Just paired my ryzen 7 7800x3d with a RX 7900XTX Red Devil. And put it on a highish end motherboard that Jason loves😇 Put it all in Jasons favorite case. The lian Li O11D Evo🤣 Altho i did NOT use Lian LI fans and cooler. I went for Arctic LF II 360 and Arctic P12 fans.
That’s crappy. I got lucky because in Newegg it dropped to 229. Plus I had 40 bucks in egg points. lol. I almost went with the i9-12900k. But for the extra 100 bucks. I don’t see me using that extra money the right way. I would offer to buy and ship one to you. But the last time I did that. The shipping ended the savings. lol. We tried.
Haven't built a PC in about 15 years. Kids and life got in the way. Decided to jump in at the Mid level and this helped me decide on the Ryzen 5 5600X and the Radeon 6700XT with 32gb DDR4 ram. Lets just hope I still know how to build one. I'll keep using these videos for reference.
@@ploob.2207 bro, DDR is almost a 30 year old tech and DDR5 isn't worth the significant cost increase for the slight increase in performance over DDR4. Also, you just cant "upgrade" from DDR4 to DDR5--you have to rebuild your whole system. The pinouts aren't even the same between DDR4 and DDR5. Basically double your build price (at least double) to use DDR5 over DDR4 and your speed improvement is going to be maybe 10%.
@@keldrini7939 Tell me why. At no point did you address any of the reasons I listed for choosing DDR4 over DDR5 and I'm pretty sure you don't even know the difference between DDR4 and DDR5--especially in the context of speed benchmarks.
It can be a lot I know! If you are just getting into PC building check out our "PC Parts Explained 2024" video. That's a good overview to get you started
PLEASE KEEP DOING THESE! I love this format with recommendations and capable parts! It makes things way less confusing for me and narrows down my options way more.
You want your GPU to be the bottleneck. Here's why: If you plan on keeping the system a good few years, ultimately, you're going to upgrade the system at some point. It is *far* easier to upgrade your GPU than your CPU - which could well require an entirely new motherboard. I.e. Basically a new system. Get the CPU/motherboard which gives you the most headroom for future upgrades, and go for a solid midrange graphics card with good performance/value ratio. In 3 or 5 years you can replace your mid range card with another high-mid card, and I bet your high end CPU will still keep up with it. Also, if your CPU/motherboard is strong, you always have the options of adding more RAM etc etc... If you go the other way and max out the GPU against and cut corners on the CPU, you may have a slightly better system for *today* but you've limited your future expansion much more.
@@jarlwilliam9932 For gaming, get a 7800x3d, 32 gb of ram on an x670. Check how many sata ports they have tho, many of the x670 boards only have 2 or 4 sata and just incase you need to use more, you'd need a motherboard with more.
There's a consumer-specific set of value propositions to consider. Better performance now and over the lifetime of the current build is real value. Not everyone will keep most of their system when they upgrade again regardless of how much they try to plan ahead and leave 'room' for a 1-2 component migration. The timing/chance comes into play. And it's not the worst thing in the world to have a second system left on hand (or nearly one) after you upgrade. You can use it for different purposes or gaming in another room, gift to another, sell, etc. And the point in time where you will have the most breathing room for CPU upgrades will be the beginning of a new platform which exposes you to the most potential early-adopter issues.
Insanely good pairing. I bought my gf a system with an i5-10400f and a 1660ti with 32gb RAM and an NVME drive for 600 Canadian and honestly, compared to my PC which cost me 3500 CAD to build a few years ago, I don't think I'm ever spending big money on PCs ever again.
The classic 3600 and 1660 super is the only pairing I could afford when we had to replace a PC during the dreaded shortage a few years ago. It's still going alright. :) It certainly cost more than $100 at the time lol
@@DissoGG i am impressed with the lower end PCs lately but still going to save up to build a custom loop "no limit" monster just for the fun and the thrill
@@josephobuck5409high end gpu’s can cost upwards of $1000, high end CPU’s can cost upwards of $500 or more. High end motherboards can cost upwards of $300 or more. A psu that can handle that hardware may cost $200 or more. High speed ram can cost $150-200. This isn’t including the pc case, fans, water cooling/cpu cooler, accessories such as custom cables and not to mention peripherals such as keyboard and mouse, monitor and such. Keep in mind the prices I listed are in USD so I imagine CAD will be even more so it can get really pricy. Don’t let this discourage you though, like the people in this reply thread said, you can get good performance with budget hardware nowadays as games aren’t really getting more demanding nowadays on the low end. I personally am running a 3600 and 1660ti for 1080p gaming on my college pc and it’s served me quite well. I do though want to upgrade to 1440p gaming and want to play some more demanding games at higher graphics settings so I will be upgrading to the rtx 5070 when it becomes available as well as maybe the newest Gen Ryzen 5.
Had already picked up the 7800x3d in black Friday deals for £330 but instead of pairing with a 7900xt for £730 bagged a 7800xt Hell hound for £419. Couldn't justify the extra fps for over £300. Will use in my new build and wait to see what 4k cards next gen will bring 😊 Thanks for all your help Jason on my first build 👌
the 300 saved now will be much more worth in 3-4years if you upgrade your gpu, the 7800x3d will still be really neat, but swapping out the gpu is much better
@@dinkin_flicka14 Me too. Building mine tomorrow, last of the parts arrived yesterday. I wanted the 7900xt but the prices for some reason don't tend to scale just according to the currency conversion here in Canada. The 7900xt is around $1100 Canadian or more depending which version, that's more than I was willing to spend on it so I went 7800xt. I'm doing 1440p anyway so I think it'll be fine for a while.
@@bartterp88 thank u, u guys are so nice. I’ve researched a lot and the thing I’m most scared abt is installing the cpu into the motherboard. I’ve heard it’s really sensitive and easy to break. Let’s hope it goes well for me 😅
Brilliant video. I'm on my third or fourth PC build at this point, and the biggest problem whenever I return to the job (we're talking at least 6-7 years between builds) is trying to figure out what combinations make sense. It's pretty hard to find good resources on the topic. So thank you for making this video, and making the info so clear and easy to parse!
@@Nero_9000 13400f gives you plenty of headroom and be cost effective if going with a ddr4 mobo. A ryzen 5600 would be more than sufficient as well and quite a bit cheaper.
Biggest challenge may be selecting memory with timings that are beneficial to performance. If you're into gaming, follow YT wisdom and your discretion. For me it's hi-res images and a 1080ti works great, but its 11GB video RAM become limiting. For me and upgrade to, say, a RTX 4070ti Super (basically a slightly limited 4080) means 16GB but the ray tracing power will not help Lightroom (Camera Raw) and Photoshop. 32GB RAM is frequently exceeded so my workstation has 64GB (Windows - Linux and MacOS may need half of that or less). As to video RAM, part of image processing is done in the GPU and the OS wants to keep lots of pixels in the GPU RAM. GPU as coprocessor for LrC started a couple years ago and LrC was the only "user". Today even Windows uses it, e.g. to cache icons and previews of folder hierarchies. SW tools to "manage" that are limited.
I love your thoughtfulness about PC gaming. You explain it so it's easy to understand. PC builders NEED to watch your videos before they buy anything. Killer video as always 🔥
@@dinkin_flicka14 This is what I just got. For my purposes, it is working great. It is for gaming, but I tend to play games that are more CPU and memory intensive, so to me, it made sense to shift the balance in favor of a higher end CPU and more RAM (64Gb). If you are running at higher resolution and primarily playing graphics intensive action games that need all the FPS you can get, I can see his recommendation for a higher end graphics card making sense with this processor.
@@dinkin_flicka14 It is. But you probably don't see 7800x3d with 7800XT. Maybe 7600 or 7700. Unless you really want the 7800x3d and money aren't super tight.
I especially like your cpu/gpu combo videos for the information about minimum and maximum pairings. Years ago I built a PC with a 3600 and 5700xt for 1080p 144hz, which was later upgraded to a 6800 and 1440p 170hz, and more recently a 5800x3d, with an eye to eventually pair it with something at your recommended max performance. (8800xt later this year?) Being able to alternate between cpu and gpu upgrades without the system ever feeling unbalanced has been great. If you are still producing this content whenever AM6 comes out, I'll be counting on you to help me repeat the process for my next build cycle. 👍
still using that 6800 gpu? Just finished my rig last week and that thing is a beast even paired with a ryzen 5 5600. Never has a $900 build performed so damn good.
Sir i am a poor student,i live in bangladesh,at present i want a computer but i have no ability, so if you give me a cpu then i will be forever grateful
So far I am super happy with my Intel i5 13600k pared with 32gb of 6400mhz ram and a 4070 ti. Does 1440p over 100 fps with everything I throw at it. I did overclock the GPU and CPU but is only about 400mhz on both components.
If you have money for a midrange gaming pc (1200-1500) definitely go for the amd 5 7600(x), over the i5. Single core (amd) is mostly better for gaming, cheaper and has ddr5. Next to that you can upgrade your cpu and gpu on the motherboard with amd. With an b650 motherboard (be sure its a am5 socket) and the 7800xt you will eat up 1440p gaming! Get yourself some 6000mhz cl30 ram and an nvme, gen3/4 ssd and you will elevate your gaming experience for a mid range price. This build would be between 1200-1500, without an screen ofc. PC Builder has multiple video’s about different build on his channel, definitely check them out if you don’t know where to start or your second guessing what to do!
I’m looking to build my first PC and 100% dont need or want break the bank on a top of line build especially considering 4K gaming seems pretty new still even on PC but the build you mentioned seems to be great for 1440p while also being the new CPU socket for future upgrading?
AMD always has problems and frame drops in multiplayer games. I play Squad with an antique PC, GTX970, 6600k and have a better FPS than a new 2500€ AMD PC, see forums. Always stay away from AMD, that was 20 years ago and nothing change. Marketing has you in its grasp😊
Love seeing the 7600X get recommended so regularly. I have it in my rig alongside a 7900XT and at 1440p it doesn’t matter what settings I use or game I play - the GPU is ALWAYS the bottleneck.
This is exactly what i was looking for. So many other build channels says that you "have to go 7800x3d with 7900xt for CPU heavy games, yada yada..." Waste of money it seems. Thats why this channel pulls ahead.
@@caliginousmoira8565 the 7900xt? Nothing makes it bad, I love the card and plan to use it for three years or more. I was saying that the 7600X is a great processor, as it keeps up with the 7900xt and doesn’t bottlenecked it in any games I play.
@@caliginousmoira8565 hey, man. I didn’t mean the card is bad at 1440p. I was referring to how powerful the 7600X is. That processor can keep up with the 7900XT in every game I play. It’s a compliment to the card, not a criticism. Enjoy your 7900XTX, I woulda got one but the XT is plenty for my needs.
Great video, I wish there was a video like this before I built my pc’s. Trying to figure out combos when new to the pc world is tough. There is a ton of information out there, but I didn’t understand a lot of it. Categorizing cpu/gpu combos in tiers like this is gonna help people significantly. I just built my second pc and using recommendations I learned from watching your videos, my performance increased significantly from my previous build.
Thanks a lot for these types of videos! I’m going to build my first pc in a few weeks, so I’m doing a LOT of research so I don’t mess up. These have helped me choose my cpu and gpu combo, and I’ve learnt tons of tricks from these videos
Only the second place I've ever heard to go with the ryzen 5 5500 for budget gaming....every other place says it's a epic pile. For $100 cad I have had zero problems with it. Nice to see a channel that actually gets what budget gaming actually is.
@@Amity024 I have had it since January and no complaints! All the games I’ve played I can play on maximum graphics and basically always with 100+ FPS. This is my full build: Pc specs * CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - CPU cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 * GPU: Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB DDR6 * RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL30-38-38-96 1.35V * Storage: - Crucial P5 plus 2tb m.2 - Seagate barracuda 1tb and 2tb * Motherboard: ASUS Rog Strix B650E-F gaming wifi * PSU: Corsair RM1000e (2023) * Cooling system: - case: NZXT H7 Flow with 5 Arctic P14 fans
for almost 2yrs since i started buying components now only gpu is the remaining i have asus tuf gaming motherboard b660, i5 12600k cpu and i prefer rx 6600 gpu.. i assembled it by myself now it working now
I was using Intel 4790k for years with EVGA 3080Ti Hybrid and gaming 4k with no problem lol.... then I finally decided to get Intel 13700k to pair and gained only 18 fps but it was a gain and it will set me up for the next GPU upgrade. So with 4k GPU is KING!
Good video sir. Sir, can u recommend good graphics card for my Intel i7 8700k with Asus Maximus 10 hero motherboard. I find hard to get graphics card for my processor. Is Intel i7 8700k is good for playing legend of legends in 1080 resolution with out graphics card ? Can i get Asus Phoenix Nvidia Geforce Gtx 1650 Oc Edition Gaming Graphics Card (Pcie 3.0, 4Gb Gddr6 Memory) for my intel i7 8700k processor. Sir, kindly give me ur opinion.
I will share just my experience and findings. Target: dota 2. Current build: Ryzen 2600 rx570, fps with lowest possible settings 80 + strutters. Upgrade, single part - 5700x3d. FPS uplifts more than 40% on target resolution. Next upgrade if necessary will be GPU as currently the monitor is the bottleneck. PS went for this part as it also solves any additional ram drawbacks that I might face - so savings on ram go towards this CPU
Just like with new smartphone releases, upgrading components like CPUs and GPUs should prompt a similar consideration. For example, if you own an iPhone 15 Pro Max, jumping to the iPhone 16 Pro Max might not make sense, as the changes are often minimal between generations. Similarly, with high-end hardware like the RTX 40 series, it’s wise to assess whether the incremental upgrades really offer significant improvements that justify the expense. For most people, holding off on upgrading every generation can lead to more meaningful enhancements and better value when they eventually decide to upgrade.
My current rig is a 3080ti with an Intel i7 8700k with 32gb 3200mhz ram. Im thinking of spending about $600 on upgrading to a ryzen 7800x3d with mobo+ram. Figure that makes the most sense for getting the best from my gpu and some future proofing.
When I build a PC, I always put in a better CPU than needed. For one thing, that extra power will show itself in non-gaming applications. It's also much simpler to upgrade a GPU down the road than replace a CPU. I also always have multiple PCs. If I wasn't leapfrogging my builds, I might be more sensitive about putting in more CPU than my GPU needs.
After owning several machines over the years and various OS's, I'm done with Apple and MS. My next build is Linux, so I'm looking for the best combo compatible with Linux. I'm told Linux doesn't like some video cards, and more compatible with AMD graphics and processors. If you've got any decent matches there, that may be my next build. Looking for near to top end, decent gaming specs, general use machine. Thanks.
Looks like I have some well balanced rigs then. Primary rig is R7 5700X3D, 64GB DDR4 3600 RAM and RX 7800 XT. Secondary rig is R5 5600X, 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM and RTX 4060. Third rig (which I'm about to sell) is an R5 5500GT, 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM and a GTX 1070. Whole reason I ended with AM4 started with me getting a nice AM4 motherboard, 5600x and DDR4 due to me ordering the wrong parts for one of our office PCs. needed to be mATX and CPU with APU. I ordered full ATX and a 5600x plus DDR4 RAM. So I got these parts for free. Then I started upgrading my stuff with new graphics cards, CPUs and so on. And ended up with the above mentioned. If I had started from scratch, knowing what I know now, I would probably have gone with AM5. At least for my primary PC. But my above mentioned 5700X3D setup will last me for many years. It will also have no problems driving RTX 4090 performance tiers with no noticeable bottleneck. Sure AM5 will beat my 5700X3D for productivity but I am not into productivity anyway. Just gaming, a bit of streaming sometimes and casual use like web browsing and youtube. AM4 is also a very mature platform which is just rock solid. Sure, AM5 is more future proof, but when the time comes where I need an upgrade again (probably years from now), better AM5 motherboards and CPUs are out and DDR5 are cheaper. Who knows, maybe AM6 is out by then.
When you're building a "gaming pc" you need to consider what games you're playing. You're right about most games, cuz they're GPU dependent. However, there are some games where it's the opposite. For example, if you're building a PC for Counter-Strike, CPU is way more important than GPU
Some games that are way easier to run like Counter Strike often fall into the trap of seeming like the CPU is more important. But actually its just all the more important to make sure your CPU isn't going to bottleneck the huge amount of frames coming from the GPU because its an easier to run game. You still need to make sure you have the proper GPU in the first place.
Best buyer's and upgrader's guide I've been able to find for 2024. Cuts straight through the bull of all the pointless 1080p CPU benching littering the scene.
I just upgraded to the 5700X3D from the 3700X to get 3 more years out of my RAM and motherboard. Also jumped from an RTX 3070 to the RTX 4070 Ti Super and it’s a HUGE improvement. I’ve not installed the new CPU yet, but the new GPU on the 3700X still runs Cyberpunk 2077 max settings full RT at 4k close on 100 FPS, its beautiful
You sir maby saved me some money and regrets in a long term, im just thinking of making a partial upgrade only using my old 1080TI and PSU of 750W, my old CPU is old 4-th gen i5 4690, till this very video i was thinking of going AM4 b550 mobo with 5700x3d, and i was somewhat aware its the last gen CPU for this socket, also i thought i really need to have 8+ cores to be good for gaming, and yes its does help, but its no the biggest change im gonna see compared to get myself a AM5 mobo and 7600x, pair it with my 1080Ti for some time and save enough to go for AMD 7800XT! And then after years i can go for newer CPU like the 6-th gen or 7-th gen AM5 and get better CPU and again swap cards for the next gen GPU! But if i did cheap out now on AM4 platform and use 5700x3d, yeah i would still go for a good GPU after, but after few years i would have to spend money for second MOBO and new CPU probably, plus a DDR5 RAM then, so second pair of RAM stick ( because i would have used DDR4 for AM4 build) and this just keeps the price go up by a lot! All that difference can go in the future for even better CPU and GPU!! Thank you, for explaining the way you did!
I only ever bought 1 complete pre-built. The rest of my 30y+ experience has been a story of "what can I afford to upgrade later". So now I am building a R7 7800X3D + AM5 B650 + 32GB 6000Mhz 32CL + (here is my bottleneck) RX6600. My next upgrade should be my 19yo PSU, so I can upgrade my GPU. And after that a new screen. Anyway. How many of you buy a completely new "everything" when they upgrade?
Thanks for this video! As a video game content creator, I am forced to be a video editor too, I am saving for an RTX-4090 & PSU as the most "bang for my buck". MOBO & CPU are about 1/4~1/2? the money & only gets me 30~40-ish% overall performance of the GPU upgrade at 145% performance increase (according the tools I've tried to analyze this). In my evaluation, I have enough CPU (R7-3700X) for my current GPU (RTX-3070) and if I upgrade to the 4090, I get to continue gaming & recording while the RTX-3070 "rolls down hill" into my "old" PC that becomes my video editing / rendering / uploading station.
1:28 This is so helpful. As someone who games exclusively on 1080p i knew my system was cpu bound but i didn't quite get what that meant till i saw this.
Fantastic. I have the Intel i5 13600KF and have been looking at a RTX 4080 to combo with it. Seems a solid match from what I have gleaned from this video.
I spend 390 on the 7800X3D 200 on a ddr5 ram kit 32gigs corsair dominator titanium cl32 6400mhz 310 on the kraken elite 360 rgb 140 on a viper elite 2tb ssd nvme 4 280 for the msi gaming plus wifi x670e motherboard 250 for 8 (plus two on reserve) lian li sl 120mm rgb fans 2250 for my msi suprim x RTX 4090 140 for the corsair RM850 PSU 150 for 2 lian li strimer cables, 12 pin and 24 pin 220 for the lian li dynamic evo xl case Plus 70 for a vertical mount bracket of cooler master lol Thats what u spend for a master piece
Really good video and got some ideas out of it. I originally intended to build a new system for the Nvidia 5000 launch, but after watching I might just upgrade my CPU. Right now I'm running an AMD 3800X with a RTX 3080 GPU at 4k. I think upgrading to 5700/5800X3D should be the best option paired with probably a RTX 5080 (depending on future test results). The CPU might still be a little bit on the lower end, but on 4k it shouldn't matter that much and it's much cheaper than building an AM5 system.
6 Months ago i upgradet my old PC(Ryzen 5 1600 + stock cooler, GTX 1060 6gb, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz) to an Ryzen 5 5600 + Pure Rock 2 cooler, RTX 3060 12GB and 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz for about 500 euro. Im using the PC for casual gaming at 1080p, multitasking and maybe a little bit off video editing. Let me hear what you think?
Im rening a amd 8320 8 core cpu witch is 12 years old and I just swaped my old nvidia Asus gforce gtx 960 strix 4 gb gpu to a amd radeon rx 7600 xt oc edition 16 gb and I have 16 gb ram ddr3 and a 750 watts evga gen 2 gold power supply Unit in my old rigg. I just got ouer first 4 k tv to play on. I am very satisfied qith my current rigg.
This was a great video! I want to comment something as a South American that I feel many reviewers, including people from Mexico or Spain not just US kind of "forget". Yes, BIGGUR NUMBA BUTTER. We all know and love that. But when you SIT DOWN to use that machine, you are rarely not going to notice that you have a 5600 or a 7600, specially if you're not tech savvy or an avid gamer - this is with the caveat that the difference isn't massive, otherwise it would be noticeable. Which has another caveat, it's only noticeable for people that CAN COMPARE. This is a personal opinion that I came about while researching stuff to create an affordable but good enough build for my gf, but so many reviewrs have SO MANY NUMBERS and tests and results in their mind, and they're also used to using mid to high end components that they kind of forget how "functional" a low end component could be. When I say low end I mean low but good, like the i3 12100, not low end and garbage like a GT1030. They also are usually in places where they have good enough prices or discounts, nearby stores like a microcenter with giant shelves full of diversity and availability and sometimes even good return policies. For context to give you an idea of how bad it is sometimes for us, including taxes and all the garbage on top, if we take the "blue dollar" which is a parallel dollar for us let's say 1 USD = 1000 ARS, if you go to pcpartpicker the 5600G is about 120 to 140 dollars. That'd be 140.000 pesos for us. If you do a quick search, depending on the store, that CPU costs 183 USD up to 210 here. Meaning we are paying about 60 dollars extra for that for no real reason. The i3 12100F, as low as we could see it is actually 134 USD. And of course this has nothing to do with us NOR reviewers of any kind, this is just country bullshit and politics. But the point where I'm trying to get is, if without knowing, you just sit down on the PC and have an i3 or a 5600G, both with a GPU (let's say a 3070 something that won't bottleneck either) at 1080p... I don't think anyone would sit there and say "oh wow, this feels like an i3, this is bad". The experience considering you'd have good enough cooling, an nvme drive perhaps... like the differences are mostly synthetic and on paper. Unless you're playing something demanding or truly CPU bound of course. My point is there's a lot of talk on min maxing your fps or the value per dollar you pay and if you CAN do that, that's great. But I feel a lot of times we (all of use pc lovers) get caught up in these discussions about chiplet vs monolithic design, 10nm vs 7nm, and 2 extra cores etc. when maybe the use case is just playing freaking vidya gaemz and it'll all be ok. That is why I like sometimes when reviewers themselves sit down with a "budget pc" and start saying how surprised they are for that performance. And it's like yeah man, a ton of people worldwide are on that or even lesser/older hardware and have no real issues. All that said, again, amazing video. Subbed!
Great guide. Would be nice to include total system power consumption in consideration because more power consumption can add up to significant difference in your electricity bills over next years to come. If you are on a budget for your gaming/working setup it is worth considering upkeep cost especially if you plan to use that PC a lot.
You have no idea or neither you will read this, but i very much appreciate this as i've no or little knowledge about the combos about pc building. Thank you so much!
i been using a RX 7900XT with a I5 6500 and 16GB @2400 i can barely get 60fps in games, I use to have a RX470 4GB in this system to play games at 1080P
Optiplex 9020 with a RX580 8GB. I had to get the 700BR PSU. Emergency build during covid when my trinity APU finally died. Actually, I believe it was the fm2 mobo that failed. Upgraded to the RX580 in like 2017 for $300 from an R7. The R7 was an upgrade so I could run/stream D3 years ago on the APU.
Just bought a new Ryzen 7 5700X for € 140 on amazon and a nearly new, but used MSI 4060 TI 8GB (Gaming X) for € 300 - so €440 for the combo which is an insane price to performance deal, also the most power efficient combo i could find. Highly recommended.
Lots of people asking for build ideas in the comments: Aorus b550 elite v2 £100 Ryzen 5 5600x £120 Gtx 1660 super £120 16gb DDR4 3200MHZ (Corsair) £50 1tb m.2 £70 650w power supply £70 Whatever case you want £30 4 fans £50 ish Will run basically everything at 60fps in 1080p on high/ultra settings for £600
My 2 cents after 15 years: What resolution, graphics settings and which games I want to play at? This is the very first question. Second: budget? You always buy the best GPU you can afford for the resolution you need, and upgrade your CPU later, if needed. Don't get less than 16GB RAM, and try to get your OS on an M.2 drive, if not, on a SATA3 SSD. This video would have been a lot more informative if you add the Resolution into the mix as well. 60fps 4K gaming the 5600+7900xtx is a perfectly fine combo. You get more FPS out of older games.
I’m blessed to have a IT guy who gets a discount on parts so he builds pcs for people at part normal cost and his discount is his profit he’s awesome and makes perfect setups
Love the enthusiasm, but the CPU is mainly an issue when you have a 4090 and are playing at low resolutions, like eSports. Most people (read: non-eSports players) who want to be able to play PC games at high resolutions with the graphics settings maxed out should put their money into the GPU and any modern CPU (Ryzen 5 Zen 3 and 4 AMD, 11th Gen or better i5) will be totally fine. Yes, it's really that simple. And try to get a minimum of 12GB, 16GB+ is ideal today. 12GB starts out at about $330 for a 6750XT, I think the 7800XT is the cheapest 16GB card.
MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI (DDR5) G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 6000MHz (Black) MSI RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X Black OC 8GB Adata XPG Gammix S70 Blade 1TB SSD M.2 NVMe Gen4 Corsair CV650 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze . This js the build im looking to go for, my main use case is for gaming streaming and editing, please tell me which CPU should I go with I5 13k or ryzen 5 7600/x
So Jason doesn't recommend that GPU. If you're going Nvidia at least get the 4060 Ti 16GB. The other option is the Intel A770 or go AMD. As for the CPU either option is good.
I just bought a Ryzen 9750x3d with an rtx 4070 card for $3.2k after all parts and taxes. Looking forward to trying it out. Not as much for gaming as for some video editing, and game making. My 980x processor from 2012 was getting a little long in the tooth (but still kicking it).
I was thinking of R7 5700x with RTX 4060 that could hold for itself for 4-5 years. I've been using 1600 and GTX 1060 6GB for 5 years now since 2019, so I guess every 5 years you need to refit your hardwares.
I would definitely rethink the 4060, especially if you want a build that will stay relevant. The lack of VRAM is a real problem and it’s terrible price to performance anyway. And yes I’d do 5600 personally. The 5800X won’t give your enough of a boost over it to warrant the price. See our Best Builds October video we have a fantastic 5600 build guide there
want to build a new pc and have 2 choices made. Which is the better choice? I am not the gamer I once was but I still want to play a new game. 1e. Asus ROG STRIX Z790, Intel Core i7-14700K, ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER OC,16GB GDDR6. OR 2e. ASUS ROG Strix Z890-A, Intel Core Ultra 7 265K - 3.9 GHz - 20 Kerne - 20 Threads, ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER OC,16GB GDDR6. So far i can see is the I7-14700K faster end in a combo Cheaper than the Ultra 7 The Ultra 7 is newer for that and will probably last a year longer. What is wise in this case?
For gaming I strongly urge you to go 7600X. See our 7600X build guide for more.The intel CPUs are a disaster right now. But if you really want Intel the 14700K is the choice (with the warning about the degradation issues).
I would highly recommend deal hunting for used parts, just built a pc for under $400 with a 1660ti and R5 4500 that slays most 1080p games I throw at it
i have a 7600x and a 4070 super. i play at 1440p and all my games run 120fps or higher. from destiny 2 to cyberpunk all at max settings. ark survival ascended is the only game i get between 90 to 100fps. it cost me $1,300 to build my pc.
intel always had a much bigger market share and software designers will test on the cpu people use the most.. AMD has caught up recently but there's still a lot of software history.. if AMD can get a 75% market share like intel had for 2 years then i would switch.. but if it's 50/50 then i'll stick with intel... the latest news about stability issues on the 13 and 14 gen intel i9 cpus is a concern.. but i never bought an i9 anyways.. i'm still using my i5 8600k from around 2018... it runs so cool it's crazy.. it drops to 800mhz on all 6 cores.. and just stays at 35c to 38c.. hwinfo shows my max temp is 51c to 52c lol.. it's insane.. my cpu before this one was hitting 90c!! ... i have upgraded from a gtx1060 to a rtx3060.. it's not much different but i haven't played much since upgrading.. but the 1060 played so many 3D games perfectly fine for me.. i only upgrade because the fans on 1060 totally died after many cleanings my cpu benchmark score is around just over 10k.. and a new i9 gen 14 non K scores about 50k .. i7 is 44k and i5 is 32k... so about 5x 4x and 3x.. but my 8600k cpu just rocks.. it's blazing fast.. and i haven't even overclocked it yet.. it's just 6 cores of raw power.. i've compared it to so many mobile devices and it's always ahead.. it's just starting to be matched with snapdragon gen 2.. point is that a 10k score is still really good.. so if you get a 4x or 5x then omg.. are you building a space shuttle? .. i think a 14500 i5 at 3x the benchmark would be overkill for many people.. i'm guessing but i think an i5 pairs good with a 4060 or 4070.. an i7 with 4070 or 4080 and i9 with 4090 it's so tempting to upgrade my 8600k to a 14500 or 14700.. and get 3x to 4x the speed for a small price.. i could sell my old system and get half the new system cost.. keep my gpu.. upgrade it to a rtx6060 in a few years.. I think a big factor is cost.. the 1060 and 3060 and now 4060 are just reasonable priced and all you really need unless playing cyberpunk or something i'm guessing.. but so many games play fine at max settings.. and many play great with a few settings turned down... i payed bout $350cnd for 1060.. $500cnd for 3060.. paying 2x for 4070 or 3x for 4080 or 4x for 4090 just doesn't make sense.. $2000 for a 4090.. like as if.. for what .. 60 fps higher than my 60 hertz display can display? .. i use a 55" 4k tv as a monitor .. it's sick.. i don't need 120 fps.. i used to play games at 30fps and was happy it wasn't 15fps.. anyways.. of course if you're rich do whatever.. but if you're wondering what you really need for a decent experience don't worry about getting the top 14900k and 4090rtx imo.. not that i've ever tried it.. but i'm happy with what i got for the games i play.. just saying
i put together a B760m PG asrock motherboard (pci-e 5.0) with an intel i5 13400F cpu, 32GB of ddr5 ram at 6400Mhz, and a nvidia RTX4060ti (16GB VRAM) pretty much max budget for me. i think its pertty good for 2024 and it runs cool with a digital aircooler and in 1440p it runs really well, and even does alright at 4k but i generally stick to 1440p. but wehat do you think? those components are good enough for a 2024 mid tier gaming pc? i think i have room for future upgrades, go to an i9 cpu when they become affordable and even a better gpu when they come down in price
If you've got Microcenter access you can bundle a Ryzen 7 7800x3D with a MB + RAM for only $196 for the CPU. Got a Ryzen 7 7800x3D + B650 MB + 32GB DDR5 for $480. Got my 4070 Super for $540 brand new (but I had a $60 off coupon so doesn't really count)
is A620-E AM5 chipset Mobo + Ryzen 8600G cpu good combo for decent gaming performance or do i need to get a B650 Motherboard ? will there be any performance difference with gaming ? I'm not into Overclocking. Suggestions please A620 + 8600G ryzen Or B650 + 8600G ryzen ?
I do not at all recommend that CPU for gaming. Its absolutely terrible price to performance. You'd be much better off dropping to AM4 and getting a proper last gen CPU and budget GPU. See our Best Budget Builds 2024 for some much better options
at first, cpu in 4k makes not so big differences and than for the 7800X3d use a budget Board. Why using a Z690/790 Board for the 13700k? All you want, you can do with an B660/ B760 Board and than you can save around 40-60 Buckets. The same with the cooling. The cheaper cooler can handle the 13700k for games, with no problems. I think, more important is that with an 13700k you should disable HT and maybe half of the E Cores. You get an higher performance with way more effiiency.
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Just paired my ryzen 7 7800x3d with a RX 7900XTX Red Devil. And put it on a highish end motherboard that Jason loves😇 Put it all in Jasons favorite case. The lian Li O11D Evo🤣 Altho i did NOT use Lian LI fans and cooler. I went for Arctic LF II 360 and Arctic P12 fans.
The i7-12700k is close to 200 bucks now.
@@thehimself4056 Over here it's still around 370usd.
@@preciseIy M2 or nvme as a system, and another 3,5 ssd for games, and you're set.
That’s crappy. I got lucky because in Newegg it dropped to 229. Plus I had 40 bucks in egg points. lol. I almost went with the i9-12900k. But for the extra 100 bucks. I don’t see me using that extra money the right way. I would offer to buy and ship one to you. But the last time I did that. The shipping ended the savings. lol. We tried.
Me watching this video with Zero Budget
Same here 😢
You’re not the only one, but im here to educate myself for when im ready
@@marks.9387 same
I hope we can all be ready very soon
We can dream can’t we
Haven't built a PC in about 15 years. Kids and life got in the way. Decided to jump in at the Mid level and this helped me decide on the Ryzen 5 5600X and the Radeon 6700XT with 32gb DDR4 ram. Lets just hope I still know how to build one. I'll keep using these videos for reference.
I personally would recommend going for DDR5 as it is the faster and more future-safe, but it does cost a little extra.
I literally have the same setup as you. It was well worth the upgrade from a R5 2600 and RX 580 8GB
@@ploob.2207 bro, DDR is almost a 30 year old tech and DDR5 isn't worth the significant cost increase for the slight increase in performance over DDR4. Also, you just cant "upgrade" from DDR4 to DDR5--you have to rebuild your whole system. The pinouts aren't even the same between DDR4 and DDR5.
Basically double your build price (at least double) to use DDR5 over DDR4 and your speed improvement is going to be maybe 10%.
@@TurboLoveTrain yes but if you were to make your first pc it's better to start of with DDR5, that way you don't have to upgrade later on.
@@keldrini7939
Tell me why. At no point did you address any of the reasons I listed for choosing DDR4 over DDR5 and I'm pretty sure you don't even know the difference between DDR4 and DDR5--especially in the context of speed benchmarks.
I think my comprehension bottlenecked watching this video.
It can be a lot I know! If you are just getting into PC building check out our "PC Parts Explained 2024" video. That's a good overview to get you started
@@PCBuilderChannel hey please help finding a good cpu for rx 7900 xt for a good fair price
@@Eweh 7600
@@spookytv4044 i already bought 7800x3d
@@Eweh you ever heard of Google
Ahhh yes the midrange 4090
😂
he literally talks about the 4090 at 15:54 for high end builds as the max gpu possible ?
@@Reixav221is a I9 14700 to much for a 4080 super to get the most frames possible
😂 😂
Dont use the 13 14 gen intel procesors i heard that they are having problems and nit working good or crashing check on google@@User-28737
PLEASE KEEP DOING THESE! I love this format with recommendations and capable parts! It makes things way less confusing for me and narrows down my options way more.
You want your GPU to be the bottleneck. Here's why:
If you plan on keeping the system a good few years, ultimately, you're going to upgrade the system at some point. It is *far* easier to upgrade your GPU than your CPU - which could well require an entirely new motherboard. I.e. Basically a new system.
Get the CPU/motherboard which gives you the most headroom for future upgrades, and go for a solid midrange graphics card with good performance/value ratio.
In 3 or 5 years you can replace your mid range card with another high-mid card, and I bet your high end CPU will still keep up with it.
Also, if your CPU/motherboard is strong, you always have the options of adding more RAM etc etc...
If you go the other way and max out the GPU against and cut corners on the CPU, you may have a slightly better system for *today* but you've limited your future expansion much more.
A bit late but let’s say how good would a ryzen 7 7700x, 64 gbs of ram on a 670 am5 motherboard, backed by a 3060 be?
Good, time to Upgrade the gpu tholol
@@jarlwilliam9932 For gaming, get a 7800x3d, 32 gb of ram on an x670. Check how many sata ports they have tho, many of the x670 boards only have 2 or 4 sata and just incase you need to use more, you'd need a motherboard with more.
Basically what you're saying is get an AM5 socket :)
There's a consumer-specific set of value propositions to consider. Better performance now and over the lifetime of the current build is real value. Not everyone will keep most of their system when they upgrade again regardless of how much they try to plan ahead and leave 'room' for a 1-2 component migration. The timing/chance comes into play. And it's not the worst thing in the world to have a second system left on hand (or nearly one) after you upgrade. You can use it for different purposes or gaming in another room, gift to another, sell, etc. And the point in time where you will have the most breathing room for CPU upgrades will be the beginning of a new platform which exposes you to the most potential early-adopter issues.
only the lord can save me i've been using a 1080ti and a 3930k for years 😭✋
Sending good vibes!
@@PCBuilderChannel thank uuu
Tell us ur cost to build it that year?? New build right?? Envy us
Hey I just built last year but my previous build was a 1070 😂 it’s now my golf sim pc until I build one for that
Haha I've got it even worse, been using a fx8310 and 1050ti for probably 10 years, I built it in high school
Ive been researching this stuff like CRAZY, and never made the connection that framerate was mostly tied to CPU, while Resolution was tied to GPU.
Glad we could help!
I got a Ryzen 5 3600 and a GTX 1660 for $100 from one of my neighbors. Absolute bang for buck.
Insanely good pairing. I bought my gf a system with an i5-10400f and a 1660ti with 32gb RAM and an NVME drive for 600 Canadian and honestly, compared to my PC which cost me 3500 CAD to build a few years ago, I don't think I'm ever spending big money on PCs ever again.
The classic 3600 and 1660 super is the only pairing I could afford when we had to replace a PC during the dreaded shortage a few years ago. It's still going alright. :) It certainly cost more than $100 at the time lol
@@DissoGG i am impressed with the lower end PCs lately but still going to save up to build a custom loop "no limit" monster just for the fun and the thrill
@@DissoGG what would you spend $2000 American on or $1600? I’m trying to build my first PC.
@@josephobuck5409high end gpu’s can cost upwards of $1000, high end CPU’s can cost upwards of $500 or more. High end motherboards can cost upwards of $300 or more. A psu that can handle that hardware may cost $200 or more. High speed ram can cost $150-200. This isn’t including the pc case, fans, water cooling/cpu cooler, accessories such as custom cables and not to mention peripherals such as keyboard and mouse, monitor and such.
Keep in mind the prices I listed are in USD so I imagine CAD will be even more so it can get really pricy.
Don’t let this discourage you though, like the people in this reply thread said, you can get good performance with budget hardware nowadays as games aren’t really getting more demanding nowadays on the low end. I personally am running a 3600 and 1660ti for 1080p gaming on my college pc and it’s served me quite well. I do though want to upgrade to 1440p gaming and want to play some more demanding games at higher graphics settings so I will be upgrading to the rtx 5070 when it becomes available as well as maybe the newest Gen Ryzen 5.
Had already picked up the 7800x3d in black Friday deals for £330 but instead of pairing with a 7900xt for £730 bagged a 7800xt Hell hound for £419. Couldn't justify the extra fps for over £300. Will use in my new build and wait to see what 4k cards next gen will bring 😊 Thanks for all your help Jason on my first build 👌
Best wishes on the build and glad we could help!
I'm planning the same build. 7800X3D with a 7800XT
i did the same build with the same idea of waiting a gen or two for better 4k value. 4k value is wack right now
the 300 saved now will be much more worth in 3-4years if you upgrade your gpu, the 7800x3d will still be really neat, but swapping out the gpu is much better
@@dinkin_flicka14 Me too. Building mine tomorrow, last of the parts arrived yesterday. I wanted the 7900xt but the prices for some reason don't tend to scale just according to the currency conversion here in Canada. The 7900xt is around $1100 Canadian or more depending which version, that's more than I was willing to spend on it so I went 7800xt. I'm doing 1440p anyway so I think it'll be fine for a while.
Your enthusiasm and these videos gave me the final push to build a PC last December. Thank you for the help!
Same just ordered my first build and everything comes on Tuesday I’ve been thinking about abt building for so long
Congrats on cheap storage at the time.
@@aether8412 Good luck and take your time. Btw it isn't as scary or difficult as you might think. Have fun :)
@@bartterp88 thank u, u guys are so nice. I’ve researched a lot and the thing I’m most scared abt is installing the cpu into the motherboard. I’ve heard it’s really sensitive and easy to break. Let’s hope it goes well for me 😅
@@bartterp88 I DID IT 😁😁
My wallet is running low but my mind is expanding. One day ill be able to afford a godzilla build.
The Ryzen 7600/7600X to me is the absolute sweetest of spots when it comes to affordability, future proofing and performance
Yea, this is the sweet spot now. The CPU is fast enough for the 500-600 dollar cards and has a clear upgrade path...
mega expensive though
Brilliant video. I'm on my third or fourth PC build at this point, and the biggest problem whenever I return to the job (we're talking at least 6-7 years between builds) is trying to figure out what combinations make sense. It's pretty hard to find good resources on the topic. So thank you for making this video, and making the info so clear and easy to parse!
So glad we can help!
@@PCBuilderChannelwhat CPU should I pair with 1080ti as now we have so many options
@@Nero_9000 13400f gives you plenty of headroom and be cost effective if going with a ddr4 mobo. A ryzen 5600 would be more than sufficient as well and quite a bit cheaper.
Biggest challenge may be selecting memory with timings that are beneficial to performance. If you're into gaming, follow YT wisdom and your discretion. For me it's hi-res images and a 1080ti works great, but its 11GB video RAM become limiting. For me and upgrade to, say, a RTX 4070ti Super (basically a slightly limited 4080) means 16GB but the ray tracing power will not help Lightroom (Camera Raw) and Photoshop. 32GB RAM is frequently exceeded so my workstation has 64GB (Windows - Linux and MacOS may need half of that or less).
As to video RAM, part of image processing is done in the GPU and the OS wants to keep lots of pixels in the GPU RAM. GPU as coprocessor for LrC started a couple years ago and LrC was the only "user". Today even Windows uses it, e.g. to cache icons and previews of folder hierarchies. SW tools to "manage" that are limited.
I love your thoughtfulness about PC gaming. You explain it so it's easy to understand. PC builders NEED to watch your videos before they buy anything. Killer video as always 🔥
Just bought a 7600 and 7800 XT for 1440P gaming (not planning on any RT) with 16Gb ram as a mid range gaming build. Great value!
I love how this video was recommended today after I finally retired my dual gt660s in SLI and picked up a used rtx 2060 with my i7-3770K
I got my 7800x3d + RTX 4070 Ti super build over the past month, but still watching these videos. To confirm if I made the right choice.
Nice build you got there!
I'm planning 7800X3D with RX 7800XT, is it good enough?
@@dinkin_flicka14yes that's fine
@@dinkin_flicka14 This is what I just got. For my purposes, it is working great. It is for gaming, but I tend to play games that are more CPU and memory intensive, so to me, it made sense to shift the balance in favor of a higher end CPU and more RAM (64Gb). If you are running at higher resolution and primarily playing graphics intensive action games that need all the FPS you can get, I can see his recommendation for a higher end graphics card making sense with this processor.
@@dinkin_flicka14 It is. But you probably don't see 7800x3d with 7800XT. Maybe 7600 or 7700. Unless you really want the 7800x3d and money aren't super tight.
I especially like your cpu/gpu combo videos for the information about minimum and maximum pairings. Years ago I built a PC with a 3600 and 5700xt for 1080p 144hz, which was later upgraded to a 6800 and 1440p 170hz, and more recently a 5800x3d, with an eye to eventually pair it with something at your recommended max performance. (8800xt later this year?) Being able to alternate between cpu and gpu upgrades without the system ever feeling unbalanced has been great.
If you are still producing this content whenever AM6 comes out, I'll be counting on you to help me repeat the process for my next build cycle. 👍
still using that 6800 gpu? Just finished my rig last week and that thing is a beast even paired with a ryzen 5 5600. Never has a $900 build performed so damn good.
Sir i am a poor student,i live in bangladesh,at present i want a computer but i have no ability, so if you give me a cpu then i will be forever grateful
my build:
Asrock A520m/ac
AMD Ryzen 5600GT (3.6ghz-4.6ghz)
Patriot Viper 2TB nvme ssd
Adata XPG D50 3200mhz/CL16 32gb ram kit
ID cooling IS50x v3
Zotac RTX4060 solo 8gb sff
enhance en09 flex400 80+ gold
Geeek a31 mini itx case
xigmatek exhaust fans
If you haven't already got the parts go B450 or B550 on the Motherboard and go 5500 or 5600 on the CPU.
So far I am super happy with my Intel i5 13600k pared with 32gb of 6400mhz ram and a 4070 ti. Does 1440p over 100 fps with everything I throw at it. I did overclock the GPU and CPU but is only about 400mhz on both components.
Is 6400 better than 5800?
@@An_Enraged_Pigyou’re locked to 5600 with the i5 if I’m not mistaken so it doesn’t matter
If you have money for a midrange gaming pc (1200-1500) definitely go for the amd 5 7600(x), over the i5. Single core (amd) is mostly better for gaming, cheaper and has ddr5. Next to that you can upgrade your cpu and gpu on the motherboard with amd. With an b650 motherboard (be sure its a am5 socket) and the 7800xt you will eat up 1440p gaming! Get yourself some 6000mhz cl30 ram and an nvme, gen3/4 ssd and you will elevate your gaming experience for a mid range price. This build would be between 1200-1500, without an screen ofc. PC Builder has multiple video’s about different build on his channel, definitely check them out if you don’t know where to start or your second guessing what to do!
I’m looking to build my first PC and 100% dont need or want break the bank on a top of line build especially considering 4K gaming seems pretty new still even on PC but the build you mentioned seems to be great for 1440p while also being the new CPU socket for future upgrading?
AMD always has problems and frame drops in multiplayer games. I play Squad with an antique PC, GTX970, 6600k and have a better FPS than a new 2500€ AMD PC, see forums. Always stay away from AMD, that was 20 years ago and nothing change. Marketing has you in its grasp😊
Yea Sure buddy.. XD
Love seeing the 7600X get recommended so regularly. I have it in my rig alongside a 7900XT and at 1440p it doesn’t matter what settings I use or game I play - the GPU is ALWAYS the bottleneck.
This is exactly what i was looking for.
So many other build channels says that you "have to go 7800x3d with 7900xt for CPU heavy games, yada yada..."
Waste of money it seems.
Thats why this channel pulls ahead.
how .... what am i missing? what makes it so bad at 1440? i just got a 7900xtx for 800 and i'm not having any problems.
@@caliginousmoira8565 the 7900xt? Nothing makes it bad, I love the card and plan to use it for three years or more.
I was saying that the 7600X is a great processor, as it keeps up with the 7900xt and doesn’t bottlenecked it in any games I play.
@@caliginousmoira8565 hey, man. I didn’t mean the card is bad at 1440p. I was referring to how powerful the 7600X is. That processor can keep up with the 7900XT in every game I play. It’s a compliment to the card, not a criticism.
Enjoy your 7900XTX, I woulda got one but the XT is plenty for my needs.
Yeah I'd go for a better CPU lmao
I just upgraded my AMD Ryzen 7 5800X system with an AMD 7600 XT GC from an AMD 5700 XT and so far so good!
Building my first pc in a few months, your channel has been so informative, helpful and pleasant.
did you build it
Great video, I wish there was a video like this before I built my pc’s. Trying to figure out combos when new to the pc world is tough. There is a ton of information out there, but I didn’t understand a lot of it. Categorizing cpu/gpu combos in tiers like this is gonna help people significantly. I just built my second pc and using recommendations I learned from watching your videos, my performance increased significantly from my previous build.
Glad this is helpful! Thanks for the feedback
Thanks a lot for these types of videos! I’m going to build my first pc in a few weeks, so I’m doing a LOT of research so I don’t mess up. These have helped me choose my cpu and gpu combo, and I’ve learnt tons of tricks from these videos
hey what combo did you choose
Only the second place I've ever heard to go with the ryzen 5 5500 for budget gaming....every other place says it's a epic pile. For $100 cad I have had zero problems with it.
Nice to see a channel that actually gets what budget gaming actually is.
Its a great budget CPU for sure!
It only supports PCIE 3.0, which is enough to get it a hard pass from me.
I can't wait to build the pc your videos helped me build...it's a nice 5800x3d 7900xt going in a tower 300
still good to know I picked the right combo a few months back, with a lot of your help :) -7800x3d and 7900XTX
That's an epic pc you got there!
i am also thinking for the same , could you plz share your experience with the build
@@Amity024 I have had it since January and no complaints! All the games I’ve played I can play on maximum graphics and basically always with 100+ FPS.
This is my full build:
Pc specs
* CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
- CPU cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120
* GPU: Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB DDR6
* RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s CL30-38-38-96 1.35V
* Storage:
- Crucial P5 plus 2tb m.2
- Seagate barracuda 1tb and 2tb
* Motherboard: ASUS Rog Strix B650E-F gaming wifi
* PSU: Corsair RM1000e (2023)
* Cooling system:
- case: NZXT H7 Flow with 5 Arctic P14 fans
@@Casperdcvd Thanks for this , I bet it feels amazing to have a nice build! Hoping to get mine sooner.
@@Amity024 very, good luck with your build!
Always love this!! Great info!!
Thank you! So glad its helpful (:
I have been rocking a i7 8700k, RTX 2080 and 32GB Ram..
since 2015 ! I have a 1440p monitor and it’s all running great.
I do want a rtx 4090 lol
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Thank you so much lmao what a waste of time
Always very helpful. Thank you as always. Much appreciated.
So glad its helpful! Thank you for watching
I have a negative budget.
Maybe one day Nvidia or AMD will release positivebudgetx 😢
for almost 2yrs since i started buying components now only gpu is the remaining i have asus tuf gaming motherboard b660, i5 12600k cpu and i prefer rx 6600 gpu.. i assembled it by myself now it working now
Underclock the video to 0,75 speed. You welcome!
Including am4 upgrades was a good move
They are great options for a lot of builders!
I was using Intel 4790k for years with EVGA 3080Ti Hybrid and gaming 4k with no problem lol.... then I finally decided to get Intel 13700k to pair and gained only 18 fps but it was a gain and it will set me up for the next GPU upgrade. So with 4k GPU is KING!
Good video sir.
Sir, can u recommend good graphics card for my Intel i7 8700k with Asus Maximus 10 hero motherboard.
I find hard to get graphics card for my processor.
Is Intel i7 8700k is good for playing legend of legends in 1080 resolution with out graphics card ?
Can i get Asus Phoenix Nvidia Geforce Gtx 1650 Oc Edition Gaming Graphics Card (Pcie 3.0, 4Gb Gddr6 Memory) for my intel i7 8700k processor.
Sir, kindly give me ur opinion.
I will share just my experience and findings. Target: dota 2. Current build: Ryzen 2600 rx570, fps with lowest possible settings 80 + strutters. Upgrade, single part - 5700x3d. FPS uplifts more than 40% on target resolution. Next upgrade if necessary will be GPU as currently the monitor is the bottleneck.
PS went for this part as it also solves any additional ram drawbacks that I might face - so savings on ram go towards this CPU
Just like with new smartphone releases, upgrading components like CPUs and GPUs should prompt a similar consideration. For example, if you own an iPhone 15 Pro Max, jumping to the iPhone 16 Pro Max might not make sense, as the changes are often minimal between generations. Similarly, with high-end hardware like the RTX 40 series, it’s wise to assess whether the incremental upgrades really offer significant improvements that justify the expense. For most people, holding off on upgrading every generation can lead to more meaningful enhancements and better value when they eventually decide to upgrade.
I have a 5500 cpu and a rx 6600, I had a budget at the time. it’s funny how the very first example is the perfect upgrade for my PC 😂👍🏼
My current rig is a 3080ti with an Intel i7 8700k with 32gb 3200mhz ram.
Im thinking of spending about $600 on upgrading to a ryzen 7800x3d with mobo+ram. Figure that makes the most sense for getting the best from my gpu and some future proofing.
When I build a PC, I always put in a better CPU than needed. For one thing, that extra power will show itself in non-gaming applications. It's also much simpler to upgrade a GPU down the road than replace a CPU. I also always have multiple PCs. If I wasn't leapfrogging my builds, I might be more sensitive about putting in more CPU than my GPU needs.
After owning several machines over the years and various OS's, I'm done with Apple and MS. My next build is Linux, so I'm looking for the best combo compatible with Linux. I'm told Linux doesn't like some video cards, and more compatible with AMD graphics and processors. If you've got any decent matches there, that may be my next build. Looking for near to top end, decent gaming specs, general use machine. Thanks.
Building my pc rn with the ryzen 7 7800 x3d and the 4070 ti super so glad it s a great combo thank you
Best wishes on the build! Check out our 7800X3D Build guide for more if that's helpful
Looks like I have some well balanced rigs then. Primary rig is R7 5700X3D, 64GB DDR4 3600 RAM and RX 7800 XT. Secondary rig is R5 5600X, 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM and RTX 4060. Third rig (which I'm about to sell) is an R5 5500GT, 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM and a GTX 1070. Whole reason I ended with AM4 started with me getting a nice AM4 motherboard, 5600x and DDR4 due to me ordering the wrong parts for one of our office PCs. needed to be mATX and CPU with APU. I ordered full ATX and a 5600x plus DDR4 RAM. So I got these parts for free. Then I started upgrading my stuff with new graphics cards, CPUs and so on. And ended up with the above mentioned. If I had started from scratch, knowing what I know now, I would probably have gone with AM5. At least for my primary PC. But my above mentioned 5700X3D setup will last me for many years. It will also have no problems driving RTX 4090 performance tiers with no noticeable bottleneck. Sure AM5 will beat my 5700X3D for productivity but I am not into productivity anyway. Just gaming, a bit of streaming sometimes and casual use like web browsing and youtube. AM4 is also a very mature platform which is just rock solid. Sure, AM5 is more future proof, but when the time comes where I need an upgrade again (probably years from now), better AM5 motherboards and CPUs are out and DDR5 are cheaper. Who knows, maybe AM6 is out by then.
I just upgraded from a first-gen I7 with 24GB RAM! DDR3 3GHz
and now it's another story with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D with 64GB RAM with an RTX3070Ti!
When you're building a "gaming pc" you need to consider what games you're playing. You're right about most games, cuz they're GPU dependent. However, there are some games where it's the opposite. For example, if you're building a PC for Counter-Strike, CPU is way more important than GPU
Some games that are way easier to run like Counter Strike often fall into the trap of seeming like the CPU is more important. But actually its just all the more important to make sure your CPU isn't going to bottleneck the huge amount of frames coming from the GPU because its an easier to run game. You still need to make sure you have the proper GPU in the first place.
Best buyer's and upgrader's guide I've been able to find for 2024. Cuts straight through the bull of all the pointless 1080p CPU benching littering the scene.
So glad its helpful! Thanks for watching
I just upgraded to the 5700X3D from the 3700X to get 3 more years out of my RAM and motherboard. Also jumped from an RTX 3070 to the RTX 4070 Ti Super and it’s a HUGE improvement. I’ve not installed the new CPU yet, but the new GPU on the 3700X still runs Cyberpunk 2077 max settings full RT at 4k close on 100 FPS, its beautiful
Nice!
This is the most helpful PC build video I've seen. Thank you for making it easy to pair CPU and GPU!
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching
You sir maby saved me some money and regrets in a long term, im just thinking of making a partial upgrade only using my old 1080TI and PSU of 750W, my old CPU is old 4-th gen i5 4690, till this very video i was thinking of going AM4 b550 mobo with 5700x3d, and i was somewhat aware its the last gen CPU for this socket, also i thought i really need to have 8+ cores to be good for gaming, and yes its does help, but its no the biggest change im gonna see compared to get myself a AM5 mobo and 7600x, pair it with my 1080Ti for some time and save enough to go for AMD 7800XT! And then after years i can go for newer CPU like the 6-th gen or 7-th gen AM5 and get better CPU and again swap cards for the next gen GPU! But if i did cheap out now on AM4 platform and use 5700x3d, yeah i would still go for a good GPU after, but after few years i would have to spend money for second MOBO and new CPU probably, plus a DDR5 RAM then, so second pair of RAM stick ( because i would have used DDR4 for AM4 build) and this just keeps the price go up by a lot! All that difference can go in the future for even better CPU and GPU!! Thank you, for explaining the way you did!
I only ever bought 1 complete pre-built. The rest of my 30y+ experience has been a story of "what can I afford to upgrade later".
So now I am building a R7 7800X3D + AM5 B650 + 32GB 6000Mhz 32CL + (here is my bottleneck) RX6600.
My next upgrade should be my 19yo PSU, so I can upgrade my GPU. And after that a new screen.
Anyway. How many of you buy a completely new "everything" when they upgrade?
Thanks for this video! As a video game content creator, I am forced to be a video editor too, I am saving for an RTX-4090 & PSU as the most "bang for my buck". MOBO & CPU are about 1/4~1/2? the money & only gets me 30~40-ish% overall performance of the GPU upgrade at 145% performance increase (according the tools I've tried to analyze this). In my evaluation, I have enough CPU (R7-3700X) for my current GPU (RTX-3070) and if I upgrade to the 4090, I get to continue gaming & recording while the RTX-3070 "rolls down hill" into my "old" PC that becomes my video editing / rendering / uploading station.
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This is so helpful.
As someone who games exclusively on 1080p i knew my system was cpu bound but i didn't quite get what that meant till i saw this.
The elementary start is helpful. Start simple with the basics, smart, ty! Saves time on the research for us
So glad it was helpful!
Fantastic. I have the Intel i5 13600KF and have been looking at a RTX 4080 to combo with it. Seems a solid match from what I have gleaned from this video.
I spend
390 on the 7800X3D
200 on a ddr5 ram kit 32gigs corsair dominator titanium cl32 6400mhz
310 on the kraken elite 360 rgb
140 on a viper elite 2tb ssd nvme 4
280 for the msi gaming plus wifi x670e motherboard
250 for 8 (plus two on reserve) lian li sl 120mm rgb fans
2250 for my msi suprim x RTX 4090
140 for the corsair RM850 PSU
150 for 2 lian li strimer cables, 12 pin and 24 pin
220 for the lian li dynamic evo xl case
Plus 70 for a vertical mount bracket of cooler master lol
Thats what u spend for a master piece
12400F and 6600 is the best budget for me, since i need a lot of multitask performance and stable gaming experience
Should I go i5-14400 with RTX 4070 or i5-14600k with RTX 4060?
14400 with a 4070 though if the 14500 isn't much more than the 14400 where you are get that instead.
Really good video and got some ideas out of it. I originally intended to build a new system for the Nvidia 5000 launch, but after watching I might just upgrade my CPU.
Right now I'm running an AMD 3800X with a RTX 3080 GPU at 4k. I think upgrading to 5700/5800X3D should be the best option paired with probably a RTX 5080 (depending on future test results).
The CPU might still be a little bit on the lower end, but on 4k it shouldn't matter that much and it's much cheaper than building an AM5 system.
I would go 5700X3D when you're able to and then upgrade the GPU later.
6 Months ago i upgradet my old PC(Ryzen 5 1600 + stock cooler, GTX 1060 6gb, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz) to an Ryzen 5 5600 + Pure Rock 2 cooler, RTX 3060 12GB and 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz for about 500 euro. Im using the PC for casual gaming at 1080p, multitasking and maybe a little bit off video editing. Let me hear what you think?
Im rening a amd 8320 8 core cpu witch is 12 years old and I just swaped my old nvidia Asus gforce gtx 960 strix 4 gb gpu to a amd radeon rx 7600 xt oc edition 16 gb and I have 16 gb ram ddr3 and a 750 watts evga gen 2 gold power supply Unit in my old rigg. I just got ouer first 4 k tv to play on. I am very satisfied qith my current rigg.
Can you suggest a build for call pf duty/warzone ? I have a 2k budget
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This was a great video! I want to comment something as a South American that I feel many reviewers, including people from Mexico or Spain not just US kind of "forget".
Yes, BIGGUR NUMBA BUTTER. We all know and love that. But when you SIT DOWN to use that machine, you are rarely not going to notice that you have a 5600 or a 7600, specially if you're not tech savvy or an avid gamer - this is with the caveat that the difference isn't massive, otherwise it would be noticeable. Which has another caveat, it's only noticeable for people that CAN COMPARE.
This is a personal opinion that I came about while researching stuff to create an affordable but good enough build for my gf, but so many reviewrs have SO MANY NUMBERS and tests and results in their mind, and they're also used to using mid to high end components that they kind of forget how "functional" a low end component could be. When I say low end I mean low but good, like the i3 12100, not low end and garbage like a GT1030. They also are usually in places where they have good enough prices or discounts, nearby stores like a microcenter with giant shelves full of diversity and availability and sometimes even good return policies.
For context to give you an idea of how bad it is sometimes for us, including taxes and all the garbage on top, if we take the "blue dollar" which is a parallel dollar for us let's say 1 USD = 1000 ARS, if you go to pcpartpicker the 5600G is about 120 to 140 dollars. That'd be 140.000 pesos for us. If you do a quick search, depending on the store, that CPU costs 183 USD up to 210 here. Meaning we are paying about 60 dollars extra for that for no real reason. The i3 12100F, as low as we could see it is actually 134 USD.
And of course this has nothing to do with us NOR reviewers of any kind, this is just country bullshit and politics. But the point where I'm trying to get is, if without knowing, you just sit down on the PC and have an i3 or a 5600G, both with a GPU (let's say a 3070 something that won't bottleneck either) at 1080p... I don't think anyone would sit there and say "oh wow, this feels like an i3, this is bad". The experience considering you'd have good enough cooling, an nvme drive perhaps... like the differences are mostly synthetic and on paper. Unless you're playing something demanding or truly CPU bound of course.
My point is there's a lot of talk on min maxing your fps or the value per dollar you pay and if you CAN do that, that's great. But I feel a lot of times we (all of use pc lovers) get caught up in these discussions about chiplet vs monolithic design, 10nm vs 7nm, and 2 extra cores etc. when maybe the use case is just playing freaking vidya gaemz and it'll all be ok. That is why I like sometimes when reviewers themselves sit down with a "budget pc" and start saying how surprised they are for that performance. And it's like yeah man, a ton of people worldwide are on that or even lesser/older hardware and have no real issues.
All that said, again, amazing video. Subbed!
Thanks for sharing and thanks for the sub! Hope you keep enjoying the content
Great guide. Would be nice to include total system power consumption in consideration because more power consumption can add up to significant difference in your electricity bills over next years to come. If you are on a budget for your gaming/working setup it is worth considering upkeep cost especially if you plan to use that PC a lot.
You have no idea or neither you will read this, but i very much appreciate this as i've no or little knowledge about the combos about pc building. Thank you so much!
So glad we can help!
i been using a RX 7900XT with a I5 6500 and 16GB @2400 i can barely get 60fps in games, I use to have a RX470 4GB in this system to play games at 1080P
you paired a $3 cpu with a $700 gpu?
Optiplex 9020 with a RX580 8GB. I had to get the 700BR PSU.
Emergency build during covid when my trinity APU finally died. Actually, I believe it was the fm2 mobo that failed.
Upgraded to the RX580 in like 2017 for $300 from an R7. The R7 was an upgrade so I could run/stream D3 years ago on the APU.
Just bought a new Ryzen 7 5700X for € 140 on amazon and a nearly new, but used MSI 4060 TI 8GB (Gaming X) for € 300 - so €440 for the combo which is an insane price to performance deal, also the most power efficient combo i could find. Highly recommended.
Lots of people asking for build ideas in the comments:
Aorus b550 elite v2 £100
Ryzen 5 5600x £120
Gtx 1660 super £120
16gb DDR4 3200MHZ (Corsair) £50
1tb m.2 £70
650w power supply £70
Whatever case you want £30
4 fans £50 ish
Will run basically everything at 60fps in 1080p on high/ultra settings for £600
My 2 cents after 15 years: What resolution, graphics settings and which games I want to play at? This is the very first question.
Second: budget?
You always buy the best GPU you can afford for the resolution you need, and upgrade your CPU later, if needed.
Don't get less than 16GB RAM, and try to get your OS on an M.2 drive, if not, on a SATA3 SSD.
This video would have been a lot more informative if you add the Resolution into the mix as well.
60fps 4K gaming the 5600+7900xtx is a perfectly fine combo.
You get more FPS out of older games.
With zero budget I am watching just for self satisfaction 😅
I’m blessed to have a IT guy who gets a discount on parts so he builds pcs for people at part normal cost and his discount is his profit he’s awesome and makes perfect setups
im trying to buy a prebuit pc that can play/stream all the new games no problems but i only have about $2,000 to spend on it. Any reccomendations???
I found a great option for you at $2000 + Tax. It's the CyberPowerPC Gamer Supreme. It comes with a 7800X3D CPU and a 4070 Ti Super GPU.
Check out our Best Prebuilt Gaming PC 2024 video!
Love the enthusiasm, but the CPU is mainly an issue when you have a 4090 and are playing at low resolutions, like eSports. Most people (read: non-eSports players) who want to be able to play PC games at high resolutions with the graphics settings maxed out should put their money into the GPU and any modern CPU (Ryzen 5 Zen 3 and 4 AMD, 11th Gen or better i5) will be totally fine. Yes, it's really that simple. And try to get a minimum of 12GB, 16GB+ is ideal today. 12GB starts out at about $330 for a 6750XT, I think the 7800XT is the cheapest 16GB card.
MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI (DDR5)
G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 6000MHz (Black)
MSI RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X Black OC 8GB
Adata XPG Gammix S70 Blade 1TB SSD M.2 NVMe Gen4
Corsair CV650 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
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This js the build im looking to go for, my main use case is for gaming streaming and editing, please tell me which CPU should I go with
I5 13k or ryzen 5 7600/x
So Jason doesn't recommend that GPU. If you're going Nvidia at least get the 4060 Ti 16GB. The other option is the Intel A770 or go AMD.
As for the CPU either option is good.
I just bought a Ryzen 9750x3d with an rtx 4070 card for $3.2k after all parts and taxes. Looking forward to trying it out. Not as much for gaming as for some video editing, and game making. My 980x processor from 2012 was getting a little long in the tooth (but still kicking it).
I was thinking of R7 5700x with RTX 4060 that could hold for itself for 4-5 years. I've been using 1600 and GTX 1060 6GB for 5 years now since 2019, so I guess every 5 years you need to refit your hardwares.
Jason doesn't recommend the 4060 because of the VRAM.
He also doesn't think the 5700X is worth it over the 5600. He does like the 5700X3D though.
I would definitely rethink the 4060, especially if you want a build that will stay relevant. The lack of VRAM is a real problem and it’s terrible price to performance anyway. And yes I’d do 5600 personally. The 5800X won’t give your enough of a boost over it to warrant the price. See our Best Builds October video we have a fantastic 5600 build guide there
I just went with a 4070Ti and an i7-13700K. Works pretty great. Thanks for the info, though.
I disagree with paying a little less for the intel CPU's without IGP. Sometimes that IGP is a very good way to diagnose a display issue.
RTX 4070 Ti SUPER
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard - MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI
RAM MEMORY - Patriot Viper Venom, DDR5, 32 GB, 6000MHz, CL30
Charger - MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850W
Case - MSI Mag Forge 320R Airflow ARGB
Memory - SSD Lexar NM790 2TB
Liquid cooling - MSI MAG CoreLiquid M360
I went with a 7600x and 4070ti super. Runs everything really well
want to build a new pc and have 2 choices made. Which is the better choice? I am not the gamer I once was but I still want to play a new game.
1e. Asus ROG STRIX Z790, Intel Core i7-14700K, ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER OC,16GB GDDR6.
OR
2e. ASUS ROG Strix Z890-A, Intel Core Ultra 7 265K - 3.9 GHz - 20 Kerne - 20 Threads, ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER OC,16GB GDDR6.
So far i can see is the I7-14700K faster end in a combo Cheaper than the Ultra 7
The Ultra 7 is newer for that and will probably last a year longer. What is wise in this case?
For gaming I strongly urge you to go 7600X. See our 7600X build guide for more.The intel CPUs are a disaster right now. But if you really want Intel the 14700K is the choice (with the warning about the degradation issues).
I'm happy with my combo, it works great Ryzen 7 5700X3D & ARC A770 16GB
Hey, i hav a question, what are you saying to this build for 3D-CAD and some Gaming?
Basic Configuration:
- Case: ENDORFY Arx 700 Air
- CPU: Intel Core i7 14700K 8+12x 3.40Ghz / Turbo up to 5.60Ghz / 28 Threads
- Motherboard: MSI B760 Tomahawk WIFI
- Graphics Card: nVidia RTX4070 SUPER 12Gb (various models)
- RAM: ADATA XPG Lancer 64Gb DDR5 6000Mhz CL30 Kit (2x 32Gb)
- SSD: ADATA Legend 850 1TB M.2 PCIe SSD
- Power Supply: ADATA XPG Kyber 750W Gold ATX 3.0
- Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN
- Sound Card: Onboard Soundchip
Cooling & Optics:
- CPU Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360
Software & Warranty:
- Windows: Windows 11 Pro 64Bit
You want a Z690 or Z790 Motherboard and I think you need a higher watt PSU.
The rest looks okay though
@@kelley09162 Yeah, I want the Z790, and do u know a website where i can put the build in and test it?
@@maximilianweinhandl9460 there's PC Part Picker but not sure if something like that is what you're looking for.
@@kelley09162 I build mine in one of those websites and it said it needs 623 Watt, so my 750W should be enough
@@maximilianweinhandl9460Jason says you need to times the watts in PC Part Picker by 1.5 to see what watt PSU you need.
I would highly recommend deal hunting for used parts, just built a pc for under $400 with a 1660ti and R5 4500 that slays most 1080p games I throw at it
I got a prebuilt of Intel Core i7-14700KF - 64GB Memory
- Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB - 2TB SSD it’s a beast!!!!
i have a 7600x and a 4070 super. i play at 1440p and all my games run 120fps or higher. from destiny 2 to cyberpunk all at max settings. ark survival ascended is the only game i get between 90 to 100fps. it cost me $1,300 to build my pc.
intel always had a much bigger market share and software designers will test on the cpu people use the most.. AMD has caught up recently but there's still a lot of software history.. if AMD can get a 75% market share like intel had for 2 years then i would switch.. but if it's 50/50 then i'll stick with intel... the latest news about stability issues on the 13 and 14 gen intel i9 cpus is a concern.. but i never bought an i9 anyways..
i'm still using my i5 8600k from around 2018... it runs so cool it's crazy.. it drops to 800mhz on all 6 cores.. and just stays at 35c to 38c.. hwinfo shows my max temp is 51c to 52c lol.. it's insane.. my cpu before this one was hitting 90c!! ... i have upgraded from a gtx1060 to a rtx3060.. it's not much different but i haven't played much since upgrading.. but the 1060 played so many 3D games perfectly fine for me.. i only upgrade because the fans on 1060 totally died after many cleanings
my cpu benchmark score is around just over 10k.. and a new i9 gen 14 non K scores about 50k .. i7 is 44k and i5 is 32k... so about 5x 4x and 3x.. but my 8600k cpu just rocks.. it's blazing fast.. and i haven't even overclocked it yet.. it's just 6 cores of raw power.. i've compared it to so many mobile devices and it's always ahead.. it's just starting to be matched with snapdragon gen 2.. point is that a 10k score is still really good.. so if you get a 4x or 5x then omg.. are you building a space shuttle? .. i think a 14500 i5 at 3x the benchmark would be overkill for many people..
i'm guessing but i think an i5 pairs good with a 4060 or 4070.. an i7 with 4070 or 4080 and i9 with 4090
it's so tempting to upgrade my 8600k to a 14500 or 14700.. and get 3x to 4x the speed for a small price.. i could sell my old system and get half the new system cost.. keep my gpu.. upgrade it to a rtx6060 in a few years..
I think a big factor is cost.. the 1060 and 3060 and now 4060 are just reasonable priced and all you really need unless playing cyberpunk or something i'm guessing.. but so many games play fine at max settings.. and many play great with a few settings turned down... i payed bout $350cnd for 1060.. $500cnd for 3060.. paying 2x for 4070 or 3x for 4080 or 4x for 4090 just doesn't make sense.. $2000 for a 4090.. like as if.. for what .. 60 fps higher than my 60 hertz display can display? .. i use a 55" 4k tv as a monitor .. it's sick.. i don't need 120 fps.. i used to play games at 30fps and was happy it wasn't 15fps..
anyways.. of course if you're rich do whatever.. but if you're wondering what you really need for a decent experience don't worry about getting the top 14900k and 4090rtx imo.. not that i've ever tried it.. but i'm happy with what i got for the games i play.. just saying
i put together a B760m PG asrock motherboard (pci-e 5.0) with an intel i5 13400F cpu, 32GB of ddr5 ram at 6400Mhz, and a nvidia RTX4060ti (16GB VRAM) pretty much max budget for me. i think its pertty good for 2024 and it runs cool with a digital aircooler and in 1440p it runs really well, and even does alright at 4k but i generally stick to 1440p. but wehat do you think? those components are good enough for a 2024 mid tier gaming pc?
i think i have room for future upgrades, go to an i9 cpu when they become affordable and even a better gpu when they come down in price
If you've got Microcenter access you can bundle a Ryzen 7 7800x3D with a MB + RAM for only $196 for the CPU. Got a Ryzen 7 7800x3D + B650 MB + 32GB DDR5 for $480. Got my 4070 Super for $540 brand new (but I had a $60 off coupon so doesn't really count)
you forgot to mention the most important thing for a gaming cpu.. is the L3 cache REGARDLESS of how fast the cpu and gpu is...
is A620-E AM5 chipset Mobo + Ryzen 8600G cpu good combo for decent gaming performance or do i need to get a B650 Motherboard ? will there be any performance difference with gaming ?
I'm not into Overclocking. Suggestions please
A620 + 8600G ryzen
Or
B650 + 8600G ryzen ?
I do not at all recommend that CPU for gaming. Its absolutely terrible price to performance. You'd be much better off dropping to AM4 and getting a proper last gen CPU and budget GPU. See our Best Budget Builds 2024 for some much better options
@@PCBuilderChannel then which motherboard combo ur suggesting for same gaming performance as 8600G ? can u be more specific if u don't mind
Such a huge price difference in my country. The $390 7800x3d in the US costs $460 in the Philippines.
at first, cpu in 4k makes not so big differences and than for the 7800X3d use a budget Board. Why using a Z690/790 Board for the 13700k? All you want, you can do with an B660/ B760 Board and than you can save around 40-60 Buckets.
The same with the cooling.
The cheaper cooler can handle the 13700k for games, with no problems.
I think, more important is that with an 13700k you should disable HT and maybe half of the E Cores. You get an higher performance with way more effiiency.
I have a ryzen 5 7600x and a radeon rx 6650xt and ive had no problems i love it dont think ill be upgrading anytime soon