@David Mclukie i have a 2kw very loud on start up. The quietest setting is at 8degrees. Totally agree the bigger heaters are quieter. But the 2kw are more efficient. She hardly smokes a 2kw heater
I really like this Lavaner heater . You get so much more for so little extra cash . Quiet bearings . A robust wiring loom with quality connections . A properly balanced fan which over time will reduce shaft and bearing wear . I have already installed a cheap £90 Jobby which is fine but if it goofs up I’m sure to be going for one of these. Thanks for the content it’s really helpful 👍
This one is the one that would benefit from adding a computer power supply to run it ether battery or mains lol as you would put it so you can run it off the yeti or jackary
Great Video sir, Looking to buy a diesel heater for my Transporter T6 and considering the Lavaner Pro 2kw. Do you still rate these? also you said at end of video some tweaks you could make, what are they? Thanks
Hi David, I’m an avid watcher of your videos. I’m struggling to find some information… I have a 2KW Vevor heater with one of JBS’s silent pumps fitted. What internal (combustion chamber) temperatures should I be seeing at both low and high fan speeds. There’s lots of info for this on 5KW heaters but not much on 2KW. Thanks, Chris
I'm presuming you mean housing temperature? Unless you've drilled a hole to probe internal temperatures? In which case it's the same for the smaller heater. If memory serves me the ECU throttles back at about 200ºC. You'll want it as hot as possible while keeping the CO output low.
@ Yes, I think that’s what I meant. I have a 3 button controller but one of the units it displays while the heater is running is a high temperature number. It was around 116°C on high (H6) with the JBS silent pump on the ‘factory arrow’. I turned the pot right down and this reading dropped to around 100°C. Turned it right up and it got to around 160°C which I still feel is a bit low
David, just ordered a Lavaner 5kw. I've not really got a way to mount my fuel pump outside and also have to put the heater under my bed in my RV as there is nowhere else suitable. Will the sound be tolerable or will I need to do some heavy duty muffling of the pump and exhaust?
Good question. Firstly I only have one whole 2KW heater and that is the Lavaner. Secondly the 2KWs always sound louder than the 5KW. So if a 2KW Lavaner sounds about as loud as a standard 5KW then we can infer that it will sound quieter than a standard 2KW. Hopefully that made sense.
Do you have any experience with the lcd controllers with the cylindrical plug. I believe the fan, glowplug, pump are all displayed in small red symbols on the bottom of the screen. Seems like all the 2kw I can find are shipping with those style now and I wonder if you can do the fine tuning with that style. I also seen a video someone recently posted they had the 4 button (Non screen) remote control with theirs but they didn't use it to start it up. That would be nice if I could get a remote for that style controller. My hopefully true 2kw heater is on the way, been a bear to confirm the 5kw listings vs 2kw.
Where would you find a registered or reliable installer of a lavaner? If never manage myself and would be nervous about randomly choosing one after heading about bad experiences have due to poor installation. Also for a Berlingo lwb.. is it better outside or would under the driver's seat be the better option?
@@DavidMcLuckie thanks I'll check again. Was trying to freeze the video to see a few. Also. Better inside or outside? Have also heard people recommend burning kerosene rather than dip into the diesel tank. ? Any opinions on this?
In my experience the case of these heaters are plastic. I've noticed that a lot of speakers are made of plastic too these days. Fans emit a wide spectrum of sound frequencies, some of which are undoubtably resonating with the heater case. I'm guessing most of the noise is from this. They make sound deadening stuff intended for cars. Thin stuff and with a sticky back. Might be worth an experiment. :)
The problem I can see with that is that is a tar based product. So you'd basically be wrapping your heater in a type of fuel. Granted it would have to go seriously wrong the catch fire, but I don't think it needs to be too warm to soften it.
Mount the heater in a box with openings for air in and out then cover the box with sheep’s wool batting this will quieten it and be safe . That pesky pump is the most annoying noise
Could you explain, why, in nearly all of your heaters videos, your heaters are connected to the much hated (by some) 4mm ID fuel? Have you done, or plan to do, a video comparing the two fuel lines on the performance outcome of these heaters?
@@DavidMcLuckie Will be interesting to see if your testing confirms, or not, my own casual observations, so much so, that I just subscribed to your channel. Cheers.
Hi. Love your videos. I'm trying to decide whether I want one of these in my SWB low roof campervan due to safety and fire hazard . I'm nearly convinced then at the end you mentioned bursting into flames then I'm back to square one 😆. How common is that and what prevents it or causes it? Thanks
To my knowledge none of them have actually burst into flames. Some peoples installations and shoddy wiring yes, but the actual heater itself, not so much.
He was joking with the burst into flames bit. I think these are the safest way to heat a van if properly installed. Far cheaper to run than electric or lpg/calor gas .
I also find that (@ 7:25) wine🍷 has an effect on how loud things are. Apparently I get louder, but to me everything else gets quieter. Far safer to drink beer 🍺 Agree with the other comments here about wanting a tour of your motor home please.
Hi David i have the 2kw lavaner and I have E-03 glow plug open circuit but I have tested the glow plug and it works fine do you now what can be the problem.?
If the glow plug tests good. Then it can only be the connection on the ECU or the ECU itself. Just message Craig on their Facebook page and they'll sort you out.
I have an 8.5' X 18' X 6.5' (outside dimensions) cargo trailer I'm converting into a camping trailer. Finished inside dimensions will be 8' X 16' X 6.5 for a total of 832 cu.ft. I'm trying to figure out which unit I should purchase that will efficiently heat that living space. I'm leaning towards the 2 Kw heater but I'm afraid I would have to run it on high speed the whole time and I don't want to do that. Any suggestions or real world experiences with this scenario? And yes I'm in the United States!
@@pauls466 Thanks for your response! I have 1 inch insulation on walls and 2 inch on ceiling but definitely no arctic camping! Hoping to camp in the Western US someday and that would be at high altitude for sure! Lol
@@alanosborne1947 Ok . Keep in mind that for every 1000 feet once above 2500 you have to lower the pump hz ( reduce the fuel to air mix) by a 4% , thus you lower the max output kw as well. PS Lavaner has a Alpine model as well , that does reduces the mix automatically. whatever you buy stay safe and warm Grts Paul.
Can't make a judgement on the sound myself (shitty tinny laptop speakers and all), but the Lavaner does seem to be less noisy than the cheapie, but not hearing it in person I couldn't say for sure... :)
The 2kw and 5kw have the same size fan. The 2kw has a narrower inlet/outlet however and is louder. JMcK has proven this as well so it's not opinion or conjecture.
Their facebook page is the best place to start. facebook.com/Lavaner-Pro-Diesel-Heater-106624824474845 There is a UK company that fits them to campers - facebook.com/NHFSMi?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyMjI4NTcxOTk4NTEwMTFfMjIzMTg3OTE2NDg0NjA2
In general a 2 kw seem to be a lot louder than the 5kw , thus if this 2kw Lavaner is quieter than a regular 5kw , than that is a BIG improvement .
@David Mclukie i have a 2kw very loud on start up. The quietest setting is at 8degrees. Totally agree the bigger heaters are quieter. But the 2kw are more efficient. She hardly smokes a 2kw heater
I really like this Lavaner heater . You get so much more for so little extra cash . Quiet bearings . A robust wiring loom with quality connections . A properly balanced fan which over time will reduce shaft and bearing wear . I have already installed a cheap £90 Jobby which is fine but if it goofs up I’m sure to be going for one of these. Thanks for the content it’s really helpful 👍
What are the stock Hz and Rpm settings for High and Low on your unit?
Great video as always 👍 i don't suppose you have any good settings for the 5kw in use with the afterburner?
As no two heater setups are completely identical, I always recommend everyone tunes their own setup.
How is the noise level of Lavaner Pro 2KW compared to the one you magic motor re-built with Japanese EZO bearings?
This one is the one that would benefit from adding a computer power supply to run it ether battery or mains lol as you would put it so you can run it off the yeti or jackary
Great Video sir, Looking to buy a diesel heater for my Transporter T6 and considering the Lavaner Pro 2kw. Do you still rate these? also you said at end of video some tweaks you could make, what are they? Thanks
Hi David, I’m an avid watcher of your videos.
I’m struggling to find some information…
I have a 2KW Vevor heater with one of JBS’s silent pumps fitted.
What internal (combustion chamber) temperatures should I be seeing at both low and high fan speeds.
There’s lots of info for this on 5KW heaters but not much on 2KW.
Thanks,
Chris
I'm presuming you mean housing temperature? Unless you've drilled a hole to probe internal temperatures? In which case it's the same for the smaller heater. If memory serves me the ECU throttles back at about 200ºC. You'll want it as hot as possible while keeping the CO output low.
@ Yes, I think that’s what I meant. I have a 3 button controller but one of the units it displays while the heater is running is a high temperature number. It was around 116°C on high (H6) with the JBS silent pump on the ‘factory arrow’. I turned the pot right down and this reading dropped to around 100°C. Turned it right up and it got to around 160°C which I still feel is a bit low
do you all noticed the Audi logo on the fuel tank ? 😆
I didn't recognize you in the video. I was hoping to see the control panel on the Lavaner Pro.
It's just the same panel as the normal LCD controllers.
David, just ordered a Lavaner 5kw. I've not really got a way to mount my fuel pump outside and also have to put the heater under my bed in my RV as there is nowhere else suitable. Will the sound be tolerable or will I need to do some heavy duty muffling of the pump and exhaust?
You'll hear the pump clicking. Lots of people have lots of methods for silencing the pump. A quiet pump is now available though.
Dave, will the Eberspacher controller work with the Lavaner pro?
Hi David. Any chance of trying to make the exhaust note slightly quieter? There must be a way to make it more stealthy 🤷♂️
I have something I'm going to try very soon. :)
If you add a second muffler it drops the sound by about 5 db.
Sweet jumper bro
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I’m confused. Why did you compare a 2kw lavaner to a 5kw CDH and not a 2kw CDH? Surely it would’ve been a fairer comparison to a 2kw CDH.
Good question. Firstly I only have one whole 2KW heater and that is the Lavaner. Secondly the 2KWs always sound louder than the 5KW. So if a 2KW Lavaner sounds about as loud as a standard 5KW then we can infer that it will sound quieter than a standard 2KW. Hopefully that made sense.
Do you have any experience with the lcd controllers with the cylindrical plug. I believe the fan, glowplug, pump are all displayed in small red symbols on the bottom of the screen. Seems like all the 2kw I can find are shipping with those style now and I wonder if you can do the fine tuning with that style. I also seen a video someone recently posted they had the 4 button (Non screen) remote control with theirs but they didn't use it to start it up. That would be nice if I could get a remote for that style controller.
My hopefully true 2kw heater is on the way, been a bear to confirm the 5kw listings vs 2kw.
I haven't had a heater yet with the round plug.
Where would you find a registered or reliable installer of a lavaner? If never manage myself and would be nervous about randomly choosing one after heading about bad experiences have due to poor installation.
Also for a Berlingo lwb.. is it better outside or would under the driver's seat be the better option?
I'm sure on the Lavaner Facebook page they've got a list of the UK credited installers.
@@DavidMcLuckie thanks I'll check again. Was trying to freeze the video to see a few.
Also. Better inside or outside? Have also heard people recommend burning kerosene rather than dip into the diesel tank. ? Any opinions on this?
Any chance of a look at the campervan?
Ah well. There is a problem with that. We sold it last year. Best I can do is voice over a montage of all the pictures I took along the way.
First the orange overalls and now you've sold the campervan! When will this madness ever end?!?!
In my experience the case of these heaters are plastic. I've noticed that a lot of speakers are made of plastic too these days.
Fans emit a wide spectrum of sound frequencies, some of which are undoubtably resonating with the heater case.
I'm guessing most of the noise is from this.
They make sound deadening stuff intended for cars. Thin stuff and with a sticky back. Might be worth an experiment. :)
The problem I can see with that is that is a tar based product. So you'd basically be wrapping your heater in a type of fuel. Granted it would have to go seriously wrong the catch fire, but I don't think it needs to be too warm to soften it.
@@DavidMcLuckie The old ones were but newer materials exist. However, my noise point remains. Thanx DM :)
on the outside yes!
@@DavidMcLuckie can say that roofing tar strips are amazing at sound reduction. They do melt off surfaces on a hot day though
Mount the heater in a box with openings for air in and out then cover the box with sheep’s wool batting this will quieten it and be safe . That pesky pump is the most annoying noise
Are you going to do a strip down and compair to a cdh? O just found the other vid lol
Can you make a video show how to reduce the heat even lower than the 8c it allows you to set?
it doesn't work that way . A you have to run it in hz mode but you can't go lower than idle
Could you explain, why, in nearly all of your heaters videos, your heaters are connected to the much hated (by some) 4mm ID fuel? Have you done, or plan to do, a video comparing the two fuel lines on the performance outcome of these heaters?
That could be a video I can do.
@@DavidMcLuckie Will be interesting to see if your testing confirms, or not, my own casual observations, so much so, that I just subscribed to your channel. Cheers.
Hi.
Love your videos.
I'm trying to decide whether I want one of these in my SWB low roof campervan due to safety and fire hazard . I'm nearly convinced then at the end you mentioned bursting into flames then I'm back to square one 😆. How common is that and what prevents it or causes it?
Thanks
To my knowledge none of them have actually burst into flames. Some peoples installations and shoddy wiring yes, but the actual heater itself, not so much.
@@DavidMcLuckie Thanks. You've put my mind at rest
He was joking with the burst into flames bit. I think these are the safest way to heat a van if properly installed. Far cheaper to run than electric or lpg/calor gas .
Who is this imposter? I only know a David that wears orange overalls
All back to normal today. Wet, windy and cold.
I also find that (@ 7:25) wine🍷 has an effect on how loud things are. Apparently I get louder, but to me everything else gets quieter. Far safer to drink beer 🍺
Agree with the other comments here about wanting a tour of your motor home please.
What you said. I want to see where his workshop is in the van. :)
Ah well. There is a problem with that. We sold it last year. Best I can do is voice over a montage of all the pictures I took along the way.
Hello! Where did you find that fuel tank and what's the capacity?
That is a tank that came inside an all-in-one heater. I think it's a 5L capacity.
Hi David i have the 2kw lavaner and I have E-03 glow plug open circuit but I have tested the glow plug and it works fine do you now what can be the problem.?
If the glow plug tests good. Then it can only be the connection on the ECU or the ECU itself. Just message Craig on their Facebook page and they'll sort you out.
I have an 8.5' X 18' X 6.5' (outside dimensions) cargo trailer I'm converting into a camping trailer. Finished inside dimensions will be 8' X 16' X 6.5 for a total of 832 cu.ft. I'm trying to figure out which unit I should purchase that will efficiently heat that living space. I'm leaning towards the 2 Kw heater but I'm afraid I would have to run it on high speed the whole time and I don't want to do that. Any suggestions or real world experiences with this scenario? And yes I'm in the United States!
it all depends on your insulation / outside temperature and altitude But I guess that a 2kw will do unless you you go artic
@@pauls466 Thanks for your response! I have 1 inch insulation on walls and 2 inch on ceiling but definitely no arctic camping! Hoping to camp in the Western US someday and that would be at high altitude for sure! Lol
@@alanosborne1947 Ok . Keep in mind that for every 1000 feet once above 2500 you have to lower the pump hz ( reduce the fuel to air mix) by a 4% , thus you lower the max output kw as well. PS Lavaner has a Alpine model as well , that does reduces the mix automatically. whatever you buy stay safe and warm Grts Paul.
Aww look at you all helping each other out in the chat. I like that.
Does it work with the afterburner controller?
I can't believe I haven't actually plugged it in yet.
@@DavidMcLuckie you can do it, plug it in , give it a try, you know you want to 🤣
@@DavidMcLuckie Big mistake :)
@@DavidMcLuckie this makes me sad :(
Can't make a judgement on the sound myself (shitty tinny laptop speakers and all), but the Lavaner does seem to be less noisy than the cheapie, but not hearing it in person I couldn't say for sure... :)
The 2kw and 5kw have the same size fan. The 2kw has a narrower inlet/outlet however and is louder. JMcK has proven this as well so it's not opinion or conjecture.
A better test would be to have both sizes of heaters installed so you could only hear the heaters.
Any word on where to get a lavener diesel heater in the uk???
Their facebook page is the best place to start. facebook.com/Lavaner-Pro-Diesel-Heater-106624824474845
There is a UK company that fits them to campers - facebook.com/NHFSMi?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyMjI4NTcxOTk4NTEwMTFfMjIzMTg3OTE2NDg0NjA2
does it adjust automatically for altitude?
The Lavaner Alpine is the one that adjusts for altitude/elevation.
@@DavidMcLuckie Thank you!
I'm interested in the one with heat exchange built in but waiting for someone other than Ali because I've not bought from them. They safe?
I've bought a few things and they've all arrived. They also have a thing where the seller doesn't get paid until you are happy with the products.
@@DavidMcLuckie thanks Dave. Do you think it's worth waiting for Geek, Wish, Amazon for the one with heat exchange? Thinking about saving a quid. Jace
It's doubtful it will end up on there. There isn't a huge market for it.
@@DavidMcLuckie ok cheers Dave.
Got mine from Ali, works just fine out the box
Hi are you using dipatene in your fuel
I've tried a bottle in my Hilux, can't say I've noticed anything.
@@DavidMcLuckie yes me to have a hyundai and to be honest I can't i wonder if that would make the diesel heaters run cleaner
It claims a more complete burn, so in theory should result in a cleaner for longer heater.
Prefer the sound of the 5KW