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- The Kokiri Killer has a lot more to offer than swag - is it finally Young Link's time to shine? Let me know what you think in the comments!
Special thanks to:
@BTSsmash
@vgbootcamp
Zain
rishissb
twitch.tv/rishi
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"This still falls under the umbrella of a rushdown playstyle, as your bombs are rushing down to the ground, in the direction you have thrown them"
marry me rishi
"This still falls under the umbrella of a rushdown playstyle, as your bombs are rushing down to the ground, in the direction you have thrown them"
thought this was an april fools video after this line
"you can rushdown to the ledge"
"Young Link has a chain-grab on every character"
No joke. I randomly decided to look at the comments at this part of the video. I read this at the exact time he started saying it. No one can convince me that we don't live in a simulation.
I feel like rishi is attempting to awaken the next axe for a character with these videos
for real. Rishi trying to awakening people to the next era of Smash. What a legend.
There actually is a discord server for YLink. It's got players Like Bambi, Molten, Niklas and so many more people.
I'm there and consistently learn shit. they have a 100 page long Google Docs all about Ylink
Legend of Llod: Rishi's Awakening
@@noamblumberg6003 Is there something like this for other characters, or Melee as a whole? I've always wanted to write something of a sports manga like Hajime no Ippo about Melee, but I lack the depth of game knowledge to take it far.
@@shoePatty there are. I think for all characters. Or st least a really good amount of them.
Edit: found it!
put the "character discord" filter
smashcords.com/melee#
How can Young Link win a major when he's obviously still a minor?
The exit is right over there.
he just has to pull the master sword out
Isn't there Cremia?
M I L K
this unfortunately has a new meaning given recent events
"Young Link has a chaingrab on every character."
Wait, really? That's fucking awes- oh. Godammit.
Young Link also has a fire sword, so ofc he can win a major
So does Roy, and has he ever won a ma-....
@@mateobea7801
*cuts you off*
Sorry, nothing to see here folks. Back to you, Rishi.
*jUSt bEACaUse tHEy hAvE A FlAMe sWorD dOesNT mEAN He CaN wIN A maJOR >:( >:( >:( >:(*
Flame Sword > Falchion
@@mateobea7801 Zain Roy won a tournament
Two years later there's now a young link in the top 100. Well done Rocket
Yeah it’s crazy how well this video and the dk one have aged
"Its still rushdown because the bombs are rushing down"
The only thing that has kept me going as a YL main is the thwack his boomerang makes when you land the strong hit (and the combos it leads to).
Guys, cherish his dair spike. I main YL in Ultimate and I would kill to have it back :(
@@Sax4565 what does his dair do in ult.?
@@Base_Bass_Forte it doesnt meteor smash at the hilt of the sword its just like a normal daie
The character that feels like you need to take 6 stocks before your opponent takes your 4.
Hey Rishi, I really loved the video, but the music was kind of loud at parts and almost drowned out your voice sometimes. Keep up the great content dude
You know what else is loud? My screams of terror when I watch all known deaths on icarly
@@deathrod123 r/suspiciouslyspecific
No it didnt and fAWK the 100 likes
its called putting down the volume
@@107_cow turning down the volume would also turn down the volume of rishi's voice, meaning the music would still drown it out. the music is definitely too loud
"You can always go for the tried and true jump airdodge zair out of shield"
I lost it.
yeah i main the links and ive never seen or heard of anyone doing that in my LIFE
@@dabsol9137 then you're not lived enough.
I've always really liked Young Link and Samus since they're the only characters to have both a tether and a wall jump, giving them the most fun and versatile recoveries to use.
They're a great pair to main because while they dont really fully counter anybody, they cover a wide enough variety to be able to have a good matchup against every chracter
I thought the music was a bit too overpowering, but otherwise it was a great it was a great video.
I liked the loud music tho lol
@@Themonkeymartin yeh, but it almost drowns out what Rishi is saying more than a couple times
goldiesloth pretty sure that’s intentional
no
I don’t mind but everybodies different
Rishi's deadpan is on another level LOL
7:28 best joke of 2020
Hmm, I feel like I found some secret video or some shit. Just and FYI this video is unlisted but because it is in your video essay playlist it can be found.
Not unlisted anymore
This is the most esoteric community I’ve ever seen. I love it.
8:28 that boomerang just came back from the next dimension.
Local Link expert here. You can Jump cancel item throws. No need for pivot. If you CC bomb throw you can throw it in any direction. You can also shield stop bomb throw to achieve the same goal. Also if you want to smash throw the bomb while dashing forward (normally you will get tilt throw) then you do run cancel (hold down) then C-stick forward.
i was dreading the end of the video. this was absolutly amazing with the ammount of depth you used. i wish so badly it continued :'(
'rushing down to the ledge' LMFAOOOOOO
music was a little too loud in some places but holy shit between you and AsumSaus, melee content rn is AMAZING
The chaingrab on every character killed me good vid homie
Young link imo is such a well designed character. A rush down projectile character
I honestly think a bunch more characters are not optimized nearly as much as they could
To be fair the meta still needs time to develop. Give it another 20 years
Probably because the more optimized play styles involve a lot more work from the player to execute. So it may be possible but not worth all the extra effort.
@@YouB3anz yeah the idea is higher tiers do what YL does but much better
There are. Of course Yink isn't optimized to the level of Fox.
But we know what could be optimized further through things like TAS.
So we can look at what 20YL looks like, and it's not good enough to want to use when you could just play Fox and still beat that while having more fun playing agressive.
20YL is the future I dream of
Even 19 years later and we're still finding new things and changing the meta. Goes to show how complex melee is.
I'm a young link main! Thanks for this video!
Game And Watch main still waiting 😭👌
@@Themonkeymartin I main G&W and Young Link.
@@zacclark5945 oh wow, me too!
I hope this video spawns a new wave of Young Link players. Such a cool character
Time to switch from DK to Young Link now
I like how this is really just a young link guide
Young Link's aerial drift is insane. Most fun character in the whole game imo
Rishi posts this just days after beating me with young link in r1 of untitled 10... hmmm... IM THE METRIC OF WINNING A MAJOR. Jkjk
I love that this is a series (do Doc next).
There is so much more melee to be played
:)
"Bombs will always beat out aerials." Oh how wrong you are (YL main here for the past 5 years)
YL won't win a major because he'll never beat the top tier characters in neutral. Axe is by far the best YL out there, and I just don't see him taking a set off a top level player going straight YL. It's not like AmSa with Yoshi where he mastered an under-utilized technique which took his neutral game to another level, covering up some of his glaring weaknesses.
I agree with Rishi and YL is a rush down character, but he's just not as good at it as the spacies, Falcon or Sheik, and he consequently struggles in those match-ups.
I’ve always felt Young Link brought out the finner elements of melee as well. He’s my main; was cool to come across this video.
Thank you, I appreciated this so much.
Rishi i just want to say i love this content snd your other essay style videos from this era. The decision making video in particular was and is extremely helpful to me.
Thanks for making them and i hope you make more.
6:18 latest nair is +0 on shield according to uncle punch training event, late backair is -2
not gonna lie, when the OOT music cued in after a minute of just narration i was impressed
just really solid editing
Both the links are super underrated
that chain grab joke baited me so hard I was angry at it xD wp
7:33 i legitimately exhaled over this joke. you win this time rishi...
"at his core, yl is a rush down character" with the music, makes me happy to hear this as someone who 2nd mains him but probably plays him more than my main (Falco)
I haven't really been hyped to play Melee until I watched this video. I couldn't really find a proper character with a powerful rushdown playstyle that I liked, but now that my horizons have been broadened, I might pick up the competitive scene in this game. I'm not planning on winning any majors or anything, but this definitely seems like fun. Thank you.
are u still at it bro
oh? It's been over a year, how is it going?
4:01 Turn up your volume to hear Young Link shriek as hes hurled into the abyss
Another banger in the books my man
Whenever I see Axe's Young Link I honestly wonder why he doesn't use him more, its sick and looks hard to beat
His pika is better
@@emceehawaii7542 You're not wrong but if he put the hours he did into cultivating the character's meta like he did for Pika I wonder if it would be better?
@@emceehawaii7542 I think more importantly, he likes Pika more. He identifies with the character, both literally with all the pikachu branded stuff he's got and figuratively, with how he likes to play.
OMG! You're right. A lot of hidden potential and as you said, there's many other things to master. Down tilt, down air's meteor, down angles of his boomerang, etc... I think I'll give him a chance in some incoming online tournaments.
You just opened my eyes to younglink and ive been playing for 7 years. Thanks Rishi!
the best smash content creator
It’s funny how after being a young link main for almost 20 years and him being the only reason I wanted ultimate I still can’t find a video that shows every bit of his potential in either game the amount of optimization I have placed on this character in both games is crazy and nobody else has this is why he has never gotten out of the low tier
And it disturbs me that everyone just calls him the jigglypuff counter pick because he’s also a direct counter to fox and I’ll fight about that all the way to my grave
@@jandaxprss6784 then make that video...? Or like make a text guide if you don't have the stuff needed to record a video.
"perhaps there are other characters with untapped potential?"
Amsa enters the chat
Every Falco: My lasers are rushing you down.
Thanks for the video YL has been one of my favourite characters in melee
7:29 DUDE I'M DONE 😂🤣
Thank you. I've been trying to learn yink for 2 months
I'm working on controlling space with bombs right now, I'm starting to be able to L-cancel more. I need to work on wavedashing more, but I am improving. I guess my playing speed is increasing too.
Now we need Rishis Temple
air dodge cancel throws are also a great tool and can help you edge cancel more often which keeps him moving even faster
His down air has meteor smash properties if you hit with the hilt of the sword, and so does his down tilt. It’s super effective cause no one knows you can spike at the ledge with it.
This makes me wanna play Young Link
Bro I love Rishi and his break downs
Omg i want to teach you guys everything about this character
You cant even imagine how little people usually know about him
You should make a discord server and post all your Yink wisdom there. Send the server invite if you do end up making one.
came for a mini documentary, stayed for the lesson
Next: Can Doctor Mario win a major? (uh huh)
Great video as always.
"Perhaps there are characters with yet untapped potential; we will never know."
*Sad Ness Main noises
This video makes me want to play young link so bad holy shit
It literally all makes so much sense now
I love the way you tell all the jokes with the exact same voice you use everywhere else
Young Link is basically the spy from stratego.
Trash against everyone except the best.
The sarcasm infused in this otherwise serious video had me a bit confused at first lol
hit the nail on the head, ppl dont think young link has what it takes.. just gotta play differently.. rishi really out here doin it for the young link mains
Young links the hardest dude walking Nintendo
It's ironic that he's one of the few characters I feel transitioned well into ultimate.
@GenesisGems exactly
You're really ab to get me to start labbing this character
Another thing you didn't mention is YLs dtilt is really good, sorta like Link's dash attack in that it pops people up for a combo. I love playing YL but his projectiles and grab are outclassed by other characters above him, and though he can rush down other characters really well he also can't deal with rush down pressure as well as other characters above him. I can actually see him winning a major though, you would just have to play him perfectly so the opponent never gets an opening.
I've always loved randomly playing as YL since I thought he was a well designed character because he's actually a fun one that uses items and isn't pigeonholed into it due to his speed (unlike his Ultimate version and honestly Ultimate zoners in general besides imo Snake and Richter).
Melee is a fun game to play with items, just watch Mango Axe Wednesday. And I think YL kinda lets they part of melee shine thru due to his use of bombs being much more interactive and interesting as well as consistent (no item rng swaying the favor) compared to Peach pulling turnips. I originally started messing around with him because I liked z dropping bombs into platforms and wall jumping, but stayed for a fun and explosive (pun intended) character
Young Link even in Ult can rush down.
The problem is similar to Melee though, unless he gets a difficult projectile confirm (in ult it's more so arrow not bomb but similar enough) then he's just not going to kill.
So he can be a decent zoner who can't kill
Or a decent rushdown who can't kill
Playing as both is best obviously, but still doesn't make him good enough because he doesn't have the punish game to compete with the best in either archetype he is trying to play in.
Compare him to the two most similar characters in Ult (as ult has way more overlap it's easier than Melee to compare)
Who is a rushdown character with a bit of a disjoint, not too much speed, and projectiles to control the stage?
Joker.
Compared to Yink Joker has:
- A slightly slower initial dash
- Fair bit faster run.
-Worse projectiles for space control
- Better combo game and damage for a much better punish game
- Better recovery
- An actual grab game that combos and sets up for edgegaurds
- Less disjointed attacks
- More range from the combination of his longer limbs and hurtbox shifting
- Better recovery by a fair bit
And even with all that, he is considered high tier at best by most pros.
Only bumping up to top tier because of Arsen comes in the help him get those kills and occasionally make comebacks.
So no wonder Yink isn't a great rushdown.
How about zoning?
Someone quite close to him is Samus in that respect.
Samus has:
- A projectile that kills by itself
- A way better grab and throw combo game
- Does a lot more damage
- Has way more kill options
- Can tank more because of her weight
- More mixups on her recovery
So no matter which way Yink wants to play, there are other characters better at doing that job than he is.
Same thing goes in Melee just with less concrete comparisons.
He's a jack of multiple trades, mediocre at all of them. That's a fair bit off from Melee top tiers who can do multiple things to adapt to the opponents style and play around their options much more than Yink while still being able to win.
This video made me committed to playing YL in Melee :)
Honestly both this and to a greater extent the donkey kong video were kinda ahead of their time as time goes on the links have seen a decent boost and dk has seen a massive boost in terms of players and viability so rishi I’m a luigi fan can you make a video on him and samus (who it has honestly taken too long to be considered viable and their viability has kinda gone down seen as no one plays samus) and doc and all my other favourite characters that aren’t considered top of the top
Both this and the DK video feel a lot more exciting now that matchmaking is out!
"And who knows? Maybe there other characters with untapped potential....we will never know."
Um, did you mean we MAY never know? XD
I'm a young link main and just... thank you. Thank you a lot.
The reason I (and I suspect many others) haven't played Young Link more is simply because his grab is too risky and getting shield spammed is frustrating. But this was a great informative video and I'll definitely try him out more now.
Young Link is a rush down character in the same way Diddy Kong (especially in ultimate) is. He’s a rush down character who isn’t quite as good at getting in as someone like Fox or Falco, but makes up for it with a neutral defining tool or two. Banana for Diddy, and bombs for Young Link.
Melee Young Link? In MY Winners' Bracket?!
It's more likely than you might think.
Thank you for giving Young Link the love he deserves.
can you do "can ness win a major" i feel like that character has so much potentia
YL is better for specific matchups.
I feel like if anything, normal Link has a higher chance of winning a major because he has a better overall matchup spread.
I'm tempted to agree but I feel like Link's poor movement and access to his tools really limit the character.
the meta is speed and Link does not have that speed and is also easier combo food
A skilled Young Link begins...
I want another one of these videos :(
Is Mr. Game and Watch viable?
Perfect Pivot bombs in melee. What a time lmao.
We just call them pivots lol.
It’s a good day to be a young link main.
Damn, I kinda have just been getting into melee and was wondering who to play since I've played Link in the other games for years and knew that both Link and Yink are pretty far down on the tier list, but this video has really made me consider playing yink
A lot of this still applies to YL in Ultimate which is why I still play him he really is very rewarding and rewards rush down and creativity. Sadly most only see him as a spammer
YL has a shield that can block every attack in the game
Your videos are inspiring, thanks!
I think the main problem with any link player is the over reliance on his spin slash. Ive found his pure acrobatics to be more useful than his spin slash.
Is it just me or does Melee seem like a better game when characters other than spacies are involved?
Please do Doc in this style. Please do more of these!!
I only found this channel cuz we got the same name. I don't play melee too often but your vids are awesome!
4:00 The scream of absolute pain