@@7_dropademon i suggest you to go and buy the jim root instruction video by fret12 or watch some live videos and then you'll see that jim is harmonise the intro of the song. Until then, SHUT UP ALL OF YOU!!!!
I've never really understood why people are surprised that sticking ridiculously powerful active EMG pickups in a telecaster sounds heavy, the body shape isn't going to turn everything into country
He didn't forget shit, just had to get a feel for pinch harmonics with that terrible tone. Plus the bit at the end was from another part of the masterclass
LOL, he actually probably forgot, and quickly refreshed his memory. Yes the feel for 'pinch harmonics, but at that level its second nature, so no excuses there. AND the tone was made by him before that do the shoot, all artists dial in their settings on the set amp before a shoot. That is basically the tone that gets recorded, except with more bottom end and a meatier range of frequencies that are required to mix with drums. So that is actually about the tone he plays with,
His reaction instantly made me smile, as it was real - I can imagine the pressure to play something perfect while being filmed 1 on 1 must be worse than the pressure of playing live in a band.. idk but I can imagine that
I wouldn't say that's him forgetting. Pinch harmonics can sound cool but they can really be hit or miss. If you want the exact same sound every time you attempt to do the same pinch harmonic, you have to find where exactly you played it before, also, your guitar and the effects, amp, and cab can also greatly affect the sound and positioning of the pinch harmonic.
At the beginning, you can hear a quiet "go". Some say it was merely a person behind the cameras. I say it was Corey's muffled "go" from Before I Forget reaching forward from the darkest recesses of Jim's mind.
We need to see more videos like this, it makes us players realise that even band members make mistakes and struggle sometimes. It shows us they are human like everyone else.
He's allowed to forget. With all the Slipknot, Stone Sour and songs he just likes to play it's a lot to remember. I used to know a couple hundred songs. I'm lucky if I remember 50 of them. Look at bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, they're always having to relearn their own songs. Hence why they usually play them differently because they pretty much tab their own songs by ear.
i like the james root guitar playing because he is more of freedom playing just at live show he don`t bother to torcher himself to play every solo exactly the same as the album but he play from where he feels right.
@@brodyschriefer7243 I know man I was just joking around. Telecasters have a really cool sound. But it used to be associated more with a twangy country style. I like the crossover
I mean it's not like he's playing an ordinary Telecaster. He's got EMG 81s in there, you could basically put those inside of a hollowbody from the 1920s and it would sound moderately heavy
To be fair most musicians are like this from what I've seen. Especially the ones who have as many songs as Jim does to remember. Ive seen videos where they come up with the set list and have to relearn the songs because they haven't played them in years
I can hear him remembering it and gaining traction with it hahaha. That's awesome. I bet 5 more minutes and it would be perfect. And god that tone is perfect the whole way through even with the mistakes.
Composing a song that way might work if you're in a rock band. The most out of the box way to possibly compose is to compose melodies in your head. Learn music theory and notation and then notate the score. You'll come up with lots more interesting things than you would just improvising. Because improvising usually leads to going by patterns you're already comfortable with. Writing your ideas out as sheet music is a much more organized and reliable way of composing.
I like the band thing on his picking hand. I want one, I'd think it help me alot from losing grip of the pick during songs. I wonder where I could find one.
in the full magazine lesson, he states he in not "a learned guitar player" and that he just improvises most solos live. with no practice before an actual show
@MatthewUrsaki haha offend me? No. He used to use Jacksons, PRS, etc and now has the signature tele. It has EMG's, which is a huge part of lots of metal players tones
Can’t believe when this song came out I was like “oh shit slip knot has a comeback” as a teenager being a fan of their 90’s stuff and now I’m just in the same bandwagon of “fuck, this song came out like 10 years ago..”
ppl are like heavy telecaster blah blah blah, a guitar is a empty shell you can make it sound the way you just like zakk wylde makes acoustic sound for example
I never said I was better than him, nor did I take credit for the creation of any part of the song. However, I have personally tabbed out riffs that are at least 2x as intricate. Any one who has played for over a year wouldn't be surprised by this, since this song is exceptionally simple. I know now that the guitar was in a different tuning, (drop B) instead of drop A. I give him props for knowing to play 2 frets higher up on the neck, but that doesn't make him a genius.
@V3xify yea he is playing the right notes, he didnt forget how to play it. You can see by his finger placement. Its the "sweet spot" to hit the harmonic he's looking for.
@tgei346 Its pinch harmonic , squeals . When you pick the string you slightly touch it with your thumb and bend the string,also make sure your distortion(gain etc.) is high. theres great lessons on here, hope it helps.
That's not completely true... I have his $1200 flat white fender telecaster and it has an ebony fretboard. When this one has a maple one like his black model...
Riff Bandz. It's essentially a rubber band that goes around your fingers and pulls them together. You need to work harder to use them. It trains your fingers. Either that or it's a hair elastic.
audio is pretty real, look for jim root masterclass for guitarpart magazine, he just didnt quite get the right pitch on the note and then proceeded to repeat the part till he got it right :3
@Mayfield1114 you re right about that. The centipede began to fall the day he tried to understand how it walks...forgive my poor english...and if you don't believe me i shot it, look at the other videos i did, and specially "Alela Diane" which has no logos (i'm the only one that could have this version, before been released in the DVD with the logos). In the same room we shot Rob Flynn too (machine head). We did Phil Demmel (machine head too) but this video has not been released on DVD yet.
kitramsey5150 exactly this. It's the same reason why a lot of musicians will say they need to go learn their songs when they put out new albums before they tour. A lot of playing guitar is just muscle memory
@V3xify yea if you take a look at where his fingers are you will obviously see he is playing the correct notes, its the pinch harmonic that throws him off. Hes trying to find the ''sweet spot'' to hit the harmonic.
as a guitar player im going to say that he was playing it right its just the amp he was using that made it sound really different. he probably had his telecaster along with some random amp they had for this video instead of his whole guitar rig. remember its not just the guitar and your skills that is important but it is also the gear you use. any famous guitar player will tell you that. the gear is what creates the sound along with the guitar pickups. combine those with skill and there you go.
i did actually, i can't tab it out here though on youtube though. it's an admittedly typical arrangement in pentatonic A minor though, so you're not missing much. sounds badass like other pentatonic A minor songs though, like this one.
Yes, my first example was going to be the riff from Meshuggah's 'Bleed' haha. Yes, I suppose I know what you mean. No doubt it is one tasty, chunky riff, and I love it. It just isn't the first riff that springs to mind when I think 'heaviest', but I do listen to a LOT of metal, and that's a lot of riffs.
@MetalMakesMeEargasm Actually Jim AND Mick fuck up the solo pretty good with several notes when they play live in a video on youtube (But the song goes about x1.5 original speed so I don't blame them, and I can't play the solos in that song at all!)
he will remember before he forgets
.....omg
The Hazza You fucking didn't
For him All hope is gone
well everything ends, except pi that shit goes on and on
ja!!!! brilliant
he didnot forget.... he was tryin to get the pinch harmonics right
+Prabhav Pariyar and that is harder than it may seem!
***** exactly
Prabhav Pariyar Drop A Tuning. 6th fret on the 4th string. Perfect spot for pick squealing
That tuning I find it very easy
@@darktempest53 its drop a
after 11 years this video is still popular, let me explain, he didn't forget, he's trying to play mick's intro :D
honestly didn’t even consider this
@@rodrigobravo5704 its crazy how one person who is educated says something. Then everyone else follows along like they know what they speak of
@@rodrigobravo5704 don,t feed the trolls..
no he’s not, he was trying to get the pinch harmonics right
@@7_dropademon i suggest you to go and buy the jim root instruction video by fret12 or watch some live videos and then you'll see that jim is harmonise the intro of the song. Until then, SHUT UP ALL OF YOU!!!!
I've never really understood why people are surprised that sticking ridiculously powerful active EMG pickups in a telecaster sounds heavy, the body shape isn't going to turn everything into country
Right?
Like do they know how the sound is made on electric guitars?
@@sanny8716 body shape. Flame decals also effect the sound a lot.
@@HenchGuyBlast On a solid body they have pretty much zero effect on the sound
@@sanny8716 that flew over your head.
@@sonofromel Nah, you're giving that person too much credit
He quickly refreshed his memories before he forget that
His dead memories
He never forgot tho lol
@@michaelblakley845 looks like someone didn't understand the joke
So one of the heaviest sounding guitars I've ever heard is a Fender Telecaster...
With EMG Pickups
Dylan Hickey I know, just saying
Attila Felföldi 🐃
actually jim roots olnly uses fender guitars as far as i know
Az biztos
men learn to play pyschosocial
legends forget how to play pyschosocial
I forgot most of what guitarists will ever learn
Bum be kabrak
@@mrsimpleslowmo bumbe yarak
they have a lot of better songs
sometimes they even forget how to spell it
He didn't forget shit, just had to get a feel for pinch harmonics with that terrible tone. Plus the bit at the end was from another part of the masterclass
Finowa
LOL, he actually probably forgot, and quickly refreshed his memory. Yes the feel for 'pinch harmonics, but at that level its second nature, so no excuses there. AND the tone was made by him before that do the shoot, all artists dial in their settings on the set amp before a shoot. That is basically the tone that gets recorded, except with more bottom end and a meatier range of frequencies that are required to mix with drums. So that is actually about the tone he plays with,
Plus he fucks up live all the time and doesn't give one shit. Fucking love Jim, he's grunge as fuck
No, he's playing through one of those combo amps in this vid. Live he does though
Which is forgetting, dumbass.
His reaction instantly made me smile, as it was real - I can imagine the pressure to play something perfect while being filmed 1 on 1 must be worse than the pressure of playing live in a band.. idk but I can imagine that
You're 100% right
I wouldn't say that's him forgetting.
Pinch harmonics can sound cool but they can really be hit or miss. If you want the exact same sound every time you attempt to do the same pinch harmonic, you have to find where exactly you played it before, also, your guitar and the effects, amp, and cab can also greatly affect the sound and positioning of the pinch harmonic.
Also known as "knowing how to play"
in the full video he implies that he might have forgotten how to play it
Or guitar must be perfectly set up.
@@Miscio94 do you even play guitar😂
This is BS. True for a beginner, not true at all for any experienced guitar player. The nodes on the string don't move.
At the beginning, you can hear a quiet "go". Some say it was merely a person behind the cameras. I say it was Corey's muffled "go" from Before I Forget reaching forward from the darkest recesses of Jim's mind.
no it was his voice cut
@@irina0084 No, it was a manifestation of Corey telepathically opening the song for Jim
But, he can play Smoke on the Watter?
Angel Alvarado
No, bet I bet he can play Smoke On The Water
Off course
Nope
@@AceKidd-iq3vi Smoke on the watter is the Yorkshire version.......it's usually pronounced "smoke on t' watter"
Of course he can’t! What kind of stupid ass question is that??
Would be very ironic if it was "Before I forget" that Jim forgot
he's cool as hell, when he was 16 and blowing minds he was friendly to everyone at shows and the guitar shop...
We need to see more videos like this, it makes us players realise that even band members make mistakes and struggle sometimes. It shows us they are human like everyone else.
that tone at 0:04, the way that note sounds is just so good idk how slipknot have that kinda twangy sound to some of their notes but i love it
Listen closely at the beginning. You can hear "go" being whispered.
Corey Taylor #8 Obviously so, lmao, I was just pointing it out
It was the muffled "go" from Before I Forget reaching forward from the darkest recesses of Jim's mind.
@Cuntcrusher no shit, sherlock
My Favorite guitarist of all time! So much elegance 👌
Crazy how much tone he gets w that guitar
He sounds like all of us trying to learn how to play Psychosocial... lol
thats such a beast tone...
I WANT IT
Didn’t know Andy Serkis is a member of Slipknot.
Yeah, that man can play everything.
Gives me hope as someone who can't play perfectly to save my life.
@@rodrigobravo5704 he clearly forgot how to do those pinch harmonics
@@palmeraniian He's playing Mick's part. That's not his part.
andy serkis plays the guitar really well 🤘
He's allowed to forget. With all the Slipknot, Stone Sour and songs he just likes to play it's a lot to remember. I used to know a couple hundred songs. I'm lucky if I remember 50 of them. Look at bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, they're always having to relearn their own songs. Hence why they usually play them differently because they pretty much tab their own songs by ear.
Where is the full video of this thing? I need to watch it so cool!
i like the james root guitar playing because he is more of freedom playing just at live show he don`t bother to torcher himself to play every solo exactly the same as the album but he play from where he feels right.
He remembered before he forgot
0:25 I can just hear Corey say OOOOOOOOOOOOH YEAH
Just didn't get the pinch harmonics __no wrong notes were played
He will remember before he forget
Imagine being in Slipknot and owning a telecaster. Poor telecaster didn’t see that coming.
Little did you know Tele’s can make some of the chunkiest sounds with the right effects based off of their body
@@brodyschriefer7243 I know man I was just joking around. Telecasters have a really cool sound. But it used to be associated more with a twangy country style. I like the crossover
I mean it's not like he's playing an ordinary Telecaster. He's got EMG 81s in there, you could basically put those inside of a hollowbody from the 1920s and it would sound moderately heavy
He was just trying to get the intro right which is the pinch harmonics
Essa delecastar é diferenciada , sé loco , som top !!
He is awesome!:)
I love Jim
To be fair most musicians are like this from what I've seen. Especially the ones who have as many songs as Jim does to remember. Ive seen videos where they come up with the set list and have to relearn the songs because they haven't played them in years
People keep mentioning the before I forget but I after so long I could see his Dead Memories Surfacing again about the song
Jim to his guitar: My preccciouuussssz!
Jim Roots laugh is wholesome 💚
I’m not social I’m not social. That’s how my brother likes to sing the song
Legends sounds great even they fail🤘
lol oh my god i love jim root!!!!!!!!!!!!! he is so amazing love that tone
"That tone" was hot shit, thats why he needed to figure out how to get the pinches.....
this comes in my recommended right on his birthday..❤️
I can hear him remembering it and gaining traction with it hahaha. That's awesome. I bet 5 more minutes and it would be perfect. And god that tone is perfect the whole way through even with the mistakes.
an EMG 60/81 set and an Orange amp is just perfection
that guitar has a maple neck. The one he sells has ebony. WTF JIM
Composing a song that way might work if you're in a rock band. The most out of the box way to possibly compose is to compose melodies in your head. Learn music theory and notation and then notate the score. You'll come up with lots more interesting things than you would just improvising. Because improvising usually leads to going by patterns you're already comfortable with. Writing your ideas out as sheet music is a much more organized and reliable way of composing.
Ok, old guy
This is proof that with a beard you gain +10 charisma and +20 skill additions.
I like the band thing on his picking hand. I want one, I'd think it help me alot from losing grip of the pick during songs. I wonder where I could find one.
It’s just a hair band whenever he wants to put his hair up.
@@mephistopheles7545 lmao
@@garrettshelton5788 😂😂😂
in the full magazine lesson, he states he in not "a learned guitar player" and that he just improvises most solos live. with no practice before an actual show
I just watch Jim's videos to hear is laugh I swear
first time i tried to play this song it sounded like exactly like this
now that is a telecaster you would love to have
He's human after all
@MatthewUrsaki haha offend me? No. He used to use Jacksons, PRS, etc and now has the signature tele. It has EMG's, which is a huge part of lots of metal players tones
Here he does look and sound like a heavy metal Andy Serkis.
this gives me the same feeling of when i attempted to play funk on my warlock which was downtuned to drop A#
He is only human cause it's hard to always be able to remember riffs sometimes
Can’t believe when this song came out I was like “oh shit slip knot has a comeback” as a teenager being a fan of their 90’s stuff and now I’m just in the same bandwagon of “fuck, this song came out like 10 years ago..”
Lol this is exactly me when I miss the harmonics
No one cares
I do
i also care
I care too
i care as well
i love the way he plays.
But can he play hot cross buns?
It still sounds good when he plays it !
ppl are like heavy telecaster blah blah blah, a guitar is a empty shell you can make it sound the way you just like zakk wylde makes acoustic sound for example
I never said I was better than him, nor did I take credit for the creation of any part of the song. However, I have personally tabbed out riffs that are at least 2x as intricate. Any one who has played for over a year wouldn't be surprised by this, since this song is exceptionally simple. I know now that the guitar was in a different tuning, (drop B) instead of drop A. I give him props for knowing to play 2 frets higher up on the neck, but that doesn't make him a genius.
if i see one more before i forget joke i swear
Same 💀💀
@V3xify yea he is playing the right notes, he didnt forget how to play it. You can see by his finger placement. Its the "sweet spot" to hit the harmonic he's looking for.
o cara toca muito meu idolo,jim root valeu cara!! the guy plays a lot of my idol, jim root thx dude
fofo
It's actually in Drop A. Jim Root discussed it at Guitar World.
How can he forget his own band song that they have played dozens of thousands of times? That’s a stupid video title!
This V3rxify dude always knows what to say when someone makes a bad comment.... Good job =D
"Ya know"
AHHAHAHAH "ya know"
@tgei346 Its pinch harmonic , squeals .
When you pick the string you slightly touch it with your thumb and bend the string,also make sure your distortion(gain etc.) is high. theres great lessons on here, hope it helps.
It's not a usual Telecaster, is it? This one has a kickass metal tone
it's his signature fender telecaster with EMG pickups
That's not completely true... I have his $1200 flat white fender telecaster and it has an ebony fretboard. When this one has a maple one like his black model...
Austin M That's true. Could be a prototype..
He has swapped the necks of his signature telecasters, he talks about it in a rig rundown
Riff Bandz. It's essentially a rubber band that goes around your fingers and pulls them together. You need to work harder to use them. It trains your fingers. Either that or it's a hair elastic.
Actually Im lead guitarist and I just didnt teach him my part.
Richard Dantz lolol idiot
Jim root has the coolest telecaster in my opinion
This is fake audio..
audio is pretty real, look for jim root masterclass for guitarpart magazine, he just didnt quite get the right pitch on the note and then proceeded to repeat the part till he got it right :3
It's not fake, I've seen the whole video of it.
@Mayfield1114 you re right about that. The centipede began to fall the day he tried to understand how it walks...forgive my poor english...and if you don't believe me i shot it, look at the other videos i did, and specially "Alela Diane" which has no logos (i'm the only one that could have this version, before been released in the DVD with the logos). In the same room we shot Rob Flynn too (machine head). We did Phil Demmel (machine head too) but this video has not been released on DVD yet.
Edited audio.
gclark2708 Tell me why
No idea, forget I said it lol
I forget songs all the time even if i play em daily. Sometimes shit just slips your mind!
Jesus, this should be easy for him
it whas allmost 4 years before this whas uploaded till he last wrote it
kitramsey5150 exactly this. It's the same reason why a lot of musicians will say they need to go learn their songs when they put out new albums before they tour. A lot of playing guitar is just muscle memory
He said corey had to teach him how to play vermillion part 2 because he forgot
@V3xify yea if you take a look at where his fingers are you will obviously see he is playing the correct notes, its the pinch harmonic that throws him off. Hes trying to find the ''sweet spot'' to hit the harmonic.
as a guitar player im going to say that he was playing it right its just the amp he was using that made it sound really different. he probably had his telecaster along with some random amp they had for this video instead of his whole guitar rig. remember its not just the guitar and your skills that is important but it is also the gear you use. any famous guitar player will tell you that. the gear is what creates the sound along with the guitar pickups. combine those with skill and there you go.
no
Before i forget that keys.
i did actually, i can't tab it out here though on youtube though. it's an admittedly typical arrangement in pentatonic A minor though, so you're not missing much. sounds badass like other pentatonic A minor songs though, like this one.
That’s his signature model you guys can buy them online if you ever want to
man that tremolo picking is really good. Btw is that a hairband on his fingers?
@MetalMakesMeEargasm harmonics going off isnt the guitars fault, it has to do with the location of the pinch that the guitarist does.
he didn’t forget, he’s playing micks part on the intro
This is how they came up with before I forget
He's forgotten more than most of us will ever know.
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What's he wearing on his picking hand? Some pick holder or elastic band or something?
its called "a hairband"
Yes, my first example was going to be the riff from Meshuggah's 'Bleed' haha. Yes, I suppose I know what you mean. No doubt it is one tasty, chunky riff, and I love it. It just isn't the first riff that springs to mind when I think 'heaviest', but I do listen to a LOT of metal, and that's a lot of riffs.
I can now say that I can play guitar like Jim Root
the only person in all of history to get that beefy of a tone out of a fender
he has emg pickups installed
@SupaMario90neu i'm going to go ahead and assume he used a little Orange Rockerverb Combo of sorts. You can see it to the bottom left of the screen.
What is this black stripe on his right hand good for?
Must have been the notes in between
@MetalMakesMeEargasm Actually Jim AND Mick fuck up the solo pretty good with several notes when they play live in a video on youtube (But the song goes about x1.5 original speed so I don't blame them, and I can't play the solos in that song at all!)