I have wrestled for 8 years. This man knows what he is talking about. The two mistakes I would always make was searching or reaching with the arms and having bad posture. I often wrestled people heavier than me through college and my doubles would rarely work on them so I always preferred the snatch single leg takedown. I attempt an outside leg trip and while they are trying to regain their balance, I grab the single leg.
@@MMACoach79 I remember I had a wrestling coach who came in to run a practice at a Wrestling nonprofit that helped teach skills to people in NYC. The trick he recommended for double legs is that you want to attempt to have your initial penetration step be through the legs of your opponent so that before you have done your level change and set up to finish your takedown your opponent was already off balance. Just out of curiosity, is there a similar style of "chain wrestling" where you fully commit to every takedown but you make sure that your takedowns become good combos for winning
#3, planting the knee.. I train by-myself, no MMA gyms in my town,, been having this problem FOREVER, finally this video explains it..I almost gave up.. Time to get to work on not planting my knee. Maybe i'll even get this guys DVD's because he's the 1st to explain this.
A lot of people plant the knee and that's why I included it as one of the most common mistakes. I use to do it too. Low double leg ia not the only way to do it. You can also try the tackle (high double leg). No need to go down on your knees with that variation.
I've recently started training wrestling by myself for that reason (but I also do bjj at a gym), and it's been hard to learn this way. Do you have any tips for self-training? I'm hoping to train wrestling at a community college in the future.
Technique/concept videos can often be repetitive, but this one was edited perfectly. I loved the cuts of the active uke resistance-- just long enough to see what could go wrong, but brief enough to not bog down the pace of the narrative. Great vid, +1 sub
Double Leg Takedown, 6 most common mistakes: 1) Bad posture (0:49) 2) Shooting in fron too far (1:46) 3) Planting the lead knee (2:41) 4) Searching with the legs with arms (3:10) 5) Not committing to the takedown (3:52) 6) Not running through your opponent (4:56)
Thank you! very good advices! I do Sanda sanshou and I struggle a lot with the double leg takedown and I realised I do quite a lot of those mistakes. Now I can fix it
@@BlackHen25 yes it is. un sanda we have alot of takedowns and throws. once a fighter is down. the fight gets paused and you have to stand up. so there is no groundfighting.
i wrestled in highschool and have dabbled in other martial arts and these are great tips. I think the most underrated parts is the penetration step and head location. If your penetrating step is good they should be off balance before up even grab the legs. And the head position is key bc by looking across the back as you finish gives you so much more power than first trying to muscle it and pick them up.
Very good tips. I learned a lot. It always struck me as wrong to slam your knee into the ground to do a double leg and I was never going to train that way. 🙂
Question. If you want to train for MMA and want to have Wrestling as your strongest background. Should you first go to an MMA gym and train striking, bjj AND WRESTLING (whilst prioritising your wrestling) or should you only train in PURE WRESTLING FIRST before transitioning? I really wanna know.
Having a proper form is sometimes not enough - injuries can still happen if your back is weak. Whenever I drill a lot of double legs or do other kinds of lifting, and my back and abs are not in shape, I usually get a light injury. The solution is to do back extensions and situps every day. Start with 2-3 sets of 10-15 reps and hold the back extension on the last rep and count to 10 slowly. This always does the trick and then my back are injury free. You have to consult your doctor first in case you have a more serious injury like a herniated disc. I might do a video in the future about this...
I've also seen people (e.g. fedor) finish a high double by cutting the angle, is it sensible to combine the frontal offbalancing high double (I guess classical morote gari in judo) with the angle cut finish (arguably te guruma)? I've noticed that the drop-step double I learned in MMA is hard to defend in part because of this direction change.
Around the legs. ;) You can wrap them high up just under the butt, or lower. Either way make sure they are wrapped (deep grip), and not touching with hands only.
That depends a lot on the person and other factors. GSP has the best shoot in the business and he says that his Karate background helped him a lot with timing the double leg. Which would be logical if he was a Shotokan practitioner (because the have those blitz types of attacks). But he was a Kyokushin fighter so it is a bit confusing to me because they mostly stand and bang. Sanda is not a pure striking art, but incorporates takedowns as well. Muay Thai also has takedowns but they are mostly done from the clinch. It doesn't matter what your background in striking is because you can learn how to take people down with enough training and effort.
MMA Coach ok how about boxing? And which one should I train in since I don't have a striking background and would love to use takedowns in mma when I start fighting?
MMA Coach ok how about boxing? And which one should I train in since I don't have a striking background and would love to use takedowns in mma when I start fighting?
Boxing is great and it is the most used striking art in MMA. The best way to connect striking and takedowns is either by slipping the punch and going for the takedown or by setting up takedowns with punches. So start learning boxing and pay close attention to head movement (slips, weaves...).
CRUCIAL QUESTION: If you want to train for MMA and want to have Wrestling as your strongest background. Should you first go to an MMA gym and train striking, bjj AND WRESTLING (whilst prioritising your wrestling) or should you only train in PURE WRESTLING FIRST for some time before transitioning to MMA? I really wanna know.
enrol in a wrestling gym first. train it for about a year and then start MMA. so you wont have alot of problems with your wrestling. but i perefer judo or juijutsu instead of wrestling cause there is submissions and self defences in judo and juijitsu as well.
There are many ways to set the double leg up, with or without hands up. I teach the offensive and the defensive setups (just how I call them). Offensive - preparing the entry with the punch. Defnesive - preparing the entry with the slip. To learn more about it, check out MMA: Essential Lessons part 1 and 2: www.mmacoach.net/store And you can use faints of course.
this is a good video and I have mma exam next week but one thing caught my eye is that you leave your head out laying it on opponents side, might not be such a good idea because you could easily get guillotine done on you? Our coach always tells us to keep our head inside and laying it on their chest
There are many variations of the double leg and several head positions (outside, inside, on the chest). It is not incorrect and if you drive hard sideways during the takedown and clear the legs, getting guillotined is difficult.
Thanks I've learned many good technics from your lesson..only i want you advise me shall i start with other martil arts first before then mma or start mma straight ?? please reply me thanks again
It can be if a judoka learns how to modify it for MMA. Everybody knows how to defend single and double legs (not saying those will not work anyway), but not a lot of people know how to deal with some specific judo throws as they have never experienced them before. Wrestling is better for MMA, but it will depend on the individual also.
Finally somebody with REAL wrestling knowledge speaks up on the double-leg in MMA. So many of the people you hear from are BJJ guys who do a loose half-hearted adaptation and it's become the dominant perception of double-leg takedowns in mainstream fighting fandom.
I have a simple question regarding doing double leg takedown in MMA situation. Please don't crap on me for how simple it is. When my opponent has his left leg forward, what are the advantages and disadvantages of shooting for a double leg where my head goes to the right side of his body? Versus the left side of his body? Thank you.
It's a good question. I call that far side (hip) double leg. Most fighters shoot with the head aiming for the near hip, and there is nothing wrong with that. The disadvantage if we can call it that is that people expect it and have drilled the double leg defense against it many times. Double leg defense is probably the most drilled takedown defense. Far side double leg can of course also be defended, but sometimes people expect the near side double, sprawl accordingly which many times means twisting their body to the side and spreading legs. That can actually aid the attacker since his head goes on the "wrong side". And there are several ways to finish it. Check out this video that showcases TJ Dilllashaw's far side doubles: th-cam.com/video/In47i85tfEw/w-d-xo.html
@@MMACoach79 I think every takedown that Khabib ever did in UFC he put the right side of his head against his opponent's R hip. I dont recall Khabib ever putting the left side of his head against his opponent's left hip?
@@MMACoach79 I think a video on when you would choose to do a near-side double? and when you would choose to do a far-side double? would be very helpful. And the advantages and disadvantages of both. Thank you for considering.
Someone can help me with this please. My coach told me that is not the best way to put the knee on the floor but is very difficult for me to do the take down I need a council please and thanks for the video
I wish I had known about shooting in from closer a long time ago. I suppose if you're Kurt Angle or Sean Sherk you can get away with it but there's just so much time for your opponent to react. Most people that try it are going to have their takedowns stuffed or run into a knee.
Being closer to your opponent makes the double leg increases the chances of success, but it doesn't guarantee it. It is still possible to hit it from further away, but it is quite unlikely.
The only guy I seen get take downs from really far away was KHabib agains Connor, after connor threw a kick, KHabib distanced, then shot in shockingly deep from far away. But otherwise I haven't seen it against anyone good.
It helped me A LOT. Before my injury, I rarely got the double to work. When shooting with one arm, your penetration step has to be on point in order for the takedown to work.
Ivan Koev What you want is to make a sliding motion when penetrating. Just like a child decending on a slide. I might release a takedown instructional soon. You can see the details there.
Ivan Koev The results will come but you need to be patient and practice dilligently. Here is what you can do before i release a takedown instructional: go to mmacoach.net/free-mma-course/ and sign up for our FREE mma course. There you have two more double leg videos, although they are not the low double leg that you're looking for. They are mostly about the high double.
I have wrestled for 8 years. This man knows what he is talking about. The two mistakes I would always make was searching or reaching with the arms and having bad posture. I often wrestled people heavier than me through college and my doubles would rarely work on them so I always preferred the snatch single leg takedown. I attempt an outside leg trip and while they are trying to regain their balance, I grab the single leg.
JungleFevor Thank you very much. :)
your neck is so thick haha..
@@MMACoach79 I remember I had a wrestling coach who came in to run a practice at a Wrestling nonprofit that helped teach skills to people in NYC. The trick he recommended for double legs is that you want to attempt to have your initial penetration step be through the legs of your opponent so that before you have done your level change and set up to finish your takedown your opponent was already off balance. Just out of curiosity, is there a similar style of "chain wrestling" where you fully commit to every takedown but you make sure that your takedowns become good combos for winning
Psychology Stud so sad that there is no wrestling in Canada’s high school
Wait so i shouldnt use double leg takedowns if my opponent is heavier??
#3, planting the knee.. I train by-myself, no MMA gyms in my town,, been having this problem FOREVER, finally this video explains it..I almost gave up.. Time to get to work on not planting my knee. Maybe i'll even get this guys DVD's because he's the 1st to explain this.
A lot of people plant the knee and that's why I included it as one of the most common mistakes. I use to do it too.
Low double leg ia not the only way to do it. You can also try the tackle (high double leg). No need to go down on your knees with that variation.
I've recently started training wrestling by myself for that reason (but I also do bjj at a gym), and it's been hard to learn this way. Do you have any tips for self-training? I'm hoping to train wrestling at a community college in the future.
This is by far the best video I've seen demystifying the double leg, thank you.
Thank you Rudy. More videos are coming up soon...
Technique/concept videos can often be repetitive, but this one was edited perfectly. I loved the cuts of the active uke resistance-- just long enough to see what could go wrong, but brief enough to not bog down the pace of the narrative. Great vid, +1 sub
defcon Thank you. I try to make them as interesting as I can.
Super objasnjeno, svaka cast! :)
Double Leg Takedown, 6 most common mistakes:
1) Bad posture (0:49)
2) Shooting in fron too far (1:46)
3) Planting the lead knee (2:41)
4) Searching with the legs with arms (3:10)
5) Not committing to the takedown (3:52)
6) Not running through your opponent (4:56)
Definitely the best vid i saw so far on double leg. Excellent
Thank you.
Just what i needed to finally feel well rounded thank you
The video is toooo good man! keep up the good work!
Great Guy Thank you, I will.
This teacher works with me. Very easy to follow and understand.
Thank you.
One of the best martial arts videos I've seen.
Thank you.
Every guy that wants to do mma, sould be watching this video twice a day. Great Video, great demos and great details. 👍
Hvala puno. :)
Thank you! very good advices! I do Sanda sanshou and I struggle a lot with the double leg takedown and I realised I do quite a lot of those mistakes. Now I can fix it
Hey isnt that Chinese kickboxing? They have takedowns?
@@BlackHen25 yes it is. un sanda we have alot of takedowns and throws. once a fighter is down. the fight gets paused and you have to stand up. so there is no groundfighting.
Very, VERY good video on Double Leg takedown mistakes. and some great philosophy with regards to life and full conviction! Thank you!
송영진 Thank you. Jigoro Kano said that the highest expression of Judo is the application of it's principles in life, and I agree.
I think this is the best double leg video out there. Thanks a lot.
Thanks, I'm glad you like it. :)
Awesome video I have been making all these mistakes. Thanks so much for your advice.
You're welcome. :)
your way of teachiching is so amaizing, its so easy to understand. Thankyou sir
very useful, thank you.
By the way those heaters on the wall are very dangerous..
Thank you!
This guy is a real master. Teaching with perfectionism. Congrats 👏🏼 oss
Thank you.
i wrestled in highschool and have dabbled in other martial arts and these are great tips. I think the most underrated parts is the penetration step and head location. If your penetrating step is good they should be off balance before up even grab the legs. And the head position is key bc by looking across the back as you finish gives you so much more power than first trying to muscle it and pick them up.
Excellent video! Very informative and great explanations , like the music too lol
Thank you. A little bit of drum 'n' bass never hurt anyone. ;)
I do high doubles and this is perfect advice. Gsp is probably the king in doing these.
Thank you for the great instruction.
Nice guidance sir
Very good tips. I learned a lot. It always struck me as wrong to slam your knee into the ground to do a double leg and I was never going to train that way. 🙂
Thank you.
Thanks you coach 🙏
Great info, I loved the editing work!
Thank you.
really nice dynamic instrucionnal video . didnt see a lot like this one . thx!
Steady Life Thank you.
Thanks you very much for this video! Now I understand why I failed takedowns.
thanks coach this is a amazing channel
Thank you. Glad you like it.
Beautiful work!
Thank you.
awesome video im new to grappling and it explained alot thanks
great video. alot of good pointers
Great videos coach. Keep it up. I am sure your subscribers will raise to the roof pretty soon.
Thank you. That's the plan. :)
Good tips, teaches the little tweaks that even experienced double leggers can use
Thank you. The devil is in the details.
Really good material and instruction, thank you.
Glad you like it. :)
Be careful you don’t cut the corner into the rad. Great instruction! Thanks 🙏
One thing that is good about this is he talks about his personal mistakes so you don't feel so bad about things you got wrong.
awesome video mate, again :)
Šone Zver Thanks. :) More vids coming up soon...
Thank you very much! Very helpful 💪😁👍😊
great tips
Great video! Thank you!
great video sir
Excellent points. Thanks, man.
You're welcome.
keep adding chill music coach!
I will (haven't done that in a long time).
great pointers coach.
Thank you.
Good advice. Thank you.
What an awesome informative video! You really covered a lot in a short time. Very nice, man!
Thank you. :)
Nice video, thanks for the tips
Excellent tutorial! Subscribed!
Thanks Jason, more instructionals coming up...
Good vid. Thanks
This video is so good!
Thank you.
Amazing Video
Question. If you want to train for MMA and want to have Wrestling as your strongest background. Should you first go to an MMA gym and train striking, bjj AND WRESTLING (whilst prioritising your wrestling) or should you only train in PURE WRESTLING FIRST before transitioning? I really wanna know.
Lovely soundtrack on this one 🕺
Thanks. Drum 'n' bass rules.
Great points! Thank you
Awesome video!
Thank you. :)
THIS IS GOLD
This is awesome thank you!
This was too good, man! Thanks a bunch!
Thank you, glad you like it. :)
great video!
Thanks.
Thank You🙌👊🔥🔥🔥💯
After watching this hopefully I won't hurt my back again,this helped a lot,thanks!!!!!
Having a proper form is sometimes not enough - injuries can still happen if your back is weak.
Whenever I drill a lot of double legs or do other kinds of lifting, and my back and abs are not in shape, I usually get a light injury.
The solution is to do back extensions and situps every day. Start with 2-3 sets of 10-15 reps and hold the back extension on the last rep and count to 10 slowly.
This always does the trick and then my back are injury free.
You have to consult your doctor first in case you have a more serious injury like a herniated disc.
I might do a video in the future about this...
Thank you!
I've also seen people (e.g. fedor) finish a high double by cutting the angle, is it sensible to combine the frontal offbalancing high double (I guess classical morote gari in judo) with the angle cut finish (arguably te guruma)? I've noticed that the drop-step double I learned in MMA is hard to defend in part because of this direction change.
guird4 Yes, of course you can do that. Start high and cut the corner.
thanks for replying!
I really like the high double leg at the end. I find I run through but they just don't go down. Where do I wrap my arms?
Around the legs. ;)
You can wrap them high up just under the butt, or lower. Either way make sure they are wrapped (deep grip), and not touching with hands only.
Which striking background is best for setting up takedowns? Taekwondo, Boxing, Muay thai, Karate, Sanda, Kickboxing etc.
That depends a lot on the person and other factors.
GSP has the best shoot in the business and he says that his Karate background helped him a lot with timing the double leg. Which would be logical if he was a Shotokan practitioner (because the have those blitz types of attacks). But he was a Kyokushin fighter so it is a bit confusing to me because they mostly stand and bang.
Sanda is not a pure striking art, but incorporates takedowns as well. Muay Thai also has takedowns but they are mostly done from the clinch.
It doesn't matter what your background in striking is because you can learn how to take people down with enough training and effort.
MMA Coach ok how about boxing? And which one should I train in since I don't have a striking background and would love to use takedowns in mma when I start fighting?
MMA Coach ok how about boxing? And which one should I train in since I don't have a striking background and would love to use takedowns in mma when I start fighting?
Boxing is great and it is the most used striking art in MMA. The best way to connect striking and takedowns is either by slipping the punch and going for the takedown or by setting up takedowns with punches.
So start learning boxing and pay close attention to head movement (slips, weaves...).
MMA Coach thanks.
Very good!
+Gustavo Cardoso dos Santos Thanks.:)
Great advice. New sub here.
CRUCIAL QUESTION: If you want to train for MMA and want to have Wrestling as your strongest background. Should you first go to an MMA gym and train striking, bjj AND WRESTLING (whilst prioritising your wrestling) or should you only train in PURE WRESTLING FIRST for some time before transitioning to MMA? I really wanna know.
enrol in a wrestling gym first. train it for about a year and then start MMA. so you wont have alot of problems with your wrestling. but i perefer judo or juijutsu instead of wrestling cause there is submissions and self defences in judo and juijitsu as well.
Can you do one for a different type of takedown?
Good stuff!
Thanks Sean, glad you like it. :)
At the beginning of the action, do you recommend to faint with hands up ☝ ?? Thanks
There are many ways to set the double leg up, with or without hands up. I teach the offensive and the defensive setups (just how I call them). Offensive - preparing the entry with the punch. Defnesive - preparing the entry with the slip. To learn more about it, check out MMA: Essential Lessons part 1 and 2: www.mmacoach.net/store
And you can use faints of course.
this is a good video and I have mma exam next week but one thing caught my eye is that you leave your head out laying it on opponents side, might not be such a good idea because you could easily get guillotine done on you? Our coach always tells us to keep our head inside and laying it on their chest
There are many variations of the double leg and several head positions (outside, inside, on the chest). It is not incorrect and if you drive hard sideways during the takedown and clear the legs, getting guillotined is difficult.
Thanks I've learned many good technics from your lesson..only i want you advise me shall i start with other martil arts first before then mma or start mma straight ?? please reply me thanks again
You can start with MMA or with other martial arts. It doesn't matter.
@@MMACoach79 ok thanks mark but i love mma.. bjj.. judo..muay thai i don't know with one i chose it😞😟
good stuff
Those judo counters were beautiful. More reason for me not to try to hit a sloppy throw I barely know lol
I can't let you get close!
Chael!
Thanks a lot from France, it's very instructive.
You've talking about Judo , do you think it's a great tool in MMA ?
It can be if a judoka learns how to modify it for MMA. Everybody knows how to defend single and double legs (not saying those will not work anyway), but not a lot of people know how to deal with some specific judo throws as they have never experienced them before.
Wrestling is better for MMA, but it will depend on the individual also.
How do you breakfall with double leg attacks? I'm not a fan of double legs as I feel they take too long and a lot of energy
Finally somebody with REAL wrestling knowledge speaks up on the double-leg in MMA. So many of the people you hear from are BJJ guys who do a loose half-hearted adaptation and it's become the dominant perception of double-leg takedowns in mainstream fighting fandom.
Thank you. The Main difference are the setups and stance.
I have a simple question regarding doing double leg takedown in MMA situation. Please don't crap on me for how simple it is. When my opponent has his left leg forward, what are the advantages and disadvantages of shooting for a double leg where my head goes to the right side of his body? Versus the left side of his body? Thank you.
It's a good question. I call that far side (hip) double leg. Most fighters shoot with the head aiming for the near hip, and there is nothing wrong with that. The disadvantage if we can call it that is that people expect it and have drilled the double leg defense against it many times. Double leg defense is probably the most drilled takedown defense.
Far side double leg can of course also be defended, but sometimes people expect the near side double, sprawl accordingly which many times means twisting their body to the side and spreading legs. That can actually aid the attacker since his head goes on the "wrong side". And there are several ways to finish it.
Check out this video that showcases TJ Dilllashaw's far side doubles:
th-cam.com/video/In47i85tfEw/w-d-xo.html
@@MMACoach79 I think every takedown that Khabib ever did in UFC he put the right side of his head against his opponent's R hip. I dont recall Khabib ever putting the left side of his head against his opponent's left hip?
@@MMACoach79 I think a video on when you would choose to do a near-side double? and when you would choose to do a far-side double? would be very helpful. And the advantages and disadvantages of both. Thank you for considering.
You called Sanda as Sansho, classy af
0:30 A
Muy Bien!!
Someone can help me with this please. My coach told me that is not the best way to put the knee on the floor but is very difficult for me to do the take down I need a council please and thanks for the video
Super helpful! I am pretty guilty of all these mistakes :)
+orthodoxyn No worries. Just follow the guidelines and you'll master it in time.
Super 👍👍👍👍👍
what is the name of the judo move that you used? thanks btw
Daesung Kim Harai goshi.
harai goshi
Awesooomeee!!!
Thank you.
Which kind editor did this?
Software? Premiere Pro.
I wish I had known about shooting in from closer a long time ago. I suppose if you're Kurt Angle or Sean Sherk you can get away with it but there's just so much time for your opponent to react. Most people that try it are going to have their takedowns stuffed or run into a knee.
Being closer to your opponent makes the double leg increases the chances of success, but it doesn't guarantee it. It is still possible to hit it from further away, but it is quite unlikely.
this video is kind of old, but thaaaank you
But still relevant. You're welcome.
@@MMACoach79 for sure! I meant like i wasnt expecting you to see my comment lol!
The only guy I seen get take downs from really far away was KHabib agains Connor, after connor threw a kick, KHabib distanced, then shot in shockingly deep from far away.
But otherwise I haven't seen it against anyone good.
Now I know how to do a double takedown I'm gonna use it
I'm glad I could be of assistance.
Shooting for takedowns with one hand would actually be a good training drill to improve takedown accuracy.
It helped me A LOT. Before my injury, I rarely got the double to work. When shooting with one arm, your penetration step has to be on point in order for the takedown to work.
Awesome
Thank you.
I make mistake N3 how can i learn the proper way ???
Ivan Koev What you want is to make a sliding motion when penetrating. Just like a child decending on a slide.
I might release a takedown instructional soon. You can see the details there.
It will be really useful :) I am new to martial arts but i know that the results will come sooner or later :)))
Ivan Koev The results will come but you need to be patient and practice dilligently.
Here is what you can do before i release a takedown instructional: go to mmacoach.net/free-mma-course/ and sign up for our FREE mma course. There you have two more double leg videos, although they are not the low double leg that you're looking for. They are mostly about the high double.
mee too bro
Double leg takedown for MMA