As a Hungarian, it was extremely fun to watch. During your livestream marathon on this game yesterday I was thinking of how this game works out when you start in Eastern Europe and boom, here is the answer.
One of the things about this game that I think is important to point out to some fans of other franchises such as civ which can be heavily focused on min-maxing, this game is very focused on role playing aspects rather than min-maxing. There’s still definitely potential to min max when sorting out your kingdom but the stress mechanic means that when playing your character you’re gonna want to choose the decisions which bests uit your characters personality rather than always the most beneficial one. Just thought I’d throw it out since civ does have that aspect to it in which some players like to be very meticulous about getting things perfect whilst in crusader kings you almost need to expect things to eventually go wrong as that’s often part of the fun in a way as it adds to the story you create
Until you realize stress is just another stat you are accounting for when you min/max. Civ and CK, just like any other game, can be played in a fashion where you try to min/max or can be played in a different fashion with a different focus. If you make a choice to forego some other benefit in order to keep your stress down, that is min/maxing. You are minimizing the penalties from stress. If, however, you make a choice to forego some other benefit because your character's personality dictates that choice, that is role playing. The stress mechanic doesn't prevent you from min/maxing, it is an ingenious mechanic to attempt to make it so role players and min/maxers are making the same choices. It makes it so that role playing your character can the 'best' (most gamey) choice.
I'm sure in a couple years everyone is still going to make the same 'Paradox released an incomplete game and then patched it with dlc' complaint regardless
@@gadrill4285 ck3 looks polished as hell, why couldnt they do it with imperator rome it was absolute ass when it released..., and in hoi4 every dlc makes the game worse since i have been playing it ^^
As a Hungarian I really appreciate this video. The game is really detailed about the nuances of what happened. And also your pronunciation of names is quite good.
"I will try to not make this video be too long because a Paradox employee will have to watch through it." 10 minutes later. "Don't tell Paradox but..."
I absolutely love this CK content. It's a really difficult game to learn even for someone who's not only plays 4X games like Civ or endless legends but also EU4... Having someone like you create CK content who speaks both very clearly *and* is very informative would be really helpful for me and new players in the future! Keep up the great work :D
My opinion is that CK2/3 and Civ 6 (and EU4 for that matter) all scratch completely different itches. Yes, they're all broadly "strategy games" but I get very different things out of each of them, and an generally in the mood for one or the other at different times. That's why I'm hesitant to recommend one to someone who enjoys one of the others. I will say that CK is the one that I get the most frustrated by, for reasons you said, so it's the one I like the 'least' of the three of them. But I still have hundreds of hours in CK2 so, you know, that's relative.
That's a good take. I have been a Civ fan since Civ3 and I tried EU4 a couple of months ago and I didn't last long. I think I did just a couple of campaigns and lost interest in the game. I think what works for me is to have goals or victory conditions, as I struggle with open sandbox games. I will try this in a couple of weeks, as it looks good and not as dense as EU4 or Heart of Iron.
@@kevinc62 If you struggle with the missing aim in sandbox games try achievement runs. There are a ton in eu4 for example, some easy and some a bit more difficult.
@@kevinc62 Yeah, with EU4 achievement runs (or games where you aim to fill out a countries mission tree, some of which also double as achievements but many don't) are the way to have a goal oriented playstyle with that game. I actually think it works out _better_ in that game than a 4X, though, since with the fixed start and familiar world you can develop strategies and aim for particular goals over multiple runs. CK2/3 is even less goal-oriented than EU4, mind, but CK3 is the most approachable Paradox game ever made, probably, so there is that.
I will go farther than that; it's more like comparing Battlefield to Doom. Civ 6 is a 4X game, and the "Explore" part of 4X is what drives the player forward. There is no "explore" in Paradox games (Stellaris, notwithstanding) which is why I don't care for them, even though they are turn-based strategy. I think they are brilliantly designed and beautiful games, but as Skycroft said, they just don't scratch the itch I have when I'm in the mood for TBS. They are very simulation oriented, whereas Civ is not. Dwarf Fortress is another heavy sim game that I thought I was going to love, but it just doesn't work for me. I am glad Paradox is making these games though, because they have good mechanics and they influence the genre in a positive way. It's also satisfying to see someone else play these games, even though I don't really get into them myself.
I really love the map layout and realistic naming of land, like it was in Knights of Honor (each region had it's city that was named after the province based on history). It's awesome to see our own historic parts of country or our neighbours :D Like Nitra (part of Slovakia) or Přerov, Raciborz (surroundings of the town I live in). It's a verey nice touch.
Ive had alot of fun playing this game, and I think part of why Ive been liking it is Im playing it like an RPG not a grand strategy game you can win. Its about the story of what happens, and if I go from an emperor to a count, then have to work my way up, thats just a fun redemption arc to play. I think it also makes it so you dont feel bad for not getting it right off the bat, your character is learning the ropes of a new world, just like you
As a hungarian, 3 minutes into the video, and i already like it :) Fyi hungarians call themself magyar, not mogyer, maybe in 866 was that (edit: looked it up, yeah in middle ages they used to call themself mogyer/magyer)
Been playing both Civ (5 and 6) and Crusader Kings about the same amount of time over the past 7 or so years. Both are great games with relatively expensive dlc. They each got a different feel from each other and their respective nuances are easy to learn but hard to master. Anyways I hope you'll post more CK3 content !
I got over 1,200 hours in CK II over the past decade or so. Also 600 hours into civ V. I recently got CK III because I love paradox, they make addictive open ended games. Loving it so far ×;
I couldn't agree more with the end of the video. I've been there and that's certainly true. My only duchy was usurped, my character died and all my lands were split. The next character i played (his daughter) managed to retake the lost regions AND married the heir of Italy matrillineally. When she died, her son ruled both Ireland and Italy
I've been playing it for a couple days now and while I really love how chill and relaxing this simulator game is, the hardest thing is keeping up with about a million different names for duchies/counties/kingdoms etc. not to mention all the names of the people who are constantly being randomly generated. Yeah it's kinda impossible :D great fun though.
CK3 has a better in game tutorial so that will definitely help! I struggled with CK2 at first and played it on and off for about a year before everything started truly falling into place. Now it's one of my favourite games of all time!
I'm a civ 6 player and tried to get into eu4, the learning curve is too steep unless you want to spend hundreds of hours just to do what you wanted from the game in the first place (conquer other countries). It's a chore, especially given the game's slow pace. Some parts are easy enough to understand, but when it comes to trade, burghers and clergy, and battles, it just gets too much imo.
@@Ludwig1625 I play Civ 6 and CK2, and tried to get into EU4 but it was way too overwhelming and quite frankly, boring. I would not recommend it if you haven't played a paradox GS game before. About CK3, it seems quite accessible than CK2, which itself was the most accessible PDX GS game. If you're a fan of roleplaying and seeing empires rise and fall, with mediaeval shenanigans happening in the background, then I'd recommend CK3. If you hate RNG and want to methodically take over the entire world then this game isn't for you.
@@Ludwig1625 I have 1.5k hours in EU4 and Im an intermediate player at best. Yes, you do have to learn the game to get something done. But it feels way more rewarding, imo. But everyone has his/her own opinion.
I love this game. Just picked it up. I actually think the first few times it’s okay to restart. Just to explore a few different play styles and get a good handle over the extremely difficult and complex game mechanics, and find one you like and want to explore. But I mean this for like the first 10 hours of game play. After that, I agree with you. Settle in with that play style and go for it. And then as your empire grows, you get really comfortable, you can keep exploring new play styles and avenues. Also, unfortunately they really nerfed intrigue in a patch. Intrigue can still be useful in later and larger empires, but I would recommend to first focus on military and start small-like in a Duchy in Ireland. Lastly, will you do a larger let’s play? I love seeing your strategy and thoughts and it would be really cool to see you play and explore this game in depth.
Just to add an additional perspective, I tend to be frustrated by complicated gameplay, to the point that a lot of strategy games can be too confusing for me, even something like Civ6. But I really enjoy playing CK2, and from the 90 minutes I've been able to play of CK3 so far it's got a lot of the qualities that made me like 2, with gameplay that's more friendly to new players. I really dig the roleplay and how personal the games can be, since you're playing from the perspective of a single person instead of focusing only on an empire. I spend a lot more time on diplomacy and court intrigue than expanding my borders and going to war, and there's still a TON of stuff to do. I'm also really excited to see from watching people playing early copies that stuff in 2 I wanted to do that I had to get DLC for--playing in India, plagues and illnesses, lifestyle focuses--are in the base game this time. So even if you tend to be a more casual or less strategic player, I definitely recommend seeking out more content from this game if you're interested. It might be more fun for you than you think.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun finding those really good marriage options for your family members. Like .. Hmmm this one has genius or strong, this one has a claim to "that" duchy, or this one with a good tier 5 education Taking over a kingdom one wedding at a time .. is often more fun than the "whack a mole stack herding"
@@lukasbaker4098 it depends on the day! I'm bipolar and one of the symptoms can be difficulties focusing and just general disorganized thoughts, so that's why I sometimes struggle with strategy games. I have a basic grasp on both games, although I wouldn't say I'm *good* at either one--but since I'm into roleplaying, even if I'm struggling to focus on a certain day I can still get enjoyment out of trying to please my vassels or pair people off in good marriages or seducing the entire kingdom, etc. I'm not as easily hooked by stuff like tech trees or city management, so if I'm not in the mood to wrangle my brain it can be a harder sell for me. Also just like Potato said, since losses in CK feel more like part of a story arc and there's no real won conditions, set backs don't hurt as much. So even when I do mess up because I'm not focusing as well, it's not as upsetting.
Modern hungarians are essentially culture flipped slavs and have virtually no maghyar/siberian-uralic ancestry, except for the szekely in Romania (Transylvania). Their genetics resembles western and southern slavs with a bit geman.
Lemme give you a tip. Make an alliance with the biggest possible persons you can. I had an alliance with French, Roman and English empires at the same as the king of Portugal I guess time and no one was able to take down me.
The "story" has always been the main thing I loved about CK. Finding out a nephew wants you dead or one of your children is possessed has always been the thing that made it stand on its own. CK always reminded me of Game of Thrones. If that's true; then Civ is like Lord of the Rings. A true great in its own right, but with less nuance and historical backing than the other.
i agree i love the Victorian era. more broadly i love the "age of discovery". if they mad a ck3 type game in that time of history that would be the best game of all time
@@DrGodzirra theyre not dynasty based because Feudalism basically disappeared by the 16th century. It doesnt make much sense to have a game based around characters and dynasties when 1. There are very few landholders, and 2. There is virtually no opportunity for less powerful non-ruler characters to upset the balance I just dont see how it would make for an interesting play experience
@@BiggRob how do they pull that off? It's crazy that's even a thing. With the xbox one x as well, pulling off a 500 dollar price tag. No idea how they do it.
@@Ludwig1625 Ah Mr Beethoven pleasure to see you. I am a bit confused asto if you are insinuating that it is overpriced or incredibly under priced. But either way getting someone to spend $700 one time on a console and some games is great but if you can convince them to pay you on a monthly basis to generate recurring revenue you have now locked them in as a customer. its a low enough price to never really bother to cancel and guarantees you revenue every month. Also being that you are now a committed customer you are more likely to continue shopping with them "Humans love memberships" . The low price tag also allows them to pull in a wider audience especially in lower income areas of the world. People find it hard to justify spending large amounts of money upfront but if you break it down into "easy monthly payments" its easier for them to stomach it. Same this with financing a car compare to buying it in cash. You probably weren't looking for this long response but I think its an interesting topic. Thanks, -Rob
Looks fascinating... but I can't imagine how I could ever learn to play it! The complexity just seems insurmountable. Civ 6 pretty-much directs your gaze to the next thing to look at (next unit to give orders to, next tech to choose, etc.,), but this seems so open-ended I can't see how to know what to consider next.
i like to play games like civilization VI and V, and watching this vid makes me want to play Crusader King, but I have 1 question. Can I play CKIII and learn its mechanics without playing previous CK versions? thanks in advance
Your analysis of the hungarian origins may hold some weight, as their language is a finno-urgic, meaning the languages that came from the ural mountains and reached finland(and hungary). The finnic language was for climate change, the hungarian was for fleeing horse archers.
ive already bought the game and it reminds me of how i felt when first playing civ 6 and i also bought the game but not under your link soz so put me down as one more
can you play more Paradox game like Stellaris, EU or HoI4? im very interested in these game but its too hard, i think this game is more complicate than civilization 6
So I just bought CK3 on the PS5. I tried playing it but good God is it complex and so much happening at once After watching this video I've realised I need to return it 😂😂 Definitely not my type of game, just gonna stick to Civ 6 it seems
I feel like the one this game lacks is a war system with any depth. Compared to say Civ 6 or Heart of Iron 4, it doesn't exactly feel "good" when conquering someone through war. There isn't the whole tug of war until one side finally breaks and then the flood gates open. It's much more of a very straight forward win/lose scenario.
Honestly though I think the third one is a improvement in the combat department over CK2. I really like the knight system, and Men-at-Arms instead of Retinues.
Honestly though I think the third one is a improvement in the combat department over CK2. I really like the knight system, and Men-at-Arms instead of Retinues.
@@darmocat Then you heard wrong. 1066 is the standard start for most people wanting to play as anything other than Pagans, while the 876 was the standart start for people wanting to play Pagans. 769, while interesting, wasn't that engaging for most players.
I've bought the game and tried to play it, just couldn't get the hang of it. This video helped and I'll try again. Maybe my computer is too sh!tty to handle it....?
what happens in the game if your dynasty dies and your kingdom is inherited by someone else? edit: is it game over or you get to play with the other dynasty who inherited it?
Game over, if either all of your dynasty (not house) members dies, or none of them held any landed title above baron (because baron level isn't playable)
Right now there are no addons, just got released this week. But to my knowledge they plan on major extension per year for about 30€, ans smaller flavour packs (most likely regional stuff) for about 7 or 8 €. Depends on your region though.
I LOVE your channel and it's helped me to become a much better Civ player. But to compare this game to Civ 6 is a crime on the level of the Holocaust (or worse). In the Civilization series, it's "Build an Empire to stand the test of time." How you do it is up to you. Will your culture flourish and be the envy of the world? Will your scientists be respected among everyone? Will you just dominate anyone who opposes your will? Or will you be the peacemaker, allowing humanity to flourish as a species? Or will your religion be the guiding light to lead humanity to greatness? In CK3, it's "survive until 1453." Don't bother building an empire, because you won't be able to control it. You can't expand your culture or your faith (and in fact, if you're playing as a catholic, you actually LOSE the religion war.
Do you think we need to do a tier list for this game?
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@damageprone14 Wich kind? i got no Probs with it....!?!?
YES hahah I would love a tier list
@damageprone14 I don't have a problem with the way paradox does DLC and I have been a customer of theirs for 10 years
If you are looking to not watch the entire video. A quick summary
Bla,Bla,Bla No.
Make a tier list of all 90+ religions. I dare you.
“Stress goes away when you die.” Ah, good to know that I won’t be stressed in the afterlife
Looking forward to it!
"If there is any work in the afterlife, you must do it." --Sean bean in civ vi
As a Hungarian, it was extremely fun to watch. During your livestream marathon on this game yesterday I was thinking of how this game works out when you start in Eastern Europe and boom, here is the answer.
Mi mindenhol ott vagyunk
One of the things about this game that I think is important to point out to some fans of other franchises such as civ which can be heavily focused on min-maxing, this game is very focused on role playing aspects rather than min-maxing. There’s still definitely potential to min max when sorting out your kingdom but the stress mechanic means that when playing your character you’re gonna want to choose the decisions which bests uit your characters personality rather than always the most beneficial one. Just thought I’d throw it out since civ does have that aspect to it in which some players like to be very meticulous about getting things perfect whilst in crusader kings you almost need to expect things to eventually go wrong as that’s often part of the fun in a way as it adds to the story you create
Until you realize stress is just another stat you are accounting for when you min/max. Civ and CK, just like any other game, can be played in a fashion where you try to min/max or can be played in a different fashion with a different focus. If you make a choice to forego some other benefit in order to keep your stress down, that is min/maxing. You are minimizing the penalties from stress. If, however, you make a choice to forego some other benefit because your character's personality dictates that choice, that is role playing.
The stress mechanic doesn't prevent you from min/maxing, it is an ingenious mechanic to attempt to make it so role players and min/maxers are making the same choices. It makes it so that role playing your character can the 'best' (most gamey) choice.
Crusader Kings, learn how to kill the right person, marry the right person, and you’ll be fine
I would LOVE to see more CK3 content on this channel
I laughed when you started talking about finding a wife with skills. Napoleon Dynamite would love this game 😄
James Keenan Nunchuck skills....horse riding skills....blacksmith skills....
CK3 goes straight to my list of games I play when my body died and my consiusness is uploaded to the cloud. Like Eve online and Skyrim.
From what I’m hearing, I’m glad that Paradox actually launches a game in a complete state without patching it with DLC for once
The curse is broken!
I'm sure in a couple years everyone is still going to make the same 'Paradox released an incomplete game and then patched it with dlc' complaint regardless
yeah pretty surprised by that honestly, i thought i'd have to wait till 2021 to play it
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@@gadrill4285 ck3 looks polished as hell, why couldnt they do it with imperator rome it was absolute ass when it released..., and in hoi4 every dlc makes the game worse since i have been playing it ^^
As a Hungarian I really appreciate this video. The game is really detailed about the nuances of what happened.
And also your pronunciation of names is quite good.
This game looks amazing! I am buying it in a few minutes on Steam. The royal edition.
"I will try to not make this video be too long because a Paradox employee will have to watch through it."
10 minutes later.
"Don't tell Paradox but..."
It looks like it. I hope to see more CK3 videos from you if you enjoy!
I absolutely love this CK content. It's a really difficult game to learn even for someone who's not only plays 4X games like Civ or endless legends but also EU4... Having someone like you create CK content who speaks both very clearly *and* is very informative would be really helpful for me and new players in the future! Keep up the great work :D
Please do some CK3 videos. I love your Civ series, and would absolutely follow a CK3 series.
Really liked your review through the lens of coming to CK from Civ. It gives so much more context. You know your audience, Potato.
Such a good game. Played it for 2 days straight but work keeps getting in the way.
I've loved Civ since IV, but I constant find myself wishing to go deeper with decisions and roleplay.
You may have just sold me on CK3.
This is the best explanation of Crusader Kings 3 I've found. Thank you!
Loved ck2 so much. Mods for that are worth the game as well! Can't wait for mods for ck3!
My opinion is that CK2/3 and Civ 6 (and EU4 for that matter) all scratch completely different itches. Yes, they're all broadly "strategy games" but I get very different things out of each of them, and an generally in the mood for one or the other at different times. That's why I'm hesitant to recommend one to someone who enjoys one of the others.
I will say that CK is the one that I get the most frustrated by, for reasons you said, so it's the one I like the 'least' of the three of them. But I still have hundreds of hours in CK2 so, you know, that's relative.
It feels like comparing COD to Battlefield: Similar, but with big differences
That's a good take. I have been a Civ fan since Civ3 and I tried EU4 a couple of months ago and I didn't last long. I think I did just a couple of campaigns and lost interest in the game. I think what works for me is to have goals or victory conditions, as I struggle with open sandbox games. I will try this in a couple of weeks, as it looks good and not as dense as EU4 or Heart of Iron.
@@kevinc62 If you struggle with the missing aim in sandbox games try achievement runs. There are a ton in eu4 for example, some easy and some a bit more difficult.
@@kevinc62 Yeah, with EU4 achievement runs (or games where you aim to fill out a countries mission tree, some of which also double as achievements but many don't) are the way to have a goal oriented playstyle with that game. I actually think it works out _better_ in that game than a 4X, though, since with the fixed start and familiar world you can develop strategies and aim for particular goals over multiple runs. CK2/3 is even less goal-oriented than EU4, mind, but CK3 is the most approachable Paradox game ever made, probably, so there is that.
I will go farther than that; it's more like comparing Battlefield to Doom. Civ 6 is a 4X game, and the "Explore" part of 4X is what drives the player forward. There is no "explore" in Paradox games (Stellaris, notwithstanding) which is why I don't care for them, even though they are turn-based strategy. I think they are brilliantly designed and beautiful games, but as Skycroft said, they just don't scratch the itch I have when I'm in the mood for TBS. They are very simulation oriented, whereas Civ is not. Dwarf Fortress is another heavy sim game that I thought I was going to love, but it just doesn't work for me. I am glad Paradox is making these games though, because they have good mechanics and they influence the genre in a positive way.
It's also satisfying to see someone else play these games, even though I don't really get into them myself.
2 of the best ways of ensuring it's you that inherits that title.
#1 - Manure Cart Explosions
#2 - Pillow
I really love the map layout and realistic naming of land, like it was in Knights of Honor (each region had it's city that was named after the province based on history).
It's awesome to see our own historic parts of country or our neighbours :D Like Nitra (part of Slovakia) or Přerov, Raciborz (surroundings of the town I live in). It's a verey nice touch.
Thank you for making this video! Definitely getting this game. You gave an excellent description at the end by the way.
My favorite child hood games were named castles 1 and castles 2....almost 25 years later or so finally a game I love just as much.
Ive had alot of fun playing this game, and I think part of why Ive been liking it is Im playing it like an RPG not a grand strategy game you can win. Its about the story of what happens, and if I go from an emperor to a count, then have to work my way up, thats just a fun redemption arc to play. I think it also makes it so you dont feel bad for not getting it right off the bat, your character is learning the ropes of a new world, just like you
I love how you talk about video game systems like they're gourmet foodstuffs 😂
If Potato McWhiskey makes great videos explaining what he is doing in the game like his Civ6 videos, then this will be a game for me.
As a hungarian, 3 minutes into the video, and i already like it :)
Fyi hungarians call themself magyar, not mogyer, maybe in 866 was that (edit: looked it up, yeah in middle ages they used to call themself mogyer/magyer)
So, how many armies of horse archers do you have by now?
@@carpetclimber4027 very few :)
CK is an RPG for geography nerds because fantasy just wasn't quite nerdy enough. And by god we thank Paradox for it.
Why Geography though? I'd rather say History Nerds.
Been playing both Civ (5 and 6) and Crusader Kings about the same amount of time over the past 7 or so years. Both are great games with relatively expensive dlc. They each got a different feel from each other and their respective nuances are easy to learn but hard to master. Anyways I hope you'll post more CK3 content !
I got over 1,200 hours in CK II over the past decade or so. Also 600 hours into civ V. I recently got CK III because I love paradox, they make addictive open ended games. Loving it so far ×;
I couldn't agree more with the end of the video. I've been there and that's certainly true. My only duchy was usurped, my character died and all my lands were split. The next character i played (his daughter) managed to retake the lost regions AND married the heir of Italy matrillineally. When she died, her son ruled both Ireland and Italy
Awesome.
I've been playing it for a couple days now and while I really love how chill and relaxing this simulator game is, the hardest thing is keeping up with about a million different names for duchies/counties/kingdoms etc. not to mention all the names of the people who are constantly being randomly generated. Yeah it's kinda impossible :D great fun though.
I love watching crusader kings. I just really struggle with the mechanics of the game. I never new how to even start in crusader kings 2
CK3 has a better in game tutorial so that will definitely help! I struggled with CK2 at first and played it on and off for about a year before everything started truly falling into place. Now it's one of my favourite games of all time!
like other Paradox 's games, you play the tuto about 1000h xD
I suggest watching alot of youtube videos and just...Winging it. Go into the game and play, and if you fail thats part of the learning.
Also moding it can help. I played the Game of Thrones mod because the setting was more appealing to me. It helped.
He's right like civ 6 if you want to improve you must read ingame and watch and pratice
I think you just made me love another strategy game. Didn't think it was possible. I'm downloading it now :)
Civ 6 is like a chess match and CK3 is a sandbox simulator. Both are awesome
This feels like game of thrones
Surprised to see potato didnt realize leader of Norway in 1066 is the same guy who leads Norway in Civ 6
potato is a vicky fan confirmed
now say vic3 when
#victoria3
Vicky 3 has become the Half-life 3 of the Grand Strategy Game set :D.
at 38:00 potato is referencing the Montezuma stream :)
I would say its a lot more complicated than civ6 I dont think I'm going to play it
Honestly paradox games vary in in complexity. If you want to play one i sugest starting with hoi4
I'm a civ 6 player and tried to get into eu4, the learning curve is too steep unless you want to spend hundreds of hours just to do what you wanted from the game in the first place (conquer other countries). It's a chore, especially given the game's slow pace. Some parts are easy enough to understand, but when it comes to trade, burghers and clergy, and battles, it just gets too much imo.
@@Ludwig1625 I play Civ 6 and CK2, and tried to get into EU4 but it was way too overwhelming and quite frankly, boring. I would not recommend it if you haven't played a paradox GS game before.
About CK3, it seems quite accessible than CK2, which itself was the most accessible PDX GS game. If you're a fan of roleplaying and seeing empires rise and fall, with mediaeval shenanigans happening in the background, then I'd recommend CK3. If you hate RNG and want to methodically take over the entire world then this game isn't for you.
It's basically HOI4 with minor changes
@@Ludwig1625 I have 1.5k hours in EU4 and Im an intermediate player at best. Yes, you do have to learn the game to get something done. But it feels way more rewarding, imo. But everyone has his/her own opinion.
This is exactly what I was looking for...
35:24 - when he answers the title question
I love this game. Just picked it up. I actually think the first few times it’s okay to restart. Just to explore a few different play styles and get a good handle over the extremely difficult and complex game mechanics, and find one you like and want to explore. But I mean this for like the first 10 hours of game play. After that, I agree with you. Settle in with that play style and go for it. And then as your empire grows, you get really comfortable, you can keep exploring new play styles and avenues.
Also, unfortunately they really nerfed intrigue in a patch. Intrigue can still be useful in later and larger empires, but I would recommend to first focus on military and start small-like in a Duchy in Ireland.
Lastly, will you do a larger let’s play? I love seeing your strategy and thoughts and it would be really cool to see you play and explore this game in depth.
This game reminds me of mount and blade 2 Bannerlord and I love that game so I’m considering getting this.
He is just casually playing while Scandinavia is taking over half of Western Europe
As it should be...
A tip for combat. Hills and mountains are bad, really bad. Unless you are defending. And never attack attack cross a river, if you can avoid it.
Just to add an additional perspective, I tend to be frustrated by complicated gameplay, to the point that a lot of strategy games can be too confusing for me, even something like Civ6. But I really enjoy playing CK2, and from the 90 minutes I've been able to play of CK3 so far it's got a lot of the qualities that made me like 2, with gameplay that's more friendly to new players. I really dig the roleplay and how personal the games can be, since you're playing from the perspective of a single person instead of focusing only on an empire. I spend a lot more time on diplomacy and court intrigue than expanding my borders and going to war, and there's still a TON of stuff to do. I'm also really excited to see from watching people playing early copies that stuff in 2 I wanted to do that I had to get DLC for--playing in India, plagues and illnesses, lifestyle focuses--are in the base game this time.
So even if you tend to be a more casual or less strategic player, I definitely recommend seeking out more content from this game if you're interested. It might be more fun for you than you think.
Holy shit. How can you understand ck2 but not understand civ 6?
Yeah, it's a lot of fun finding those really good marriage options for your family members.
Like .. Hmmm this one has genius or strong, this one has a claim to "that" duchy, or this one with a good tier 5 education
Taking over a kingdom one wedding at a time .. is often more fun than the "whack a mole stack herding"
@@lukasbaker4098 it depends on the day! I'm bipolar and one of the symptoms can be difficulties focusing and just general disorganized thoughts, so that's why I sometimes struggle with strategy games. I have a basic grasp on both games, although I wouldn't say I'm *good* at either one--but since I'm into roleplaying, even if I'm struggling to focus on a certain day I can still get enjoyment out of trying to please my vassels or pair people off in good marriages or seducing the entire kingdom, etc. I'm not as easily hooked by stuff like tech trees or city management, so if I'm not in the mood to wrangle my brain it can be a harder sell for me.
Also just like Potato said, since losses in CK feel more like part of a story arc and there's no real won conditions, set backs don't hurt as much. So even when I do mess up because I'm not focusing as well, it's not as upsetting.
I need to see another ck3 vid on this channel... Especially now that T&T Dlc is out
"Crumbly" or "crunchy," I think you're looking for "granular."
Thanks for this! Hoping you do more
Potato 2020 "Just stick to a save file, only for a couple hundred years because it doesnt take that much dedication"
I would love to see a Victoria 2 video at some point
#victoria3
Modern hungarians are essentially culture flipped slavs and have virtually no maghyar/siberian-uralic ancestry, except for the szekely in Romania (Transylvania). Their genetics resembles western and southern slavs with a bit geman.
If civ players love forking over cash for DLCs, that should've been part of the vanilla game, then yes, Crusader Kings 3 a game for Civ 6 Players.
Lmai
What's lacking from ck 3 ? From what I've seen every faith and culture is playable
Play CK3 to get a +7 adjacency bonus to all your Civ 6 games!
A Game of Thrones mod for this would be absolutely fantastic.
Oh boy have i news for you then, ck2 has a massive got mod with scripted content and everything
@@grum8355 Even better, a big portion of the mod team of the GoT mod will work on a CK3 GoT mod.
This is available on game pass for pc, best way to see if you enjoy it
Lemme give you a tip. Make an alliance with the biggest possible persons you can. I had an alliance with French, Roman and English empires at the same as the king of Portugal I guess time and no one was able to take down me.
I have Never Player ck3. Was always a Civ Player. But i enjoy your vids. Maybe i Start playing it myself in Winter
Alpha Centauri was a game for CK2 players for sure.
The "story" has always been the main thing I loved about CK. Finding out a nephew wants you dead or one of your children is possessed has always been the thing that made it stand on its own.
CK always reminded me of Game of Thrones. If that's true; then Civ is like Lord of the Rings. A true great in its own right, but with less nuance and historical backing than the other.
You should give Transylvania to Dracula......make him a count or something......OK, I'll see myself out ;).
Please play more of this
i agree i love the Victorian era. more broadly i love the "age of discovery". if they mad a ck3 type game in that time of history that would be the best game of all time
They’ve made both - Victoria II for the Victorian Era, and Europa Universalis 4 (my favorite Paradox title) for the Age of Exploration
@@johnnygillam3975 those are grand strategy, but they arnt dynasty based like ck series
DrGodzirra Ah, I see what you meant. You’re right, a dynasty-based version of either of those games would be interesting.
@@DrGodzirra theyre not dynasty based because Feudalism basically disappeared by the 16th century. It doesnt make much sense to have a game based around characters and dynasties when 1. There are very few landholders, and 2. There is virtually no opportunity for less powerful non-ruler characters to upset the balance
I just dont see how it would make for an interesting play experience
This game will be great. The only problem is that’s it’s 50$
It is on microsoft game pass right now. 1$ for your first month.
Yes but eventually that will be more
@@jordanschomer7276 The max price it will go to is $5 a month. not bad for all the games on it
@@BiggRob how do they pull that off? It's crazy that's even a thing. With the xbox one x as well, pulling off a 500 dollar price tag. No idea how they do it.
@@Ludwig1625 Ah Mr Beethoven pleasure to see you. I am a bit confused asto if you are insinuating that it is overpriced or incredibly under priced. But either way getting someone to spend $700 one time on a console and some games is great but if you can convince them to pay you on a monthly basis to generate recurring revenue you have now locked them in as a customer. its a low enough price to never really bother to cancel and guarantees you revenue every month. Also being that you are now a committed customer you are more likely to continue shopping with them "Humans love memberships" . The low price tag also allows them to pull in a wider audience especially in lower income areas of the world. People find it hard to justify spending large amounts of money upfront but if you break it down into "easy monthly payments" its easier for them to stomach it. Same this with financing a car compare to buying it in cash. You probably weren't looking for this long response but I think its an interesting topic.
Thanks,
-Rob
The Magyar (pronounced Majar) *are* cool!
Looks fascinating... but I can't imagine how I could ever learn to play it! The complexity just seems insurmountable. Civ 6 pretty-much directs your gaze to the next thing to look at (next unit to give orders to, next tech to choose, etc.,), but this seems so open-ended I can't see how to know what to consider next.
Actually there is a new button on top of the screen, which also gives you hints what you can do next, as part of the alarm system.
i like to play games like civilization VI and V, and watching this vid makes me want to play Crusader King, but I have 1 question. Can I play CKIII and learn its mechanics without playing previous CK versions? thanks in advance
In fact it is easier since CK3 does Streamline some features and has a rather indepth Tutorial unlike CK2
My parents almost named me Álmos, which would have been funny because the word nowadays means Sleepy and I am so tired
I bought it because you. Would’ve never looked into it and saw it got a 91 on metacritic
Your analysis of the hungarian origins may hold some weight, as their language is a finno-urgic, meaning the languages that came from the ural mountains and reached finland(and hungary). The finnic language was for climate change, the hungarian was for fleeing horse archers.
I like these graphics
life hack: set playback speed to 0.75
Well I’m playing it on console so I’m doomed to wait for it to come to consoles
There are some videos I'll never understand why people dislike.
It's a bit adverty
Thousands of hours into Civ IV-VI, hundreds of hours into CK2. CK is definitely for Civ players.
Also agree, don’t restart. Ironman or play Civ.
And don’t min/max this game. Role play it.
Im gonna have to pick this game up
You should make more paradox content
Wanted to play them too but no idea how they work so went to 1066 start Hungary instead. I know I'm lazy . . . .:D
Is it fair to think of this game as almost an RPG instead of a 4x style game?
Yes it is. Its a pretty unique mix from strategy and RPG.
why dont you play crusader kings 3 anymore? srs inquiry~
ive already bought the game and it reminds me of how i felt when first playing civ 6 and i also bought the game but not under your link soz so put me down as one more
The heck is a den esty..... It's die nesty... Driving me nuts
God I wanna buy this game so bad
You can play it for one dollar if you join the new xbox to pc game thing wasteland 3 is on there too
What is the difference between the paradox store and Steam?
I'm pretty sure if you purchase something on the Paradox store it gives you a steam code anyway.
This is a long video for a yes or no answer
can you play more Paradox game like Stellaris, EU or HoI4? im very interested in these game but its too hard, i think this game is more complicate than civilization 6
So I just bought CK3 on the PS5. I tried playing it but good God is it complex and so much happening at once
After watching this video I've realised I need to return it 😂😂
Definitely not my type of game, just gonna stick to Civ 6 it seems
Does the stress carry on in the afterlife or if you are reincarnated? :D
I feel like the one this game lacks is a war system with any depth. Compared to say Civ 6 or Heart of Iron 4, it doesn't exactly feel "good" when conquering someone through war. There isn't the whole tug of war until one side finally breaks and then the flood gates open. It's much more of a very straight forward win/lose scenario.
Honestly though I think the third one is a improvement in the combat department over CK2. I really like the knight system, and Men-at-Arms instead of Retinues.
Honestly though I think the third one is a improvement in the combat department over CK2. I really like the knight system, and Men-at-Arms instead of Retinues.
thank you!
speed .95 is perfect lol
What happened to the 769 start date? I think I'll keep playing CK2 for now.
They didnt include it at launch. I think apart of it was because it wasnt nearly as popular as the 876 and 1066 start dates.
@@tlpineapple1 I always heard that the 769 start date was the most popular, and the 1066 was the least.
@@darmocat Then you heard wrong. 1066 is the standard start for most people wanting to play as anything other than Pagans, while the 876 was the standart start for people wanting to play Pagans.
769, while interesting, wasn't that engaging for most players.
@@darmocat That is directly from paradoxes statistics. You may have enjoyed the 769 start day, but it wasnt as popular as the 867 start date.
@@tlpineapple1 Interesting, I did not know that. Do you have a link to their stats? I like statistics :)
It is back!!!
I've bought the game and tried to play it, just couldn't get the hang of it. This video helped and I'll try again. Maybe my computer is too sh!tty to handle it....?
No, watch let's plays, you will get it. It's not that much as a whole to keep track off in the UI.
How did you go from annexing certain territories to being given completely different territories after you win? Makes no sense!
what happens in the game if your dynasty dies and your kingdom is inherited by someone else?
edit: is it game over or you get to play with the other dynasty who inherited it?
Game over, if either all of your dynasty (not house) members dies, or none of them held any landed title above baron (because baron level isn't playable)
Yes this is the content I want. Also how is it with all the add ons and the pricing. I have the base game
Right now there are no addons, just got released this week. But to my knowledge they plan on major extension per year for about 30€, ans smaller flavour packs (most likely regional stuff) for about 7 or 8 €. Depends on your region though.
1:40 That's not true, they moved waaaay west
I LOVE your channel and it's helped me to become a much better Civ player. But to compare this game to Civ 6 is a crime on the level of the Holocaust (or worse). In the Civilization series, it's "Build an Empire to stand the test of time." How you do it is up to you. Will your culture flourish and be the envy of the world? Will your scientists be respected among everyone? Will you just dominate anyone who opposes your will? Or will you be the peacemaker, allowing humanity to flourish as a species? Or will your religion be the guiding light to lead humanity to greatness? In CK3, it's "survive until 1453." Don't bother building an empire, because you won't be able to control it. You can't expand your culture or your faith (and in fact, if you're playing as a catholic, you actually LOSE the religion war.