Most says she is mechanical and being hated upon because of it... but she majestically sparked anguish, sadness, fear and tenderness when she played this piece.
@@FrankMeijering so true... she is actually one of my favourite pianist... lovely personality too.... also everytime she plays, am all ears and it somehow vividly pictures scenes in my imagination whenever she plays
Well, you know how it goes in the highly competitive pianist world: when there's nothing to criticise, one can always mention "interpretation", "lack of emotions", "missing that something", or any other abstract bs one is able to come up with. They say "mechanical", I say technically superior. They say "emotionless", I say at least she doesn't maks weird faces like Lang Lang.
I attempted this piece before. It really is difficult. I cant even begin to explain how much wrist strengh and speed u need to play this piece. This is insane
You shouldn't be using 'wrist' strength or any strength at all! There's no muscles in the wrist all your doing is just tension at that point. The only action is lifting the wrist, the drop and rebound is from gravity/weight of the arms and bouncing the bottom of the keys. There's no push or 'hitting' action at all!
She moves her hands quicker than the keys can rise, God damn- Sometimes it looks like the piano itself is a robot playing each key but no Its just the majesty of her playing
@Elliott Blum stretch your forearms and then do slow repetitions of opening and closing the hand to a fist again as long as you can. Obviously the discomfort should not bee too much while doing so
Not really a fan of Yuja, but her Erlkonig is the best I've heard. Can feel a lot of emotions, and goosebumps; loved everything about this performance.
@@supersolomob422 Me too! I think she is one of the worst pianists I've ever heard, but she's also one of the best I've heard as well. She is a terrible person, but she is such a great person! She's horrendously wonderful!
@@supersolomob422 Great paradox. Very true. I understand what you mean, and I know that the girl is not happy in her life. She is in a great combat, a real casino about her very existence.
If Yuja did not know how to relax her playing apparatus, i.e., hands, fingers, wrist, arms, shoulders, back, she would have been put out of commission long ago. Just practicing this piece would have disabled her before she ever took it to stage. She's a living miracle both technically and interpretatively. That includes the skill of properly using her playing mechanism At all times. You say it can't be done? Ask Buzz Aldren about that!
Loose wrists! Always remember to have relaxed technique and you'll never have to worry about carpal tunnel again. Basically, try to be as lazy as possible. 💯❤️
This is the best performance of the transcription that I have ever heard. She obviously understands the very tragic poetry of this work, written at a time when infant and child mortality was very high. No less tragic and painful. Just FAR more common. This is not really a discussion about Yuja. This is about her ruining her hands and equipment. THIS WORK SHOULD NOT BE PERFORMED BY ANY PROFESSIONAL PIANIST MORE THAN ONCE/YEAR. Once you damage your intermetacarpal Interossei by stretching/tearing them, they will never return to normal. You have what you have. If it is damaged, it will never recoup. I believe I am the only physician commenting about dangerous piano works. I have never seen any others online. I come from an "area" of knowledge: Being about to play the 5 Beethoven Concertos, Grieg and Brahms 2. But I am not a professional and I don't play well enough to perform them. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA) Retired surgeon
You obviously do not understand the story and mood of der Erlkönig. This is easily one of the worst renditions of the piano transcription of the piece around. You might want to listen to a few original vocal versions and analyses thereof before you the things you do.
I’ve hardly every heard of famous pianists seriously having hand injuries limiting their career (aside from Ashkenazy who has ostearthritis). And this piece of part of the standard repertoire. With all due respect you seem to be catastrophizing.
@@MartinVanBoven I disagree. Yuja does not "pound" it out. Many people mistake the running octaves of Liszt for (actual) music. Much of Liszt's use of running octaves were "designed" so he could find young women in the audience to "connect" with after concerts. I'm not saying that Liszt didn't compose masterpieces. But there is an enormous variation in "quality". I understand the poetry of Erlkonig as well as you do. You do not include any specifics. So my inclination is to consider your post a bot. Any piano transcription will (by definition) not record the human voice as part of it. It is always an "approximation." Why would you expect more? Are you writing just to disagree? Or do you have any point? Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Here is a short list: Gary Graffman, Leon Fleisher, Wanda Landowska, Artur Schnabel, Alexander Scriabin, Ignaz Friedman, Sergei Rachmaninoff, Clara Schumann, Robert Schumann, Glenn Gould, Michel Beroff, Richard Goode and many others. The composers who wrote these works had no idea about "overuse" injuries. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
@@dominikclarke6545 Definitely not a lesbian, apart from a joking comment made between her and an interviewer. In fact she's stated herself that she had wanted kids of her own.
@@OrionPiano : Lesbians want children just as much as, or as little as, heterosexual women. Do some reading. Or observe the world around you. And other people’s sexuality is just gossip; nothing to do with anyone else. Also, one can have a husband and still be a lesbian. Just like gay men get married. Grow up.
the more I hear Liszt the more I feel better about my own original music which is me just kind of banging around - there's a way to harness that power!
I think you’re right. This looks very tense. My teacher taught me a circular technique after I got carpal tunnel from overplaying octaves with too much force and not enough flexibility. Supple wrist!
I would disagree that this looks tense. Sometimes you can get away with playing from the fingers or the wrist, but in this case, it has to come from the upper arm and back. I used the same technique as Yuja Wang when I played this piece and there was never any tension and rarely fatigue.
Are you serious comparing your/your teacher's technique to Yuja's technique? No matter what you think of her musicality, her technique is one of the very best in history. Period.
I’m not the best story teller but here’s the story summary. The father and son we’re riding a horse back home. As they go back home, the Erkloing ( the Eflking) tempts the son into coming to the Eflking. The son tells the father but the father cannot see and hear the Eflking. At the end the Eflking takes the son by force, and by the time they reach home, the son is dead in the father’s hand. People are saying the son would probably be alive because the tremelo of the right hand is like the horse galloping and since she played it very fast, the boy would probably be alive.
yeah that's pretty much it. I think the king appears as a ghost or something, and tempts the son to come with him to a "land of candy and happiness" or something. and then the son slowly realizes he's basically Satan trying to lure him to hell. what's amazing is how the music shifts. it's very calm and peaceful when the father is assuring the son that he'll be fine. and then it immediately reverts to shrieks of terror by the child, begging his father to save him from a threat only he can see.
@@ianluk2434 If I recall correctly, throughout the song the Erlkonigs sections (the parts that sound very happy and playful) slowly get more and more ferocious as the Erlkonig gets impatient, eventually he does attack the child and the final line of the song is "das kind war tot" (the child was dead)
Just realized that she was omitting notes in the right hand. Second RH chord playing the “g” and “a” only instead of the octave chord...same goes for the third chord, etc. Interesting...
With such a cramped style of play, carpal tunnel syndrome is optimally promoted! Ms. Wang has probably never heard of Theodor Leschetitzky. This totally cramped way of playing also affects the sound and the expression of the piano playing extremely negatively.
-musician: Yuja Wang
-piece: Schubert/Liszt: Erlkönig
-original video: th-cam.com/video/4_BmRekeJ8A/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much for watching! ❤️
Recognized Erlkonig from the notes in the thumbnail…
How about her Gretchen Am Spinnrade th-cam.com/video/hWw1JFFyQyo/w-d-xo.html
Most says she is mechanical and being hated upon because of it... but she majestically sparked anguish, sadness, fear and tenderness when she played this piece.
I've been to a live piano solo concert of her, and it was the best concert I've ever been to. Everything but mechanical
@@FrankMeijering so true... she is actually one of my favourite pianist... lovely personality too.... also everytime she plays, am all ears and it somehow vividly pictures scenes in my imagination whenever she plays
It's just typical racism against Asians... you rarely hear anyone being called mechanical if they're white
"Most" are armchair critics. All actual pianists know how amazing she truly is. Well said! ❤️
Well, you know how it goes in the highly competitive pianist world: when there's nothing to criticise, one can always mention "interpretation", "lack of emotions", "missing that something", or any other abstract bs one is able to come up with. They say "mechanical", I say technically superior. They say "emotionless", I say at least she doesn't maks weird faces like Lang Lang.
I attempted this piece before. It really is difficult. I cant even begin to explain how much wrist strengh and speed u need to play this piece. This is insane
Wads ur channel
You shouldn't be using 'wrist' strength or any strength at all! There's no muscles in the wrist all your doing is just tension at that point. The only action is lifting the wrist, the drop and rebound is from gravity/weight of the arms and bouncing the bottom of the keys. There's no push or 'hitting' action at all!
@@charlescxgo7629 ah i meant forearm not wrist, sorry for misinformation
She moves her hands quicker than the keys can rise, God damn-
Sometimes it looks like the piano itself is a robot playing each key but no
Its just the majesty of her playing
The title hits home.. I haven’t been able to practice for two weeks because of thumb pain caused by over-practicing
i wish you a speedy recovery!!
Thanks!
@Elliott Blum stretch your forearms and then do slow repetitions of opening and closing the hand to a fist again as long as you can. Obviously the discomfort should not bee too much while doing so
Stretch it, and then next time don’t leave your compfort zone that much in the first place, thanks
could be tendonitis. never play through pain
that control is beyond amazing...
Not really a fan of Yuja, but her Erlkonig is the best I've heard. Can feel a lot of emotions, and goosebumps; loved everything about this performance.
Why aren't you a fan of her? I'm just curious. I personally think she's really good.
I'm not a fan of her either and I hate her. But I'm also a fan of her and I love her. Good stuff
@@supersolomob422 Me too! I think she is one of the worst pianists I've ever heard, but she's also one of the best I've heard as well. She is a terrible person, but she is such a great person! She's horrendously wonderful!
@@samsungrefrigeratorcondens4354 I know right! She sucks! I wish I was half as awesome as she is
@@supersolomob422
Great paradox.
Very true.
I understand what you mean, and I know that the girl is not happy in her life.
She is in a great combat, a real casino about her very existence.
Она гениальна. Все разговоры о чистом техницизме Юджи абсурд, зависть и глупость. Она большой музыкант мирового масштаба на все времена.
If Yuja did not know how to relax her playing apparatus, i.e., hands, fingers, wrist, arms, shoulders, back, she would have been put out of commission long ago. Just practicing this piece would have disabled her before she ever took it to stage. She's a living miracle both technically and interpretatively. That includes the skill of properly using her playing mechanism At all times.
You say it can't be done? Ask Buzz Aldren about that!
YW, unbelievable precision, voicing, & energy. Love her Artistry.
Loose wrists! Always remember to have relaxed technique and you'll never have to worry about carpal tunnel again. Basically, try to be as lazy as possible. 💯❤️
This is the best performance of the transcription that I have ever heard. She obviously understands the very tragic poetry of this work, written at a time when infant and child mortality was very high. No less tragic and painful. Just FAR more common.
This is not really a discussion about Yuja. This is about her ruining her hands and equipment. THIS WORK SHOULD NOT BE PERFORMED BY ANY PROFESSIONAL PIANIST MORE THAN ONCE/YEAR.
Once you damage your intermetacarpal Interossei by stretching/tearing them, they will never return to normal. You have what you have. If it is damaged, it will never recoup. I believe I am the only physician commenting about dangerous piano works. I have never seen any others online.
I come from an "area" of knowledge: Being about to play the 5 Beethoven Concertos, Grieg and Brahms 2. But I am not a professional and I don't play well enough to perform them.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Retired surgeon
You obviously do not understand the story and mood of der Erlkönig. This is easily one of the worst renditions of the piano transcription of the piece around. You might want to listen to a few original vocal versions and analyses thereof before you the things you do.
I’ve hardly every heard of famous pianists seriously having hand injuries limiting their career (aside from Ashkenazy who has ostearthritis). And this piece of part of the standard repertoire. With all due respect you seem to be catastrophizing.
@@MartinVanBoven I disagree. Yuja does not "pound" it out. Many people mistake the running octaves of Liszt for (actual) music. Much of Liszt's use of running octaves were "designed" so he could find young women in the audience to "connect" with after concerts. I'm not saying that Liszt didn't compose masterpieces.
But there is an enormous variation in "quality". I understand the poetry of Erlkonig as well as you do. You do not include any specifics. So my inclination is to consider your post a bot. Any piano transcription will (by definition) not record the human voice as part of it. It is always an "approximation." Why would you expect more?
Are you writing just to disagree? Or do you have any point?
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Here is a short list:
Gary Graffman, Leon Fleisher, Wanda Landowska, Artur Schnabel, Alexander Scriabin, Ignaz Friedman, Sergei Rachmaninoff, Clara Schumann, Robert Schumann, Glenn Gould, Michel Beroff, Richard Goode and many others.
The composers who wrote these works had no idea about "overuse" injuries.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
@@sanjosemike3137 talks about over use injuries but includes Robert schumann. you shouldn't have added him.
I love your titles
Moral of the story: do your Hanons.
Me when Schubert x Liszt
A piano Goddess. Just incredible.
A whiplash tutorial too, with those over the top head bobbing.
God that was incredible
i love who captions these channel
Ειναι καταπληκτική!!!❤️💖💞💕❤️💖💞💕👏👏👏👏👏
She's on another level.
Meet Yuja Luke, the pianist that plays faster than her shadow
Delightful!
wish I had a yuje wang
OMG...
Imagine being her husband and forgetting your anniversary... You'd be dead.
She is lesbian 👍 But yes, the point still stands!
@@dominikclarke6545 huh what 👁️👄👁️
@@dominikclarke6545 Definitely not a lesbian, apart from a joking comment made between her and an interviewer. In fact she's stated herself that she had wanted kids of her own.
@@OrionPiano : Lesbians want children just as much as, or as little as, heterosexual women. Do some reading. Or observe the world around you. And other people’s sexuality is just gossip; nothing to do with anyone else. Also, one can have a husband and still be a lesbian. Just like gay men get married. Grow up.
@@OrionPiano You don't have to be straight to want children, y'know!
Fact: I've never heard or seen anyone who can play as well or better than Yuja Wang complain about her style.
Wer reitet so spät dur Nacht und Wind... Es ist der Erlkönig mit seinem Kind....
My tendons hurt after watching this 😱
Phenomenal!
Pra relaxar fazendo isso...
Now on the violin! There is always something for everyone…
Totalmente carpal tunnel syndrome lol! So beautiful though, think it's worh it!!
She does not play everything as noted. She leaves out the octave in the right hand on some occasions. Interesting to see. Great performance!
the more I hear Liszt the more I feel better about my own original music which is me just kind of banging around - there's a way to harness that power!
Well it’s mostly Schubert, so….
tell me you drank 20 cups of coffee without telling me you drank 20 cups of coffee
진짜 잘하네
now listen to metronome double beater Wim :p
Franz Schubert: Erlkönig Piano Solo - Wim Winters 1825 Frenzel Pianoforte
youtube
I think you’re right. This looks very tense. My teacher taught me a circular technique after I got carpal tunnel from overplaying octaves with too much force and not enough flexibility. Supple wrist!
I would disagree that this looks tense. Sometimes you can get away with playing from the fingers or the wrist, but in this case, it has to come from the upper arm and back. I used the same technique as Yuja Wang when I played this piece and there was never any tension and rarely fatigue.
Are you serious comparing your/your teacher's technique to Yuja's technique? No matter what you think of her musicality, her technique is one of the very best in history. Period.
@@Thiago-px9ev I don’t think that’s what the OP was doing at all. OP was just sharing a story (and maybe a helpful tip).
@@Thiago-px9ev mf what
@@eoghanbostock958 it does come mainly from the wrist if you don’t believe it just tape it and so you can’t play the octaves 🤣
This woman drives me crazy
lmao erlkonig ahahha i should have expected this
Bravo
Until you know the story behind this piece, you will not know how terrifying it truly is
The elf-king will seduce your dying son despite your father's best horse riding.
I’m not the best story teller but here’s the story summary. The father and son we’re riding a horse back home. As they go back home, the Erkloing ( the Eflking) tempts the son into coming to the Eflking. The son tells the father but the father cannot see and hear the Eflking. At the end the Eflking takes the son by force, and by the time they reach home, the son is dead in the father’s hand. People are saying the son would probably be alive because the tremelo of the right hand is like the horse galloping and since she played it very fast, the boy would probably be alive.
yeah that's pretty much it. I think the king appears as a ghost or something, and tempts the son to come with him to a "land of candy and happiness" or something. and then the son slowly realizes he's basically Satan trying to lure him to hell.
what's amazing is how the music shifts. it's very calm and peaceful when the father is assuring the son that he'll be fine. and then it immediately reverts to shrieks of terror by the child, begging his father to save him from a threat only he can see.
@@ianluk2434 If I recall correctly, throughout the song the Erlkonigs sections (the parts that sound very happy and playful) slowly get more and more ferocious as the Erlkonig gets impatient, eventually he does attack the child and the final line of the song is "das kind war tot" (the child was dead)
Find the actual German text of the ballade and an exact translation here:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erlkönig
I reported every person talking crap about yuja in the comments
Big Mouth opening??!?
Even the camera can’t keep up with her
the heading 🤣😅
the title! 😅😅😅😅🙉
I think she could defeat Tetris as well
They only show this to discouraged dummies like me....
What video editing software do you use?
Just realized that she was omitting notes in the right hand. Second RH chord playing the “g” and “a” only instead of the octave chord...same goes for the third chord, etc. Interesting...
I believe it's to achieve a softer transition (with respect to her interpretation). I think it suits the piece just fine, it's a thumbs up for me.
Yes, what a good idea!
如果没有极佳身体控制机能,这么弹的话,肯定要痉挛而失去控制能力的。
Osu! Mania players:
I play this with my feet, it's not too difficult!
Organist? 😎🎹
@@marshallartz395 Nah just got to day 3 on Simply Piano.
A heartfelt dislike: cutting off music is a no-go!!!
She had a boyfriend...
He died... I can't tell you why...
With such a cramped style of play, carpal tunnel syndrome is optimally promoted! Ms. Wang has probably never heard of Theodor Leschetitzky.
This totally cramped way of playing also affects the sound and the expression of the piano playing extremely negatively.
0:36 auto keyboard?
Video desync with audio. A no-go for musical video!
Dislike.
Apart from that, very good.
Nice playing, performance and control, music? Not so much