Neevesy's BMW S1000R vs MV Agusta Brutale 1000RR twin test review | MCN
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- Chief Road Tester Michael Neeves pits two top super nakeds against one another to see which one comes out on top.
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i love these videos from MCN
I really don’t think the MV compares to anything else on the market. Like you said, it’s like the bike equivalent of a Lamborghini. It’s a money-is-no-problem work of art.
Of all the preposterously powerful naked bikes I wasn't going to buy I wasn't going to buy the M.V. the most.
That's one sexy puppy, nothing comes close to it. 10/10.
😂
Agreed
Well i have bought 3 in the past, now got a Ducati Panigale.....cant wait to get back on an MV ....the rawness and the howl from the intake and engine together with the beautiful looks and engineering...soon hopefully!
The main thing is if you can afford an MV you don't care about the cost.. its just that simple.
BMW S1000R still greatest naked ever built. Looks may be the taste thing, but i love it, its alive at every gear, naturaly goes down in twisties, throttle is as accurate as it can get, all in all best naked i have ever ridden. Not sure why you would need 200 hp bike for twice the price.
As an S1000R owner I approve this message 👍
I own one as well. I love it
What are the best years for used
@@californiapoontappa The best models are 2017 onwards Sport version I think - traction control doesn't cut the power as quickly/sharply as the earlier models and the Sport comes with the most features before adding extra factory options.
I have brentuning stage 3 on my XR and it's insane
I own one but am a bit sceptical about some of the statements made here.
Firstly, and probably the biggest issue with the BMW, is the suspension. Particularly the front suspension. After two years of ownership I have found that it cannot cope with heavy braking or track work. My forks bottom out all the time when braking hard over bumpy roads or when entering corners at the end of a straight on track. I recently had my forks serviced by MCT with heavier springs installed and after a few weeks of riding, have discovered that they still bottom out quite easily. Avoid buying one with electronic suspension (the Sport model) is my suggestion.
Secondly, having travelled 18000+ miles in two years, the seat is indeed NOT comfortable. Maybe for the first 100 miles but I regularly do 200+ miles and did 6500 miles in a month on a European tour when I first bought it and my arse will be sore as hell after more than one tank of fuel. I've yet to buy the cruiser saddle yet but this review is based on standard trim. Maybe I have the wrong shaped arse.
Michael is right about the exhaust looking grubby but I polished the hell out of mine and it looks great.
On the other hand, I regularly do track days (in the novice group) and generally stay ahead of the crowd even with newer superbikes in the group and I wouldn't say I was a skilled racer in any way. I love the bike and was going to say that I will keep it for a long time........................but now I've seen the 2021 model. Uh oh!
Very good comparison as always. Neevsy you are a legend it has to be said!! Great work. 😁👍🏾
I love my 2019 BMW-HP S1000R, you don’t need anything more for the road, Grunt and power everywhere, and as you stated, The best “linked” brakes on any motorcycle I’ve ever ridden , and a Proven bulletproof engine in its 2019 form. 👍
What about ummm, the cam chain tensioner, water pump, quickshifter that on some bikes works great, on others it's horrible, useless mirrors above 40mph, ocasional start/engine cutoff switch sticking, some others, and that's only on post 2017 models.
I've test ridden an R and own a 2019 XR. Can't describe the bikes as having low end power. Don't need anything more for the road, sure. But the bikes are simply not torque monsters but rather rev happy road bikes. Of course, you can get power wheelies rather easily for example, but you need high revs. + the R's wheelbase helps it in that regard.
bulletproof? lmao.... one was leaking fluids from water pump at our local bike night. They aren't as reliable as the Japanese for sure.
Great series and I particularly loved this episode as I own a BMW S 1000 R and was very intrigued by the Brutale (though due to the price I never considered it as real buy candidate).
I spent about a year picking a supernaked and there are no really bad options but here's why I finally went for BMW:
Ducati Streetfighter=too expensive, not really that great in low revs, not very nimble i.e. not really great for the twisties.
Tuono=fantastic (arguably a bit too aggressive) on the road, it was my prime candidate until I learnt that the valve services need to be done frequently (well ~10k km is not super frequent) and are very expensive, as are most of the maintenance services. Range is also pisspoor with ~180km irl but that's no biggy for me. Factory version (which I was eyeing ) a bit costly.
Yam MT-10 SP=not too expensive (just a tad more than a full spec BMW without forged rims) but what put me down were lack of blipper (why Yamaha?) and the seating position which I found too upright.
Kawa H2= too heavy, too much of a straight-line drag monster than a nimble curve-eater.
KTM=also great, felt the most 'hooligany' to me in a sense that it seems to whisper to you "come on, go faster, it's okay". Also, I prefer the more cultivated 4-inline but the KTM twin has character, no doubt. The seating position is also very upright and while riding it somehow feels as if you are sittin right on top of your front wheel because there is hardly anything (dashwise and such) in front of you - I did not like that (the dash is great though). Bit more pricey than the BMW but not too much.
BMW=great price with lots of bells and whistles (heated grips, quickshifter+blipper, curve ABS, semi-active suspension, etc.), seating position is a great compromise between sporty-forward and upright. Felt most nimble along with the Tuono and KTM. Very tight dealership net here in Germany is an nice additional bonus.
Looks-wise, I actually did not like any of them except the Duc (which is still the easiest on my eyes at least) but kinda grew to like them all now.
For my purposes (twisty roads mainly, occasional Autobahn runs, no track) it was a close call between Duke, Tuono, MT-10 SP, KTM and BMW. As it has been reiterated 1000s of times, they are all great bikes with lots of fun to be had!
May I ask how tall are you and how did you find S1000R's leg comfort on longer rides (and vs Aprilia)? I had an opportunity to test-ride it for an hour and loved it, but my knees started aching around that hour mark. I am 193cm tall and wear 34" long jeans (so my leg's actual inseam is about 36").
I also tried 2015 Tuono Factory for 20 minutes and it was a blast, but felt like my heels were almost touching my butt (not really, but they were certainly soldering on the exhaust muffler), so unfortunately it is out of the race as I doubt 2017 Tuono RR would be any different.
@@impact0r I own a 2018 Aprilia Tuono and I'm at 5'11" (180cm) in height which has me on the balls of my feet with both down. The Aprilia is fairly aggressive but I've found that it's the borderline of turning into a superbike's ergonomics because of the leg position. If the bike had clip-ons it would be the exact same as many of the superbikes in that degree but I think it's amazing because the bike is built for the track through and through verses any other supernaked (other than the MV) in terms of suspension and ergonomics. Also I found verses the BMW and Ducati that the Aprilia has the best road feel but that could also come down to tires as well I'm not 100%. However it has the power to beat plenty of superbikes below 120-130 mph ( 193-210 kph) due to the high level of torque it can deliver off the line which I find more entertaining than outright overall power. It's amazing to ride in the twisty roads against other bikes in the superbike and supernaked classes as it seems to be the one near or in the front from my personal view. As for the service on the Aprilia it all depends on where you're from and what you're willing to pay. I found that the valve service for the bike is very in line with your average cost compared to Ducati here in the United States but that will be different elsewhere I'm sure. One thing I believe that sell every single person or is a good size factor in their decision on the Aprilia is the V4 platform and sound. I've got a handful of friends that we got together and all agreed that the Ducati V4 Streetfighter is simliar but only when it starts getting higher in RPMs verses the Aprilia. The Aprilia does sound straight out of MotoGP no matter if it's sitting still or moving (unless you have the stock can because of the engine valve that controls the DB level) which has always been a bonus to me. I do really enjoy a BMW and the Ducati but I don't regret my decision and I wouldn't trade it for anything else.
@@SNAPZ46 I believe you but I did my research on the valves. You are correct, the official version is to check every 20k km but the forums are full of cases where a sooner valve check & readjustment was required or at least recommended. Great that you do not have these problems. Also, most people agreed that the valve checks are way more expensive than with other bikes and more on the level of Ducati valve checks (apparently Aprilia uses a complicated valve control similar to Duc's Desmo but I really did not follow up on that). And sure, you can get more range with going easy on the throttle but what's the point in buying a powerbike then? 220 km is still poor, I get 300km+ on my BMW without restricting myself... So, I do not think that I got "all my points wrong". Soundwise, I totally agree, best sound of the bunch but we will see for how long until that gets banned in the EU (looking at Austria new ban on bikes with 95+ dB).
@@impact0r I am 186 cm tall and wear 34'' normal. I start to notice my knees after ~4 hours on the BMW but I also had the seat raised by 2 cm. I only rode the Tuono for 1 h and had no problems with my knees.
Agree 100%, Tuono sounded great but I found S1000r to be a better bike. I tried everything even the cb1000r last year and non made me smile like the bmw. Straight 4’s have character, it’s revy and smooth. When I read that straights have no character it makes me laugh, that smoothness and top end rage is the character. Love my 2020 colours s1000r. I will keep this in my garage forever, will add a sports bike and others as I get older.
I thought I wanted a super-naked. I took all the options for a spin. I bought a Ducati Multistrada 1260S. I have never regretted it.
That's not even a super naked mate!
@@autumnleaf2976 that's why he said "I thought i wanted a super naked" he then realized he didn't....pretty plain English.
@@MrKdr500 you do not talk about adventure tourers when subject at hand is, among the super naked, which one presents the most convincing case... Pretty logical stream of thinking.
@Throttle Therapy Apologies if my first comment came out rude, ride safe!
IMO They're all just chasing the Tuono and god help them when Aprilia get around to updating the Tuono.
Nick B Apilia is testing the new front wings for the tuono and bet they’re gonna push toward 200hp too.
💯 Agree
Meh, the s1000r is actually a better long term do everything super naked. Ridden both a bit, the s1kr is just so good at everything. If I wanted a fun only bike, I’d get a Tuono, but all things considered the s1kr takes it. The ‘21 is probably going to keep shift cam and have a healthy dose of power.
Tuono is too small for adults and forget a pillion..sounds great and track only as Beemer is better road bike all round.
Is the MV Agusta basically still unreliable these days??
Mv for life!!
MCN hates Mvs. People don’t buy Mvs just for performance. Just like lambos, they buy them because they are Italian pieces of art; and MCN hardly mentions or cares about that.
he avoids the words 'works of art' on an mv's...
He literally describes it as a two wheeled Lamborghini that is wonderfully styled and built.
Nothing justifies the 27k for the MV. You buy it because you can and because you like it. That's it! On the other hand, it's amazing how well the BMW has aged!
its amazing how far ahead of everyone aprilia has been in performance and styling.tuono isnt a new bike and it still dominates its class,itll only be outdone by the next tuono...
This video has saved me a fortune! I have a Brutale 750 which I like immensly but I was falling under the spell of the Brutale 1000rr and was brewing up mad schemes to find the money to buy one. Then I find out that it still has the two least appealing characteristics of my ancient 750, namely, poor low end response and harsh ride!! Well that aint acceptable for the silly money price, especially when its contemporary competition is considered. I've sorted the harsh suspension on my 750, courtesy of Maxton and Ktech, and with an Arrow exhaust the low end is greatly improved. So I"ll be sticking with it for a while yet as it's now pretty quick with excellent handling and ride, and I don't need to find £27k!!
The way the Bmw overtakes from normal road speeds in top gear is amazing, it really takes off .
Michael is bar none, the best motorcycle vlogger there is. Keeps it real and down to earth, answers every question one might be thinking without worrying about who's toes he'll step on... he a reader not brand advocate - bravo !. I wonder if Suzuiki will finally come out with their Hyabusa or whatever they call it, super naked with variable valve inline 4 (and I even heard turbo) version of the GSXR.
A new B-King that would be nice, I have a 2009 K1300r which has 173bhp and was faster than the B-King and back in the day was the fastest naked bike and got to say it is still impressive now.
I like reviews from people that know what they're talking about.
I love my 2014 SK1R. Well built, sound, power to spare and a unique image. I have no complaints. I would buy another one without a doubt.
What an explanation......very convincing..... you are best....as always!
Great vlog Mike, really enjoyed it 👍👍👍
Glad to hear it
I rate my 2019 S1000R Sport very highly. Matching race headers to the Akro end can (immediate 8hp gain) and fitting a small touring screen and rack, it is a fast and practical ride. Looking forward to even more ponies and smoother fuelling below 2,000 revs once I get it remapped after the 3-year warranty runs out.
That MV might be the best looking bike ever built
I think the 800 looks better
INDIAN FTR
@@Sandipan_Naskar Beauty is in the eye of the beholder i guess then :-)
picking up my 2017 s1000rs in a few hours :)
I bet you can’t wait. Enjoy 😉
Congratulations! Enjoy and stay safe!
Can confirm it is the most confidence inspiring bike I've ever ridden! And those backfires with the full akra system are orgasmic haha I'm in love 😍
Great video stay safe looking forward to next one 🇬🇧👍🏻
A fair review. I still love my 2017 S1R :)
What a fantastic good and informative review!
Outstanding review and once again focus on the fine points that are critical for everyday road work.
I am eagerly looking forward to Michael Neeves reviewing the 2021 S1000R.
I had an Aprilia 2017 TuonoRR. It was a magical bike but didn't like the inner city or workday commute. I now own the 2019 BMWs1000r. It's a ball tearing machine. Everything in one package & enough grunt to satisfy the best of us. If Aprilia gets the fueling down pat for the next-gen Tuono it will be interesting, to say the least. Happy as a clam with the s1000r & will be for many years.
I'd still take my Speed RS over any of these.
Yup, better in real world riding. Everyone likes to look at spec sheets.
I had 3 bikes,I just sold my 2016 Yamaha R1 and still have a 2015 Triumph Speed Triple 1050 with an SC Project CRT Titanium low mount with a tune,and a 2009 Ducati Monster 1100.Now that the R1 is gone I got to enjoy the Triumph on a 300 mile + ride this weekend.It had the same feeling when you break up with a fast sexy girl and realize the other girl before her was actually more fun and predictable.
Michael is the best bike analyst online. I agree. Far too much willy waving online with bhp figures. Always talks a lot of sense to me. Great article again mike 👍
People tend to underestimate bikes with “bland” taste. Remember, bland could be boring, but it also means it doesn’t have much flaw to begin with, and that isn’t easy. Plus, if you’re a everyday rider, S1000R has plenty to play with imo. I haven’t had S1000R my self, but I’d love to try one. Great review. Thanks for the vid
Is there a way to fix the throttle of older mv’s? And when did the ride by wire get to an acceptable point? Like what year ?
"It makes the new blade feel like a Hayabusa"
That's the worst insult I've heard for an MV😂😂
Until he said it was like being on a 125
So good reviews love MCN 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😀😀😀🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I’m wondering how this Brutale 1000RR compares to the old Brutale 1090RR or Corsa when looking at real world usability and comfort.
I wish more bikes had analog tachs
When does proper reviews Come back?
I loved my s1000r, the most mental bike I’ve ever , the way it delivers power is just savage . No problem hanging with superbikes on track either . Also a lot better looking in the flesh
Man I am kicking myself in the ass because everyone I talked to and chatted with said to pass and get the Monster 1200S or Speed Triple -- I bought the Speed Triple. I now wish I took that BMW out for a test ride.
Neo Smith the speed triple is a great bike too.
@@Lex-Rex monster 1200 and speed triple are both better than s1kr, what are you kicking yourself for?
@@autumnleaf2976 haha they are both rubbish bikes for real hard riders, which obviously you aren’t 😅
if i want a s1000r should i wait for the new model to drop? My dealer has a 2021 S1000R but its the one you are talking about, not the new one with the different chasis and headlight. Thanks.
Factually speaking, most people who buy and ride these bikes can’t get anywhere near the machine’s capabilities, whether it be from a rider ability standpoint or a lack of available environments to stretch their muscles or both frankly.
Fact is, we buy bikes like this because they’re fun; to look at, ride, scare ourselves just a little or a lot.
Either of these bikes will do that so I’d suggest you buy the one you want and admire the daylights out of it, ride till your butt hurts and learn to maintain your machine. Because it’s that rider, bike, road connection THATS really important to us.
Honestly I’ll probably buy the Honda CB1000 because it’s half the price of these bikes and the service center is 10 miles away as opposed to 110 miles for either of these EuroMonster works of art.
But in this case I’d rather the MV because it’s just BEAUTIFUL.
This is why I run a BMW S1000R :-D
LOL, he Said "Layery Cam" Thanks for Sharing. Rock on. I saw a Diavel (not the X) on you tube, whoop up on superbikes, would it be considered on the bottom of the list as well?
The MV Agusta Rush - IT'S museum is them canyon twisties AND those straight lonely flat stretches.
I have a 2019 s1kr sport Hp , great all round bike and super reliable so far at 10,500 kms now , I got a test ride on a 2020 tuono v4 1100 factory recently & gotta admit I really liked that v4 engine , but I’m going to wait to see what the new Bmw s1kr version will turn out like first before deciding anything for next year , I think the tuono will probably get updated too soon also , but as u said the Bmw does have everything in the extras compartment which is always a bonus
Interesting...is the Brutale 800 gutless at low revs too?
The best analyst out there.Thks.JHB-SA.
Bmw s1000r is for me the best naked you can buy for the price, super bike with straight bars. Tried a lot of naked’s and bmw did everything for me, bought last year so even with everything else around I still couldn’t fault it, The Tuono was my next favourite but the bmw fully loaded last year was a much better deal over 2k cheaper and I preferred its straight 4 smoothness (Tuono sounded better). 200bhp naked’s are too much, i would rather keep my blistering 165 bhp naked and buy an additional 200bhp second hand sports bike (shopping for a second hand s1000rr). ZH, Naked V4, Brutale are not for me. Tuono or the new s1000r, yes please.
I have a 2015 S1000R and I absolutely love it, I just hope the new one doesn’t have the F900 headlight In final form.
Same here. It compliments my R1200GS for putting around town very well.
Why was the Speed Triple RS left out?
Nice video. I looked it up, because I´m on the verge of selling my 2018 S1000R (catless, Brentuning Stage 2, forged wheels), since I do several track days (don´t want a superbike though) and the bimmer seems to lack power on the track and the brakes don´t impress on the track either. I was looking into the Ducati SFV4, but I didn´t like the price tag. All I hear is "buy a Tuono Factory". Michael, would you say I won´t be dissapointed by the Tuono? I know you said you would marry one. :) Thanks
When are you testing the new BMW S100R vs the new Tuono V4
Have to agree with the fact that the bmw is a great naked bike. Easy, efficient, the Akrapovich sounds great. Not the best looking one but I love it.
It’s fun to compare “without price”...
But in the real world price is at least 50% of the factor for us mortals. So (for me anyway) the “price included” conclusion is all that counts.
Well BMW is made for people who have money, mvagusta is made for people who really have money
Been riding the S1000R 2017 for two years, everyday. Mileage is at 17k now. It’s amazing except for the cam tensioner rattling issue and fuel pump issue.
Put on the silver cap
Fantastic video but where is the speed triple?
I love how he doesn't mention the pillion accommodations cause you could just buy 2 S1000Rs for you and your partner for the price of the MV.
Two Beemers any time instead of one overpriced Italian sculpture.
Or one BMW and travel the whole Europe for 6 months on the 14k that is left over haha
You are a prime example of the phrase "you can't buy taste"
@@nemanjap8768
Haha# good comment bro! 😁😁😁
I was just being reasonable.
My opinion is my opinion, and my choice is traveling on a bike that I'm not scared of leaving in front of a hotel or restaurant, while I'm enjoing myself.
I don't hate MV and I think that the Italians make the most beautiful things on earth when it comes to design.
Doesn't matter if it's a building, a piece of clothing, a car, or a motorcycle.
I do have taste, but I wouldn't spend my money on a sculpture that is only a dust collector in my livingroom or in my garage.
I like to use my bikes and that provides me more pleasure than just staring at something that is very limited and super expensive.
I never understood collectors.
I bike is there to be ridden, otherwise the whole motorcycling defeats its purpose..
@@laz1go286 Dude, you can grab the MV and travel around Europe too. People with Supercars ( Porsche, Lamborghini and Ferraris ) travel around countries too...
@@panzerrjcb sure
@@laz1go286 If i had the money, my dream was going to the famous No speed-limit Autobahn in Germany with a Lambo or Kawasaki Ninja h2r, or MV Brutale 1000rr. I wold travel all the way from Portugal to Germany to use that Autobahn.
Sold my cb1000r hunting for a s1000r can't wait get on one
My dream bike is the Brutale 800 rr
F4 for me. Although I love the 800 rr as well.
wow, very nice video. i have a 2018 s1000 and have put around 8k miles on it in a year. amazing and such an amazing motorcycle. yes it's old school, but is it really? 2018 isn't far in the generational world of BMW naked's. Loved the video
Calling S1000R owners, I'm looking at getting one but have read about high speed/acceleration wobble being an issue, even Neevesy shows it on his vids.
Is it an issue ?
Thanks.
I own a 2019 s1000r. Don't know how fast you plan on riding but I've been over 200km/h for short bursts of adrenaline and I've never felt anything like a speed/acceleration wobble. Runs nice and smooth. It was probably just their head wobbling because at that speed the dinky little wind screen will do nothing for you lol
the MV is absolutely gorgeous. What is MV's end game though? 35K USD, they cannot expect to move these at a high production rate globally.
Especially not with a Streetfighter V4 value and upcoming S1000R and Tuono.
They aren't trying to make high numbers anyway. Look at them as ferrari, ferrari isn't trying to make 100 000 cars per year, just like mv isn't trying to make bunch of bikes
Hey Neevesy when are you going to do a review on the new BMW S1000R
Sweet looking mv!
i have two choice
2019 s1000r with 2700km on the clock for 13k€ (exact same one from the video)
2020 zh2 1000km 15k€
witch one should i buy for an everyday road use ?
No brainer. For everyday use the BMW.
Speed Triple always left out :(
Feveredbike not enough power
@@joeykim3938 I have a feeling 2021 is going to change that.
The '21 triple will be hovering 175-180...probably 100ish ft lb of torque.
The kicker is the 18-20 triples will still go 160mph not much off the clip of any of them and still walks away from the mt10 lol
Why is that thing getting so much notoriety? Yay a downtuned R1. Yippee
It really isn't that good lol
The S3 is heavy, slow and out of date amongst this field.. I loved mine, but honestly it has no place here anymore.
@@kawajez heavy? The Tuono weights more. Slow? 160 mph exactly where the others are within a 5,maybe 10 mph variance....
2014 Sk1R owner it is an outstanding machine that handling extremely well its been very successful in the last 7 years of continuous production gain a lot of trust from bimmer customers m big fan of asymmetrical headlight ❤️ wishing new era will be such good-looking and reliable as the existing.
"willie waving online", too funny
Sometime I do this online and sometime in person.
The MV looks like every motorcycle from b-grade 80s sci-fi.
I love my 2019 S1000R, but I'm so tempted to trade it for the 2020 1290R.. I had a 2017 1290R that was a bit of a lemon, which is what made me buy the BMW, because the warranty and dealer support is very good. But time heals all wounds as they say.. 😬
Loved this review at the time and owned a S1000R (2017) - sadly the new S1000R wasn't formidable, it was pricey shite. Now back on a 2019 S1000R after an expensive departure. The new bike in my opinion is Emperors New Clothes. The 2017-20 S1000R i think will become a much sought after bike.
I don't think that this machine can be reviewed in its full this way, you need to own one and then post an opinion about it. The engine on the RS is not the same as in the RR, Oro, Rush or Nürburgring. The engine for the RR, Oro, Rush or Nürburgring is the same engine used in the F4 RC WSBK bike, literally the same. The bike come factory with a 16-tooth front sprocket. On the RR gift box there's a 15-tooth sprocket. I waited the 600 miles period for the 1st oil change then I changed to the 15-tooth, and it changed the whole dynamic of the bike. MV sell the race kit which consist of the ECU and full titanium exhaust. I recommend adding this to this platform is a whole different thing. It will change this to a WSBK bike. You'll have more 200 hp to the wheel instead of the crank with the new ECU and in the process loose about 18kg/40 lbs. and eliminated the under pipe which heats the seat. I've raced Ferraris, Lambos, Hayas with and without turbo and everything in between and none, absolutely not one of them come to even 0.0002% of the acceleration of this beast. If you think is quick now, comparing it to OEM is like comparing a 1000cc bike with a 150cc scooter. Instead of waking up at 9k RPMS now it is always wake up and after 6k rpm better hold on to dear life because it will go to hyper drive. Neutral in OEM trim is 1250 rpms with the race ECU is 1450 rpms. It sounds like an Italian F1 V8 the sound is very impressive; I can't even turn it on after 7 pm to avoid problem with neighbors. If you own one of these incredible machines, I encourage you to make the effort and spend the extra 4k euros and get the race kit it is worth every penny. The reason MV sell OEM this bike this way with the 16-tooth and the constraint factory ECU is that normal people will not get scared of this machine. In race trim she does not like it under 3k rpms, does not like to do any kind normal rides (like going 65 steady) with a bunch of other bikes. I ride alone on the MV it's either on or off, no in-between. you have to ride with compromised to get max out of it. do not grab those clips on just let her do her thing and the bikes glides in the corners is very impressive. I can say with confidence that at 170 mph the wings and the damper work extremely well. The bike does not have an anti wheele instead is a front lift control which permits the bikes front wheel lift the right amount to give the rear wheel the maximum of grip. My cousin owns a GT500 a 427AC Cobra and a GT40 and believe me is faster than any of those. I do not race with anyone no more is no fun with this bike. I just ride alone very fast and then go home.
As a road bike, low to mid range torque trumps top end bhp every time imo.
I cant wait to see the 2021 s1000r....😍😍😍😍😍😍😍.
So... Whats your verdict on the new S1000r, design wise? Dig the new headlight?
@@ronitpable5795 , nooooo way....TBH it really sucks....🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕
Everyone has forgotten the former class king. The Speed Triple with "only" 140 ish bhp....
IMHO, nobody needs more than 120 bhp on the road, so the old 90's 955i and the 2005 on 1050's are still relevant, and in a lot of ways, better than the current crop.
Three bikes were missing: add to these two the mighty Speed Triple RS! Come on! I know it’s getting old and it’s not the.most powerful, but though...
9:57 getting alittle close? XD Joking aside, really nice review!
How about a Triumph Speed Triple RS?
love with my 2020 KTM 1290R🇨🇦
What have you guys heard about the new supercharged Yamaha MT10?
If I am given the choice, I would buy the BMW s1000r or the Kawasaki Z1000 or any of the Japanese super naked, the prices are practical and very reasonable, moreover they a just marvelous..
I think MV should move towards making affordable bikes as they have the name and potential to succeed. Still what an amazing bike! ❤️
Great content. I feel like an eager student listening to informed teacher. Love seeing the bikes being produced during this mid to super naked wave. Not being a smart ass though but what about Suzuki’s s1000? Did it get forgotten or is it out of its league
I got an mv auguster add for this video
isnt it they are making a new bmw s1000rr?
Great review as always. Seem funny but BMW are now the "value option". I have a F700 and couldn't be happier - it was (kind of) cheap in relation to other ADV's. I was looking at the S1000R and think it's amazing value. 165BHP is more than we'll ever use on the road and on-track - well, get a track bike I guess unless you're just doing it for fun - none of these nakeds will "win" a race. I rode the 1000XR (same engine I think) and you don't need gears - literally, stay in 6th and twist - wow. BMW for me.
Why no Honda CB1000R in your list?
More a cruiser, not in the same league really.
I looked at the bmw but to expensive and reliability issues, Aprilia the same but ended up with a gsxs1000 best bike I've ever owned with a few mods later -better suspension +150hp and Japanese reliability, simplicity and easy to live with..
Serious?..BMW is far better built than the Suzi..not sure if you do any spanner work yourself but even the nuts and bolts are better on the beemer..
I don't get why in every review no one talks about reliability and cost of maintenance of the motorcycle.?....
somebodys got a crush on the m.v.!
Wouldn’t it be great if BMW made a M version of the new S1000R... With deliciously light carbon fibre wheels...
they are, spy photos are around with the new S1000R, and they already said every bmw bike will have an M pack as optional wich have the carbon wheels i guess, like for the S1000RR, so in the future we will see something like that.
Michal Ptas, Wow! Awesome! That’s great news.
Why dont you just replace the wheels
Castrav Eleuterius thank you for your suggestion. That would be by second choice. Usually it’s not as cost effective as purchasing a bike that already has the parts on it.
Dang! Who needs an M-version of this bike? I own an M2 and still get more rush on my old non-M S1000R.
Amazing that MV has gone backwards with their bikes. My old 910 was a waaay better bike than the 1090. Went to the dealer to trade in the old MV and when I tested the new one it felt like a POS... no power down low, then rocket blast at 8000 rpm.... the old one had gobs of power everywhere. 0-110 it was an absolute blast....handling was also great. But Had some gremlins and had to go... otherwise never would have let it go...
They got it right with the 920, and then they stopped making it after a year. Apparently the standard 800 Brutale is quite good.
Brutale !!!
Will we see these supernakeds on track? That’s where the Mv would kill!
Too exsy to crash it though..its wallpaper, preferably as a screen saver lol
MidLifeBiker truth
Thank you for the video. What does rev the Jesus mean?
My XR which is basically the same motor as the R, different geometry, more weight, feels quite gutless at low revs though. Not horrible, but can't agree to what's said here.
Overtakes in 6'th are very slow unless past 6-7k rpm. Dyno charts between both the R and XR are very very similar. The R and XR barely produce 80hp at 6000 rpm....
I'll take MV Agusta
MV is like walking with a Super Star, everybody sees you, and BMW is very hidious, so MV for me all day long, it's an art.