shipping material so they all shook inside scratching each other up
Win 11 is just a new skin. Its not a new windows. So it does not really matter that win 11 doesnt support 7th gen. Also win 10 and linux support 7th gen
The i9-7940x at $389 might look good, but it actually performs overall worse than the Ryzen 7 3800x which you can currently get new in box for $343. The higher number of cores doesn't really matter if your cores are significantly slower.
this didnt aged well tho a 7820x destroyed my then 5700G so noep hehe helps if you dudes actually use the shit youre talkin about rather then trust benchmarks all the time which is painfull nowe ive got a 10940x and boy am i in heaven oh btw also with 256gig of ram, can you dudes do that on your mainstream system? nope, do you have quadchannel? and tons pf PCIE lanes? nope so a 3800x would be grandmas pc gfor what you use an X299 systme for and ive had a 3800x so theres that :)
I was about to say that. Worldwide chip shortage and intel is rolling these ancient things out of the silicon factories under the table.... doesn’t make much sense.
i deal with a lot of bulk and weird cpus often, and can say the small dings and marks all over the chip and even in spots that are bizarre, are because at some point in it's life, for some reason, they were all "thrown into a box/bin/something" together without care for if they were damaged. whatever reason this is could be many, but the intention was for them to be disposed of or recycled, and somehow someone came along and found a way to keep them, and knew most of them could still work, and flipped them. they were free for the seller, or mostly so.
This sounds like the most plausible explanation. Sometimes in the 2nd hand market people handle things they have no idea what they are or how careful to handle them. Like ram sticks, they can be just thrown in a box in bulk.
@@xxvodanhxx indeed, i deal with a HUGE amount of this stuff, and have for over 2 decades, heh. through all that time, the ONLY cpus i've come across with such very specific damage, were from such case, and nothing else, hehe. it's the "what and where" we can never know...
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I know this is a joke, but that's an 18 core 36 thread god spec cpu. And it's a skylake. So one of those for only $400 with barely visible minor scratches is a great deal.
@@dy7296 not really as linus explained. If youre gonna fold for probably 24/7 you want a more efficient part. saving 200 bucks on intel would cost that in electricity in like 2 years of 24/7 fold. While amd would pay for itself in that time. Newer features. Less vulnerabilities. Runs cooler
5:37 I have my own thesis to that. They fell of the back of a truck. Would explain the scratches even though they weren't mounted anywhere. Maybe they were very briefly to ensure they work
@@privateger Maybe the backdoor is missing? And case it wasn't clear: My comment was a joke with "fallen of the back of a truck" as a euphemism for being stolen...
@@MrMegaPussyPlayer Ah, right. Yeah, I agree with that. It's probably someone scratching the CPUs themselves and making the less guarded discard pile disappear.
@@Real_MisterSir personally if it wasn't for the god awful look i would actually be keen on using it for a year due to the direct storage feature, i tried the leaked version and it actually did increase the fps vs win10, but that being said, that's one of the few positive points and they only reside in the mechanisms which, by the way, may decrease due to other stuff getting added including bloatware so far i got my mind set on either Arch Linux or Manjaro
@@BirnenBaer pssssht let them sheeps be, they flame you you talk bs when you redirect them to the text above the site with all the supported cpu for os X sites.
if i had to take a wild guess, they are actually used, and are coming out of china's crypto mining farms. they were either used for mining monero, or they were used in 12+ gpu rigs. timing coincides to well with china's crack down on mining.
Linus does say the CPUs are in less used state considering the IHS state or the bent PCB that was, ig, common with those CPUs. But hey, you never know.
@Nephilimn So the theory that Linus said could be possible, or those could be rejected CPU not because they didn't work, but because they failed the visual inspection with all of those scratches and blemishes, so they could be just thes CPU that Intel had in storage and instead of dispose of them they just sold them, or they could be CPU that maybe where going to be disposed but the employees just keep them and sold them.
"......these chips are a steal, and they are real, that's the deal. Now I feel....." Ah! The writer's choice of words is so satisfying and rhyming, like JAKE really deserves a shout-out now!!!
Thanks, Linus! Last January I bought an Alienware R11 RTX 3080, I opted for the Intel Core i7 which saved me about $600 compared to the Core i9 option. I've been assembling my own PC gaming rigs since 1987 and this was only my second pre-built desktop since then. Both were Alienware PCs too. I wanted an RTX3080 but due to COVID and scalpers, they were only available for about 3X the retail cost. I bought an entire gaming rig from Alienware for about $500 more than what eBay was selling the RTX3080 for last January!
@@nathaniel1207 I agree.The Alienware R11 is extremely hard to disassemble and the components are all terrible...just not the gpu and cpu. Edit:It's also VERY expensive for it's components,so that's another reason to avoid it.
not very important, for a server it wouldnt be running windows 99% of the time, windows 11 supported means absolutely nothing since by the time its released someone will find a way to bypass the check for safeboot, one of which has already been found
Actually, they are supported. I happen to own an i7 7820X which I bough back in 2017 and after enabling PTT in the bios Windows reports TPM 2.0 and the PC health check for W11 passes. :-)
Most ebay sellers use the term "refurbished" for legal reasons. It basically voids the manufacturer full warranty and liability in case of catastrophic damage to a home or business like fire, equipment damage, etc.... Also, refurbished could mean MANY things, it doesn't have to be used to qualify for the description
I've been running one of these "scratch 'n' dent" chips in my main VFIO workstation for a few months. I wanted to do a 2970WX or 2990WX build but used parts were cost-prohibitive and X399 motherboards with good reviews are few and far between. If you need lots of cores, memory bandwidth, and PCIe lanes, it's hard to beat! I only paid $319 for my 7960X before tax and shipping but I'm sure prices are going to skyrocket now.
Not true, if you take a look into the seller's other listings, it's at the top. 7980xe, 7960x, 7940x etc. They're all there just under a different listing. Also the 7980xe sold out.
But win 10 still supports it And win 11 is just a new skin. And if you are someone who is serious about buying this, you probably dont care about skins and aesthetics
It's sad, but true. Windows 11 requires 8th Gen. or newer. These are 7th Gen. So, anyone buying these thinking they're going to have a fancy new Windows 11 workstation; will be very disappointed when they run the compatibility checker on their fancy new workstation.
Yes it can. Technically Windows 10 doesn’t support fourth gen or older Intel chips, but we know they can run just fine. Windows 11 is more complicated with the whole TPM thing, but if the motherboard is supported (which it is,) I don’t see how it wouldn’t run.
This video was released an hour ago. Of the CPUs listed in the description, the first one is out of stock with 95 units sold, the second has 22 sold in the last hour, and the last one has 6 sold in the last hour.
I just got a 7800X from this seller, it works perfectly fine. I'm writing this at the moment with it overclocked to 4.7ghz on a X299 Micro I picked up for $100 when EVGA was clearing them out. It does pretty nicely for itself in Solidworks, especially with the quad-channel memory.
Love my 7940X! Sure, binned chip and paid a lot more than $450 a couple years ago but it's certainly no slouch for processing and doing all the things! Awesome that you're able to find basically EoL parts still being sold for the cheap though.
I bought that CPU Pillow and my cats LOVE it. My cats literally queue up to lie down on that pillow. As soon as one moves to drink/eat, the second one gets on there. There is no other pillow they love so much.
Thumbnail: 'Core i9 Extreme 80% Off' - Must be fake That's like back in the Conroe days when everyone would just OC their ~$200 CPU to the X6800 levels and save hundreds of dollars.
@@hashhacker2130 Back in the day multi-core CPUs were just becoming a thing, and only some CPU models had SMT. As a result CPUs were segregated by clock speed and cache. Overclocking wasn't officially acknowledged either, so for normal consumers you paid a lot for a little more clock. Since there was always over clocking headroom on the top sku, a lower tier bin could easily be overclocked to the top sku, or sometimes beyond. So enthusiasts would typically buy the cheapest sku with the max cache, and overclock it to run at the same speeds of the flagship saving hundreds of dollars.
Thanks fellow Lower Mainlander, I had to look around but I found a New, in the box, i9-9900X for $460 Canadian, all in. Found it in Europe. Already had an ASUS ROG X299-E Board.
@@josephgaetano6751 but isnt nessessarlely better as i know both chips the 12600k is better but not but all that much bout 30% if you will , also you got quadchannel on a 99x and can put 2 or 3 cards in there so in workloads like videorendering it woudl destroy a system with a 12600k in it ;) and gaming is still very VERY good to the point where you will not baughter with a 12600k obviously :)
It was not a bad chip at all, just pretty much abuseively priced, and Intel really cocked up X299's rollout at the start VROC dongles are stupid still as well.
They are probably from a waste treatment facility. I knew someone that worked in one when Currys merged with PC World in the UK (mid to late 2016 saw 134 stores close due to merging) and they dumped all of their excess stock and ex-display models due to lack of room. They also get a decent tax write off when they are sent to a treatment centre. All in all we ended up with nearly 2TB of ECC Buffered DDR3 (16GB modules), approximately 50 i5 3330's, several complete desktops (quite a few fairly new i5 and i7 units), loads of 22/24" ex display monitors, and 3 servers that were running dual 6 core/12 thread Xeons. There were also several 65" signage displays of which we grabbed just the one (they are crazy heavy). I think we ended up making around £10k selling that lot, all of which was destined to be scrapped for minimal metal and gold value when it ALL worked. Yes, not a single part was dead. The only thing we didn't get was hard drives as they were physically destroyed before arrival. We did however end up with half a dozen Intel 180GB 2.5" SSDs that were somehow overlooked. They were completely blank though which is fairly quick and easy to do with an SSD.
4:14 That damage on the chips is probably someone working at intel, knows that if the chip is superficially damaged it probably gets written off and disposed. Then they just go swoop them up.
Friend works at Intel and insinuated you can barely walk out with an extra ballpoint pen, so I don't think that's the case even if these are considered "trash" by them.
@@bruiserdotcom It might depend though. Some other people might have found a way, not everyone works in the same position as your friend. Sounds like a good theory to me.
@@albertnoble2727 I'm assuming it's the same process for these chips, as this is the case with a lot of other hardware products in general. Everything with the same form factor is produced on the same line. Then a same from each batch goes through QC and sorted into different tiers, for examples sake say high, medium, low, and not fit for sale. High would be the highest quality product so everything from that batch is assembled, loaded, and sold as the best from that model. Another sample batch from that same line but made at a different time all test sub par to the highest quality. So even though they're the same chip, different software that throttles it will be loaded and it will be sold as the middle quality product. Same happens for low. Not fit for sale is probably a batch of chips that got messed up scraped or dinged somewhere along the line. Even though these may work and be perfectly fine the company doesn't want to tarnish their rep by selling products that aren't top tier. Even if they officially sold them as a gamble people might be buying those for cheap rather than their top of the line product. So they dump them in a bin and sell it for scrap to someone or auction them off or something. That's what I'm thinkin. These are just chips the company labeled not fit for sale and sell in bulk to someone so they can rebrand or sell cheap. Alternatively, these could also be all the chips that went through the QC sampling process. So they might work but they're no longer brand new and can't be sold as such
@@albertnoble2727 you are not walking out of Intel with CPU's in your pocket. the place is locked down better than fort knox to stop anyone taking anything like designs out for competitors.
@@PimpDaddyStyles assuming intel doesn't keep superficially damaged chips inside the factory forever, it can be possible to claim the chips from wherever they're disposed. There are quite a lot of possibilities. Read Matt's comment.
Ok, so if we're going with the theory that Intel is still making these at one of their fabs, then why do they have the weird pattern of superficial damage? Is it just the packaging? They just throw them in boxes bulk and they get random scratches?
I used to work in a factory making steering gears. The compani I'd basically (though not technically) owned by Toyota and the lines I worked on make steering gears for Toyota. The company doesn't officially make any parts for anybody other than the car manufacturers, even their service parts are sold to the the car manufacturers to be used at the dealerships for recall and service replacement purposes (though the company I worked for had only had 1 recall in almost 30 years). Well I added up how many likes the one Toyota plant had and how many cars one line could push out in an 8 hour period... around 72 per line if they were running flawlessly. So in the ballpark of about 350-450 cars per 8 hours realistically. And Toyota had weekends off. Not union but basically union, they didn't work weekends. We worked almost every weekend for almost 2 years and out production demand was 600/8hrs. So the numbers didn't add up. Well after a little asking around someone said that if Toyota encounters a minor blemish that will not effect the performance or integrity or safety of the gear, many times, instead of going a quality/performance report, jumping through all the hoops, sending it back to us and sending us a bill for their production loss and their engineering team tearing the thing apart; many times they would take it off, grind off the company logos and sell it to one of the bargain bin companies that sell replacement steering gears to the autoparts stores. Also, even though there wasn't a high demand for our steering gears because it was rate that any failed, still the autoparts stores needed gears to sell (especially for the older models and stuff that isn't really made anymore, such as manual gears and column steering assymblies) so... Basically, these gears need to be on the market for end consumers to buy, but technically we're the only ones who can make them and replacement parts for them, unless Toyota opened a contract with another manufacturer but then would have to get approval from us, Yada yada..Yada... to avoid a big headache and potential legal battles, basically the company I worked for would sell excess gears to Big Box Bargain Distributor A who would take them, grind off our companies Logo and put them in their own box, and Toyota woukd act like they didnt know. Sure we wouldn't make NEARLY (not even half) as much on them as compared to selling to Toyota. But, keep in mind, they need only about 1200/day abd 5 days a week (6000/wk). So the slave house I worked for could slave drive their workers for 95/pph 6-7 days a week and any extra is gravy money. These very same CPUs in the video would be even cheaper yet if Intel acid washed the etching off the CPUs and sent them out like that. They could still be marketed as the same product but with no warranty or anything involved. But they're smart. They know they can get more per each if they leave the etching on. Pretty much the only reason why the company I used to work for would send the gears somewhere that would remove the logo and sell it under another brand is liability. There's little risk and liability with a CPU, they're faulty all the time, in fact the cheap factory thermal compound in them almost garuantees that a customer will be coming back in a little over years for a new one when it burns out (leave it up to leGal Bits (anagram for the former CEO of intel) to carefully implement just a small degree of planned obsolescence to ensure a returned customer. However when it comes to steering gears there's no way to know when and where it will fail or whom it will injur or kill when it does. Part of why I took my job and quality so seriously. So fir a steering gear company you want to keep your name off it, if it isn't technically and officially from you. So in summary, it doesn't surprise me that they are new and legitimate.
I wanted to say that this heat wave has made me appreciate just how awesome the LTT water bottles are. They are amazing at keeping water cool. Although I did learn my lesson, make sure to put the water in the fridge in a different container and only fill the bottle with cold water.
Many years ago, a small computer shop I worked for got about 100 pentium III socket 370 processors, for like $25 a piece. All the packaging was gone, and they were in plastic clamshells in trash bags. Apparently the shipping container they were in was damaged, leaked, and the shipper's insurance covered the whole container. And then the contents were salvaged and sold by the dock workers. Maybe it's something like that?
They wont be supported for windows 11 so they're mass selling them before people start noticing it for security issues. I think this is the best reason for this i think.
Or maybe what happened was that they were defective in manufacturing, so one of the cores died, then they just deactivated another core and sold an 18 core CPU as a 16 core.
Or they are "grey market". Reported lost of damaged beyond repair in shipping. Now being sold on eBay. You can buy one only to find Intel says "that was stolen" and refuse to support it. Very common with things like hard drives, memory, etc. Used to work for a major maker of computer monitors & TV's. We routinely got "warranty returns" for units that had been reported "stolen in transit." At that point we not only didn't repair it under warranty, we didn't even return it to the person since it was stolen property.
The 7980 has a cumulative benchmark / Sysmark of close to 30 000. Thats insane for the money. As a video processor or renderbox its well worth the money.
@@wormer66 off you guys look too muc hat benchmarks but no it would loose badly, no 256gig of ram no quadchannel and not a trillion PCIE lanes where u can put in idk 3 GPUS and tripple or quadruple your outpu like with davinci resolve so hell nope, his system properly setup for videoeediting yould blow your 13700k hard, gamign it be the other way arround but not by that much tho, especially X299 systems have a special very low input latency and all that stuff ;)
Probably leftovers from tray orders. I've experienced tray ordering and it usually datacenters or office buildings full of CAD engineers. When ordering server processor upgrades or workstation upgrades by the tray it is usually done in bulk by companies with massive staff and multiple branch offices. They are usually distributed in tray form and not accounted for on a per chip basis and extras end up laying around on tech benches. This is the most likely scenario and would explain the scratches. It could also be from decommissioned server hardware, and those don't normally use standard type mounting hardware.
Companyes: put out insanelly overprized product, make tons of profit, then put it at a normal prize and call it a discount this dude: how is this so cheap?
If only! I have a feeling MS will soon try to force everyone to update to its new Chrome OS Lookalike. Their real agenda is probably to force manufacturers to enable secure boot and TPM by default.
@@EvanOfTheDarkness I think the point is how they just make Windows 10X into 11 and tell everyone they will be dropping support for what they call the last operating system
@@wcdvtr Well, the new UI looks really dumbed down, and not somethin I'd use. I think its time we port KDE to windows, and just replaced the UI as a whole...
0:14 “hello! I’m a little scam”
I totally fell down and lost it 🤣
@be good I always see theses links…
So you nearly fell for the scam? :P
@@blackmessa5982 it got removed now oof
OMG I GOT THE PIN FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER FROM LINUS! Probably because I’m a graphics card.
i did NOT see that coming
Everyone's gansta, until the eBay i9 shows up as an Intel Core i8 in Task Manager
Very true
Here before this comment gets more likes than views than the video
EDIT : bruh 3.2k likes in like 2hrs
EDIT :6.3k
Seems like all the self advertisers found a comment to hide in
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CSGO Players:
"Is Linus AFK again"
"He is doing another benchmark for his video"
@@ilovefunnyamv2nd joke aside, I think he's having match with bots
Oh sorry I mentioned accidentally
I told him to go b never came back
he isn't benchmarking, that is his ingame performance when he tries
Nahhh, He just selling pillows
HK seller: *checks address* ... Linus...."Send the real ones to this address" 😉
True I’m gonna change my name to Linus to get real stuff
I have to imagine all it takes is a google maps search of the delivery address...
@@abm5119 yeah but they wont do that for every order
@@abm5119 lol u can get a FlexDelivery address from Canada Post or get a PO box, and if u wanna be extra sneak, u can get one a distance away from where u are
Linus' address is Linus? lmfao
2.3 million views later that eBay seller is driving a Rolls-Royce wraith right now.
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Ay It's You!
Can you you just keep doing the car flip videos, they are so entertaining and helpful!
Supply and demand baby 👌🏼
Sratches all over on the CPUs? They are special, pre-dropped editions :D
Tailor made for Linus
Plot twist: They're all retail samples used and then returned by Linus
Trust me once it leaves the factory and meets the mail service.... Its all mishandled
They got that damage when they "fell off the truck"...
They are 7800 series, they are not even close to new. They are pre used
I feel like the real sponsor of this video is the eBay seller.
and he didn't figure it out.. just unsubscribed
He's all sold out on these 3
😂😂 u might gonna get 2 thousands like for this comment 😅
@@alexmckoy8898 what?
@@alexmckoy8898 well it works
Linus: "Ton of them available..."
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EBay: Sold Out
this. will. happen.
@@esatd34 it did happen
@@wildpants9347 Nope still on there, even 10980xe's for $400
@@blazer666del they are still Sold out .... dient he say something like *they'll restock
@@blazer666del I wanna buy that, do you know where? I can't see any for that price
Well there goes the cheap pricing and availability
It's only been 40mins get one now
@@Isaiahsucre they go in like .5 seconds
There still there calm down!
Edit...and their....gone lmao
@@yachampgaming5501 fake news alert
These prices make the Zen 3 cpus look like a scam
disappointed linus didn't lick the CPU saying it tastes like a scam
Holy s*it didn't expect this to blow up, thanks for the likes
how's your relationship with your father
Sweet home Alabama intensifies
He would have done that if COVID wasn't a thing.
@@badnation1776 yo that’s actually such a epic concept
@@Graphics_Card wtf u ppl talking about
I love these weird finds way more than normal builds lol
Same
Same
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if they were so easy to find they wouldn't be weird finds anymore
Linus: “There are a ton of them“
Ebay: Nope, you won’t get me
Ebay: Just kidding.
"There's tons of them available"
Scalpers: you mean there *were* tons*
watch as they're more common than Pentium 4s and they are unable to buy them all and lose all their money.
The UK: you know the rules it’s time to die
They're literally just used... That's it used and cleaned up there's nothing special about this. eBay has a massive used CPU market, I know I used to sell hundreds of CPUs a month for a job. They all get bought by companies that ship them to China so they can be "refurbished" and sold to the massively growing Chinese computer parts parts market or passed off as "Open Box", "Seller-refurbished", "New" to Americans on eBay and Amazon. There's plenty of high-end stuff like this being turned over for the used market as well I can't count how many times engineering companies or IT companies would just bring us pallets of used components and work station computers that were 2-3 years old and perfectly working. Strip it down and sell it for parts to a Chinese re seller, they buy them as soon as the ad is posted.
@@impledob69 X299 was such a colossal failure though. It was not a very compelling upgrade for current HEDT users until the HCC models came out, but that many cores is worthless for gaming, which became double moot once Coffee Lake came out. The HCC models were grossly price inefficient, leaving only professional power users who need every ounce of muscle they can get their hands on, and XOC enthusiasts. There is no doubt ridiculous amounts of Skylake-X CPUs just laying around everywhere.
The price of this cpu after this video: *Quintuples*
But that's msrp again.
Bobux
Windows 11 support: NO
The price of the CPU after my comment: Quarters
Citation: docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
@@Mr.Morden but windows 11 doesnt even look that good, honestly might just stay on windows 10 for a couple of years until windows 11 becomes more attractive.
I wouldn't reccomend it anyways. AMD has cheaper options that are way faster while drawing less power.
The damage seems consistent with what in the firearms ammunition world is known as "Factory seconds", where there is superficial damage and blemishes caused by mishaps on the assembly line/ packaging conveyor, but everything still functions correctly so it is shipped out at a lower (but still profitable) price.
Yea because it's not like intel can throw a brand new non scratched IHS on it.....
@@samgoff5289 maybe not worth the time and effort, better sell them at a discount and the final seller marks it up a bit
@@samgoff5289 the time and effort to do that, isnt worth the returns, they will tell you so themselves, amd sent me a factory second that was a 3 model range upgrade over what i had, asked if it was ok that its IHS wasnt pristine... i could have waited another 2-3 weeks for an exact retail package replacement but... the factory 2nd they sent showed no signs on the pins of ever having been tested let alone used... the top had some dings very much like these, i didnt care... it didnt effect the perf...and they extended the warranty to full again like i bought a new chip from them since i accepted the 2nd.... even though it was an upgrade.
and "why dont they just buff it down and re-coat/etch it?" would f-of the tolerances making cooler mounting pressure a problem, also... time and cost vs reward.
its just not worth the time and effort it would take to re-cap them...
also how i got several videocard upgrades, 8800gt to 8800gts512mb for example... 8800gt cooked itself, 2nd one did the same no oc at all on either, bfg jeff sent me a gts 512mb thats cooler was scuffed to shit... when i told him how happy i was.... he was like "i was concerned you may find that offputting" its like...nobody could see it so.. wtf does it matter.... double ram, and a gtx equiv chip...just had to put up with scuffed plastic where somebody tried to remove the stickers using what im am guessing was a dollar store razor scraper...
@@samgoff5289 That's not worth the time. The machines that assemble the CPU are designed to glue an IHS on, not to remove one and scrape off all the leftover silicone adhesive. Replacing it would have to be done by hand. It would take roughly 30 mins from an experienced worker to remove an IHS and clean it up. Afterwards, they can toss it back on the line and have the machines repaste and reglue it. The issue is, it risks destroying an otherwise viable product if any delidding mishaps occur. It won't be worth the investment to build specialized equipment just to delid their own CPUs for the handful of working rejects like these.
Man, it's crazy to think a $2000 CPU is still profitable to sell even at $400. Makes you wonder JUST how much profit Intel can take lol.
i'm focusing on the "small scratches and dents" part of this whole thing for this theory: Back when i was working building washing machines and fridges, if one of these had one of these imperfections on the visual part of it, it would cost more to disassemble it and change the part than selling it around half price (being not listed, of course). I don't know how can this apply to the processor, how hard it is to replace the lid, or how much time and effort it would take, but this is the first thing that came into my mind. The chips are still being made, and some here and there will come non-perfect for retail selling.
But they are discontinued
@@sobhaks7231 officially... in western markets
@@Momi_Vand enterprise customers might have different terms for support, these products might still be supported to large customers.
2 hours after video ended
"This listing has ended."
Thanks, Linus.
lmao was just here to comment about that
It's really annoying when he does this kind of thing.
Can he* just not stfu about deals?
@@tjmarx Well some non scalpers probably did get them from watching this. People who otherwise would be worried it was a scam
@@jacobleeson4763 the listing didn't sell out and it's coming back, it ended. Intel are confirmed as watching these videos. Intel watched it and the listing was shut down.
The most likely scenario is these were stolen legit retail chips and Linus just blew the deal. LTT should just not cover these kinds of things, if people are too scared to take a chance on their own that's their loss.
Still up just another listing on the sellers page.
"You can buy it right now!"
This item is no longer available.
Didn't take long
What did you expect?
Probably in the hands of scalpers now.
@@PeachIceCreamy no one is scalping Intel CPUs lol
@@GoodGamer3000 they are now,after watching this video
Have a feeling the scratches are part of why they're so cheap. Can't sell a $2000 chip with exterior imperfections...
Yeah, that may be true. So that intel can't tell anything to them if they resell it, that's my guess.
Rigggghhht because it is to hard for them to put on a new IHS
@@samgoff5289 as Linus said, they had scratches all over
Could be that it was marked defective from intel and they just give it at a lower price for salvage.
I don't think that makes sense logically because if the issue was simply due to cosmetic damage to the IHS, then all they need to do is put on a different IHS. It would be cheaper to keep making more IHS's than to heavily discount a ton of chips just to sell them. They aren't really special since the lettering on them is all lasered onto them after the fact. And the same IHS is used on a ton of different chips, so you just pull another one from the pile.
How the chips got scratched, wrong answers only: The factory ran out of air hockey pucks
Linus dropped them and blamed it on the seller.
@@ThePiprian that might not be a wrong answers lmfao
The seller has cats
Google needed them for their nerd ball pit.
They were collateral in a geek slip n' slide.
5:19 "Kicked em around the floor a little bit"
That is expected from The Sandal King.
Do not tempt The Sandal King, lest ye be the thing "around on the floor."
Ahh, yes. Intel, the budget oriented option.
10th gen is the best budget option right now in many countries
@@gerhardsmith7892 True. Typing this from my i7-10870h
@@gerhardsmith7892 or 11th gen is also a good option. In my third world country, an i5 11400f is actually 5 dollars cheaper than a 10th gen one currently.
Although it's still pretty expensive as it costs $250... But still cheaper than a ryzen 5 3600 for $320 you know
@@Chipili123 if you talk about i7s tho the 10th gen performs better
About a year ago I bought a "brand new sealed in box" 6850K from an ebay seller who was very clear that the chip was not under warranty. But when I checked with Intel, they said it was under warranty and did an RMA when the chip turned out to be a dud. When I told the seller, he got really mad probably because he was shipping them from China where Intel was selling them brand new. He probably didn't want Intel to find out what he was doing.
Yikes
@@tuff_lover mf deserves it
Whats a RMA?
@@professorxgaming2070 Return merchandise authorization
Most of the biggest thieves are actually vendors to the company. A vendor employee works with his family or friends to divert some of the product they are producing for the OEM. Years ago worked on a team that developed an application for Microsoft to be able to track how many copies (back when software went on DVD's and came in shrink-wrapped packages) of Windows, MS Office, etc., were being produced by their vendors vs. what was being reported to MS. Turned out most of the counterfeit MS software floating around was from the vendors that MS was paying to burn the disks and shrink-wrap the package. They were running millions of extra copies and selling them without paying royalties to MS.
Those are actually "Bad Order" from Intel. Someone from the inside, damaged it intentionally then they can sell it at low cost for consumers to enjoy. I don't mind, as long its working but they are pretty old ~ 🐭
but anyway intel hasn't made any real progress since 2014 so they are still pretty cool ... xD
I didn't upgrade my core 2 quad until last year.... it's all about use
@@cward7320 Hah ! I thought I was the only one, lol ! Except I did it in november 2019.
You had a Q9650 also ? :D
@@manupainkiller no
not that it really matters, wait a few more years, grab a 109x0 chip and be happy at the easy upgrade path...
also.... considering how well this old x5675 overclock holds up gaming... yeah...
outside the 12900 lineup, intels been fairly stagnant for quite a while... at times even having perf drop back vs the previous gen... just less noteworthy since it wasnt as bad as with some amd products of the past.
I really do wonder how the chips got scratched and dinged up like that 🤔
could have been the chips that were below intel's standards that got chucked into a bin, then someone went to take those bins home and tested them 1 by 1 before selling them
I’m guessing that since the i9 platform is supposed to be pc equivalent of owning a megayacht that intel didn’t sell any slightly damaged cpus back when they were brand new, and now are offloading them at the discount price.
@@CodeBroRob I almost have the same idea, but when the original seller was selling in bulk he just tossed them into a container and didn't bother with shipping material so they all shook inside scratching each other up
@@CodeBroRob I don't think so. If chips were below their standard, it would be thrown before packaging, not after.
Maybe it’s from a 14nm Intel 20th anniversary commercial dancing in hazmat suits.
Since Microsoft is telling they would make anything below 8 series obsolete, intel is letting their inventory loose.
Exactly! Someone who gets it.
But to anyone who's ok with running Linux, these are a great deal!
Thats only for the development versions of Windows 10. Once its fully released it should support most CPUs
@@kevo05s That would be a good thing to use for a Plex server or any kind of home server, even as a gaming server.
Win 11 is just a new skin.
Its not a new windows.
So it does not really matter that win 11 doesnt support 7th gen.
Also win 10 and linux support 7th gen
*checks eBay 1hr after video launches* ...and their all gone to resellers or prices are inflated. 2021 vibes.
The i9-7940x at $389 might look good, but it actually performs overall worse than the Ryzen 7 3800x which you can currently get new in box for $343. The higher number of cores doesn't really matter if your cores are significantly slower.
Agreed 👍
this didnt aged well tho a 7820x destroyed my then 5700G so noep hehe helps if you dudes actually use the shit youre talkin about rather then trust benchmarks all the time which is painfull nowe ive got a 10940x and boy am i in heaven oh btw also with 256gig of ram, can you dudes do that on your mainstream system? nope, do you have quadchannel? and tons pf PCIE lanes? nope so a 3800x would be grandmas pc gfor what you use an X299 systme for and ive had a 3800x so theres that :)
If this was a scam, Linus would be like:
"This is the third time i've been scammed, BY EBAY!"
And yes, this is an interpretation of Tourettes Guy quote.
"This is the second time i've been f**ked, BY DAIRY QUEEN! (munches Ice cream)"
I love that immediately knew what you were talking about. Godspeed you beautiful bastard you.
@@dhoome1234ify tourette’s guy! i love those videos lmao
get your homework done
@@dirg3music I had this in my head since linus has been scammed twice on ebay.
Pre-scratched chips would save Linus a lot of time. He wouldn't even have to drop them!
I have a spare X299 motherboard, I'm tempted!
i love your hair bro always a treat seeing u pop up in the comments
order one before the price goes up
Windows 11 support?
@@nit-Inundate I'd like to shave it, like a big fat sheep.
@Santa Claus ᨆ no
“Item is no longer available…”
Ripp
There are available. The same seller offers 12 core and 14 core i9.
@@HanSolo__ all gone lol
*Out of Stock*
@@CrunkyOMan83 Still on
This dude just got a ton of free advertising
``PAID LINK``
Yh and prices are gonna skyrocket, thnx linus
The world is on chip shortages due to pandemic and increasing demand for chips, SoC, etc. Meanwhile this cpu exist with that price tag lol
I was about to say that. Worldwide chip shortage and intel is rolling these ancient things out of the silicon factories under the table.... doesn’t make much sense.
Plandemic
@@firellio070 oh you're one of those people
@@spike5499 Your welcome.
Pandemic doesnt do thing to silicon production
i deal with a lot of bulk and weird cpus often, and can say the small dings and marks all over the chip and even in spots that are bizarre, are because at some point in it's life, for some reason, they were all "thrown into a box/bin/something" together without care for if they were damaged. whatever reason this is could be many, but the intention was for them to be disposed of or recycled, and somehow someone came along and found a way to keep them, and knew most of them could still work, and flipped them. they were free for the seller, or mostly so.
That's a long explanation to say that these are dumpster dived working CPUs.
@@ahshitherewegoagain8695 i didn't want to offend by just spitting it out...
This sounds like the most plausible explanation. Sometimes in the 2nd hand market people handle things they have no idea what they are or how careful to handle them. Like ram sticks, they can be just thrown in a box in bulk.
@@xxvodanhxx indeed, i deal with a HUGE amount of this stuff, and have for over 2 decades, heh. through all that time, the ONLY cpus i've come across with such very specific damage, were from such case, and nothing else, hehe. it's the "what and where" we can never know...
@Nate Masterson That's what she said...
Hey person scrolling through the comments right now,
you'll probably never see me ever again because I'm only 1 of the billions people out there,
but all I wanted to say was, I hope you have a wonderful day.
Don't let anyone or anything bring you down.
You're special in your own way and don't let anyone or anything take the feeling of being special away from you.
Love
ok
You looking sus🥸
Sussy baka amogus
@@jerimoon36 I think u vented
Gonna need a "the verge" amount of thermal paste to fill in those dings and scratches
It's essentially good practice to always have a little more.
Just make sure you have your thermal paste applicator.
@@drakesavory2019 And then drop it and not use it
Wasn’t in the market for a CPU, but now I might be.
Yes.
Good luck trying to find one
@@walidfakhfakh3660 yes
Spends over $400,- on a single part.
Linus: why is this so cheap!?
I know this is a joke, but that's an 18 core 36 thread god spec cpu. And it's a skylake. So one of those for only $400 with barely visible minor scratches is a great deal.
that CPUs MSRP is $2000, I would say it’s a damn good deal
@@rossgoosen7269 it's a great deal but still a lot of money!😁
@@dy7296 not really as linus explained. If youre gonna fold for probably 24/7 you want a more efficient part. saving 200 bucks on intel would cost that in electricity in like 2 years of 24/7 fold. While amd would pay for itself in that time. Newer features. Less vulnerabilities. Runs cooler
@@rossgoosen7269 Just because the original msrp was 2k, doesnt mean its current value is 2k. It get stomped on by the current $800 16c.
5:37 I have my own thesis to that. They fell of the back of a truck. Would explain the scratches even though they weren't mounted anywhere. Maybe they were very briefly to ensure they work
Doesn't explain the restocking.
@@privateger Maybe the backdoor is missing?
And case it wasn't clear: My comment was a joke with "fallen of the back of a truck" as a euphemism for being stolen...
@@MrMegaPussyPlayer Ah, right. Yeah, I agree with that. It's probably someone scratching the CPUs themselves and making the less guarded discard pile disappear.
Also the fact the 18 core chip is “not good enough” for Windows 11 😂
Its only forbidden to sell a PC with this CPU together with a Windows 11 Logo :D
At this point who is even getting Windows 11 except for laptop and tablet users?.. 11 Feels like more of a scam than most ebay listings
Although its not in the supportet cpu list i got the pc healt check tool saying its windows 11 ready.
@@Real_MisterSir personally if it wasn't for the god awful look i would actually be keen on using it for a year due to the direct storage feature, i tried the leaked version and it actually did increase the fps vs win10, but that being said, that's one of the few positive points and they only reside in the mechanisms which, by the way, may decrease due to other stuff getting added including bloatware
so far i got my mind set on either Arch Linux or Manjaro
@@BirnenBaer pssssht let them sheeps be, they flame you you talk bs when you redirect them to the text above the site with all the supported cpu for os X sites.
if i had to take a wild guess, they are actually used, and are coming out of china's crypto mining farms. they were either used for mining monero, or they were used in 12+ gpu rigs. timing coincides to well with china's crack down on mining.
Linus does say the CPUs are in less used state considering the IHS state or the bent PCB that was, ig, common with those CPUs. But hey, you never know.
That's a good guess, but like Linus said they don't really seem that they where used for anything outside of testing, so we don´t really know.
@Nephilimn So the theory that Linus said could be possible, or those could be rejected CPU not because they didn't work, but because they failed the visual inspection with all of those scratches and blemishes, so they could be just thes CPU that Intel had in storage and instead of dispose of them they just sold them, or they could be CPU that maybe where going to be disposed but the employees just keep them and sold them.
This processor sucks a lot of power from the wall. No good for mining at all.
@@Ms666slayer it's also metnionned that the stock is still flowing. A 'disposal' as you mention would be a one time event and will not 'flow'
"......these chips are a steal, and they are real, that's the deal. Now I feel....."
Ah! The writer's choice of words is so satisfying and rhyming, like JAKE really deserves a shout-out now!!!
Thanks, Linus! Last January I bought an Alienware R11 RTX 3080, I opted for the Intel Core i7 which saved me about $600 compared to the Core i9 option. I've been assembling my own PC gaming rigs since 1987 and this was only my second pre-built desktop since then. Both were Alienware PCs too. I wanted an RTX3080 but due to COVID and scalpers, they were only available for about 3X the retail cost. I bought an entire gaming rig from Alienware for about $500 more than what eBay was selling the RTX3080 for last January!
pull the card and cpu. those components shouldnt be sentenced to that terrible case.
@@nathaniel1207 I agree.The Alienware R11 is extremely hard to disassemble and the components are all terrible...just not the gpu and cpu.
Edit:It's also VERY expensive for it's components,so that's another reason to avoid it.
Absolutely no mention how these are now "not windows 11 supported" by microsoft
not very important, for a server it wouldnt be running windows 99% of the time, windows 11 supported means absolutely nothing since by the time its released someone will find a way to bypass the check for safeboot, one of which has already been found
No one cares
I actually was searching for especially this comment xD
@@bendova5484 I'm pretty sure they produced this video before the Microsoft announcement
Actually, they are supported. I happen to own an i7 7820X which I bough back in 2017 and after enabling PTT in the bios Windows reports TPM 2.0 and the PC health check for W11 passes. :-)
"Refurbished"
"100% not used"
Contradiction, much?
They could be cosmetic defects that failed QC or returned
99% used
@@IPushButtonsLive what about the scratches?
@@IPushButtonsLive thank you for this explanation, really appreciate it!
Most ebay sellers use the term "refurbished" for legal reasons. It basically voids the manufacturer full warranty and liability in case of catastrophic damage to a home or business like fire, equipment damage, etc.... Also, refurbished could mean MANY things, it doesn't have to be used to qualify for the description
I've been running one of these "scratch 'n' dent" chips in my main VFIO workstation for a few months. I wanted to do a 2970WX or 2990WX build but used parts were cost-prohibitive and X399 motherboards with good reviews are few and far between. If you need lots of cores, memory bandwidth, and PCIe lanes, it's hard to beat! I only paid $319 for my 7960X before tax and shipping but I'm sure prices are going to skyrocket now.
7:07 "All these squares make a circle"
0:14 “Hello! I’m a little scam!”
- _Linus Ventriloquist Tips_
"and there's tons of them available"
except the seller removed all the cpu listings 🤦♂️
They probably all sold out and they took them down to not get more orders of products they don’t have
not true they are still up www.ebay.com/itm/174513388333
@@kirbycube they increased the price by almost 100% thanks to this video.
Not true, if you take a look into the seller's other listings, it's at the top. 7980xe, 7960x, 7940x etc. They're all there just under a different listing. Also the 7980xe sold out.
Everyone's gansta, until the Microsoft tell you, Your CPU dose't support windows 11
More like your Windows 11 does not support cpu
Who wants windows 11 janky tablet wishwash
But win 10 still supports it
And win 11 is just a new skin.
And if you are someone who is serious about buying this, you probably dont care about skins and aesthetics
@@suntzu1409 Yes, but W11 is still not supporting anything below 8th gen Intel. Well, that's what they claim anyway
@@Cosmstack welp, guess it's time to switch to Linux 🤷
4:47 Got To Take A Moment To Appreciate That Perfect Pillow Throw Didn't Knock The CPU Cooler Over..
In 2021, the question is no longer: "Will it run Crysis".
The question is: "Will it run Windows 11?" :p
It's sad, but true. Windows 11 requires 8th Gen. or newer. These are 7th Gen. So, anyone buying these thinking they're going to have a fancy new Windows 11 workstation; will be very disappointed when they run the compatibility checker on their fancy new workstation.
You can patch the boot file to run windows 11 seen others doing this on youtube
sounds like ms got on the train to push people to upgrade from old cpus, when they actually dont need
Yes it can. Technically Windows 10 doesn’t support fourth gen or older Intel chips, but we know they can run just fine. Windows 11 is more complicated with the whole TPM thing, but if the motherboard is supported (which it is,) I don’t see how it wouldn’t run.
I'm running Wiindows 11 on my Asus x299 Apex with 7980xe :D
There talking about scams while at the same time charging $70 for a pillow.
it has a high production cost
If you get what it says you'll get at the price it says it'll cost, it's not really a scam, is it.
There’s a lot of R&D for that pillow build.
There's alpaca hair in it
But it's a 256 000 cores, hyperthreaded 75Ghz on all cores monster of a pillow
This video was released an hour ago. Of the CPUs listed in the description, the first one is out of stock with 95 units sold, the second has 22 sold in the last hour, and the last one has 6 sold in the last hour.
Another hour later, and they're all gone. Don't waste your time, folks! If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
@@omegagameplays8353 and another hour later, a restock has occurred. This whole thing just got weirder.
Checking in at 4 hours in here. First 2 are gone and the 3rd has limited stock and jacked up the prices.
I just got a 7800X from this seller, it works perfectly fine. I'm writing this at the moment with it overclocked to 4.7ghz on a X299 Micro I picked up for $100 when EVGA was clearing them out. It does pretty nicely for itself in Solidworks, especially with the quad-channel memory.
Who else needs more fire tech tips in their lives
What I need the tech tips beard and hair
As in the server room is on fire again?
This dude right here
I would buy tech tips if needed
Goes to show how quickly technology moves along, that chips priced $2000 not too long ago can go for a fifth the sticker price now.
just wait when the GPU's are gonna start coming down.
RTX 3090 at 500$,
get 3 for 1250$
*1 YEAR WARRANTY*
@@m-w-y7325 dreams
Moore's law has entered the chat
Yea 4 year old chip should be 4 times less transistors than the current so the price tag should decrease proportionally.
Don't forget the fact that these cpus have more security flaws, that will never be patched.
That will 99% of the time not be even an issue.
Compared to what?
>Implying that these "Flaws" have been fixed in more recent editions. Theres a reason why Intel have yet to break the 14nm barrier.
Linus: "We stumbled upon"
Also Linus: "PAID LINK HERE"
Love my 7940X! Sure, binned chip and paid a lot more than $450 a couple years ago but it's certainly no slouch for processing and doing all the things! Awesome that you're able to find basically EoL parts still being sold for the cheap though.
I bought that CPU Pillow and my cats LOVE it. My cats literally queue up to lie down on that pillow. As soon as one moves to drink/eat, the second one gets on there. There is no other pillow they love so much.
I think Yvonne would be proud, lol !
Thumbnail: 'Core i9 Extreme 80% Off' - Must be fake
That's like back in the Conroe days when everyone would just OC their ~$200 CPU to the X6800 levels and save hundreds of dollars.
@be good Keep your religious videos away from tech channels please.
@be good ah, here come the stupid religious preaching videos again......
Also, does overclocking really get you that much performance on older CPUs of that time?
I have a ryzen 5 3600 that was an amazing sample that has an insane boost clock I got up to intel Xeon on cinebench
@@hashhacker2130 Back in the day multi-core CPUs were just becoming a thing, and only some CPU models had SMT. As a result CPUs were segregated by clock speed and cache. Overclocking wasn't officially acknowledged either, so for normal consumers you paid a lot for a little more clock. Since there was always over clocking headroom on the top sku, a lower tier bin could easily be overclocked to the top sku, or sometimes beyond. So enthusiasts would typically buy the cheapest sku with the max cache, and overclock it to run at the same speeds of the flagship saving hundreds of dollars.
Thanks fellow Lower Mainlander, I had to look around but I found a New, in the box, i9-9900X for $460 Canadian, all in. Found it in Europe. Already had an ASUS ROG X299-E Board.
A i5-12600k cost half that
@@josephgaetano6751 but isnt nessessarlely better as i know both chips the 12600k is better but not but all that much bout 30% if you will , also you got quadchannel on a 99x and can put 2 or 3 cards in there so in workloads like videorendering it woudl destroy a system with a 12600k in it ;) and gaming is still very VERY good to the point where you will not baughter with a 12600k obviously :)
Looks like stock that has been put away in a drawer and forgotten about till someone found it doing an inventory.
Im starting to thinking that Linus is the MrBeast of technology.
Mrbeast is the linus of not technology
@@hasbullasfavoriteclips292 L
Yes.
Always has been 🔫🔫🔫🔫
He doesn't give away stuff though? Heck, he even charges for stuff pretty often. He's like the Bizarro-Mr.Beast.
I'm still using the 7980XE since the day-0, still pretty good for gaming and software development
It was not a bad chip at all, just pretty much abuseively priced, and Intel really cocked up X299's rollout at the start VROC dongles are stupid still as well.
They are probably from a waste treatment facility. I knew someone that worked in one when Currys merged with PC World in the UK (mid to late 2016 saw 134 stores close due to merging) and they dumped all of their excess stock and ex-display models due to lack of room. They also get a decent tax write off when they are sent to a treatment centre. All in all we ended up with nearly 2TB of ECC Buffered DDR3 (16GB modules), approximately 50 i5 3330's, several complete desktops (quite a few fairly new i5 and i7 units), loads of 22/24" ex display monitors, and 3 servers that were running dual 6 core/12 thread Xeons. There were also several 65" signage displays of which we grabbed just the one (they are crazy heavy). I think we ended up making around £10k selling that lot, all of which was destined to be scrapped for minimal metal and gold value when it ALL worked. Yes, not a single part was dead. The only thing we didn't get was hard drives as they were physically destroyed before arrival. We did however end up with half a dozen Intel 180GB 2.5" SSDs that were somehow overlooked. They were completely blank though which is fairly quick and easy to do with an SSD.
When you find Intel Core I10 on Amazon for Cortana.
ayyy
You mean core-tana?
@@theprogrammer1 you mean 12 year old jokes ?
4:14 That damage on the chips is probably someone working at intel, knows that if the chip is superficially damaged it probably gets written off and disposed. Then they just go swoop them up.
Friend works at Intel and insinuated you can barely walk out with an extra ballpoint pen, so I don't think that's the case even if these are considered "trash" by them.
@@bruiserdotcom It might depend though. Some other people might have found a way, not everyone works in the same position as your friend. Sounds like a good theory to me.
@@albertnoble2727 I'm assuming it's the same process for these chips, as this is the case with a lot of other hardware products in general. Everything with the same form factor is produced on the same line. Then a same from each batch goes through QC and sorted into different tiers, for examples sake say high, medium, low, and not fit for sale. High would be the highest quality product so everything from that batch is assembled, loaded, and sold as the best from that model. Another sample batch from that same line but made at a different time all test sub par to the highest quality. So even though they're the same chip, different software that throttles it will be loaded and it will be sold as the middle quality product. Same happens for low. Not fit for sale is probably a batch of chips that got messed up scraped or dinged somewhere along the line. Even though these may work and be perfectly fine the company doesn't want to tarnish their rep by selling products that aren't top tier. Even if they officially sold them as a gamble people might be buying those for cheap rather than their top of the line product. So they dump them in a bin and sell it for scrap to someone or auction them off or something. That's what I'm thinkin. These are just chips the company labeled not fit for sale and sell in bulk to someone so they can rebrand or sell cheap. Alternatively, these could also be all the chips that went through the QC sampling process. So they might work but they're no longer brand new and can't be sold as such
@@albertnoble2727 you are not walking out of Intel with CPU's in your pocket. the place is locked down better than fort knox to stop anyone taking anything like designs out for competitors.
@@PimpDaddyStyles assuming intel doesn't keep superficially damaged chips inside the factory forever, it can be possible to claim the chips from wherever they're disposed. There are quite a lot of possibilities. Read Matt's comment.
Ok, so if we're going with the theory that Intel is still making these at one of their fabs, then why do they have the weird pattern of superficial damage? Is it just the packaging? They just throw them in boxes bulk and they get random scratches?
People actually use them and then sell them what a novel concept or they check the CPUs before they sell even a heatsink can scratch a CPU lol
100% believe the clam shell got crushed causing the scratches. Throw it into a new clam shell, and it's now "refurbished".
Probably got damaged at factory or packing but still work fine so now intel can no longer sell them as new
@@ericryang1757 exactly
These are made in batches, so its not impossible that some of these batches met with some accident of some kind
That's the kind of damage that happens when they fall off a truck.
I used to work in a factory making steering gears. The compani I'd basically (though not technically) owned by Toyota and the lines I worked on make steering gears for Toyota. The company doesn't officially make any parts for anybody other than the car manufacturers, even their service parts are sold to the the car manufacturers to be used at the dealerships for recall and service replacement purposes (though the company I worked for had only had 1 recall in almost 30 years). Well I added up how many likes the one Toyota plant had and how many cars one line could push out in an 8 hour period... around 72 per line if they were running flawlessly. So in the ballpark of about 350-450 cars per 8 hours realistically. And Toyota had weekends off. Not union but basically union, they didn't work weekends. We worked almost every weekend for almost 2 years and out production demand was 600/8hrs. So the numbers didn't add up. Well after a little asking around someone said that if Toyota encounters a minor blemish that will not effect the performance or integrity or safety of the gear, many times, instead of going a quality/performance report, jumping through all the hoops, sending it back to us and sending us a bill for their production loss and their engineering team tearing the thing apart; many times they would take it off, grind off the company logos and sell it to one of the bargain bin companies that sell replacement steering gears to the autoparts stores. Also, even though there wasn't a high demand for our steering gears because it was rate that any failed, still the autoparts stores needed gears to sell (especially for the older models and stuff that isn't really made anymore, such as manual gears and column steering assymblies) so... Basically, these gears need to be on the market for end consumers to buy, but technically we're the only ones who can make them and replacement parts for them, unless Toyota opened a contract with another manufacturer but then would have to get approval from us, Yada yada..Yada... to avoid a big headache and potential legal battles, basically the company I worked for would sell excess gears to Big Box Bargain Distributor A who would take them, grind off our companies Logo and put them in their own box, and Toyota woukd act like they didnt know. Sure we wouldn't make NEARLY (not even half) as much on them as compared to selling to Toyota. But, keep in mind, they need only about 1200/day abd 5 days a week (6000/wk). So the slave house I worked for could slave drive their workers for 95/pph 6-7 days a week and any extra is gravy money.
These very same CPUs in the video would be even cheaper yet if Intel acid washed the etching off the CPUs and sent them out like that. They could still be marketed as the same product but with no warranty or anything involved. But they're smart. They know they can get more per each if they leave the etching on. Pretty much the only reason why the company I used to work for would send the gears somewhere that would remove the logo and sell it under another brand is liability. There's little risk and liability with a CPU, they're faulty all the time, in fact the cheap factory thermal compound in them almost garuantees that a customer will be coming back in a little over years for a new one when it burns out (leave it up to leGal Bits (anagram for the former CEO of intel) to carefully implement just a small degree of planned obsolescence to ensure a returned customer. However when it comes to steering gears there's no way to know when and where it will fail or whom it will injur or kill when it does. Part of why I took my job and quality so seriously. So fir a steering gear company you want to keep your name off it, if it isn't technically and officially from you.
So in summary, it doesn't surprise me that they are new and legitimate.
"hello, I'm a little scam" 🤣🤣 I'm dying!!
@be good no
My condolences then.
Linus: This older 14nm silicon is gonna struggle with AMD'S 7nm
Me with my 22nm cpu: you guys reached 7nm?😭
people from the 80s: you guys have nm?
Nm? I'm still on km
Km? I’m still on micrometer!
(Fr tho I have an Ivy Bridge Core i5 which is about 22 nm
I have 32nm FX 4100. But i will upgrade it soon, for a i5 10400f or i7 10700f.
I wanted to say that this heat wave has made me appreciate just how awesome the LTT water bottles are. They are amazing at keeping water cool.
Although I did learn my lesson, make sure to put the water in the fridge in a different container and only fill the bottle with cold water.
bro i love how LTT always has more than one sponsors in each video even tho LTT posts one vid every day
Many years ago, a small computer shop I worked for got about 100 pentium III socket 370 processors, for like $25 a piece. All the packaging was gone, and they were in plastic clamshells in trash bags.
Apparently the shipping container they were in was damaged, leaked, and the shipper's insurance covered the whole container. And then the contents were salvaged and sold by the dock workers.
Maybe it's something like that?
You know they could have just fallen of a truck in the port of Shenzhen.
They wont be supported for windows 11 so they're mass selling them before people start noticing it for security issues. I think this is the best reason for this i think.
My theory is that they are chips that were damaged in shipping and returned before they were used and Intel sold them off
Or maybe what happened was that they were defective in manufacturing, so one of the cores died, then they just deactivated another core and sold an 18 core CPU as a 16 core.
Or they are "grey market". Reported lost of damaged beyond repair in shipping. Now being sold on eBay. You can buy one only to find Intel says "that was stolen" and refuse to support it. Very common with things like hard drives, memory, etc.
Used to work for a major maker of computer monitors & TV's. We routinely got "warranty returns" for units that had been reported "stolen in transit." At that point we not only didn't repair it under warranty, we didn't even return it to the person since it was stolen property.
Intel going for that “pre-worn jeans” look
Linus has perfected the art of smooth transition to sponsors. 🤣🤣🤣
"$2000 CPU for $428 brand new" that's how i felt when Ryzen came out.
The 7980 has a cumulative benchmark / Sysmark of close to 30 000. Thats insane for the money. As a video processor or renderbox its well worth the money.
Ehhh it may have more cores but my 13700k blows it away according to benchmark data
@@wormer66 off you guys look too muc hat benchmarks but no it would loose badly, no 256gig of ram no quadchannel and not a trillion PCIE lanes where u can put in idk 3 GPUS and tripple or quadruple your outpu like with davinci resolve so hell nope, his system properly setup for videoeediting yould blow your 13700k hard, gamign it be the other way arround but not by that much tho, especially X299 systems have a special very low input latency and all that stuff ;)
I love how Linus brings the insane enthusiasm for these experiments :D
Lmao I love linus 10:34
The last time I was this early to a Linus tech tips video intel was actually better than AMD.
That's so funny and original dude 😶
very unoriginal
I guess Intel used Fed Ex to ship them, That would explain the damage
Haha I enjoyed this
I don't know why I get triggered when Linus catches me off guard with the sponsor
If he catches you off guard you must be half asleep
he caught you lacking
not on the offical CPU Support List from Microsoft for Windows 11. Don't know if thats a real problem, but would have been worth a mentioning.
04:46 CPU's shipped in pillows! That's some 5 head packaging right there. XD
Probably leftovers from tray orders. I've experienced tray ordering and it usually datacenters or office buildings full of CAD engineers. When ordering server processor upgrades or workstation upgrades by the tray it is usually done in bulk by companies with massive staff and multiple branch offices. They are usually distributed in tray form and not accounted for on a per chip basis and extras end up laying around on tech benches. This is the most likely scenario and would explain the scratches. It could also be from decommissioned server hardware, and those don't normally use standard type mounting hardware.
Interesting, maybe the scalpers have a new scheme.
Just commenting before this blows up
I hope they do, so they'll off hand my GPU'S
Buy for more sell for less
_uh oh_
yes and it calls linus ads 😂
Companyes: put out insanelly overprized product, make tons of profit, then put it at a normal prize and call it a discount
this dude: how is this so cheap?
8:06 Did anyone notice the saliva falling off
Am I the only one who heard a sound like “Never gonna give you up” starting at 4:54 as the vent was turned on?
Board: how much of a deal do you want?
Seller: yes
I seen Colton winking at linus in the corner of the screen.
"This MUST Be Fake" A CPU that's 4 years old at 1/4 of the value of it's MSRP? Impossible! Smh...
Yeah I’d think it’s fake too, especially when old gpu’s are double their original price
Shut up and consume $70 pillow, sheep
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@@Visbi gpus have multiple reasons to be expensive right now, cpus currently don’t. Especially this one.
Also just stupid. Go buy a 3600 for less with same performance lol
These three have another similarity between each other: they cannot run Windows 11 🤣
Thats what I initially thought was the reason for the cheap price, but I guess I was wrong
If only! I have a feeling MS will soon try to force everyone to update to its new Chrome OS Lookalike. Their real agenda is probably to force manufacturers to enable secure boot and TPM by default.
@@EvanOfTheDarkness I think the point is how they just make Windows 10X into 11 and tell everyone they will be dropping support for what they call the last operating system
@@wcdvtr Well, the new UI looks really dumbed down, and not somethin I'd use. I think its time we port KDE to windows, and just replaced the UI as a whole...
Oh but they can