Is the 2023 BMW M1000R the best super naked? | MCN Review
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I have the "old" 2017 S1000R with 165hp, and its the best road bike I ever had in 25+ year of riding. This M is definitely my next upgrade.
old one is good new one is crap no midd push.
@@mfactory451 fool 😂😂
@@mbal4052 So agree it's a dumb statement but there's a valid point hiding under there somewhere. I've ridden the S1000RR quite a bit (and own bikes with grunty midrange), and while the top end thrust of that motor is incredible and will make any current S1000R owner jealous as hell... even in first gear you BARELY get into the power if you're sticking to legal speeds, and second/third (where you're more likely to go WOT) are much worse. So on the street the S1000RR didn't make any sort of sense to me (on the track it was a joy to ride), and if you want to keep your license you'll find that you're using the midrange of the M1000R far more than the top end (and the S1000R is quite a bit stronger in the midrange).
If you want to do track days then the M is a no-brainer - but the choice for a pavement pounder isn't as straightforward.
@@kuhndj67 A tune fixes all of that! They dropped that early hit to meet regulations, it's especially noticeable in the US. A few hundred bucks and a USB devices brings back all of the low end grunt!
I would consider a test drive. And the new S over the M. At 4000 rpm my 2015 S1000R (original Akra) has 30Nm more torque than the M1000R. Only above 10500 rpm the M1000R is faster.
Once again Neeves delivers a nicely articulated & thorough review. Always spot-on!
He's the best in the business.
Had an old squinty s1000r from 2014, swapped for the new one in 2021. And yes, it's wonderful, as was the predecessor. This M doesn't have anything I'd really use - bar end mirrors, even wider bars and the sharper front brakes would be nice. But don't need the M1000R. As I'm unlikely to track, I don't need 200+ bhp. But I do really, really want it.
Why would you take a road bike to a track when you could just get an 07 and newer r6 for dirt cheap if you wanted to ride at the track. Everyone talks up these standard/naked bikes like they are something special. If this was a faster design, this is what MotoGP and SBK bikes would look like. This is not a faster or better design for the track in any way.
idwithheld5213
You just constradicted yourself r6 is a roadbike along with all supersports/superbikes. Even probably the most race ready supervike, v4 ducati the rear shock needs work for anyone seriously into trackdays.
The beauty of any naked bike is you can ride a few hours, maybe swap the tyres although not needed with modern sport tyres, and keep up with all but the fastest guys if you know what you are doing, in the hands of a racer and slicks, this will slap any regular joe fast group rider, especially any smaller more technical tracks.
and after all that if you are still on road tyres you can ride home without feeling like a geriatric.
@@sean5431 agree! It's really the best thing for people who have kids and only go to the track now for fun! Competitive days went away since I have kids to live for!
Thing is, the S1000r at 160 odd horsepower was clocking that at the rear wheel on many dyno's that i've seen, whereas things like the Gen 3 Superduke (which I own) and the Speed triple 1200rs (which I've owned) are clocking around 160bhp (stock) at the rear wheel anyway, so theyre all comparable in their own right and fairly even figures. It should be about which bike YOU prefer as a rider, not about willy waving stats. But that's just my opinion
The new Speed Triple RR is a gorgeous bike. But according to reviews it’s too uncomfortable for the street. It needs a regular handlebar.
@blipco5 Yeh its called the speed triple RS 🤣
Morbid curiosity, was lining up the 1200rs as my next bike, what pushed you away from it?
@@AYYOFLOCKA Hi mate, Oil pump blew at about 1000 miles, I've documented it all on my channel if you fancied a look. Probably a one-off however had to give the bike back to the finance company.
@@sergeantsodom6969 No, not the RS. Check out the Speed Triple "RR". It’s gorgeous, especially in red.
I totally get what Nivesy is trying to tell us, "the S" is better value as a road bike. But similar to the Tuono, whoever buys the non factory bike always regrets when he sees the factory bike passes by. I will buy the M bike, and I will not use the 200HP ever, but I just cant stand that feeling/ regrets I will have every time I see the M bike.
The difference is that the Tuono is the same powerplant just upgraded suspension bits and other things... there's no downside to the Factory relative to the base. the M powerplant is much stronger topend but not as strong midrange so it's really a tradeoff that may affect how the bike performs for you. It's quite possible that for street only riders the S1000R may outperform the M.
Having said that... I want the M. 🙂
@@kuhndj67 I rode the S1000RR and you are simply wrong. The shiftcam engine has very strong midrange. BMW posted roll-on numbers from 6th gear and the M models kills the S model by a large margin.
When you outride the 'M' with a smaller hp bike, that's when it's fun and nice
I have a mate who has an old Cagiva (the monster thing with a TL engine in it) and he easily beats most riders. Thing is he has been racing for 30 years. A great rider on a shite bike will beat a shite rider on a great bike where skill is an issue (corners, braking). An barely average rider on a very good bike? Well, my mate usually has a beer or coffee waiting when I catch up.
'always regrets' That's a pretty arrogant claim. It's like you think you can read people's minds. Hint - you can't. So, what you're saying is PURE conjecture.
Your comments about the 200 plus horsepower bikes being boring street bikes are so true. I made the mistake of getting a Streetfighter V4S and I tried so hard to love it but outside of the track it was either boring or tempting you to go to jail. Amazing bike, just too fast for the street. 150ish hp seems to be the sweet spot.
On MN's view of its' road capability, I've a S1000R Sport. Lovely though the M is, another S1000R will suit me next year. Thanks for this typically clear, illuminating review.
Great practical reviews, keep them coming!
I had an Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory, great bike but honestly for street riding and doing mostly street speeds I love my little punchy MT-07 more. The liter bikes are great but they are complete overkill on the streets and they heat up.
Hi Michael, You're probably already aware of the echoey sound in your room, but if not, you could drastically improve the audio for your videos by applying some acoustic panels in your room. They're cheap and very effective :)
Even a lav mic would help 🙂
Please stop wasting words.
Yes, lav mic is needed.
@@chillislives yes, you should.
Sounded fine to me but i'm an old Luddite.
just purchased a 2023 s1000r m. I absolutely love it! Best bike I've ever been on. I purchase the white.
The Tuono is pretty decent at normal speeds, I say.
Aprilia tuono v4, still top dog, in my humble opinion, that v4 soundtrack can't be beaten.
Maybe, but reliability and dealer network means no Aprilia for me
@Shlomi Bachar not had reliability issue with my bike, but dealer network is not good.
Or the more reliable version of a similar noise, the Yamaha MT-10.
@@exothermal.sprocket there good, but still not a proper v4
@@bbb11293 And a v4 is not a proper inline. So what.
People get in love with pistons pointing in certain directions and don't even know what it's about.
Good review and a honest one.
When Neeves talks I listen like he’s a prophet !
Why all the chatter about racetracks? a naked is a streetbike. If you need a track to laud its capabilities, its wrong from the start... and who wants stiffer springs on a street bike? Is the Aprilia V4 still not the most delightful combo of engine and chassis? ... power be damned..
if they can only stop them from overheating ...
I wired in parallel a third 2A high speed fan, bottom RH side of the rad. Problem sorted when in hot Bangkok traffic. Cheap fix.
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Fantastic Review
But this is exactly why I love my 1290 Superduke. The power comes in low down so you just ride the torque which makes it a lovely road bike.
Always value your opinions
Neevesy is the best, going to direct my mate to this review, he's been banging on about the M1000R (and the S1000RR) for the riding he does (sedate) i recon he needs the S1000R.
I am so pumped to see where this bike lands on the 2023 naked shootout
the aprilia tuono was consistently the best super naked for many many yrs and the hp was mid 170's,,,, I have to say more power doesn't make a better bike
Yes but 175 HP at the crank is 150, maybe 155 at the rear wheel.
Always the measured assessment.Cheers.
Great video neevesey!
Really informative and very useful for a new rider, thank you!
Great explanation. Horsepower wars again. I own a Super Duke 2.0. 170 horsepower is plenty but the midrange torque is what is fun similar to shift cam making use of midrange
Whilst I'd really like an 'M' bike, 163bhp is more than I'll ever need or could cope with. I also prefer the look sans wings.
I never expected I would be able to cope with 200bhp and 100 ft-lbs, but now I just feel at home on my ZX-14R. I definitely don't use all the power, but it's extremely nice to always have it on demand no matter what I'm doing. Also, it sounds like a lot yet I find it to be the easiest riding "Spot bike" I've ever ridden in just about every way (just about, it's pretty heavy and doesn't handle like a pure R bike).
Now I'm looking for the next step up, and I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of that wonderful torque for better handling and ergonomics.
@@Wooskii1Sounds like a fun journey. Good luck with your next step-up! I'd probably spend the first year in rain-mode if I got on a machine like that.
With my current 2021 S1000R I was always little let down they didn't offer the RR engine but I didn't let it stop me getting it. The BEST upgrade I have done to it has to be the 16T front sprocket, the thing is crazy now and feels so good in all rev ranges so its good to see they've gone 2T up on the rear of the M so that'll be a great ride. I've debated the M but I really don't use mine to its full potential so i'll hold off for now and enjoy some track days with mine as it is. it really does stick with the competition bikes that my friends have and out do them in some places too!
I have found on nearly every bike I've ridden that -1/+1 is always an improvement.
Yeah, it's the only reason I didn't get one - kept the RR specifically for the shift cam engine. With a tune, it is better than the single R across the board, and I just couldn't give that up.
Just an FYI - in Sep/Oct 2021 they changed the S1000R brakes to Brembos, which are very good calipers.
My 2014 has Brembos.
@@knievel8727 yeah the earlier bikes do as well
Great review. Wouldn’t change my s1000r sport unless I had unlimited funds.
Love my S1000R Sport (with forged wheels) it's a superb ride. Just needs a full system as it's way too quiet stock.
Remove the exhaust valve. Seems it is a good start. I'll be doing it for the next season... 🤙😎
@@tescolles1837 I've decided to go for a full system, but hopefully you'll get a nice sound out of it 👍
@@lordgibbness Lucky you! I would do the same if I could. I don't dare... tickets for noise in Switzerland are tooooo high. Enjoy it and have safe rides! 🤙😎
Another great review 👍
A great review. Thank you.
Best description and review agree with every word I paid 20k £ for s1000r and the M will cost 30k£ custom will add huge margin
Only fault I can see is that it doesn't have a keyless fuel tank otherwise it's brilliant. My de-cat and tuned '21 S1000R Sports has brilliant mid-range torque and power and is a keeper, but this beast with a small fly screen fitted would have to be the best super naked ever.
Sounds like some good mods you've done. The Alpha racing (or TWM) fuel cap is worthwhile so you don't have to faff around for keys when you stop.
Yeah, but man... nothing worse than a keyless fuel tank failing lol. But it would be a cool addition!
Comprehensive, thanks
I owned a 2015 s1000r and didn’t really like the way it felt. The SuperDuke was a way better bike. Glad this new one is getting a boost in power, it needed a little bit more
Great review, amazing motorcycle!
If we didn’t have 200 hp bikes, our little jaunts to the grocery would be so boring. 👍🇨🇦🤪
Lol 😄, or chats in the pub about bikes.
"Wings make it hard to steer while wheelie'ing... but that's not a problem you'll have on a public road". Had to listen to that twice... not sure what you mean... you MUST mean that when you're wheelie'ing on a public road the wings DON'T prevent you from steering... that's the only explanation that makes sense. ;-)
I test-rode a 2023 S1000R M-Sport with everything except the carbon pack, and while the bike was great in many ways, it felt a bit flat. But the main reason I didn't choose to buy it was the vibrations in the handlebars, tank and foot pegs. I've never ridden a bike that vibrated that much. After an hours test-ride, it took an addition 2 hours for my hands to feel normal again. And the M-Sport seat was horrible. I asked the mechanic at the dealer about it, as he owned an 2022 S1000R, and he said it was normal for the bike. That was a big no-no for me. I rather went with a Yamaha MT-10 - much more lively, comfortable and smoother, the best soundtrack next to the Tuono V4, and most importantly no high-resonance vibrations like the beemer. Honestly I was kinda disappointed, as the S1000 cost a huge lump more than the Yamaha.
ZH2 handles pefectly at low speed.
I have 120hp at my wheel on one bike, 85 on another. I really can't use it all on any road if I want to keep my licence and my life. Where will this hp race stop? 300hp? 400hp? Incredible numbers but real world usable? They'd better start building more tracks with long straights.
Didn’t actually answer the question, is it the best or not?
I am really torn on my next bike. Currently rider a 20 s1000rr and was thinking of a Tuono, but Australian dealer is crap and they aren't known for their reliability for a daily ride. I like the BMW tech, but the s1000r doesn't have the growl of a V4.
You didn't answer the biggest question. is this the best super naked, or does that crown still belong to the Tuono V4 Factory?
Tuono
This is closer. I like this reviewer. Maybe someday one of these reviews will say, "Don't buy this bike. It has more horsepower than you can use unless you are racing. If you think this excludes you, you're probably wrong. You don't need it. You can't use it to its fullest past first gear without risking going to jail. Buy something realistic. Don't be stupid."
Neevesy tells it how it is, he's the best bike Journo out there, totally honest.
Some of us track our bikes now and again and do use it though
Is it as fun as the 1290 SDR..🤔🤔
I doubt it! But much better than the big Duke.
Doubt it. We’ll start with the inline four engine and resulting nearly complete lack of character. 😂😂😂
Sold my gen3 1290SDR after a year, massive disappointment.
@@PaddyWack999 I'm sure it is less vibey...
@@bachshl true enough. I've ordered one but thinking of cancelling it as I had my Z H2 remapped and it's now a complete monster. Yes it's heavier but the thrust from 3000 revs is on a different level to anything else I've owned
Cruise Control?
163hp, 207hp 😂.
I have a 65rwhp bike with good suspension and I can’t outride it on a twisty country backroad.
Plenty of r3 riders are faster than people on superbikes in the turns. Moto1 bikes can carry more speed into some turns than MotoGP.
It's not the bike, it's the rider. You have to push yourself to find the limits of your bike. But I promise if you started really trying, you would eventually be faster than that bike.
@@idwithheld5213 Yes, no doubt, especially on a track. I also own more powerful bikes yet I ride them not much faster. I don’t feel like crashing. Kevin Cameron said it best.. "If you want a faster bike, become a better rider".
I can't even handle the wind blast on my 2018 Triumph Speed RS doing Motorway speeds!!! this is just silly IMO, you really need wind protection.
Just start at 3:00m, first part is blah about other bikes.
Hello...i have a 2017 Suzuki GSXR1000 (L7)...I'm thinking of selling it and buying a BMW S1000R because it seems lighter and more nimble for road riding and also more modern...how do you compare these two bikes in terms of power delivery, but especially handling and overall enjoyment? Thank you.
That's a question best answered by you after you test drive the 1000R!
Good news-it’s much lighter than I assumed even though I don’t think a one liter motor is necessary. Remember the R69S?
No mention of the M 1000R competition?
In the US there isn't much reason to get the S1000R over the M1000R unless you are going for the base model without cruise control, heated grips etc. If you want the M paint and all the goodies then its' only a $290 difference between them.
exactly! The competition version is another story....
@@bachshl Agreed the Comp pack is crazy expensive but you get the things you really want from the base MR IMO.
@@SSS-mp8th the Comp package major component is the carbon wheels. As sexy they are they are not suited for road bike which goes over bumps, and potholes. The other stuff is just bling. The base MR is the one for me.
"Base MSRP" on a BMW in the USA is like a unicorn. It's merely a number on a tag to draw in people to fork over another 4 grand.
A couple questions for Michael: I have a 2021 Ducati SFV4S and I put a refundable deposit on a M1000R, but don't know if I should pull the trigger when it arrives to LA (dealer says January). Michael, is it worth the switch, since you have ridden both now? I also have an 2021 S1000RR I use mainly for track. Does the M1000R feel just like an S1000RR, but with upright handlebars? Thank you!
I want to know this too! +1
Contact BMW. Now. Get a test ride. They've got bikes for the reviewers. Would you travel to ride one?
See if that's an option. Maybe call the press office in Germany.
But he ready for them to push back because they want your sale. They will hope you'll buy before try.
Just a suggestion.
Uhhh yes it feels Exactly like a RR with upright bars cause that’s Exactly what it is! 🤦🏼♂️
Can you keep both? Screaming I4 and angry V4 :)
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now BMW Motorcycles of Burbank doesn't allow test rides of new bikes :/
one tends to wonder how much difference 200+ vs 160hp make in real life situations... but, of course, I understand why one may want to have the max power money can buy ;) if one is so inclined.
True, with 160 + bhp you're over 100mph in the blink of an eye anyway.
I think with the shift-cam system allowing the engine to run two separate camshaft operations modes, it really makes the 1L engine much more flexible. Shows just how limiting valve systems really are, when the open/shut and lift controls of a valve-train are restricted to the bumpy broom handle rotating in the top of an engine. I know it's probably not yet possible in small engines, but something like Koenigsegg's Freevalve system that operates each valve totally independently, on entirely variable controls without being restricted to a camshaft, would make small engines hugely flexible and capable. Whatever system could transform valve operation, if possible, would really turn small engines into monsters, but without any fuel economy or docile operational losses. In essence, you could have your superbike cake and eat it whenever your right wrist chose, without any downsides.
I’ll soon find out. Have one coming and my Monster 1200R is about 160hp
Do you prefer the M1000R or the Tuono V4?
I'm looking for a new bike, and really could use some advice- I would love the M but even if I could afford it I couldn't justify it, so I'm thinking about the S1K-R. So I'm looking for something that's fairly light, more upright, and has decent torque... I have a K5 GSXR 1K and a Kawasaki ZX14 and I love both of them for different reasons (ZX-14 makes great power through the whole rev range and is fairly comfortable, while the gixxer is it's own kind of beast on good open roads). Can anyone recommend a bike that's closest to bridging the gap? Needs to be fast with decent low end torque, more comfortable than a RR, under 500 lbs wet, and under 20 thousand USD.
I know that's a big ask but I know I definitely can get close (S-1000R, H2, and maybe the new '23 CB-1000R seem very nice)
I'd look at the mt10 or mt09 I had the 10 and I think it might bridge that gap for you, take one for a spin and see :)
I want the M in the competition spec
Just buy a 2015 or newer s1000rr. You'll save a bunch and be much faster. "Competition spec" on a non competitive motorcycle just sounds so cringe and poser-ish. It's like cars that have a "track pack".
So at what speed, assuming that you can't use over 200 hp in the first 3 gears, can you actually unleash it?
Stage one Bren Tune will uncork the low end from what I hear, factory has really stifled it.
I'm sure it's a great bike but I drink at the pub a lot lol
This bike is lovely. However, I would never spend that kind of money on a standard inline four. Just doesn’t have the right character to make a bike feel special.
I really don't know what ppl talk about the BMW inline 4 lack of character. This engine is a gem, some say that BMW studied the GSX1000 K5 engine which is legendary to produce their own magical inline 4. However, who really rode the S1000RR and tells me the engine lacks character should go see a DR.
@@bachshl There are many things in this world more interesting than an inline four engine. Like, most things.
@@CurtisBrandt what more interesting? V4 ? Give me 500 2T and I might consider. I have the S1000XR and that engine rush over 8000RPM is crazy. The S1000RR I rode on track is even more insane. I owned 3 Ducati V2, Triple, singles inline 4 have their charm and they are smoother than all the other configuration.
@@bachshl I prefer engines with a "V" format. It's personal, but the sounds and frequency of vibrations are better sensations to me. I just love the feel of the v-twin or four. I have no doubt that the performance of the high-end BMWs is impressive. The high frequency buzz/vibration of the inline four are super annoying to me, though (I'm sure that varies person-to-person). Though this has less (zero?) relevance to most of us, v-engines are also present in many of the highest performing bikes on the planet. That adds interest! Edit - I second your motion for a 500cc two stroke. Absolute stunning.
The problem with this bike and its contemporaries is excess weight which degrades handling and boosts expense. At 1000ccs and above, their motors are virtually automotive. It is telling that the accompanying videos show the bike on auto highways where handling does not matter. Compare it with the magnificent R69 of the sixties; I believe its motor was 600ccs. The R69 would howl along at over the ton all day long and its handling on true bike roads was first-rate.
What are talking about? The M1000R weighs only 438lbs (199kg) fully fueled. There's no comparison between this bike and one from 60 years ago.
One word. Two Oh No!
Empty Ten.
hahaha
It wasn’t for me but I had 2010 model
I wish I had half the knowledge Neevesy has!!
Seriously who needs this much power on a naked motorcycle? Nice tech of course but a Z900 would be as much fun.
Some people like 4th gear wheelies 😅
I have a 2020 z900 and I can't "legally" use more than 40% of it's power but people have to flex on bike night I guess...smh
Agreed. The Z900 is a tidy package, a lot of value baked in. Sure you'd have to spend a little more to make the suspension and brakes really shine, but it's a canvass. No BMW superbike is a canvass, unless you're 650ib egomaniac.
No its not, my cb650r is a super bike to ride and is a naked so as far as i am concerned its the best super bike, besides i can afford a bmw
200hp? I’m having trouble keeping my license with my little Hornet and 90hp😅😂
But............................ is this M1000R deeply into the diminishing-returns zone for the cost, compared to say, a MT-10 someone bought, de-restricted, and built the suspension on? The Yamaha doesn't lack character, it's got that in shovel-fulls. The Yamaha also doesn't vibrate at a carpal-tunnel-destroying resonance. But the MT-10 doesn't make R1M power either. Does it need to?
I'm drooling! My mt10 with 150whp seems weak comparatively speaking. Just can't justify $25k.
Could buy 3 whole pretty entertaining Japaneses street bikes and give one to two additional friends and all three of you go on a trip, for the cost of one M1000R.
I own a s1000r and I can tell you I’ve only used about 100 hp of it and that was crazy. Your mt-10 is plenty fine.
For some reason, 200+ hp and no wind protection does not compute.
ONLY 165 BHP! 🤪Most people you see out and about only seem to use 50% of that at the most! Good tale to tell down the pub. What’s the point these days on the road of these sort of power figures. Better off learning to ride a lesser powered or old bike to its limits to improve riding ability and learn to set suspension etc.
BMW M1000R aint no super naked! It got over 200hp so it's clearly a Hyper naked.
Bikes like Yamaha MT-09 and Kawasaki Z900 are super nakeds though.
I came up with this:
0-99 hp = Regular naked bike
100-149 hp = Super naked
150hp and up = Hyper naked
Tuono still the finest naked
Tuono > all
Tuono is a great bike and maybe the best exhaust note but aesthetically it’s the least attractive of the bunch. Of course taste is subjective, but for me that matters. I ordered an M1KRMComp, but I really wanted the Streetfighter V4SP, which is THE best looking in the class, but not $10k extra better looking
Who cares about having more than 100hp. You can’t utilize that power on the street.
Apparently people trying to flex on bike night, even my 2020 z900 is borderline overkill for the street.
That's almost a ten ton bike...
Way too heavy for me!
Where's the M1000XR ?
Why the crappy brake reservoir and not the usual BMW ones?
They've installed a radial nissin master cylinder on this bike, and the design of those usually means an external reservoir.
@@lordgibbness Thanks. Surely the normal BMW reservoirs are “external”. Just in a much nicer housing
@@richardbrooks4549 yeah probably so that the race teams could easily swap out a master cylinder and disconnect the reservoir easily, and now everyone just uses that design.
@@lordgibbness Not sure about that. I don’t even know of a race team that runs the single R. And the double R has the nice reservoir and yet it runs in dozens of world and national championships
@@richardbrooks4549 you misunderstand my point. It's about the master cylinder, not the single R. The RR also has the same master as this.
Yeeeah, I have enough trouble using all 125hp on my 2020 z900......smh
Nah. You use ALLLLLLL of it. And that's mostly the fun.
should have gotten the carbon wheels tho.
207 bhp in super naked bike you wont use that amount of power and at 19+ Grand joe soap wont walk in and buy one .
It actually shares the M1000RR engine, not the S1000RR motor.
You might want to check that…
@neevesybikes it literally on BMWs website. It's has the titanium connecting rods, two piston ring design, etc
It's the M1000RR motor.
@neevesybikes I was always under the impression that it shared the S1000RR motor too.
@@MrJayjay0420 it’s the 2023 S1000RR engine, matey…featuring parts from the M1000RR.
@neevesybikes that means it has a fairly unique power plant. I was just reiterating what i read.
Regardless, it's a fantastic machine.
Thank you for the review.
Get teh 1290 with a bren tune and be done.
Just not worth the extra money imo, it only gets more power by revving out an extra 3k? revs in addition to the standard R, I’d like to see a comparison of the dyno charts from the standard R and this M model, I bet there’s hardly any difference below about 10k revs, far too peaky for a Streetfighter 🤷🏻♂️
And those tacky stuck on wings are just hideous 🤮!
They look like EBay Chinese tat costing about a tenner a pair and just pop riveted onto the side panels of the bike,…come on BMW, is that really the best you can do 😳???
You're exactly right. When the R came out they compared it's dyno graph to the RR and they were neck and neck to 9k rpm, and actually it had slightly more power at very low revs. So you only get more out of the M by revving between 10k-13.5k rpms...
But I think they made up for that a bit by having lower gearing and a shorter final drive, to make use of that longer powerband...
The M1000R has shiftcam - the S1000R does not.
@@MrDeepseadweller yes we already know that 🤷🏻♂️??
@@1956colinb Well then what is your first paragraph referring to?
Boy those winglets are horrid. Worst ones yet
This BMW is without a doubt the 2nd or 3rd best of the super nakeds currently on the market, roundly beaten by Ducati Streetfighter V-4, by a large margin. This BMW is just not as good as the Ducati V-4 Streetfighter, especially the SP2 model. The Duc has more torque, from lower down in the rev range., yet screams with the most power at the very top of the rev range. And, let's talk COMFORT, as in : if a bike lacks comfort, it's not going to be ridden as often, nor as hard. The seat on the Duc is easily twice as comfortable as the narrow plank on the Bimmer. And - VIBRATION - is by comparison, non-existant on the Ducati, compared to the BUZZFEST that is the BMW. Holy CRAP those handlebars vibrate so bad, as to make the bike almost unridable, they hurt your hands so much plus the mirrors (bar end ones) are unusable because they shake so much. I could never ride more than an hour on that M1000R due to the extreme knee bend angle as well. This bike is powerful, but very flawed in it's execution. Just how long will that 520 chain and sprockets last with almost 200 HP going through the drivetrain? And that M-Chain? How much to replace it and the sprockets? Probably at least $1,000.00... Anyone considering one should take a proper hour long test ride first, as this BMW has far too many compromises... I'm expecting to pick up a new 1390 KTM Beast next year... it will be insane...I already have a Streetfighter, which I will sell on...I tested the BMW, and after the comfort and thrills of that punchy Ducati, mountains of hard hitting TORQUE is what I crave from a bike. A Really, Really fast big V-Twin is next... I expect it to be a lot more thrilling than my Monster, or Streetfighter.
Unusable power 😢 plus a court date lol😅
No
You have your power figures wrong. The 2023 M1000R makes 205HP. Just do a bit of research.
Very nicely executed.
I would buy the Yamaha MT10 before the BMW. BMW parts/ Maint. costs more $$$$. And you cannot beat the Yamaha Crossplane sound! Variable valve timing on the BMW M1000R might help me change my mind.👍 I still love my Triumph Tiger 800, do I need more?, probably not.....
had mt10 and s1000r no comparison for me beemer every time ,spend your money take your choice i did
@@steveiname I had an Mt10, a new1290r and on an S1000r now and agree it’s the BMW every time.
3 year warranty or 36k miles for bmws
Have to pay $10k more to get something better