FTX Outlaw (Brushless) 3S Lipo Speed Trial 4 (see description)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Seen as it was a dry sunny morning I thought I'd give the Outlaw a last chance saloon on the lane and see if it'll do 50! That's my curiosity satisfied anyway 🙂
From buying this model I immediately set about wanting to find out what it was capable of on-road. I'd already ran it off-road and it was evident it's a very capable rc. With a few changes here n there it always brings a smile to my face. And in all honesty, for the price of it - it hasn't disappointed me at all.. I was originally going to buy the Axial Yeti XL, absolutely fantastic rc. Until I stumbled across these and thought they're a bargain! Changing the electrics and adding a few FTX Ali upgrade parts and shock oil has totally transformed it. I know I'm having as much fun with this as I would with the Yeti XL - but for a snip of the price.. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Upgrades include - 3660 3800kv 4-pole brushless motor, Hobbywing WPSC8 120A waterproof ESC, several FTX ali upgrade parts, 23t pinion gear, stock spur gear, 2.2" alloy beadlocks in stock tyres, yellow foamex body panels (recent addition, stock body has gone) with LED lights, waterproof FlySky Rx, TowerPro MG958 servo, custom rear sway bar, FTX front sway bar, 3S Lipo, 30wt front shock oil, 40wt rear shock oil.
Great speed run brother 👍👍👍I done a speed test on mine the other day and got 50mph but I smashed my phone doing it, I couldn't retrieve my video so am going to do another one as soon as my GPS comes , am not smashing another phone lol. 😊😁😊
Ah unlucky Tony, yeah I'd sooner sacrifice a GPS rather than my phone lol.. I'm chuffed with where my Outlaw is at the mo, it looks great and goes great too.
Craggle RC , my new wheels have come also my GPS system, am going to do a video on what ive done to my truck, I think that's it now , if these wheels work am happy with mine to my friend, it's been a long road with my ftx outlaw but I think am finally there. I'll keep you posted brother. 😊👍😊👍
Hey, nice job.
I’m running up to 4s on mine but always seem to struggle with prop shafts using anything other then 2s.
I read the comment about your uprated one from ftx.
Will give that a bash 👍🏻
Yes the steel propshaft is a must... a worthy upgrade when upping the power on these things. Good luck with yours!
Fantastic vid brother great speed run 👍😁👍
Thanks Tony! It performs well. That's deffo the ceiling of the stock tyres, I think they'd tear into many pieces any higher speeds than that. But then again, they're not meant to be going 50mph on tarmac lol they perform extremely well offroad with 2S (around 40mph tops).
80 kmh is good going mate
I'm chuffed with that speed, it's what I originally set out to reach. Came so close on many occasions too! The rear anti role bar made the difference, kept it planted and settled on the road. Just glad the tyres held up, must've been pushing their speed limits haha..
Windscreen would help you at those speeds 🏎️
Very impressive speed and awesome sound;)
Thanks Ian, was chuffed it reached that speed without losing control. I'm certain there's more left in it, it's limiting factor now is it's stock tyres. Thanks for taking a look!
Epic, liked and subscribed. I am just on the RC Geeks website now looking at one, I have never had an RC car in my life but would like to get in to it. I would like to do some upgrading too and get a bit more excitement out of it. Thanks for this video mate, I'll trawl the comments to see what you have done to yours and will look In to what i can afford to do.
Did you go for one in the end? Mine’s still running as well as it was 👍🏻
With the addition of some toe in on the front wheels and some stiffer rear shocks that might help if you can add a bit of expo on the steering as well that might help with the twitchyness ?
Hi thanks for taking a look! Yeah it needs some toe in slightly, I'll be doing that soon when I get chance. I work away at sea so RC fun time is somewhat limited. It turned out it was the Turnigy servo which was playing up. Fitted a TowerPro and it stopped straight away, tried the Turnigy in a different rc and it behaved exactly the same way, twitching. So that was binned.. I saw a video on how to adjust the expo' so will have a meddle with that too.
Thanks for all this I appreciate it but could u not put a list off what u got on yours and the shops so I can just get it the same as yours
And if I get a Lipo motor would I have to change the cogs because I’m not so sure how to do them I have just got this car the last one I’ve only used two petrol ones
Sorry Dylan, I didn't get a notification for your message.. just use eBay to source the bits. Search for: 3660 3800kv brushless motor (it comes with a 5mm shaft), a 23tooth mod1 pinion gear 5mm shaft, Hobbywing WP-SC8 electronic speed controller, TowerPro MG958 servo (I've had to mount this on a slight angle on the chassis due to limited space, so drill another tiny hole), the FTX aluminium 23tooth motor mount (part number FTX8372), a 3S lipo of your choice (make sure the connections for the battery and ESC match, or you'll have to snip and solder a new one!). Hope that helps!
Hi. Great vid. That is some serious speed. I have the brushed stock version. If I use a LiPo battery will it make it perform better or destroy it. It's for my two young boys so I don't really want to be the one that ruins it for them!!! Many thanks for any advice...
nathan ormshaw Using a Lipo will be fine in the Outlaw, it’ll certainly perk it up a bit anyway and the battery will last longer than a NIMH would. Mine was the original brushed version, easy to change the electrics though and aim for higher speeds. Thanks for taking a look!
yeah nice dude
Thanks matey! Only just seen your reply lol
What would you say is better, brushed or brushless?
Brushless, without doubt..
Could we get a list of upgrades
Hi Blake, please see comment below listing the mods. Thanks for taking a look!
Hi looking to get full power out my outlaw can you advise on how to get this please.. newbie to rc
Is it brushed or brushless in it at the moment? I bought the brushed version, ran fit once or twice then changed to a brushless set up. You can pick these motor and ESC up online fairly cheaply, but best to use a Lipo battery then too, which also needs a certain type of balance charger. It's a minefield really of what's available to buy. I have 3 Outlaws, this one in the video (which looks a tad different now), and one set up as a Baja Bug, and the other a Trophy Truck sort of style. The formula I like in them is using a 3660 (size of motor) 3800kv (revs per volt) brushless motor, the 23 tooth pinion and Ali motor mount (outlaw has two choices, 23 or 17), a 120Amp brushless esc, and a more powerful steering servo. So, if you've got the blue brushless Outlaw and wanting more speed, just up the Lipo to a 3S battery (3 cells), or if using a brushed motor (the red Outlaw) then look at changing the electrics inside. Hope that helps!
Hello mate, help me out please. I purchased the same GoolRC motor as you, but it has a 5mm shaft diameter and the standard pinion is 3.1mm. What am I missing? Many thanks! :)
Tracy Panavia you’ll need a 5mm pinion, I can’t remember what pitch the gears are now off the top of my head?? I bought a 23t 5mm bore pinion (0.6modular or 48dp??)... yes my Outlaw has gone through many changes over the years, spare wheel went straight away.
@@cramalnig thanks for the reply! Yeah, done some research and I ordered a 5mm pinion today. Was gonna return the motor for swap with the shop but decided to keep it and ordered a 3650 combo anyway - they are so cheap🤑👍🏼 Yes 0.6 pitch, which if you wanna stay at 17t, are only stocked by a few peeps at 5mm. Still, got one coming. Thanks again.
How did you find controlling that outlaw at that speed? I put a 3s battery in my stock brushless outlaw and it hit 40mph (was the best i could do in the space in my road )but it was almost uncontrollable because of the rediculess but fun tyres, looks like u done well to keep in on the straight n narrow 👌
Hi thanks for watching! Yeah it becomes a bit lairy at higher speeds as the soft tyres struggle to cope with the torque from the motor - but offroad it's serious fun! I like the stock tyres anyway and have stuck with them since I've changed the Outlaw's appearance lately - offroad they're a brilliant tyre. The addition of the rear anti role bar seems to have definitely made a positive difference, all 4 wheels on the ground helps prevent it veering off to one side like it did before.
Hi Craggle, I'm new to RC cars, I have the outlaw brushless, I have been advised that using 3S will generally wear out the car quicker ? What parts would you advise upgrading to make the car more suitable ?
Sorry the reply is a tad late! The ali motor mount is a must, ali hubs too, and use the larger pinion (if yours doesn't already have it). I also changed to the ali mounts for the trailing arms (which I've left as stock), otherwise it's pretty much stock. Fair play it's been a brill offroad RC!
Nice job really moves ! Those gool motors don’t seem too bad at all ??
Yes it shifts very well to be fair.. has even notched up 50mph off-road too 😎 it’s using a 3660 3800kv motor with 5mm shaft. Not sure who the company is who produce these motors, but there are various company “brand names” smattered on the cans, such as GoolRC, Surpass Hobby etc.. They’re around £23 ish now to buy. Thanks for taking a look!
Hi I got one what’s making it go so fast mine doesn’t have the brushless motor but does it mean it needs want to go that far
Merry Xmas! It's entirely your choice, I bought the brushed version with the intention of installing my own electrics replacing the stock brushed set up. There's a noticeable difference in motor types, and when using a Lipo battery as to the stock NIMH which the brushed version comes with. Though the quicker you go, the more mods it'll need to help stability and control. Mine runs on a 3800kv motor using a 3S Lipo, so that means the motor revs a tad over 42000rpm. Coupled with the larger pinion gear, it transforms the model completely. I'm pretty certain it'll notch over 50mph, but using the stock tyres (which balloon) it becomes too unstable.
Could I not just put that battery your saying in it to make it fast
And by any chance could you show me your battery
You can run a 2S lipo with the stock motor no problems, quite a few folk have tried 3S and brunt their motors out though, having said that mine didn't burn out on 3S lipo, I soon went brushless ya see changing all electrics in the car. If you go brushless then you'll need a brushless ESC to suit aswell. You can buy combo's (ESC and motor) from shops through eBay.
My 3S batteries all vary, all hardcase with EC5 or Dean's connectors.
Not sure if FTX have changed the ESC that comes with the model, so it might not handle a Lipo battery as appose to a NIMH.
Better than the ftx Viper 😉
They’re both good in their own ways, Viper is certainly a lot more stable at higher speeds than the Outlaw. But the way the Outlaw tackles rougher off-road terrain is brilliant to watch!
It ain’t the Servo , The Linkages are weak as Soon as you give it some power it pulls to one sode
Yeah I changed the servo, cured it. Curious I then tried that turnigy servo into another RC and it behaved just the same, twitchy. Buggered servo.
Craggle RC
Ohh ok , my Carnage kept pulling to one side on full throttle .
Hey! Where did you get that metal drive shaft from? Thanks
I bought it direct from FTX, plenty of upgrade parts on their website. Thanks for watching!
i experienced a similar fault with a different car in the end it was the radio
Yeah I'd changed the radio throughout one piece at a time, process of elimination, tried all the various settings on the TX, no joy. Then tried the servo in another RC and the servo behaved just the same.. It was filed in the bin afterwards. Using TowerPro now, much better!
Hi, are you using a steel spur gear?
Hi, no all the Outlaw videos so far have been with the original spur gear, haven’t worn the teeth on any. I have bought a “steel” spur gear, but when it arrived it’s not steel at all, it’s some sort of composite material from Robinson Racing, much tougher than the stock spur, but was hoping it was steel..
Hi mate,
What shock oil would you recommend?
Hi, I’m running 50wt or 40wt in the front and definatly 40wt rear in this Outlaw if my memory serves me right?? Seems to handle off-road with ease.
Do you need to upgrade the speed controller aswell as the battery for 3s?
Hi Iain, not sure about the stock brushless esc - I’d hope the stock brushless esc would accept 3S lipo, all the electrics in mine are of my own choice, a 120a esc which is good for 4S.
How did you buy it brushless? On every website it says it’s brushed
The red body Outlaws come brushed as standard, a few simple changes here n there and it became brushless. Easy to do!
@@cramalnig ok, thanks for replying. I want to buy this outlaw instead of the brushless because I’m am still a little bit new to rc cars and I do not want something too fast yet. Also how do I know when the brushes have warn away and do I only need to replace the 550 brushed Motor when I do know? One last thing, do you think the BRUSHED outlaw is worth buying?
It is worth buying if I'm honest, one thing I will say which relates to any RC car, and that's take care when landing after a jump. Ideally you need to match wheel speed to the speed the car is travelling at so as to not inflict a shock on the drivetrain, or the gearing and diffs will suffer.
Stick with using a 2S lipo aswell when using the stock motor. The stock motor has internal brushes which you can't see (or maintain really). You can still get yourself a brushless combo, say around a 3800kv motor and use the same 2S Lipo battery. It only goes as fast as what you tell it. Good luck and enjoy!
@@cramalnig thanks for replying, I just bought it! 👍
Good one! It comes with a 7.2v NIMH battery, for slightly better performance upgrade to a 2S Lipo. And ultimately a brushless motor when you're ready. You'll soon get the bug for spending on upgrades!
Great video mate. What 3s battery do you have and motor. ??
Hi Tony, thanks for taking a look! I use a multitude of makes, at the time of the video I think the model was running a Floureon 3S 5200mah. They're soft packs though, just after this I replaced them all with hardcase Zippy batteries. The motor is a GoolRC 3660 3800kv motor, I'm running a few of these in various cars and they're great.
Craggle RC ...Thanks mate I'll get some Zippos will it be ok for a 60amp esc?
As a personal preference I don't like putting a 3S lipo through a 60A esc, it's fine in the likes of a rock crawler, but in the larger heavier and faster RC's which need more demand - like the Outlaw - it would thermal overload and cut out for a while. I used to race a Hooligan in a rally class at my club which had at the time a 60a esc, I tried a 3S lipo in one race and even though it is a light n fast car, it didn't last long. So from that moment on I chose to up the amps and buy 120A esc's. That way I can still run 2S, and safely run 3S with no worries, perhaps go to 4S if so desired.
I'll get 2s hard case to be safe until i upgrade to a 120 amp ....Thanks for your advice again mate .
Hi mate it's Tony I've set up my channel now .Hope you like it . I've done them mods to my FTX OUTLAW have a look . Thank you for all your advice. ✋👍👊😊
Are you using a stock motor
I used the stock motor to begin with in the first video but it soon went brushless, it's using a GoolRC 3800kv 3660 motor.
@@cramalnig nice buggered the motor up on mine the other day replacing with a hobby wing 4000kv combo can't wait to see what it does on 3s
What kv is the motor and nice vid 🤙
It's a 3800kv 3660 size motor, GoolRC. I use a lot of the GoolRC motors in various RC's with excellent performance and reliability. It's fitted with a Hobbywing WP-SC8 esc, 23t pinion, and 3S lipo. But for offroad I stick with 2S (which still reeps 40mph!)
Thanks happy new year 🤙
nice video what motor and esc are you running? thanks
Dominic Brownnutt it’s running a 3800kv 3660 goolrc motor with metal 5mm shaft 23t pinion to a steel spur. It usually runs on 3S which is crazy, hits 50mph even when off-road. The esc is the Hobbywing WPSC8 150A. Had no issues whatsoever with it all. The car itself has changed a great deal since that video. I must make another up-to-date vid really
@@cramalnig thanks i will upgrade mine soon
@@cramalnig look forward to see it
Hi mate I've just seen this TSKY 120A 1/10 1/8 6v ESC Senseless Brushless/Sense Brushless. Do you think this will be ok.
That’s probably the same esc as what I was using in this at the time, a bright blue colour? The 120A esc works a treat, easily handles a larger motor and 3S. Though they’re not waterproof... a few drops of water and it’s goodnight Vienna! I’ve since fitted it with a 120A waterproof esc
Yeah that's the one ...cool I can order it then. 🤗 don't think it will be as fast as my Bison though lol. Thanks again mate for your advice 👍👊👍👊
No problems! I’m sure it’ll work out fine. Do you have a Hobbywing program card?
No way I thought it was plug and play .😣.dont know how to use one. Why do you need one ? 😩
They come preinstalled with a “stock” setting which is fine for getting the rc mobile. There’s many parameters which can be changed to suit the car/motor/you.. it’s easy enough to do, and plenty of videos!
Hi buddy , is this still on the standard motor ?
No Paul it's a GoolRC 3660 3800kv motor, with 23tooth pinion n ali motor mount. Thanks for taking a look!
Thanks for the reply , it’s certainly quick . I’ve just put a 3s Lipo on the standard motor . I checked the spec and apparently it can take the battery just wondered if anyone else had tried this . Don’t want the motor to only last an hour !
From what I've heard they can handle it yes, stock is a 3660 motor anyway which are meant for 3S.
Mine was originally brushed, only a few weeks later the 3800kv went into it and a 120a esc - totally changed the car. That's when I had to eliminate the torque twist it developed straight away, so made a rear anti role bar.
Yeah the torque twist is an issue, even on the standard battery. Definitely need to treat it with respect with the 3s fitted . Going to look at making/fitting some kind of anti-roll bar later .