VIRPIL CM3 Throttle Review! Worth the upgrade?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- Thanks for watching guys! Virpil finally added a detent/gate system to their flagship CM3 Throttle! Is it everything we hoped it would be?
Here is a breakdown if you want to skip to what interests you most.
0:00 Intro
1:55 Overview
2:55 Levers
3:24 Detent Choices
3:45 Cosmosim Detents
5:01 Warthog Style Detents
5:37 Classic Detents
6:12 Classic Plus Detents
6:27 Aerobatic Detents
7:06 Mixing & Markings
8:04 Final Thoughts
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See you in another 6 months when they release a new throttle with rumble and another axis 😅. Really though, Virpil does not stop trying to get better, it's great.
Still on cm3, no update @time😏
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My Constellation Alpha and CM3 arrived today.. What a game changer after using an X56 for 5 years.
I bought this after watching your previous reviews. The customizable detents are awesome. I am in love with it. I missed your videos
Mine arrived two weeks ago together with the Alpha stick. Its just an incredible difference to my old X55. I fly mostly DCS Jets and use a Classic Plus detent in the back and a Classic one at the front. Also I like the options the software gives you to adjust the axis and buttons to your needs. Now I am happily waiting for the Control Panel 2.
Best explanation of these features I've seen. Thanks for posting!
Glad it was helpful!
So good I bought it on the strength of your previous reviews, couldn't wait. It is way sturdier than it looks. The new detent system feels incredibly reliable, even for a heavy handed pilot who likes to really crank their throttle around (although I prefer a defter touch). This is my first Virpil device after I made the 'wallet friendly' decision to upgrade from my Thrustmaster HOSASAT setup, and so far I am completely blown away and will eventually be getting the Constellation Alpha L and R as well. Great review Jesse, top quality as always.
Awesome Duvoncho I'm glad you're enjoying yours! Thanks for the kind words too cheers!
Ordering both consoles and throttle next week! Thanks for the review boss!
Been looking forward to this. Saving up for one of these!
Same!
Finally, THE review ! Happy to see u again 💪
Thanks Kookyman!
I just paid for mine, they are building it now!
I saw you had another Video and was hoping it was on the CM3 Throttle - You DO NOT disappoint:)
Thanks Kern!
Have had mine for a few weeks, love it, + 1 for classic plus.
I have warthog for the cutoff idle and classic plus for After Burner. I like the small dent where the throttle can sit. The cool part is that the step from cutoff to idle and viceversa can be mapped to two buttons, so that you can map them
Great Products. Love the people who create this kind of.
YESSS new video ! i just got into elite dangerous and i can already see how hard it is to control fighters in dogfight without a hotas
Just order one. Thank you for your review and service 07!!
Awesome Necktie and thanks for yours!
Have that throttle already, but can't wait for your video on the upcoming collective!
Damn this looks so cool. Great vid! Ty
Your reviews are Super ! Excellent ! Bro . . Everything you apply yourself to is "Pro -Level" Thankyou for such high quaility content. . Anyone seeking some serious gaming goodness needs to come here . . . Im saving to buy one of these . thanks to you. . . Many thanks. . Ash . .
I have had this throttle for many months now and would "totally" recommend it above others - Verpil have me now as a very loyal and satisfied customer. . LOve It ! ! ! 🥰 🛫
I asked for it, and BOY it is finally here! liked before watching it
Haha ride to die! Appreciate it brother!
@@jessecalder Mine arrived two weeks ago, and it has been an absolute enjoyment. If I have to complain, it would be that I hope there is one more axis on the throttle. In DCS when you bind the only axis to zoom view, there is no more axis to bind the antenna elevation, and digital nobs are atrociously slow at it. There is the flaps axis but I think most people bind it to buttons like me. But for Star Citizen it is just impeccable.
Badass rundown. I'll be saving up for one of these bad boys!
just got my CM3 this week!
I have one of these see on order along with the warbrd base, a vfx grip and a constellation grip. I am going crazy waiting for it to arrive.
Upgraded from a CM with the pinky switch. The added throw alone is worth it. I use warthog detents for idle/cutoff and aerobatic for ab.
I'd have to agree with Jesse's assessment of the CM3. I've had mine for the last few weeks, and if you hadn't had the experience of using one. Its almost a bit polarizing migrating from another Eco-system. The CM3 is intentional and positive of the actions it employs. Sure the cost is steep, but worth it and the wait if you're in the market. Note- For those of you semi familiar with programming PLC's. Its a similar experience of I/O mapping from a PLC to an HMI (kind of). With that said, customization is vast to say the least. The hardware is robust and satisfying to Jesse's point, but for me. The next level is the software once you really understand it in depth. Be patient and enjoy.
Had no idea they were working on this, so was one of the unfortunate ones ordering a CM2 few months before the release of the CM3. Now I have a pretty long list of upgrades to go through before I'd find a CM3 upgrade worthwhile. Still very happy with the CM2 however, it's very high quality hardware and I've had zero issues with it so far.
Glad to see this as my complete HOTAS is in transit from Virpil now. Should be arriving next Tuesday to replace my TM Warthog setup.
Looking to use the Cosmo or Acrobatic setups for ED myself.
Exciting!
Operator Snake, there you go Sir! Very articulate. You know the gear, you know how to explain what's what and even give us examples of what you mean, what you're trying to get across. When you're finished, there's no doubt in our minds what we're spending our money on.
Integrity is the vibe you give off. So much so that the VPL devs are listening and responding to you. Wow.
I'm tellin' ya', class is in session when your videos come online.
Something I recall, "Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance." You definitely get that 'Prior Planning' executed well.
Thumbs up everybody, the least we can do for this Operator, to get those TH-cam algorithms goin'!
Incredibly kind Ron thank you man. Made my day with this brother!
@@jessecalder Ya' know, when we go to TH-cam for reviews for whatever we're interested in, it's priceless when you find someone that you can trust. You're one of those. I'm glad to have found you. Not just for the gear you're reviewing, but it's obvious you're a good man. It's a win-win to watch you. :) By the way, wasn't sure if you got the "6 P's" above. Long ago, that was one of the many sayings the Cadre's pounded into our heads. I've obviously never forgot that, for it was long ago. If I haven't thanked you for laying your life on that lethal line, let me do so now! Solid handshake, hug and salute to you! Keep the vids comin', be safe.
@@Ron-cz8bt I did notice ;D. Thank you for your service too brother. Always good to have another vet in the community. And as always very much appreciate the encouragement man. Firm handshakes and salutes all around!
This is the best review of this product. Very indepth and answers all the questions people would have. Ive seen a channel with over 1 million subs and his review is pretty lame.
Too kind HF thank you man!
Love your reviews...and thumbs up on the new intro. Been waiting this review from you. Thanks! Do you daisy chain your alphas with your throttle as well or are they on a separate daisy chain?
Thanks RL! So far I've only linked the throttle and button box mainly because my stick is center mounted and I remove it when not in use.
Absolutely fantastic review, great details, great close-up shots, love it.
Would love some more info on the configuration and the various switches and such aside from just the throttle detents / gates.
Thanks so much for the kind words jtcb! There is more info on the base of the throttle in my CM2 video along with some background on the two throttles before that if your interested.
@@jessecalder Will take a look; thanks.
I've got VKB sticks (as, y'know, they were in stock...) but would like to get something like this at some point.
Need to find a better chair with ability to center-mount one stick, or the throttle block. Preferably one where I can swap them around if I don't like that setup.
The monstertech chair looks cool, but also looks really uncomfortable compared to the lumbar support, cloth web mesh type office chairs :S
@@jtcbrown I can't compare to your specific chair but, for what it is worth, I can say I currently use the Monstertech chair daily and it is quite comfortable. Compared to my Secret Labs chair it is a fair bit more plush and has a bit more lumbar.
@@jessecalder Interesting; thank you. That was my big fear with the monstertech chair. It looks like the old school straight-backed chairs.
@@jtcbrown I have a review of the chair as well if you want to get a closer look at it if that helps.
Got me a CM3 a few weeks ago. It's dope af. Can't name anything I dislike about it. Primarily a DCS player. Came from a 16000m, ain't looking back.
Loved the video! I'm still sad Virpil won't be making a detent kit for the CM2, as that's the throttle I have and I just can't justify spending another $500+ of my currency to acquire what I'd consider more of a side-grade than an upgrade. But there are other 3D printed solutions for my problem.
Yeah that's definitely annoying if you already got the CM2. However for me, the lack of detent was a major item that stopped me buying the CM2. Now that the CM3 has the sexiest detents in town, I might just have to actually spend a couple months eating rice and beans in order to get it in my life. Then when the CM4 comes out with heated and cooled grips and automatic hand massage, we can both make the surprised Pikachu face together.
Thanks for walking me thru it all. Sold. But any suggestions on a desk mount for it?
Happy to help! Virpil sells good ones themselves. Monstertech are pricey but what I use.
My CM3 (and WarBRD base) just shipped today... Moving up from a t16000 and TWCS. Looking forward to trying to tame this beast! lol
That was a long time but thanks for mentioning!^^
I just got mine today and your video was very helpful. Care to do an update video on how you programmed your throttle? I know that it's subjective but it would be nice to have a starting point to go by.
Well, I’m glad I just bought one! Nice review Jesse.
Thanks Michael!
Do you have the Control Panel #1 mounted right behind the throttle, if so, how do the finger-lifts fit? My CM2 is tight as it is
@@dabneyoffermein595 No you can catch a glimpse of my button box location at about 8:50. Its behind the throttle at the moment. But the cockpit is always changing depending on gear. If you mount the box in front of the throttle I'd imagine you'd have to take the levers into account possibly.
@@jessecalder -- ok, thanks for that additional information, very helpful. I could also see if I can slide my throttle back some. I'm not sure if there is room on that adjustable bottom bracket but I'll check. That could give me a little more clearance. The throttle is back so far as it is with the virpil deskmount v3 (S) bracket, that it keeps me so far back from the monitors as it is now.
Hey Jesse, loving the new channel logo! Happy to see your review on this product as usual. I have a question again; would this this throttle be compatible with a left dominant user wanting to use it in their right hand? I've been on the fence about getting a throttle and some pedals for flying, because I also like to stand whilst playing SC/ED! Hope you and your family are safe and healthy, happy to see you back on here. o>
Hey Damey! I have to say I don't think it would work very ideally for a lefty. You could certainly manipulate the arms and levers comfortably so if that is your main goal that is doable. In fact I'd say it is more comfortable a grip when used with your right hand than a Warthog for instance. But you will likely give up a large number of functions on the 'thumb' side as you'll have to work those buttons, hats, and wheel blindly and in an odd leverage position which might make precise manipulation of a couple of them harder as well. Hope this is useful!
Thank you for the kind words Damey I appreciate it!
@@jessecalder yea that's kinda what I thought, thank you for responding. If I'm allowed to make recommendation, look at/reach out to blackhog panels btw. They might have some good stuff for your setup!
Nice to see you back again. Thanks for the review. I am an IL-2 pilot, in that sim i would like to have a detent for WEP setting. However, the power level is very different for WEP in different planes. 60-100% How much would you say it is possible to slide those detents up and down?
Tough to say but I'd guess you could probably get between that range, 60-90 or close to it.
The detents are a must have
Hey Jesse, awesome review; thank you! Are the two finger levers programable, or are they just for unlocking at the gates?
Thanks Andrew! To my knowledge they are not programable axis. Just mechanisms to interact with the detents and gates.
great video! have one question, do we know which materials the detents used? thanks!
I know this is kinda weird, but what I did is I put the classic detent on the afterburner, then I actually put a warthog detent backwards to make it higher on the throttle, what I do is keep the throttle below the first detent, mainly to make taxiing easier, and with the slope on the front of the warthog detent it makes me able to push through from idle to mil power with just a bit of difficulty, it's great
Also have had mine for a couple of weeks. It’s great except for an issue with an internal connector wire on the left throttle handle that prevents those buttons from functioning. Waiting to receive a new cable from Virpil.
I installed the aerobatic detent in the front for afterburner and classic plus in the back for idle cutoff.
Nice.
Thanks to your review of this throttle, I've just taken the plunge and ordered it! $650 CAD...most expensive upgrade for my DCS setup! :/ I'm sure it'll be worth it though!
How are you liking that
My one major gripe with my CM3 is the slider toggle where my middle finger wants to rest. Its very easy to move back and forth and I need at least one finger as leverage to pull the throttle back.
Here’s the problem, every time he reviews a product my wallet gets lighter
Haha just trying to share my wallet emptying passions so I'm not the only broke one!
I agree, made the decision to pick up a throttle a few days ago myself. Glad I did. I'm in the backorder line but after getting my Alpha's this will be the perfect addition. Cheers Jesse great vid thanks for the straight forward review and presentation of the features that were added to the throttle. The attention to detail in your camera angle selection is noted.
@@lostphotographs3936 Thank you LP! Its not easy to light and capture black on black bits that are small and imbedded into the moving parts but I tried. Appreciate the kind words man. Hope you get your gear soon and enjoy it!
@@jessecalder Yeah, again, the close-up camera work is great, really easy to see all the details. Much appreciated.
I'm in the same position, just recently got into space sims, found this channel and now I'm awaiting 2 Virpil Constellation Alphas, throttle, new desk and chair. RIP my wallet and thank you for the great videos.
So I saw that you can change the led color of the buttons on this, do you have to change them all to the same color or can you individually assign them?
With the gates can you set it up where the far rearward position is thrust reversers
Wtf lol I didn’t expect this production quality.
Hey Jesse, awesome work as always.
Just wondering how your CM3 is holding up? Do the detents still feel satisfying, or is anything becoming sloppy?
Not Jesse but I've had these for about a year. Been using cosmo detent almost exclusively and can say its still very much like new for me.
@@Kentaku3 that's great to hear, thanks
Do I need to order any cables from their website? I just placed an order for the warbrd base, alpha grip and the throttle. Do I need anything else?
If you were a stock, you'd be Tesla or Amazon, from 10 years ago. Extremely undervalued at 5k subs. Best production value and presentation skills in flight sim space, and getting better. This is the way.
You are too kind my friend! Too the moon! XD
Jesse, you have no power over me, with your cool reviews!
I only bought VKB pedals and a VKB Mk III stick after watching your vids but that's it!
XD
How do you like the 4-way/8-way hats on the throttle? Has there been any change compared to the CM2? I am not sure whether I heard it in your review or some other one, but as far as I know, these hats have a tactile click when you move them from the center in any direction, but afterwards you can spin the hat full 360 degrees around the outer edge without feeling any other click. I think this can cause the hats to be imprecise and it is a little worrying to me as I am used to regular hat switches where there is a tactile feedback in all of the 4 or 8 positions.
I have not experienced a click on the hats other than when you press it in for the button press.
What size bolts did you use to mount the cm3 to your stand? I know it has the 4 holes underneath but what size are they. Thanks
Just ordered this unit last week, watching those fabulous close-up shots and well structured review confirmes I made the right choice.
Awesome Hrannar so glad it was helpful in your choice! Hope you enjoy it!
the chair and mounts, what are those and where do I get them?!
Great Review !! Just awesome! Quick question. I have the CM2 throttle with the CP#1 mounted right behind it on the Virpil Deskmount v3. There's not much clearance when the throttle is all the way forward so I was wondering with those finger-lifts protruding out of the back of the CM3, would that be a no-go as far as the CP#1 fitting back there?
I can't guarantee anything without knowing your exact setup but what I can say is that when the throttle is pushed all the way forward the levers do not extend forward of the most forward part of the grip. They do dip below button deck a bit though. I can't imagine they or your fingers get hung up unless your button box is so close as to make plugging in the cables difficult.
@@jessecalder Thank you. Yea, the area of the cables is tight but not crazy. I will look a bit closer at it. I worry that when the levers (finger-release) come out or they are at their maximum distance away from the throttle posts, it would get in the way. I will use your reference points to do some measuring. Thanks again!
What system did you use to mount to your chair?
What attachment did you use for the chair? Was looking to purchase but monster tech didn't seem to have anything for the control panel. Did you use Virpils?
That was actually a Monstertech throttle plate (for a virpil throttle). I had and extra one laying around and the control panel is the same bolt pattern as the throttle so I just slapped it on the back side of the chair kit they offer.
9:05 Which design/brand of Throttle chair mount are you using? Been looking for a mount to put my throttle on for weeks!
Hey Slyder! That would be Monstertech!
I'm confused about the controls on the back side of the throttle - there are five various controls for 4 fingers. How do the fingers naturally map to the controls? Do you have only the pinkey on the left throttle or pinkey and ring finger?
Also, out of curiosity, is anyone using any button on the throttle as a DCS modifier? I currently use modifier on TWCS, two actually (I know, I overdid it, probably) and these are the buttons on my pinkey and ring finger. With this probably one modifier would be more than enough, but I can't see how the fingers map to the controls.
How well do the physical detents line up in DCS with the actual point the burners come in? For example on the warthog detent I assume they line up with the throttle stops in game perfectly for the A10. Do they also for the burners on the F18, F16 etc etc or is that something which needs tweaking in the virpil soft/firm(ware) on a profile basis per module?
The detents/gates can be physically moved forward and backward an inch or so. If you can't find the sweet spot with that then you'll have to get it close and then jump into the software and adjust it more there. Each game (and possibly each aircraft) is likely to have a different range so I have different profiles for each setup, though that does require a bit more work.
@@jessecalder thanks for replying, that's how I was hoping it would work which is great!
Is the ergonomic now better than in the cm2?
In your old review you mentioned, that those buttons and stuff on the backside of the throttle are too easily being pushed while using the throttle itself.
The grip section is unchanged so you still have to work a little to keep off the finger buttons during angry flying.
Great review, as allways. Thanks a lot! 👍🏻👍🏻
But would you upgrade from a CM2?
I mostly play Star Citizen and only every now and then DSC.
I created a virtual detent in the 50% position (all LEDs turn red) for SC.
Works fine for me.
For DCS a would reprogram that virtual detent to 80%, to see, when the AB kicks in.
No physicall feedback I know.
That is a tough one SP. I think if it were me I'd likely seek out the aftermarket systems that are out there for the CM2. I haven't used them myself yet but they seem quite good. Less choices but solid detents. Or upgrade and sell the CM2 to recover some of the cost.
Wanted to join and contribute but that 33 second 568726387416541 decibel level intro killed it for me. Good content non the less.
May want to check your audio setup my friend. All audio is mastered to be within a comfortable threshold for youtube and checked on several different devices ahead of publishing. The intro is 9 seconds but I do understand some folks can't tolerate any intros whatsoever on TH-cam. Thanks for the kind words non the less.
What does the "MODE" dail do? I have found my answer on Discord. It gives you 5 different setup of your buttons/dails on the base of the Mongoos :)
hello i have a very important question! i have the Thrustmaster warthog hotas and i wanna screw a virpil grip with (twist) on the tm base will the twist work ? with a thrustmaster base and a virpil grip ?
No I'm afraid not. You will be able to use some of the buttons but any extra axis that the Warthog does not have will not be usable.
@@jessecalder thank you very much :)
On a space sim like Star Citizen, what would/do you use the two throttles for? Wonder how we could benefit from the two throttles in a space sim.
no benefit at all... but the amount of buttons on this thing... :o
Waiting for your Winwing HOTAS review.
So I guess that when they release the new cyclic control I am gonna buy that as well 😂
did you get used to the size of the grip when it came to hitting the buttons on the front, also went back to see the throttle in the other video very sneaky will be keeping an I out in future.
The levers do help raise your fingers over the front buttons. haha yes keep your eyes peeled!
Would it be possible to go over how you have mapped those switches, knobs etc for the different games you play?
I'll try to get something out on that but it tends to be quite a 'pilot's preference' kind of a thing.
What mounts are you using to attach your HOTAS to your chair?
Those are the Monstertech chair mounts.
Ah man, I was going to write you yesterday asking for the CM3 review! Just ordered CM3 + Alpha !
Excellent hope you enjoy them Lucas!
For anyone that owns one of these, do they come with a daisy chain auxiliary cable? Or is that a separate purchase item? I can't find a package content list on the site.
The button boxes come with them. To my knowledge the stick bases and throttle do not. I would contact Virpil to confirm tho.
@@jessecalder thanks for the reply! Still waiting on my constellation and cm3 throttle. Can throttle and stick be chained together or is it just the button boxes?
If you link the controls together doesn't that limit the availability of creating virtual axis? That is the problem I'm facing right now. If I link my throttle and control panel together I have 3 dials that I can only use as buttons and not as virtual axis.
I got the throttle disappointing not all the buttons work. Yea yeah I know there is a fix whatever game wise DCS throttle and zoom axis work but after matching the toggle switches to the F16 switches in DCS was sweet but next time i played the game the mapping was gone! My older flight sims only the axis works buttons do not. The lock failed I needed to use a high end zip tie to keep the right and left throttle working. I ended up going back to my saitek x52 throttle it works on everything. The throttle will not run on the new version of BMS 4.36 the throttle goes into full after burner crash F16's unless you find a program called alternative something. I fell for the Virpil crowd it is well built but naaah.
I'm waiting for the vkb throttle to come out with theirs before I decide
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I was wondering if you have or had the same problem as me. The throttle is weird in being power change isn't linear. Once you come off center the throttle ramps up to full automatically. To return to see throttle I have to pull the throttle all the way back AND return to center. If I leave it what should be zero throttle reverse thrust activates. To get back to zero throttle in reverse I have to do the same thing go to 100% throttle and back to center. I want it to operate like a normal throttle and a button to activate reverse thrust. Any suggestions would be welcomed.
Often times the sensor is more sensitive than we need it to be. It happens quite often with stick bases as well. I would recommend starting with adjusting your deadzone to be a bit larger. You probably only have to increase it one or two units (decimals) to get it to stop registering movement smaller than we can even detect as humans. If that doesn't work I would certainly contact customer service to see if they can help you narrow the issue down.
@@jessecalder I'd like it to operate like a normal throttle you know 0 to 100 with 50 at the center. And being able to use a button to switch to reverse thrust. Sorry if I'm not explaining it properly.
Unfortunately it doesn't come to Brazil, they don't deliver here in Brazil.
I really wanted one of these, but they don't deliver in Brazil.
im waiting for vkb tecs
What I don't understand with the detents is how they are practical for DCS. In DCS a lot of the jets have different % of throttle inputs when the afterburner is activated. I guess my option then is to just remove the detents then?
You’ve got to create a profile for the jet you wish to fly and calibrate the throttle range for it. If it doesn’t line up with a different aircraft you’d repeat the process (new profile) for that aircraft and so on. Just select the profile you want to use appropriate for the plane you’ll be flying.
@@jessecalder Alright man, thank you very much for the response.
My issue with my cm3 is the sync issues between the arms
Love my CM3 but still, the VIRPIL software does not allow you more than 4 axis to button customizable range which is a big problem.
I'm looking at potentially picking one of these up, can you clarify what you mean?
Are you looking forward to the VKB TECS launch? :)
Of course!
How are you using the detents in ED? Just curious? 70% Detent and a reverse detent?
I have been using the cosmo at 0 throttle (50%?) currently. But I should play around with that combo.
@@jessecalder Btw, continue the twitch, and more on the TH-cam. Quality you release in is impeccable !
@@beardpwn282 Thank you brother appreciate it. I'll keep at it!
Amazing vid as always Jesse many thanks, just a little feedback not overly keen on the lighting makes it bit tough to watch, it's almost like in mist I'm 38 getting old now mate and my eyes aren't what they were lol 👴🏻
The youtube compression works some vids a bit harder than others and it does affect the contrast a bit. But what is really important here is that 38 is not old! It can't be otherwise I'm even older!
@@jessecalder haha least you look good you'll be one of those dashing silver fox types when you finally go grey 😂 appreciate the response to the feedback 👍🏻
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
HOTAS or HOSAS, the eternal question. This has me leaning back towards a throttle...
It is a difficult choice Rory. The only way to avoid it is with a HOTSAS I'm afraid.
A powered USB hub goes a long way toward solving a lack of USB ports. It's what I use on my system to connect all of my flight sim gear.
I've got a 10 stack filled already!
I need to upgrade my CM2 now !!! C'mon Virpil sell it for the old users please.
For crying out loud! Please stop it with these annoyingly well done reviews! You've already cost me big time with the Constellation Alpha & WarBRD, now I've had to go & do it again with the CM3 Throttle! Honestly, I do appreciate the comprehensive reviews that you produce. Keep 'em coming!
(But let my wallet catch it's breath first though!!)
Thanks for watching Keith! I’m only the messenger 😂! But I do appreciate the kind words man thank you!
Another awesome review! Unfortunately, your CM2 review was so good that I've got one clamped to my desk now. Can't justify $400+ for a center detent. :|
Thanks Mark!! I hear that but look for some after market 3D printed addons for the CM2 and throttle detents. There are actually a pretty good option or two out there!
Just sell the cm2
The detent paddles look really far apart. Looks uncomfortable to reach both paddles at the same time while in the heat of the moment in DCS going in and out of burner frequently. Looks like an awkward reach with that gap in between the two
Bro... where have you been?! We were getting worried.
Just a busy first quarter of 2021 but not to worry! Many more videos cookin already!
Just got this, the throttle itself is good but the buttom placement needs more work. You're not going to believe this but I consider the Saitek X-56 design better than this. With that said, of course Logitech's implementation stinks.
Even the Warthog is a little better. The reason being there are SO MANY buttons in the front of the darn thing ON THE WAY, that you can't change thrust without hitting something unintentionally, in my case the 2 way hat, which is mapped to air brakes.
The two wheels should be axis instead of buttons, there should be 8 shiftable buttons instead of 6 because T3 and T4 pretty much are the only reachable ones, T1 and T2 are useless and the knobs on the base should also be axes. This is how the X-56 was configured. So it's not a windows limitation.
So yes, there should be a proper X-66 with properly built hardware.
I do like the software that most dread though, plenty of customization.
The Russians have captured a large part of the market for high-precision and high-performance flight simulation systems! They are head and shoulders above everyone else, like Cougar / TM, CH, Saitek, etc..
No left handed version.....