This Cheap Amp KILLS Expensive Tube Amps!
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- Tube Amps are dead, long live Solid State Amps!
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Are Tube Amps dead, what do you think? :)
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They're not dead, because there will always be people who refuse to believe that solid state can sound as good ;)
The last show I was at I couldn't see any amps. It sounded badass.. on stage, I would miss that speaker push
I'm never going back to tube amps. I used to play on an Ampeg SVT-2 Pro with a 8x10" cabinet. I only had troubles: sloppy sound, expensive maintenance, and heavy AF. I got myself a solid state Ampeg and the 4x10 cabinet and have never been happier.
No. Other things are just getting way better. And it's fucking great!
No
I played one of those through a orange 4x12 at Sweetwater. I was guitar shopping and was really surprised how great it sounded for metal. It sounded really good with the alpha and omega pickups.
If Schuldiner, Abbott and Windstein could make a career with transistors, then having tubes is just a matter of preference. ;)
But on a serious note, a great player can make anything work.
And Dimebag
@@mr.meeseeks6090 Might wanna look up Dimebag's surname bruh.
@@panic_chords oh shiiiit *sips dumbf*ck juice*
@@mr.meeseeks6090 😂
@@mr.meeseeks6090 Lol
10 seconds into that track and I forgot all about the amp. That was one of your best ever Pete! Rock on man!!!!!
it's a classic of his at this point
My parents and brother got into a car accident today, everyone is alive, I am in great shock, but this song calmed me down, thank you Pete
@@NicoDoesLP thanks!
Sending my best wishes, mate!
Sorry to hear about this, hoping everyone is okay! :)
@@peteplaysmusic they are =)
@@0xptomaine forgive me if this seems disrespectful, but I thought you were going to say your Orange survived as well. Glad your family is okay though.
DHL just delivered the Super Crush 100 to me this morning! I've played it now for a couple of hours, and damn. It chuggs!
Orange has been killing it in the solid state game for a while, and the Super Crush 100 just cements their position on top in my opinion. I can see so many people picking this up as their first "big-boy" head, and just holding on to it forever because of how freaking great it sounds.
didn't dimebag make a career out of solid state squealy amps? and for once i like the sound of an orange amp. nice mix!!
He did. On the end of his career he was warming up to tubes, however.
So did George Lynch. Dime and Lynch used the Randall’s
Yes, but his tone is really extreme. I love it, but I wouldn't wanna have it as my own tone.
But there's also other, less obvious examples. Iron Maiden played solid states on Somewhere in Time.
He did…. I feel like I saw an interview with Terry Date who said Dime would try different things in the studio though, and he’d always come back to his SS amps.
It sucks he got shot before he got to record a record with tubes. Taken too soon
Great job as always Pete. I think there's a time and a place for tube and solid state amps. On this occasion, you nailed it. Awesome tune brother.
Whenever a Solid State conversation comes up, besides the usual suspects, I always tip my hat to the guy who recorded 4 of the greatest CD's ever, with a tone that everyone, in one way or another, has chased. Ty Tabor of King's X
Eddie Van Halen's big solo with Michael Jackson was played & recorded with a solid-state amp ;)
Allan Holdsworth used the Yamaha DG130 for some of his tours, same thing with Greg Howe & Tony MacAlpine using solid-state technology for their tours._.
I really like King's X, "Gretchen Goes to Nebraska" album, and I even have a Lab 11 amp- but never, not once; have I sought that tone.
I do like some SS amps a lot, (like my '68 Acoustic model 260) and I routinely use a Yamaha THRII 30, but tube amps are far from dead.
Ty is actually using this exact amp now too...
I've been a tuba amp guy for 40-years (since I was a little child). I hated solid state until around 10-years ago when they began to sound acceptable for some applications. But now, I cannot believe how far that technology has advanced in my lifetime. I had my Engl for the studio and I would have a few cheap amps for rehearsal, or practice. Unsure about this amp, but I bought a Blackstar solid state, as I am a fam of their tube amps, and it just sounds fantastic and I use that in the studio too now. So easy to work with. Nice video dude. Thanks.
Very nice demo Pete. I've heard different players get many great tones from this amp. Most of what I do isn't as heavy as what you did here. I'm thinking that this amp will give me what I need for just about any style I want to play. Cheers Pete!
Every video you do is so good and I think the great consistency is guaranteed.
Man, your riffs are so good \m/
That mix was Sick! Friggin loved it man!
When I stopped gigging I switched from an Orange Dark Terror to a Boss Katana. Between that and the Super Crush, I don't see a need to ever go back to tubes tbh
I've got 2 100 watt 1×12 and I have them in stereo. I play with a drummer for fun and it's nice to have one for home and 2 for when I jam. It's the perfect rig
@@StaySic4Ever i have spider tube amp its bitchin amp but i gota admit ss are getting really close. so much its more of fell thing than anything.
Love the Katana. Cant believe how cheap they are as far as cost! Get over the whole "solid state vs tube" thing and it's a great amp. Would buy another. Or this Orange Supercrush.
@@saltpeter7429 How is the Katana? I was actually ordering a EVH 5150 combo amp. I might check the Katana at guitar center in person.
@@FunKaYxxD1sCO Honestly a really great portable amp would be the Yamaha THR series. I had the THR30II and it's tube I believe or a hybrid of given with the app you can control it and access tons of other options. Different effects and change those up. You can also save settings and change how it sounds in regards to what speakers given it uses different IRs. So you could do like a 1x12 or 2x12 or 4x12 kind of sound. Then also switch the kind of speaker being like a Vintage 30 or Creamback or what have you.
You also don't have to tweak much to get it to sound great. The battery is rechargeable so you can take it with you. It has a USB out for recording and a left and right out to plug into an external speaker. It's also Bluetooth enabled making so you can use it as a speaker or to play along with songs. You can also save your presets and use it as a bass amp as well.
If you get the Line 6 wireless receiver it'll charge it when it's plugged into the Amp rather than your guitar.
The Thr10ii does similar things but you can't save your presets and its solid state. But it's till a really great amp with basically the same customization.
I believe it's the 5 that doesn't have Bluetooth or wireless capabilities. For all of them though you can get a pedal controller. Or at least I believe for all of them.
As for the Katana MKII 50 which is what I currently have.
It's absolutely fantastic. You can switch how much wattage you push. Either .5, 25, or 50. If you plug it into your computer through USB you can record as well use the Software on the PC to edit things. It has a very deep customization.
It's almost as deep as the Helix. You have a big array of different effects to choose from like Acoustic simulation or changing humbuckers to single coils and vice versa. Different kinds of delay as well as deep editing the delay.
You can also have access to an 8 band eq for your tone. As well as different pedal options for boosters and distortion and so forth.
You don't have to do much to get great sound out of it. But the options are definitely there.
So far it's my favorite. However, I wish I would've got my THR30II back. But it is what it is.
The Yamaha is $500 and the Katana is about $250 I believe. I got mine used at Guitar Center for $180 or so.
I love the way that Orange sounds. I want to buy one myself. I like your track Pete
Thanks! :)
They did the right thing sending it to you, that demo is going to convince a lot of people to get one
I have a CR120H and a TH100. I love both. My tube driven TH100 has the benefit of more headroom for different/louder situations. The CR120H allows me to jam and record at times I need to keep more quiet, and have used it in some situations that didnt involve huge bass amps and drums, and worked well. Application and knowing what to do with an amp is important. That being said, Orange makes the best solid state and tube amp for me, and I plan to score the Super Crush 100 as well. Thanks for the killer demo !🤘
Sounds great. Problem with this is always the same though. It sounds great in a video, you buy and go home and suddenly all the glory is gone, when listening to the pure speaker output. Many amps sound great on a recording ^^ I learned this lesson already way too often to order anything ive never really heard in a standard 2x12 speaker or something.
My thought is quite the opposite. Listening to amp recordings have never sound as good as hearing it live.
Sounds sick! Had a mid-90's Crate GX-130C for awhile and finally got the Boss Katana 100 MKII 2x12 combo, solid state is honestly really... well, solid!
Had lots of success with carvin"s sx line ...a combo and 100 watt head. Still have them 20 yrs later
Great playing!
Sounds great! The riffs at the end are chuggy greatness
Love it, awesome playing, my fav utube guitarist.
I think it sounds amazing! Plus the reliability of being Solid State, not to mention how cheap they are! For new guitarists who don't want to overspend on gear, this is awesome.
can I use this song for one of my videos on review Orange amps for the Spanish community?
Sounds awesome 👌
Thanks for the killer video I just ordered mine I won't get it until November I can't wait to get my combo I been looking for a great solid Amp for a long time I tried a Fender tone Master that didn't work I tried a Boss Katana it wasn't bad I tried Crate not bad and I had a Roland Jazz chorus and I loved it but it was a beast to load up by my self so now I think I found the Holy Grail I own a 1982 Mesa Boogie Mark 2 B and I love it to death but I am 61 with a bad back and I just can't lift my Mesa Boogie anymore so I think my new Orange Crush Super 100 is going to work for me and it only weighs like 40 pounds thank you 🍊 Orange😎🎸🤘🍊
That is such a sick riff.... MORE!
it cuts through a mix sooo nicely
Good shit, Pete! I have one of these, I run a Boss GE-7 thru the effects loop... acts like a super charger! I don't think it's gonna be the end of tube amps, but, they do sound good... cheers!
Great Song, that deserves vocals!! Thank you!!
If I didn't already have the Rocker 15 terror I'd be seriously interested in this. Solid state preamps have come a long way with the Revv G series pedals also sounding absolutely killer. The solid state Friedman stuff as well.
Revv g3 is my main dirty tone, and at 10% the price of the big boy, it’s a win win in my book
@@adrianvoelzke7518 Yeah the whole line sounds killey through basically any poweramp or IR.
Or in front of an amp for that matter.
Have you ever checked out the Peavey Bandit family? Anything from 1989 through now is great, with the '94-99 and '00-'04 models at the top of the food chain. They nailed it.
The Super Crush is killer too, especially if the Orange tone rustles your jimmies.
@@TheKLeifheit13 never had one but have heard them online and they are indeed awesome. It seems like development of SS amps just died in the early 00s in favour of digital. Glad to see people going back to SS designs again and really showing what they're capable of.
sounds good!
This sounds very familiar to what I remember my rocker-verb sounded like, curious on how it takes pedals. I’m happy that the myth of transistors amps sounding bad is getting debunked, between this, fender tone masters and roland amps there’s plenty of inexpensive and reliable options
Wow.
This is what I was looking for.
I need simplicity, no tubes. Great sound.
I think the solid state game is creating a lot more competition for tubes. The ability to better replicate that "tube" sound without the need for all the glass is happening in spades. I bought a Hughes & Kettner Black Spirit 200 a few years ago and haven't considered a tube amp since.
All that time playing Halo with Agufish is rubbing off on your riffs 😄
I saw this playing in my feed a while back, I never watched but YT counted it, second video watch! Damn your playing is fun and also killerAF not basic but human feelings connection and melodies, so it all feels like natural music we want to hear, not a musical assault, but a tonal assault and I love it dude!!
I need to try one of these in person. But I can tell you one thing I have learned in decades of playing guitar. The hard thing isn't making an SS amp sound good. Plenty of SS amps have sounded really good. The hard part is making it feel good. Playing through an SS amp is a completely different feel from tube amps. There is none of the give, squish, breath, elasticity or however you want to describe the feel that you get from a tube amp and it's tube power section. Not that it's a good or bad thing. It's just different.
This man gets it
For around $50 you can get an ART tube mic preamp; put it in the effects loop... You will be amazed at how you suddenly have that feeling, reaction, and the nuanced tonality of the valve, as well as increased volume output! It's been one of the greatest hacks I've discovered.
Someone make a sag pedal asap
I was about to say something quite similar. Have to try it in person. It's hard to describe, I call it tonal depth and the way a tube amp responds to my playing. To be fair, not all tubes amps have that depth and response either and may as well be solid state. Another thing for me (again, hard to describe) is where your drive/dist and notes/chords respond as one, opposed to sounding as two separate signals combined and the latter I don't like. Tube amps can have that dual sound and especially SS amps. Quality of speakers and cabinet plays a huge role too. I tried a popular brand name tube head with it's matching cab, was unimpressed. Plugged that head into a different cab and it was, oh, there it is, sounds great!. It's a tricky equation, I've heard some quite convincing SS amps but still falls short. Claim after claim over the years, a company claims to have nailed it with SS. If they did, they've shot themselves in the foot with their tube line. Even high end amp modelers that sound usably very good, to me, still falls just short. I'm a tough sell, my ears are tuned to many years of that defining sound I chase....but can't afford LOL....I get very close with my rig. If there's a SS amp that'll cut it, I'm onboard, replacing tubes and filter caps etc is expensive.
@@elihue_redneckreview i can't find many people talking about this online. is there anyone documenting this?
sounds pretty sick for a solid state amp
I know the riffs from slipknot and mastodon, but this is a sneaky way to make me patreon. U got me good 🤘🤩🤘
It sound absolutely killer. Have you tried the Hughes&Kettner Black Spirit 200? It's a similar one. And it's awesome
Can I use it straight into my audio interface or do I need a cab mandatory?
If I ever go beyond making music with plugins, this will probably be my first real amp. It sounds great!
One question: how does it respond to a boost pedal like a tubescreamer etc?
AMAZING! I boost a Crush Pro CR60C combo with a MXR GT-OD, and the tones there are sick!
The selling point about this amplifier should not be the cost. It should be the dependability of solid-state and the sound. You will never have to worry about tubes going bad and it will always sound great..... every time you turn it on!!!! I have the CR 120 and I'm really looking forward to the Super Crush. I have a JCM900 and a Dual Rectifier ..... I don't use them anymore
Could one use one of these Orange head units with a Fender 100XL amp safely?
How was the demo track recorded with cab and microphones or direct in ? Good shit
That sounds amazing
Sounds awesome. Did you need to use an od/boost to get pick attack? I own a crush pro head and it needs an overdrive to get it to chug. Wondering if its worth the upgrade.
I did, it’s got a Precision Drive in front of it. But it does have a good amount of gain, not on the level of a 5150 or 6505 but enough to chug. The ‘Sleep’ style riff was without the OD so that’s what it sounds like with everything on 10 haha. Thanks for watching! :)
I've seen plenty of demo of this amp, and you are the first one to make it sound good. All the others sounded dull, not enough gain, fizzy at times. But this sounds killer.
Fizzy isn’t the word brother. You mean Fuzzy Orange amps are known for the fuzzy tone. Fizzy and fuzz is totally different homie
What was your signal path? Did you boost?
How does it feel with a 4x12 cab?
Did you have an overdrive pedal in front of the amp? Sounded killer!
What kind of cab/IR did you use? (Sorry if you mentioned it and I missed it)
So when does this amp get released? I see no date yet
has those early static x vibes i'm digging it.
Solid States honestly work just as well for a lot of higher gain genres.
I really need to get a cab for my teeny Micro Dark, though I wouldn't mind getting a decent Doom flavoured Solid State amp like an old Sunn Beta Lead
It sounds killer! I use a boss katana and love it.
makes me want a Chapman guitar
It sounded great, but it was missing some aggressiveness for riffing imo. But that'd likely be easy to fix with a tube screamer or an SD-1, and that'd still be way cheaper than a similar high gain 100 watt tube head, which usually also need a boost or overdrive in front.
Let's be honest, you would probably use a tube screamer on most amps regardless
Is this mix anywhere on Spotify? Or just the vid?
Sounded sweet.
Cool demo and sounds good, but would good to be compared to a tube amp of similar cost, maybe the marshall DSL
Nice tune!
Thanks! :)
I think it would be awesome if you explained it detail your awesome looking set up behind you. I’m old school , and don’t understand any of it , but I want to. And that amp sounds great.
sounds good
I got my super crush 100 about six months ago along with a marshall origin 212a vertical cab, with celestion 70/80 speakers and omfg this amp absolutely is a tube amp killer, tube amps are really really good but considering the price difference between this and a big boy tube amp, i prefer this amp above all else. This amp gets insanely loud and holds up really nicely, doesnt fall apart when pushed and can sounds really good at low volumes, you could seriously play anything through the super crush 100, absolute steal in my honest opinion.
That didn’t sound like sleep at all but fucking gnarly nonetheless LOL. Good shit.
You sold me buddy. Just ordered one!
I really want to hear this VS a real rockerverb through the same cab and mic position. I suspect the differences would be well within "matter of taste"
When I think of Orange Amps I think of Andy Powell in Wishbone Ash from the 70's and later, Ty Tabor in Kings X. But then I'm older than you.
Do a Crate GFX-212 next!!!
It sounds so good thang I was going to buy a boss katana MK2 50 now I have a tough choice here did I mentioned it sounds so good wow!
I have been glass free for years. This amp sounds killer. I use a ISP Theta preamp into a Quilter Tone Block into a Marshall 4x12 with 1990’s era V30’s. I have a Marshall mono bloc 100/100 el34’s. I have A/B the Marshall/ Quilter. I prefer the Quilter.
The new solid state amps are pretty amazing really. I have a Fender and it rocks as hard as anything.
Which Fender?
@@Count_Apollyon5 mustang 25
Sounds 👍
It's like someone put a metal zone in an amp ahahahah
is this recorded with the D.I output or with a microphone in the cabnet?
Will I give up my tube amp?....no. would I happily use this at a gig? Yes. I like what I have but I'm ready for a new backup amp, which is typically solid state and one of these would be a great choice.
It seems to have more gain then the crush pro ? I have the pro and can get close to this tone with a good over drive. The argument I make is if you’re playing true doom with a serious fuzz pedal like a darkarts tone work pedal you need tubes to bring out the flavor of the pedal. This sounds great for pure death / melotic metal
Guys from KATALEPSY - russian slamming brutal death with 8strings, also using solid-state Oranges, search them on youtube when they show how they reach their sound. Orange is LOVE
very nice thingy
You outta try one of these with a Boss SD-1, it tightens up a lot of that loose low end from the amp, but it also makes it sound even beefier and lets you push the gain on the amp a little bit more to get more saturation from the preamp!
Really cool little combination I feel like would blow everybody away.
Nice track man. Good to hear some music from you. It feels like it has been too long...
Thanks! I still hope to make a proper album soon :)
@@peteplaysmusic Put out an announcement when you do. Would love to check it out. Hope it is a fun and awesome experience.
do you do master volume up, channel volume down or the opposite?
I generally leave the Master down. On Orange amps pushing the Master tends to push the Mids and low Mids a lot which I don’t like too much. But others for sure will love that sound, especially as it’s louder :)
That was chunky as all hell!
If you did a blind test on several heads through the same cabinet, I would guess that 90 percent would not be able to tell the difference...based on this track!
You got it right that solid state amps kick ass and they are cheaper. However the service to fix them when they break and they always break is why the tube is a better choice if you like solid equipment. The difference in sound is hard to tell apart. Tube amps will never die.
I bought this a week ago. It’s better than a 100 watt blackstar tube head I bought so I’m selling the blackstar. This Orange sounds especially good for punk if you put the high at 6, the mid at 3,and the low at 7 with the gain at 7 or 8. Very easy to dial up and sounds amazing
What is the track on 2 08 ???
There's just some "thing" about solid state ones.
Also he could've substituted Black Sabbath riff in the place of Sleep riff and it would've get the point across.
Iommi doesn't play Orange amps tho, he uses Laney heads.
@@Nestorglass th-cam.com/video/qRcYjJQ0JHg/w-d-xo.html
@@ZombiedustXXX he could’ve rejected them …. But didn’t
Iommi and Butler both hated those early Oranges at the Beat Club! Too clean and way middy. Later on like 72 or ,73 Orange began making amps alot dirtier than the early ones.
@@ZombiedustXXX on that note this OP is 4 weeks old I don’t care anymore
Nice!!!!!
I was here for the review, stayed for the song :D
Ok so dime used both .. the krankenstein was a 100 all tube beast.. the dime amp dean made was solid state .. he also used a mix of tube Marshall's and solid state Randle... so like its been said its all about the tone your looking for .. this orange is a beast for sure . Reminds me of the crate stealth to be honest with that nasty chug it has.
Well time to fall asleep to soothing pantera
Helps my insomnia
Killer riff, mate.
Thanks! :)
What was the tuning here?
Now that sounds epic....amd in your capable hands it should sound nothing but 🤘🏼😈🤘🏼
Wow that music is cool :D