Pau Gasol or Tony Parker: 2001 NBA Redraft | Bill Simmons's Book of Basketball 2.0 | The Ringer
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- The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by ESPN's Zach Lowe to redraft the 2001 NBA draft for 'The Redraftables.' They debate whether Pau Gasol or Tony Parker should go first overall and then explain how Gilbert Arenas was a precursor to James Harden. Finally, they go through the rest of a strong draft that includes Joe Johnson, Zach Randolph, Tyson Chandler, Jason Richardson, Shane Battier, and more.
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Yo seriously, these podcasts have been helping cure my quarantine depression. TY so much for the drops Bill and Co., you're choices for co-hosts have also been so gangsta (shoutouts to House and Russillo). Good shit guys.
Same cuz! Same
Me too bruv
@M
You just go on random basketball videos to say that shit? What is your point exactly anyway? Honestly... Are you autistic?
As a French fan, Tony Parker is a legend to me. But, after all these european competitions during which Pau kicked our ass, I have to say Pau is a better player. He was so constant in his greatness. He hurt us so bad. Now, i looked back at it with nostalgia and a smile on my face. But damn Pau was unstoppable. What a player he was.
They could be even talking about NBA. But yeah with fiba rules Pau might be one of the greatest. Cheers from Spain
@@DPR1777 still better in nba
Pay was even better in international play..:
Kobe would agree!
Go co
Don’t let this pod distract you from the fact that Bill had Clippers season tickets
?
Haha
Source?
still does!
I mean, he’s in LA and he’s gonna have to watch basketball... and there’s no way he’s watching the Lakers...
No offense to all the other podcast buddies but I could listen to Mr. Lowe and Mr. Simmons for hours on end, their chemistry and knowledge are probably unmatched
Yea, not sure what it is but I'm not a fan of Rusillo at all
Lowe and Simmons for pure basketball knowledge, Russilo and Simmons for entertainment
Nah they were basketball knowledge but in recent years they dont know what the hell they are talking about. Russilo is best with BS
@@Odinson42 Rusillo can be a hardo from time to time but I enjoy him.
I never really paid attention to American sports media beyond the obvious shows until maybe a couple years ago and never really paid attention to Zach Lowe. I think it was only when I watched him and Simmons do the top 25 nba players show did I start thinking...oh this guy not only knows what he is talking about but has such an easy going low maintenance vibe.
Im glad Zach Lowe recognizes how Gasol had bigger international games than the NbA
Rafael Capo
Gasol was great in FIBA, but TP and Dirk too, the difference is that he had a way way better supporting cast.
Laurent True that, but still he was the best player on those teams and that means something.
@@rcapogarcia And Dirk and TP were the best players of their team too. But i'm not saying Pau wasn't fantastic, of course he was.
@@Laurent_08 That 2015 40 pt game against France IN France was so huge that in my eyes he is way better than TP in FIBA competition. He destroyed Gobert at age 35
The most important basketball games in the world are NBA games. An NBA title is 1000x better than Olympic Gold.
Bill: "The third pick seems pretty obvious to me" (6:48)
Also Bill: "I had Joe Johnson kinda 3a 3b with Gilbert" (11:55)
I have told people for years that Mehmet Okur was a big reason why my Pistons won in 2004. The three big man rotation of Sheed, Big Ben, and Mehmet was unstoppable. We always had 2 guys on the court that could fight for rebounds, play tough defense, and when Ben sat, we had 2 guys that could stretch the floor which created more space for Rip Hamilton do his thing
Okur was ok but Mcdyess was a big upgrade over him
@FGT RTD lol what are you talking about? In Mcdyess first 3 years on the Pistons he finished 7th, 4th and 5th in SMOY voting.
Mcdyess was a huge reason the Pistons barely fell off defensively in spite of the fact that they were replacing the top defender in whole NBA with a subpar defender in Chris Webber
What happened to Hamilton
@FGT RTD you clearly werent watxhing basketball. Sixth Man was the role both Okur and Mcdyess played on the Pistons so yeah its obviously relevant.
And the 06 Pistons went from 90 ppg against with Ben Wallace to 91 ppg against with C-Webb. It was because Mcdyess picked up the slack big time
@Brooklyn Fan-1 Sixth Man Of the Year
Redraft drinking game. Take a drink when:
-Bill Mentions Clippers Season Tickets
-Bill mentions league pass
-Bill makes reference to obscure article he wrote 15 years ago
-Bill makes a hot take that is immediately rebuffed by guest ["I'd take Mike Millers shot over anyone" - "Ray." ]
-An NBA Tough Guy conversation occurs
-A Stephen Jackson mention
-Finish your drink if the tough guy conversation LEADS to a Stephen Jackson mention
-A Pro Wrestling reference or analogy
add on
And we love it lol.
“If you play out his career 20 times...”
So Bill thinks Paus Memphis exit is worse than Tony Parker cheating on his wife with a teammates wife?
Hes french that's just a regular tuesday for them
jack koller lmao
Pp
Linnjujl
Also parker jumped ship after worsening the kawhi situation
I wish they would've briefly discussed the impact of Pau playing with Jordan on the Wizards
Zach Lowe is the kind of guy you wanna talk ball with in a bar.
In a time when Ryan Hollins and Dan Orlovsky are "analists" on national tv, I am really grateful when Zach shows up and drops knowledge.
I have 4 words to describe this podcasts: "league pass" - "season tickets".
Clippers sucked too haha
Or he was ahead of time lol
@@Anthonycheesman33 They're really pushing it with the he would be great in 2020 thing too haha
@@dimitrijetucovic1307 lol anyone who shoots 39 percent from 3 is ahead of his time now
@@Anthonycheesman33 Yeah, they're acting like 3 point shooting is the only thing that guys are good at right now.
As a pistons fan and hardcore stan for that 2004 Championship team, I'm so happy with all the praise that Memo got here. He was one of our prime back up bigs and he spaced the floor so well for our guards. I thought of him being for the pistons the way I've thought of Bertans for the spurs the last couple years. I was sad to see him go to Utah, but proud that he took a step forward with them as a quality starter on that really good competitive Jazz team
became an all-star too! btw loved watching that '04 team.
Can you imagine having these guys instead of Stephen A. and Max on First Take? Intelligent takes on sports, man that would be dope.
Did you guys know Bill Simmons had season tickets?
"I don't believe you." - Ron Burgundy
I never knew, if only he brought it up Everytime the clips were brought up
Yeah
He really shouldn't be telling people about that...it's embarrassing
Tinsley utilized the dust pan at the Malice, I would take him.
Spenser B 😂😂😂 i used to call him dustpan on live after the malice
Coming back to these 2 years later and essentially post pandemic it’s wild how great these were and how much it helped me through that time. Thanks Bill!
Agreed!
It should have been noted that it was because of Pau vouching for his brother that Memphis got Marc in the LA trade which made that trade a massive win-win. Marc at the time was a second-round pick, 48th, but Pau told them he was going to be as good as him if not better. Marc was a beast for Memphis for so long and in hindsight, the best trade piece LA gave away in that trade. That was thanks to Pau, he gave enough to Memphis but he was a winner and deserved his rings. Side note, Spain deserved winning at least one of the two 2008-2012 Olympic finals, led by the Gasol brothers. They where severely hurt by the refs, who allowed team USA to travel all the time.
Parker was never THE guy like Gasol was in Memphis. Plus, I really just don't know what he would have been on another team, without Duncan and the Spurs coaching and infrastructure. Like if he actually went to the Clippers? Yeah I just don't know. Yeah, Gasol was great Game 7 against the Celtics but Artest won that game. How could you blame Gasol for leaving Memphis? They never did shit to help him out. I can't believe Parker and Gasol only went to 6 all star games each.
Bill, big fan of your work but c'mon, I'm with Zach Lowe 100%, Pau Gasol over Tony Parker for number 1 pick. Let's not overthink this. Pau was slightly better.
Bryant Dong Bill misses and is just wrong on so many things it's crazy.
I think he’s right it’s really a 50/50 star either side is an understandable argument
Bryant Dong
No, you can choose Pau, but choosing TP makes totally sense. And peak Tony Parker was amazing, and was the best PG of the league for 2 or 3 years, and of course a top 3 PG for 5-8 years. I think peak parker (2013) was better than peak Pau.
Laurent there was no point where tp was the best pg in the league. Kidd, Nash, and Cp3 were the number ones. Tp was always near the top but never the top guy
@@TheIcemanthomas You're wrong, and your pseudo says it all. TP was the best PG at least in 2011-2012 and 2012-2013. But you don't know it, because you only know stats and what medias told you. And of course, the fact you're a CP3 stan explains it too.
Don’t forget about Andres Nocioni he was a beast!
He was a problem on my bulls. A solid 16 and 7, good team player and all around player
Dam my dude, Andres Nocioni, there is a name I haven't heard in a dam decade
His dunk on that dude on the Wizards is my favorite not-famous dunk of all-time. Just filthy.
@@samismith8752 oh yeah that dunk was filthy!
As a cavs fan, he gave us fits. Kirk hinrich. Chris duhon. Luol deng and Ben Gordon. Scott Skiles is super underrated as a coach.
Thank you gentleman for these deep dive throwback draft sessions - I respect your commitment to sports and your deep understanding of their significance to us fans. Also, it is wonderful to be reminded of these guys (some quality b-ball players): Mehmet Okur, Shane Battier, Troy Murphy, and Samuel Dalembert.
Coming back and listening to these 4 years later. Great content in the background for a desk job!
Love these. Keep em coming!
Glad to see Gilbert get some love. He was a head case but he was SOOOO talented.
I would take this over anything Netflix has ever put out. This is incredible content for us hardcore NBA fans.
Man these redrafts are great
2009-2010 gerald wallace was another animal ...he was legit insane that year two ways like finals 2014 kawhi style......I swear if the bobcats played the cavs they would win as a 8th seed...
Get Loweeeee! So glad Bill and Zach are able to still do stuff together despite being on different teams now. Grantland forever.
Jason Richardson was a great player. Unfortunately, he often gets overlooked, even when he was winning Dunk Contests, his all-around statistics were solid.
His entire career was a disappointment, though. He had literally everything you wanted in a go to player but never was. Great shooter, good handles, elite athlete, decent passer, average defender, good off ball, good post moves, solid off the dribble and somehow was just an average player.
@@tonyschimmoellerMaybe he lacked motivation then?
@fortynights1513 Naw I wouldn't say that. Just not everyone is meant to be a top 50 player of all time
There’s an alternate timeline where this video is really good.
Love this kind of videos. keep the amazing content!!
I'm Spanish, so I'm biased, but if you consider their international careers it's not even close. Pau was a monster, an offense unto himself, a solid defender, a perfect teammate, the paradigm of regularity, and a great leader. Parker was one of those things.
Victor Arroyo
lol...Spain had an amazing generation, Pau had Navarro, Rubio, Marc, Calderon, Garbajosa, Ibaka, Mirotic, Llull...TP had Diaw, Batum, De Colo, Gelabala. Flo Pietrus (not Mike)...And TP was a great leader, the paradigm of regularity, a monster on offense, a decent defender, and his accomplishments with France and Spurs are amazing. Choosing Pau makes sense, choosing TP makes sense.
@@Laurent_08 I love Parker, but this seems pretty clear to me. Pau was a better defender, rebounder, passer and scorer. He was also a better and more efficient shooter... so even though their career accomplishments might be comparable I don't really see the difficulty in choosing who was the better player.
@@victorarroyo4580 Pau wasn't a better passer and scorer, he was just developed sooner (and started in NBA at 21, TP at 19). TP became a great passer, and an unstoppable offensive player, more than Pau. And of course he was a better rebounder, he was a big...Pau never had any vote for MVP vote, TP had a ton of votes, he even was a candidate for 2 years, and was top 2 before his injury in 2013. If we know both players well, we know it's very close, and i think TP is slightly better.
@@Laurent_08 Pau was a better passer, Parker had more assists simply because he played point guard. Nobody thinks "great passer" when talking about Tony (and they shouldn't, he was a score first kind of guard with very limited vision), while Pau's passing ability and bball IQ is often ranked among the best of his generation. I don't think I need to explain in too much detail why Pau never got MVP votes given that he spent his prime either in Memphis or under the shadow of Kobe. Whenever Pau had a competitive team around him, like he did with the Spanish national team, he did get that individual recognition. Not to mention that Bill Simmons, who in this video bases his pick on a grudge that he still holds, believes that Pau should have won finals MVP against the Celts. Scoring wise, I know this is reductive, but have you ever seen Parker dominate a defensive stud like Pau did against Gobert in the 2015 EuroBasket? (Pau was 35)
@@victorarroyo4580 you are right, you are biased, "Parker had more assists simply because he played point guard" but at the same time has no problem saying Pau was a better rebounder.
Super nice content been thinking bout this for years
Gonna need more collabs between you two. The two best out there.
This NBA Redraft series is my favorite shit the Ringer has ever done. The content is just so fucking top-notch.
Tyson Chandler's second season with the Mavs in 14-15 is criminally underrated here.
Facts
Zach Randolph deserves more credit for saving Chris Wallace's career as Grizzlies GM. Randolph had worn out his welcome in his previous locations but became a model citizen in Memphis, which in itself is a stroke of luck for the Grizz. Couple that with the terrible drafts for a decade, and shamefully not getting a rotation guy or a first-round pick for Pau Gasol, and Wallace would've run out of town if Z-Bo didn't play like a beast.
No mention of Andres Nocioni? He averaged like 25-10 when the Bulls upset the Heat in 2007. He's better than everyone after Richardson.
Jason Richardson was terrific he's incredibly underrated. He didn't miss the box out Ron Artest was too strong on that play.
Take a shot everytime bill says season tickets league pass or he was ahead of his time lol.
Thanks Bill! This series is saving me the effort of going to basketball reference and sorting by 3 point percentage for every draft class
These are so good! Tight that you got Zach for this year a lot of good debates
You're thinking way too much about "how good he'd be in today's game" why not just take the best player but think about what was the roster situation on each team
Thank you. Very spot on.
No we need all the content we can get. They be like 15 minutes instead
@@slickeddy2000 no it d be longer. There would be more time spent talking about the teams situations and how the pick would help that next season. I get that the first couple are no brainers but some are more about fit
Y’all criminally slept on Gerald Wallace smh he was an all nba team member at one point, his peak was better than Jason Richardson, RJ, Battier etc
He will always be the guy that Billy King gave 40 million to & traded Dame Lillard for.
Crash... I miss that guys hustle
He was not better than Battier or JRich what are you smoking
He was a fantastic defender and athletic but he couldn’t shit at all and really wasn’t a reliable offensive threat. He was an all star and J rich and Battier was not so I’ll give you that but J rich was a great scorer and a good shooter and an above average defender who helped his teams out a lot more than Gerald Wallace did. Battier just flat out played the game the right way and was as good of a perimeter defender as any player in the league at the time and he helped make teams he was in better something Gerald Wallace never did
if they went by peak arenas was the best player cause from late 04-late 08 he was a monster
This is excellent, just wish it was the full pod version and not trimmed down as I end up doing both which means 40minutes worth is repeated
Bill Simmons, I rode G-Wall in fantasy to a championship...beast!
I love these re-drafts. Bill Simmons: only have Lowe as your guest.
Lowe? You can't be serious
My List
1. Pau Gasol
2. Tony Parker
3. Joe Johnson
4. Gilbert Arenas
5. Zach Randolph
6. Jason Richardson
7. Richard Jefferson
8. Tyson Chandler
9. Mehmet Okur
10. Shane Battier
This list is on point
Kind of an underrated deep draft if useful guys like Okur and Gerald Wallace are going that late. They'd probably go top 3-4 in the 2000 draft.
I love these podcast rankings, but Tyson Chandler over Jason Richardson and RJ? Bill...Please let Zach do the rankings
Both of them flamed out way earlier than Mr double double, defensive player of the year and NBA champion, so your point isn't all that debatable .
@jasonallen3678 idk how you can say rj flamed out when he contributed to 16 championship.
It's hard to say I guess. Pau played with one HOF, Kobe. Parker played with another HOF, Duncan. But I would go with Pau, easily.
Parker also played with future HOF Manu.
As a Spurs fan, there was no way they had any shot in hell of making the Finals in 2011. I didn't find that loss to the Grizzlies in the first round to be surprising at all, that Spurs team came out hard in the early season and racked up a lot of win but was running on fumes by March and April and at the time I thought the only team in the West they could have beaten in a series was New Orleans. Memphis tanked at the end of the season to get that matchup with the Spurs rather than face the Lakers in the first round. If you look at both team' records from January 1st on that season the Spurs were 33-17 and Memphis 32-18. Spurs were only 12-11 from March 1st onward that regular season while Memphis was 13-8 even with the tanking they did to end the season.
great episode, you should just mention who the teams actually picked for that spot
They should do this for the NFL draft as well!! That'd be awesome!
TP, at 6'2, let the league in points in the paint in his prime. Imagine that. That's how good a scrorer he was.
Alexandre Garrido that tear drop floater and him coming at you full speed spinning around the guard slicing and diced through the defense. I used to have to debate how good he was until he won finals mvp in ‘07 people didn’t see how good he was
And he wasn't real athletic,he didn't have hops,he wasn't physically imposing he just was deceptively quick,crafty and got to his shot off in timely manners
I'm surprised Gerald Wallace went so low in their draft
they seriously underrated him lmao he was a athletic, versatile defensive menace
@@trvspvrk he could also shoot the 3 at a fairly high clip would have been great in today's game
@@cdfs2822 basically mediocre or border-line stars from the 00s era can will be good this era because they need to do shoot , but gerald played for the celtics in 2014, and he can no longer shoot, sure was old but can never trust his 3 point shot
He took Charlotte to the playoffs and that should say enough
I would take Pau over Tony all day.
Iso-Joe over Tony though
Memo Okur ahead of his time.
Nope, he was just heavy and slow. Marc Gasol had the same problem, got in better shape, not even in shape, and suddenly gets better defensively and more efficient on offense because you don't tire that easily. Okur fell for the "I'm skilled enough to not get in NBA level shape" trap.
Pau to the Wizards makes sense too he flourished when he was under Kobe so it wouldn't be a stretch to say that with Jordan's guidance he would become an all around solid player.
pau had a nice career renaissance in chi town too, that 2015 bulls squad should’ve made it to the finals
We NEED MORE OF THESE IN OUR LIVES!
damn this draft was pretty good
Gilbert Arenas is the best player to come out of the San Fernando Valley 818
Jackson Gilmore no why?
Jackson Gilmore oh wow the time stamp 😆😆 I’m dumb
Thanks for uploading these consistently, through this torture fucking quarantine it's one of the few bright spots I have left ✊
2010 finals- kobe was 29/8/4/2 steals pau was 19/12/4/3 blocks. Pau was a stud but no kobe def deserved that fmvp
bigboner23 Ya, people forget and love to just gas up their own views beforehand. A lot of people hate Kobe, so they say shit like this.
Also, dont forget the defense Kobe played all 7 games, him and Artest were amazing defensively.
Yeah they hate kobe on the low
I don't hate Kobe I just thought Pau was better that series
@@Buttington_Headerson kobe 29 8 4
Paul 19 12 3 ...for the series
Game 6 kobe take over mode down 3- 2 .....I believe he had 38 and paul like 13
Game 7 paul better game 19,18
Kobe 23,15
Kobe was also clearly the better defensive player overall
I think the shooting % for Kobe was low
28:22
If you look in the background Robin Lopez is on the bench, Suns needed a board, yet our seven footer is on the bench!
Pau hands down
Brenden Killough
Both choices are good, but people only know stats, and nobody cares about the Spurs, while Pau played for the most popular and most loved franchise by the medias.
@bumdog Playing with Tim and Pop is not positive in terms of individual stats and glory. You put the TP 2007-2013 in a Mike D'Antoni system, with the big minutes, etc, he would have made huge stats.
Gerald Wallace is underrated here. He's not far off from a battier type player, he just never got to play on a lebron team lol but at his peak, he was a guy who could give you 20 points 5 rebounds and 3 or 4 combined steals/blocks any given game
31:00 WHOA Gerald “Crash” Wallace was a great player man
Fuck him. He ruined Gilbert Arenas' career.
If only Gerald Wallace didn't land on Hibachi's knee man.... dude would've been an all-timer if the injuries stayed away
I think there is no bad choice, but when i read the comments, i see (i already knew it) that TP is still very underrated. His career is amazing, peak TP was spectacular and was for 2 or 3 years the best PG in the game, and a top 3 PG for 5-8 years. If he was playing for the Lakers (like Pau...) that is the most popular franchise, the most loved by the medias, etc, people would know how great he truly was. I love TP, i love Pau, they're both european legends, there is no bad choice.
Completely agree
The zbo love is awesome love it.
J Rich with Lebron would of been one helluva combo.
Can we get a rewatchables of that 06 playoffs between wizards and cavs? I recall Lebron getting away with a crucial travel call in one of those games. Could've swung the series.
I watched these during the pandemic. Checking them out again.
I would pick Arenas #1 in todays NBA. He was literally prime James Harden in a slower paced league.
I thought Gasol would struggle badly for a year or two before he would be able to adjust to the NBA. Man I was wrong!
lol I love when Zach gets fired up and makes guttural ooooooo noises, it's so great.
Zach's "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOs" are top-notch and they give me life.
Kobe Bryant deserved the Finals MVP. He led the Lakers in steals, defensive rating, and out rebounded every Celtic in that series (despite not being 7FT tall). Everybody shot like shit in that series or shot below their normal percentage including Pau.
They only remembered game 7 of that finals. There was even a discussion of him taking fmvp even if they lost that series
Sergio Garcia facts on a broken finger and messed up knee too. That game 5 though they lost they probably get blown out if he doesn’t go off like he did
"The recipient of somebody else's brilliance" ...I love that.
I went to a Nuggets game & it must have been the 08-09 season as Richard Jefferson played for the Bucks ( looked it up 25 pts 1 assist 4 rebs on 11/19 ).
I was familiar w/ RJ and had seen him on TV in college for AZ and multiple times with the NJN , but “In Person” RJ was startlingly impressive compared to what I knew of him from on TV.
Great Size , Speed , and Athleticism in relation to the other guys on the floor. Of the 100 or so NBA games I’ve been to ( all Denver vs someone and in 80s , 90s , 00’s ) I cant think of someone who impressed more in person versus what I had reconciled them as by TV watching.
Joe has 7 all stars cuz he was in the east where jermal meglore and big z and coron butler and jermel Nelson can be all stars. Along with 11x all star bosh ...
All of these drafts show just how shallow the NBA draft a vast majority of time. There seems to always be a significant drop-off after about the top 8 players, even sooner sometime (2000). This actually brings up a question of the value of draft picks, because NBA execs seem to value 1st round picks as prime assets.
Troy Murphy was a little underrated! In 08-09 he was 2nd in the league in RPG and in 3P%. I believe he is the only person ever to accomplish that
Maybe bird or laimbeer. Those would be the only guys to get close I think
There is no question Pau gasol is the better player wtf is Bill thinking here
@Binh Nguyen I see the argument for tp but if u watched both their careers closely u can't arrive at the conclusion that he was better than Pau
Exactly
No question??? It’s tony Parker it’s def arguable on either side
Well said!
When the next episode please
GREAT JOB with these redrafts!! I like how in-depth you all get with a lot of the players and teams they were on. Your comment section seems to be full of EMPTY HEADED YOUNGSTERS who want to post trolling comments for likes and were probably too young to have watched a lot of these 2001 draft picks in their primes. They seem to be First Take/Undisputed fans who enjoy seeing CLOWNS LIKE STEPHEN A, NICK WRIGHT, SKIP & SHANNON GIVING 3RD GRADE LEVEL ANALYSIS OF SPORTS!!
About Gilbert Arenas, if he doesn't suffer that career-damaging knee injury in 2007, do you think you could make an argument of him going #1 in a re-draft ahead of Gasol and Parker? Imagine if Arenas had that ELITE 3-year 2005-2007 run for 4 or 5 more years!! Arenas was also a BIG-TIME playoff performer for the Wizards in 2005 and 2006(he went toe to toe with Young LeBron in 2006 playoffs), it indicates that he probably had the potential to be a Finals MVP if he was ever on a championship level team.Gilbert pretty much single handedly resurrected the Bullets/Wizards franchise, they pretty much SUCKED for about 20 years until he got them to the playoffs in 2005. I think you guys had Gerald Wallace way too low, he seemed to be a guy who could do EVERYTHING(in terms of stats) on the court, did his lack of longevity do him in??
Something that I find hilarious about these redrafts is how Isiah Thomas almost always comes up because of his boneheaded free agent signings and trades when he was running the Knicks!! HA!
Be good to get a timestamp of when this video comes in from the podcast.
Pierce, Antoine, Billups, joe Johnson... that’s pretty good
Good draft by both but I would have Battier earlier. He can seamlessly fit on any team. Great as a defensive QB and corner 3 guy on a championship team.
So many underrated players in this draft
Pau gasol; most underrated player ever.
His 08-2012 years with Lakers was so smooth
Something I've always found a little interesting about Tony Parker is he's one of the first very successful smaller foreign players that I can recall. There weren't a lot of foreign point guards in the NBA. Super athletic and super smart. A perfect fit for San Antonio.
If pau went to the wizards they would have been a legit contender... Jordan, Hamilton and Pau Gasol in the starting lineup they could have tweaked the roster and been formidable
Imagine Wizards Jordan with Pau Gasol.
mj gasol rip ...that team if healthy is in the finals in 02 and 03..and keep rip...what a solid team of role players they had around them but sadly those guys got hurt too that year
Imagine that with Michael Jordan 02 and Rip Hamilton man the wizards would have been fun and a lot more competitive
Gilbert Arenas is the reason I became a Wizards fan. Dude was an absolute baller and I really wish he stayed healthy
Pau rookie stats were damn impressive 😳✌🙌
How bill is describing the Zach Randolph and knicks situation sounds like the 2020 sixers
When is The next episod droping?