1) It has a 180 degree crank, not 270, which is why a lot of people complain about the exhaust. 2) Apart from the sticker removal, which I did almost immediately on mine, the only upgrade you should consider is the suspension. The main reason everyone says it's boring is because it's so easy to ride relatively fast on the road. The ergonomic riding position, low center of gravity & meaty engine make it easy to get off the line & attack corners at speed. I've done 95,000+km on my '06 model & have never come across a bike that I can't keep up with in the twisties on a Sunday ride.
I 100% agree! I have the same engine and the low end torque is INSANE!! the fact is most people don't know, or can't handle the torque. They complain that is too sensitive or has a jumpy throttle... but I love it!
@@askaryanpulse5755that's because they are. It's a side effect of them running so lean. The throttle jerking you around has nothing to do with torque. Now, when you wack the throttle in 1st gear at about 5k-6k rpm and you lift the front wheel off the ground in 1st and 2nd, that's torque.
I never understand when people say the Ninja is boring. I mean, the bike is far more capable than most of the capability of the owners to get from is. Sure, it sounds like a sewing machine from beside it, but the induction noise when riding is decent. Has decent pick up speed, easy enough to fling into corners, it's just a solid bike. The things I have done to mine are simple things we can all do. Puig levers, changed the rider's footpegs, the wind screen, better tires, heated grips (Canadian rider need into November and December) and looking at lever guards. That is something I didn't think about until recently when someone almost cut into me and came within maybe a foot or less of contacting the brake lever. I swerved easy enough but it made me think about the "what if". If contact was made with the front brake, I'd have a bad day. But at the end of the day, the changes are mostly cosmetic to personalize. The day I feel I can get more out of the bike than it has, I will get a different bike. As it is, most of us would struggle to get the 400 to its limits, never mind the 650.
@@Mihalyofficial Don't take my word for it, I don't own it, but I've heard multiple people say stock tires are bad. In any case, I would change the tires to THE BEST I can find on market. No use of risking it.
@@Mihalyofficial I found the rubber footpegs not grippy enough for any sort of sporty riding or if it was raining. They were just slippy to me. The tires were fine, not great but OK. I got a slow leak in the front, so I decided to change both. The Road 5's are awesome tires. Better dry and wet than the stock, but not enough that I would have changed them without having to. There's nothing really wrong with any of the stock parts, except the rubber pegs. I did not like those at all.
Solid video man! I've seen the moore mafia guy and was curious about a customers' experience ... after my exhaust install I'll definitely be signing up for the tune Link the exhaust video in your description!
There are all kinds of people who like these. I've had 9 other motorcycles ranging from 125cc's up to 117 ci so it's not just a bike people want to move up from or try to get something more exciting from. More and more manufacturers are going to a bike with comfortable ergo's and a naked bike like stance. If you want a new middle weight motorcycle that has supersport looks but standard or naked bike ergo's there is the Aprilia Tuono 660, Honda CBR650R, or Ninja 650
My only complaint about my 650 which I’ve owned for almost a year is just how quiet it is but other than that I completely love the bike. It’s the perfect beginner bike and I always get compliments on it
Still waiting for the clip of your exhaust 😭 Feel like you’re talking down on it a bit too much but to each their own. One question, when you were talking about opening up the throttle. Is this the reason that when I max out my 650 it doesn’t even reach redline? And Would tuning it allow me to go a bit faster/have more power?
I totally forgot to put the clip in there! A video of the exhaust is up on my channel! I love the Ninja 650, it’s just hard to for me act like it’s perfect because there are so many good bikes out there. Motorcycles have come a long way 😂
@@BryantintheMidfield lol all good. Fair enough. i bet youre right. Its my first bike ive had it for over a year and still enjoying it very much. Great first bike!
The apologetics are the "boring" aspect. Anyone who decided on a particular bike and cc class, should never be apologetic about it. That's embarrassing. This is what separates a motorcycle lover from a self-conscious, insecure Kardashian fashion statement. Fact is, marketers push the idea of "stepping stones" toward higher displacement, as a gateway drug. In reality, bigger bikes that aren't 400cc, 650cc, 300cc etc. can't give you the same ride/experience (and vice/versa).
What about the clip of what it sounds like? I have a two brothers exhaust on my R6. My brother is getting a ninja 650 and I was gonna recommend him to get a 2 brothers exhaust kit for it but idk what it sounds like
I agree exhaust doesn’t do much but the flash is important for throttle response. I just feel like a good exhaust sound helps make it more fun and makes you feel more involved! I didn’t mention suspension because IMO this bike isn’t worth spending tons of money to dial in or setup for the track. I do agree it’s cheaper to upgrade what you have rather than buying a whole new bike though!
What kind of riding do you do? Commute or go to the twisty roads to have fun? I commute and I am often riding in wet, so Michelin Road 5's (road 6 now available and better) are on there now now and they're awesome for that and do pretty well in twisty roads for weekend fun. If your main use is fun twisty rides, Rosso IV would be the one's I'd go with. I have the 2017 Ninja 650 and the Michelin's have been on for about 17k km. Front tire will need to be replaced in another 2 or 3k but rear is still pretty decent tread life left. Both the Rosso and Roads are a bit expensive, but they're damn good and worth it. Just the Rosso's won't last as long. Hope that helps.
I love my Angel GT's, not the Angel GT 2 (front tire midline tread grabs those pesky highway pavement grooves the DOT likes to put in them for some reason)
@@BryantintheMidfield yes that’s the only Thing I don’t like about the bike I’m thinking of changing it for a Aprilla Tuono factory 660 that sounds awesome great induction noise
@@BryantintheMidfield yes that’s the only Thing I don’t like about the bike I’m thinking of changing it for a Aprilla Tuono factory 660 that sounds awesome great induction noise
@@BryantintheMidfield dont get me wrong i love mine but i agree i got bored after the first like 500 miles lol forced me to find some good twisties to ease the boredom xD
I have a 2019 ninja 650 and im sometimes refueling and it leaks at the bottom petcock when it still needs some gas was wondering if you knew anything about it 🤔
I’m not a motorcycle expert but I didn’t know they had a petcock? 😂 I know it’s rare on fuel injected bikes and unless idk what a petcock is, the new Ninjas don’t have them.
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1) It has a 180 degree crank, not 270, which is why a lot of people complain about the exhaust. 2) Apart from the sticker removal, which I did almost immediately on mine, the only upgrade you should consider is the suspension.
The main reason everyone says it's boring is because it's so easy to ride relatively fast on the road. The ergonomic riding position, low center of gravity & meaty engine make it easy to get off the line & attack corners at speed. I've done 95,000+km on my '06 model & have never come across a bike that I can't keep up with in the twisties on a Sunday ride.
What suspension would you suggest?
I 100% agree! I have the same engine and the low end torque is INSANE!! the fact is most people don't know, or can't handle the torque. They complain that is too sensitive or has a jumpy throttle... but I love it!
@@askaryanpulse5755that's because they are. It's a side effect of them running so lean. The throttle jerking you around has nothing to do with torque. Now, when you wack the throttle in 1st gear at about 5k-6k rpm and you lift the front wheel off the ground in 1st and 2nd, that's torque.
Boring? LOL bike is never boring, rider is - improve your riding skills that's the key.
Truth, brother
I've been trying to figure out why all the videos say this bike is "boring"
@@xb5883 because its 650cc and makes less than 70hp
Guess I’m boring. I’m definitely bored of my 650 and haven’t owned it 2 months.
@@ghostgunner27 brutal, time to upgrade. Try a 4 cylinder
I never understand when people say the Ninja is boring. I mean, the bike is far more capable than most of the capability of the owners to get from is. Sure, it sounds like a sewing machine from beside it, but the induction noise when riding is decent. Has decent pick up speed, easy enough to fling into corners, it's just a solid bike.
The things I have done to mine are simple things we can all do.
Puig levers, changed the rider's footpegs, the wind screen, better tires, heated grips (Canadian rider need into November and December) and looking at lever guards. That is something I didn't think about until recently when someone almost cut into me and came within maybe a foot or less of contacting the brake lever. I swerved easy enough but it made me think about the "what if". If contact was made with the front brake, I'd have a bad day.
But at the end of the day, the changes are mostly cosmetic to personalize. The day I feel I can get more out of the bike than it has, I will get a different bike. As it is, most of us would struggle to get the 400 to its limits, never mind the 650.
Boggles my mind too. I mean it has like under 4 seconds 0-100km/h. That's super car territory for going on two wheels.
Why did you change the footpegs? And what about the stock tires? Are they not good?
@@Mihalyofficial Don't take my word for it, I don't own it, but I've heard multiple people say stock tires are bad. In any case, I would change the tires to THE BEST I can find on market.
No use of risking it.
@@Mihalyofficial I found the rubber footpegs not grippy enough for any sort of sporty riding or if it was raining. They were just slippy to me.
The tires were fine, not great but OK. I got a slow leak in the front, so I decided to change both. The Road 5's are awesome tires. Better dry and wet than the stock, but not enough that I would have changed them without having to.
There's nothing really wrong with any of the stock parts, except the rubber pegs. I did not like those at all.
Love my 650.
Same bro ride safe
Solid video man! I've seen the moore mafia guy and was curious about a customers' experience ... after my exhaust install I'll definitely be signing up for the tune
Link the exhaust video in your description!
Hey matt, have you sent in your ECU yet? How much was it?? Let me know man
There are all kinds of people who like these. I've had 9 other motorcycles ranging from 125cc's up to 117 ci so it's not just a bike people want to move up from or try to get something more exciting from. More and more manufacturers are going to a bike with comfortable ergo's and a naked bike like stance. If you want a new middle weight motorcycle that has supersport looks but standard or naked bike ergo's there is the Aprilia Tuono 660, Honda CBR650R, or Ninja 650
Mirror block off plates look cool
My only complaint about my 650 which I’ve owned for almost a year is just how quiet it is but other than that I completely love the bike. It’s the perfect beginner bike and I always get compliments on it
then how do you fix it's quietness?
Still waiting for the clip of your exhaust 😭
Feel like you’re talking down on it a bit too much but to each their own.
One question, when you were talking about opening up the throttle. Is this the reason that when I max out my 650 it doesn’t even reach redline? And Would tuning it allow me to go a bit faster/have more power?
I totally forgot to put the clip in there! A video of the exhaust is up on my channel! I love the Ninja 650, it’s just hard to for me act like it’s perfect because there are so many good bikes out there. Motorcycles have come a long way 😂
@@BryantintheMidfield lol all good. Fair enough. i bet youre right. Its my first bike ive had it for over a year and still enjoying it very much. Great first bike!
The apologetics are the "boring" aspect.
Anyone who decided on a particular bike and cc class, should never be apologetic about it. That's embarrassing.
This is what separates a motorcycle lover from a self-conscious, insecure Kardashian fashion statement.
Fact is, marketers push the idea of "stepping stones" toward higher displacement, as a gateway drug. In reality, bigger bikes that aren't 400cc, 650cc, 300cc etc. can't give you the same ride/experience (and vice/versa).
Where’s the clip of the exhaust
What about the clip of what it sounds like? I have a two brothers exhaust on my R6. My brother is getting a ninja 650 and I was gonna recommend him to get a 2 brothers exhaust kit for it but idk what it sounds like
I completely forgot the clip 😅 I have a video of it on my channel if you want to check that out! I used a yeti microphone so it’s pretty good quality!
@@BryantintheMidfield yeah I am definitely going 4o recommend he gets that exhaust kit and gets his ecu flashed
Ninja 650 is a nice bike but the engine is a real let down - wouldn't consider making it any louder.
Exhausts do nothing to improve the performance. Spending that $700-$800 on the suspension would be the best place to spend it.
I agree exhaust doesn’t do much but the flash is important for throttle response. I just feel like a good exhaust sound helps make it more fun and makes you feel more involved! I didn’t mention suspension because IMO this bike isn’t worth spending tons of money to dial in or setup for the track. I do agree it’s cheaper to upgrade what you have rather than buying a whole new bike though!
@@BryantintheMidfield I upgrade just forks springs with heavy duty and put thicker fork oil now the suspension are little bit more stiff
You most definitely do get gains from doing the exhaust, unless you made yours out of a can of beer.
I didn’t retain the plate light when I removed the fender. Much less boring (:
What will be good set of tires that you recommend?
What kind of riding do you do? Commute or go to the twisty roads to have fun? I commute and I am often riding in wet, so Michelin Road 5's (road 6 now available and better) are on there now now and they're awesome for that and do pretty well in twisty roads for weekend fun. If your main use is fun twisty rides, Rosso IV would be the one's I'd go with.
I have the 2017 Ninja 650 and the Michelin's have been on for about 17k km. Front tire will need to be replaced in another 2 or 3k but rear is still pretty decent tread life left.
Both the Rosso and Roads are a bit expensive, but they're damn good and worth it. Just the Rosso's won't last as long.
Hope that helps.
I love my Angel GT's, not the Angel GT 2 (front tire midline tread grabs those pesky highway pavement grooves the DOT likes to put in them for some reason)
4K on those tires!? Yeah it’s getting slippery lol
It has a 180 degree crank
Good catch! I was dreaming of a better sounding bike I guess 😂
@@BryantintheMidfield yes that’s the only Thing I don’t like about the bike I’m thinking of changing it for a Aprilla Tuono factory 660 that sounds awesome great induction noise
@@BryantintheMidfield yes that’s the only Thing I don’t like about the bike I’m thinking of changing it for a Aprilla Tuono factory 660 that sounds awesome great induction noise
Hello!! Sorry, whats the windscreen in your ninja? Its the Z - racing puig one??
Yeah it is! Whatever the tallest Puig windscreen was on revzilla!
I’m got a 22 wit the full toce
Stage 2 engine, new muffler, smaller front sprocket for top speed, and suspension it'll compete with a 600 lol actually mines destroys a 600
You dont like the bike?
It’s not that I don’t like the bike, it just gets boring quick imo. It’s a great bike but not a ton of character
I just got it i love it… do you know if theres a sport mode
@@BryantintheMidfield dont get me wrong i love mine but i agree i got bored after the first like 500 miles lol forced me to find some good twisties to ease the boredom xD
Try poppin some wheelies on her.
Mine comes up NICE in 2nd.
It’s as exciting as you make it BruV 👌
@@1MaximusDecimusMeridius1 Do you have any quick tips for stuff like that? 😅 Im not that guy lol
I have a 2019 ninja 650 and im sometimes refueling and it leaks at the bottom petcock when it still needs some gas was wondering if you knew anything about it 🤔
I’m not a motorcycle expert but I didn’t know they had a petcock? 😂 I know it’s rare on fuel injected bikes and unless idk what a petcock is, the new Ninjas don’t have them.
That's the overfill drain line must likely. Finish the fill slowly and stop below where the tank lock fits down into it to avoid spillage. 💯🏍️💨
Everyone says these are boring? I own a z650 and never get bored. Only cöck riding liter bike fan boys say this.
what cage do you recommend for the 650 i cant find any reviews anywhere
Check out Impaktech
@@Aceuki1 theirs don't fit got the right one for my bike ended up not fitting so i went with one local to me called new breed stunt parts
Crazy Iron makes a great cage. A bit pricey. But in my opinion. I think it's worth it
@@lennymontalbano2398 crazy iron & r gaza cages fit the 650 (ive tried both and both are decent)
$200.00 ECU flash😉
180deg crank
First thing stickers:)) mate you have to make quickshifter first but you do lots of unnecessary things unless quickshifter. Come on
THE RIDER IS BORING😅
It sounds like a lawnmower. Much like the 250,300, 400.