IDI stands for “in-direct injection” not international. The Powerstroke introduced is 94.5 was direct injection and were also built and designed by Navistar/International for Ford. Same goes for the 6.0 and 6.4. The early 6.0 trucks were problematic from rushed development to meet emission standards and put strain on the partnership. The 6.4 was the straw that broke the camels back which is why they were only built for a couple of years. So Ford decided to design their own in house 6.7 Powerstroke while they sold the 6.4 stock off. And in 2010 cut ties with Navistar/International. 2011 onward to modern day is the 6.7 Powerstroke designed by Ford and has been a fantastic proven reliable and powerful design.
@@SPARTAN-mb6gx no one here is saying the opposite. What's commendable here is Ford was able to design an HD truck Diesel engine from scratch and achieve reliability levels on par with the old 7.3 Powerstroke while also no longer relying on a 3rd party to get their Diesels from.
I drove a bunch of these Ford diesels in Tow Trucks. 1988 to 1997 7.3 Non Turbo, 7.3 IDI Turbo, and 7.3 Powerstroke. We also had a 460 gas truck that felt great empty, buy was a dog when loaded. The Diesels felt the same empty or loaded.
The 460 in it's late carbed and late efi era was extremely down on power due to emissions. It was great in the pre-emissions carb, and early efi era. More torque than an NA IDI and can even hand it to a psd
This truck comes from an era where reliability was more important than speed, trucks are kinda meant to be reliable workhorse and not a luxury limousine as today`s trucks kinda are
Slow but reliable with a 5-speed manual, just as God intended. This is a truck meant to do real work. To be fair, the 6.2L diesel in the GM trucks made less power and was intended for fuel economy. This truck is very clean for its age and looks so good. LMC Truck can take care of the worn upholstery and torn headliner. Ford's truck diesels were built by International through the 6.4 despite the PowerStroke branding. Ford didn't start making its own PowerStrokes until 2011's 6.7.
Love this! Gorgeous old girl! Huge kudos to the owner for leaving this beauty period correct! I swear the old IDI diesels are still the absolute best sounding diesel pickups of all time. Just sound mean, like they would chew a hole through the planet if given the chance. These are not fast, but they will pull ANYTHING. And is the only diesel in a pickup truck that can compare to the original 6BT Cummins in terms of longevity, durability, and are about as bulletproof as anything Grew up around these, all great memories See if you can find the quite rare factory turbo 7.3 IDI to review. We had one brand new in 1993 (I believe late 93 and early 94 was the only years you could get the turbo IDI 7.3) The turbo IDI was essentially a stop gap between the IDIs and the first Powerstroke (which little know wasn’t called the Powerstroke out of the gate, it was just called the Direct Injection 7.3 for the first few months of production before the term “Powerstroke” was coined) And it’s surprising as Ford intentionality choked the factory turbo IDI 7.3 so the direct injection Powerstroke seemed so much better. The downpipe was intentionally kept small and kinked, whereas the International branded turbo IDI 7.3 didnt have that issue. Without being choked the turbo 7.3 IDI actually made more torque down low than the first few years of the Powerstroke made. I can go on and on even more but I’m sure this comment is far too long already lol If anyone wants to know more just let me know. Take care, and enjoy that IDI growl! 😊
That's a great point. The turbo idi with the fuel pump turned up a flat or two actually outdoes the PSD, and is available with more transmissions and body styles. The PSD is now reaching 25 years old or so, and the electronics are starting to become a risk Factor.
Wrong: IDI stands for indirect injection (the clatter not seen on todays trucks) The power stroke from 1994-2003 is a Navistar engine. Navistar is a spin off of International Harvester. Ford didn’t build their first in house diesel until the 6.7 came out for the 2011 model year. Let’s work on getting it right before we speak.
Honestly, it's nice to see classic diesel trucks like that 6.9 IDI Ford in good condition and still running... Also, I enjoyed the review so much, Zack.^^
It says to start in 2nd ALWAYS in any ZF5 and t19, right in the owners manual. Just keep that in mind. Obviously on a hill you use 1st. It's choice, it's nice. These need a turbo. These NEED A PAYROMETER. Honestly, the 6.9 is worse than the 7.3 IDI in every way. Weird filter setups, ZF5 is way better than t18-t19 usually paired with the 6.9... the bricknose looks just as good as the bullnose... The 7.3 has stronger head studs and takes 4 psi of turbo normally.
@@thevduber it's in the owners manual to start in 2nd, even with the gassers. I think the 351w might struggle a bit but using 1st with 4.10s is impossible. 3.55s is fine but most of these trucks don't have em
I was on Facebook today, and there's a 1990s BMW station wagon with an inline 6 diesel 5 speed manual for sale it's actually on auction. It has less than 100,000 miles. And it's a car that we weren't allowed to have but now it's being auctioned in America. I would love to see you drive that car whoever owns it. Maybe you could try to figure out who owns that car and do a video on that
4:57 - That's not an equalizer, friend. I like this truck for nostalgic reasons, but...I'm not going to call it attractive. The brick nose models were hardly eye-pleasing, especially next to a same-year GM truck. An honest truck, though.
IDI stands for Indirect Injection, meaning the fuel is injected into a pre-combustion chamber. Back in the pre-electronic diesel era this was the preferred setup for fuel efficiency and reduced emissions, at the expense of power output. The 6.9 IDI was enlarged to a 7.3 IDI, and then the 7.3 was fitted with direct injection (DI) and electronic engine management and a turbo and becamevthe 7.3L powerstroke. Allvwere extremely reliable and durable workhorses. These were all produced by International, as were the 6.0L and 6.4L diesel disasters that came after the 7.3L powerstroke. After that fiasco, Fotd separated from International and created the 6.7L Powerstroke in house. That disaster of an engine is 100% Ford's failure, no help from International on that waste of iron and aluminum.
IDI stands for "indirect diesel injection " which means instead of injecting fuel directly into the combustion chamber like in modern diesels like the Powerstroke it has a pre chamber, it was made by international/ Navistar but so was the Powerstroke until 2011; Powerstroke was just the name ford gave to their versions of the International engine, for example the International's version of the 7.3 Powerstroke was called the T444E which is a pretty unique engine caue it was a HEUI injection which was a joint project between International and Caterpillar engine companies
Idi actually stands for indirect diesel injection The 7.3,6.0,and 6.4 where made by navistar which bought international out in 85 or 84 the 6.7 psd was the first in house diesel
6.9 is indestructible and gets awesome mileage. A little faster than a mini truck of the era with better mpg and stump pulling off idle power. Believe it or not, WAY lighter than any newer 1/2 ton or tacoma. My 87 350 4x weighs #4450.
My dad had an 87 F350 with the 460 V8 and that thing was a massive POS from the start. 460 was a great engine but thats where the positives of the truck ends. Had horrible front end issues, impossible to align, had a steering rack issue that the dealer or anyone else could ever figure out. That was my dad's last Ford and after he sold in in '90 he bought his GMC (which he still has with over 660k mi) and never touched Ford again
That truck looks amazing!! Those IDI diesels are the ones you don't want to be behind. If you are behind one, it will fill your car with eye burning fumes in no time. Not sure why those IDI engines had such acidic exhaust.
6,9 and 7.3 idi diesels are awesome engines are very dependable last for ever engines they will not win no races but they worked but the new diesel engines are junk if you need pulling power go buy a peterbilt lol
It's a diesel without a turbo, non-head studded with no air flow. These engines were built for simplicity and durability and to be VERY cheap to make but strong. Any diesel without a turbo is gutless, trust me. Turbo these and they are about on par with the 7.3 psd. I have a 7.3 IDI for reference
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IDI stands for “in-direct injection” not international. The Powerstroke introduced is 94.5 was direct injection and were also built and designed by Navistar/International for Ford. Same goes for the 6.0 and 6.4. The early 6.0 trucks were problematic from rushed development to meet emission standards and put strain on the partnership. The 6.4 was the straw that broke the camels back which is why they were only built for a couple of years. So Ford decided to design their own in house 6.7 Powerstroke while they sold the 6.4 stock off. And in 2010 cut ties with Navistar/International. 2011 onward to modern day is the 6.7 Powerstroke designed by Ford and has been a fantastic proven reliable and powerful design.
Cummins is still better they've used 2 engines in 40 years and one of them was the same engine just modified
In a way, ford knew they were going away from navistar in 2007. That's when they started designing the 6.7.
@@SPARTAN-mb6gx What about the B block?
@@porcupinepunch6893they last as long as not to much power
@@SPARTAN-mb6gx no one here is saying the opposite.
What's commendable here is Ford was able to design an HD truck Diesel engine from scratch and achieve reliability levels on par with the old 7.3 Powerstroke while also no longer relying on a 3rd party to get their Diesels from.
The 6.9 and 7.3 IDI, the sound of school mornings in the 1990s
Sim,elas também eram usados em ônibus escolares nos anos 90.
I drove a bunch of these Ford diesels in Tow Trucks. 1988 to 1997
7.3 Non Turbo, 7.3 IDI Turbo, and 7.3 Powerstroke.
We also had a 460 gas truck that felt great empty, buy was a dog when loaded.
The Diesels felt the same empty or loaded.
The 460 in it's late carbed and late efi era was extremely down on power due to emissions. It was great in the pre-emissions carb, and early efi era. More torque than an NA IDI and can even hand it to a psd
Very clean example of a Bricknose Ford. Those IDIs weren't fast but they were damn reliable.
This truck comes from an era where reliability was more important than speed, trucks are kinda meant to be reliable workhorse and not a luxury limousine as today`s trucks kinda are
@@kebabalubavery true. There's a reason they sold these NA diesels. Simplicity.
Slow but reliable with a 5-speed manual, just as God intended. This is a truck meant to do real work. To be fair, the 6.2L diesel in the GM trucks made less power and was intended for fuel economy. This truck is very clean for its age and looks so good. LMC Truck can take care of the worn upholstery and torn headliner.
Ford's truck diesels were built by International through the 6.4 despite the PowerStroke branding. Ford didn't start making its own PowerStrokes until 2011's 6.7.
Love this!
Gorgeous old girl!
Huge kudos to the owner for leaving this beauty period correct!
I swear the old IDI diesels are still the absolute best sounding diesel pickups of all time. Just sound mean, like they would chew a hole through the planet if given the chance.
These are not fast, but they will pull ANYTHING.
And is the only diesel in a pickup truck that can compare to the original 6BT Cummins in terms of longevity, durability, and are about as bulletproof as anything
Grew up around these, all great memories
See if you can find the quite rare factory turbo 7.3 IDI to review. We had one brand new in 1993 (I believe late 93 and early 94 was the only years you could get the turbo IDI 7.3)
The turbo IDI was essentially a stop gap between the IDIs and the first Powerstroke (which little know wasn’t called the Powerstroke out of the gate, it was just called the Direct Injection 7.3 for the first few months of production before the term “Powerstroke” was coined)
And it’s surprising as Ford intentionality choked the factory turbo IDI 7.3 so the direct injection Powerstroke seemed so much better. The downpipe was intentionally kept small and kinked, whereas the International branded turbo IDI 7.3 didnt have that issue. Without being choked the turbo 7.3 IDI actually made more torque down low than the first few years of the Powerstroke made.
I can go on and on even more but I’m sure this comment is far too long already lol
If anyone wants to know more just let me know.
Take care, and enjoy that IDI growl! 😊
That's a great point. The turbo idi with the fuel pump turned up a flat or two actually outdoes the PSD, and is available with more transmissions and body styles. The PSD is now reaching 25 years old or so, and the electronics are starting to become a risk Factor.
Wrong: IDI stands for indirect injection (the clatter not seen on todays trucks)
The power stroke from 1994-2003 is a Navistar engine. Navistar is a spin off of International Harvester.
Ford didn’t build their first in house diesel until the 6.7 came out for the 2011 model year.
Let’s work on getting it right before we speak.
Honestly, it's nice to see classic diesel trucks like that 6.9 IDI Ford in good condition and still running...
Also, I enjoyed the review so much, Zack.^^
It says to start in 2nd ALWAYS in any ZF5 and t19, right in the owners manual. Just keep that in mind. Obviously on a hill you use 1st. It's choice, it's nice.
These need a turbo. These NEED A PAYROMETER.
Honestly, the 6.9 is worse than the 7.3 IDI in every way. Weird filter setups, ZF5 is way better than t18-t19 usually paired with the 6.9... the bricknose looks just as good as the bullnose... The 7.3 has stronger head studs and takes 4 psi of turbo normally.
Mines a ZF5. I start in 1st Because it just doesn't like 2nd as much
@@thevduber it's in the owners manual to start in 2nd, even with the gassers. I think the 351w might struggle a bit but using 1st with 4.10s is impossible. 3.55s is fine but most of these trucks don't have em
@@bldontmatter5319 yeah its a 3.55 truck non posi.
@@thevduber atleast you can cruise on in the highway
@@bldontmatter5319 oh yeah easy 90mph around 3k rpm
I still drive my '87 F-250HD 6.9L. I ordered it when I was 25 years old.
Modern trucks still have water in fuel warnings but they are usually on a screen rather than a light or integrated into the check engine light
Great example of the 80’s.
Ahh back when trucks were actually used for work and they were affordable and not monster trucks!!!!!!!
I was on Facebook today, and there's a 1990s BMW station wagon with an inline 6 diesel 5 speed manual for sale it's actually on auction. It has less than 100,000 miles. And it's a car that we weren't allowed to have but now it's being auctioned in America. I would love to see you drive that car whoever owns it. Maybe you could try to figure out who owns that car and do a video on that
My Papaw used to have an 88 Ford F-150. That truck lasted well into the early 2000s, had over 200K miles on it. Oh, the memories 😂👏
reviews looking good! I also added on a bug gaurd and have period correct wheels and a visor almost ready for install now!
4:57 - That's not an equalizer, friend.
I like this truck for nostalgic reasons, but...I'm not going to call it attractive. The brick nose models were hardly eye-pleasing, especially next to a same-year GM truck. An honest truck, though.
It actually has 4 speakers bc it has a fade controller
I wanted a bullnose originally but I couldn't pass up a clean bricknose.
I have an ‘89 F350 7.3 IDI! And I absolutely love it
That is an absolute beautiful truck not a speck of dirt or rust that I can see.
IDI stands for Indirect Injection, meaning the fuel is injected into a pre-combustion chamber. Back in the pre-electronic diesel era this was the preferred setup for fuel efficiency and reduced emissions, at the expense of power output. The 6.9 IDI was enlarged to a 7.3 IDI, and then the 7.3 was fitted with direct injection (DI) and electronic engine management and a turbo and becamevthe 7.3L powerstroke. Allvwere extremely reliable and durable workhorses. These were all produced by International, as were the 6.0L and 6.4L diesel disasters that came after the 7.3L powerstroke. After that fiasco, Fotd separated from International and created the 6.7L Powerstroke in house. That disaster of an engine is 100% Ford's failure, no help from International on that waste of iron and aluminum.
Love these trucks. Just bought a 95 myself. Owned an 84 IDI F250 a few years back.
IDI stands for "indirect diesel injection " which means instead of injecting fuel directly into the combustion chamber like in modern diesels like the Powerstroke it has a pre chamber, it was made by international/ Navistar but so was the Powerstroke until 2011; Powerstroke was just the name ford gave to their versions of the International engine, for example the International's version of the 7.3 Powerstroke was called the T444E which is a pretty unique engine caue it was a HEUI injection which was a joint project between International and Caterpillar engine companies
Idi actually stands for indirect diesel injection
The 7.3,6.0,and 6.4 where made by navistar which bought international out in 85 or 84 the 6.7 psd was the first in house diesel
6.9 is indestructible and gets awesome mileage. A little faster than a mini truck of the era with better mpg and stump pulling off idle power.
Believe it or not, WAY lighter than any newer 1/2 ton or tacoma. My 87 350 4x weighs #4450.
The 7.3 is a decent diesel, but severely overrated. The 6.9 in my opinion is such an underappreciated engine and I really wish it was given more love.
Nobody really understands that diesel horsepower doesn't really matter it's the torque.
One year only Navistar 6.9 after the International Harvester 6.9 1983-1986. I do like the 1987 for the 5 speed manual becoming available
My dad had an 87 F350 with the 460 V8 and that thing was a massive POS from the start. 460 was a great engine but thats where the positives of the truck ends. Had horrible front end issues, impossible to align, had a steering rack issue that the dealer or anyone else could ever figure out. That was my dad's last Ford and after he sold in in '90 he bought his GMC (which he still has with over 660k mi) and never touched Ford again
Yep the 87 was the only brick nose to have a 6.9.
Miss my 89 f250 with the 7.3
Wish they could make this truck exactly the same again
Can you review an F-150 11th Gen
Absolutely beautiful shape....
The 6.9 idi was actually around for 5 year, 1982-1987, not just one year. If you’re going to try to educate people please have actual facts.
That truck looks amazing!! Those IDI diesels are the ones you don't want to be behind. If you are behind one, it will fill your car with eye burning fumes in no time. Not sure why those IDI engines had such acidic exhaust.
what a good looking truck
IDI - In-Direct Injection
My dad had one of those 6.9 trucks
Sammy was known for cheating. And a dope er. Love the ford tho.
Guys an idiot but the truck is a beast. Miss my brick
6,9 and 7.3 idi diesels are awesome engines are very dependable last for ever engines they will not win no races but they worked but the new diesel engines are junk if you need pulling power go buy a peterbilt lol
Strange deja vu
I have one of these the ole 6.9idi
Mine is a supercab long bed xlt lariat and its got the c6 auto so its a real slug lol
How do you get that LITTLE power out of a 6.9L? 😂
It's a diesel without a turbo, non-head studded with no air flow.
These engines were built for simplicity and durability and to be VERY cheap to make but strong.
Any diesel without a turbo is gutless, trust me. Turbo these and they are about on par with the 7.3 psd. I have a 7.3 IDI for reference
Qwantwz hp??
Nice truck but it's no FORD RANGER!
Hey bro I like the video
I would give an arm and a leg for that thing. Which is appropriate because that’s probably what it would cost ya😂
What? I paid 4500 for a mint diesel WITH TURBO from 1988, extended cab and all that. These ain't exactly worth a lot. Utilitarian and that's it
@@bldontmatter5319 mint's ass you did
You can have it for 20k hahaha
@@thevduber Maybe one LIKE it. Ain't no way in hell this specific truck goes for 20k.
@@charlesbrown4483 Bet I could find someone pay 20 for it. Especially in the rust belt as a non rusty truck
Cool 😀