The Controversial Olofboost
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 เม.ย. 2018
- What if you had a secret strategy that was so unprecedented, so dominant, that using it might not be worth it? When you finally used it, and it paid off, how would you feel?
Counter-Strike has always been a strategic game. But those strategies also evolve, even on maps that have been around forever.
Boosting has always been part of that.
But the boost that Fnatic used at DreamHack Winter 2014 on Overpass was different.
Now immortalized in graffiti on Overpass, the boost is a reminder of the power of ingenuity, the pressure faced by esports athletes, and the grey area between what is possible and what is acceptable.
Written by Josh Bury (@ThrownGauntlet)
Edited by Paul Park (@phjpark)
Hosted by Daniel Rosen (@Daniel_Rosen)
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#CSGreatestGames Episode 1: "Boostgate"
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DreamHack Winter - NiP Xizt: "Fnatic's boost was a dirty trick"
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Hiko n0thing and Troubley on Fnatic vs LDLC ‘Pixelwalking’
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#BoostGate! Fnatic boost vs LDLC Dreamhack Quarterfinals
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Thorin's Thoughts - Revisiting the FNATIC-LDLC Boost (CS:GO)
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CS:GO fnatic pixelboost vs LDLC (quarterfinal) DreamHack winter 2014
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I think the saying goes "don't hate the player, hate the game."
True
Benjamin Spankowski actually, i think it goes “i love that song from phoon”
My boy phoon
ADMIN THEYRE BOOSTING
@@CuroxX The lyrics of that one are actually the opposite iirc
Ldlc: *does a boost*
Fnatic: ok
Fnatic: *does a 300IQ boost*
Ldlc: hEy tHaTs iLlEgAl tHeY ArEn’T AlLoWed tO Do tHaT
Both teams were punished for their respective boosts. Just Fnatic decided by their own to forfeit.
@@mr_exia Fnatic would kind of be fighting a losing battle really. In replaying the match, everyone is happy except them. Angry fans and commenters feel vindicated in their opinions that Fnatic's boost was unfair, and LDLC get a free redo to try and move on in tournament, while Fnatic can only lose out.
If they win, they had to play a whole extra match under stressful conditions which they would likely feel a bit pessimistic about - you would too if you won something and then were told it didn't count, this time for real. And if they lose, they continue to receive hate and ridicule because people will say they only won because of the boost - not thinking about the practice and labbing to even figure that boost out and make it effective.
I can understand the decision to forfeit, it kind of also acts as a statement that they don't agree with the ruling and the way the situation was handled.
@@Kiryienka97 "if they lose, they continue to receive hate and ridicule because people will say they only won because of the boost" Yup, because it's exactly what happened. They got completely destroyed until they used it.
"a statement that they don't agree with the ruling and the way the situation was handled"
Strange, as Fnatic had had more influence than LDLC ont that case , who was forced to leave the event building for 3 hours by the...Swedish organizer while Fnatic a .... Swedish team, could stay and talk with them quietly.
fnatic abused the boost spot until they won.. but yeah good point
@@mr_exia why did fnatic forfeit, kid??
Boost was rightfully removed, but Fnatic should have been crowned the victor of this match without controversy.
If it was rightfully removed then fnatic shoulda replayed. It was 13-3, i can tell you fnatic didnt deserve to win
@@dr.cranium9080 so since LDLC also used a boost of that nature they shoulnd't have won either?
@@snonsig2688 fnatic had the option to replay the match, but they didn't. also note that, although the LDLC boost was illegal, it didn't do shit compared to the olafboost (which was a gamebreaker)
@@dr.cranium9080 as i recall fnatic proposed the rematch but LDLC denied
Dibs Migee If you cheat but it doesn’t get you anywhere you still cheated buddy. Fnatic shoulda taken the dub
I love the olofpass, its extremely iconic and it was a big brain play.
Would you still love it if you had to play against it
@@dr.cranium9080 if i have to play againts a creative take on a game mechanic that had been implemented and used for years in the game? i would only be mad at myself for not doing it and yes i would still love it
@@schia696 its not really creative, fnatic just went on reddit my dude
@@dr.cranium9080 literally no one knew about it beside fnatic (presumably), and they won because of it? that's creative or atleast clever in my book
@@dr.cranium9080 if its on reddit how did the other team not know, or even the game dev lol
imo one of the greatest moments in CS:GO history lol
oh shut up nadeking. you are getting annoying. like a leech commenting every single video.
Easy visibility
rfyaaful so what it not your video anyway
Nadeking again?😂
Worst *
Sun tzu taught us to know every advantage before a battle.
Csgo is about a competition, not a full blown war. Esports are a place to show how skilled you are, not how many exploits you can unfairly used. From fanatic, which was crowned #1, im deeply dissapointed in them
@@dr.cranium9080 their boost wasn't an exploit lol
@spades if they used their brains they wouldn't have been in a 13-3 situation.
a smart play involves more than a map exploit. if u call this a smart play then the pixelboost (olafboost) shouldn't have been banned. (cough cough but it actually got banned because this boost would make overpass games so CT sided nobody would play them cough cough)
@@shhs1227 whatever you wanna call it
@spades again, banned fixed wtvr u wanna call it dude-also it was deemed illegal (unfair, wtvr idc what u wanna call it) . Since ya think its legit and fair, would you have kept the olafboost in the game? 😕
Why is it that everytime players break from the mold in a game by figuring something out for themselves, people always end up hating it, saying its cheating or cheap?
Carlo Tolentino because the game is more fun to watch with 2 teams on even footing to see who’s “better”
@@Da5kone001 Fnatic IS better, they probably played that single map for god knows how many hours straight to find the boost.
Youre saying it isnt fair for someone who invented a way to get a cube root of any number manually within 10 seconds to join a cube root competition because they wont do it the "original" way.
IncinerateZ it’s literally against the rules , why are pixel boosts against the rules in the first place? Because they are not the intentional way to play the game just like any other rule finding a pixel boost doesn’t display skill idk how you ever justify that statement
@@Da5kone001 what rules ? do you even heard what the organizer said ? lol crybaby
@@Da5kone001 did you even watch the video? it wasnt ilegal back then
LDLC used the same texture bug no one pointed at them. Just made me like Olof even more
noone pointed cuz they lost and fnatic did it 10 times better but cs comunity is full of little bitches
They did though... it is why they were forced to replay the whole map instead of one half.
404Dannyboy that was mainly to save face
Omg ldlc used a texture bug that resulted in them getting 13-3, yeah ldlc is so unskilled. that boost they did carried them.
Ha. Truth is you're just being nitpicky. Also bear in mind that it would be literally impossible for ldlc to know that the boost was illegal. Most of the audience, and even YOU, my kind sir would never have known it was illegal if this game was never covered.
@@dr.cranium9080 "Nope, you are nitpicking and biased, I win, bye bye"
>LDLC uses an illegal boost
>LDLC gets the lead
>Fanatic tries to make a comeback with a boost of the same nature that LDLC struggles with
>Fanatic gets shit for using something people whined about to help them win
>Both boosts are retroactively deemed illegal at the same time
>LDLC refuses to replay
Honestly, if Fanatic was actually affected by this in the long-term, I'd be pissed. I can't believe anyone actually willing to watch high-level play would have their heads this far up their asses. Good on Fanatic for sticking it through.
Ur blocked kid... FNATIC* NOT FANATIC ...
Psycho Ke3e1 cant handle the truth huh
I see no issue for both teams using boosts infact i admire the time and work they put up with fir discovering such a boost... They deserved the win... After all it is all legal...
What do you expect from the French??
They are cowards as always!
@Dr Yuu so is Asia omegalul
I don't understand, so LDLC used a pixelboost in the first round and didn't get punished for it, Fnatic used a pixel boost later and got punished for it because they succeeded from it? How is that fair?
pixel boost wasnt against rules, did you even watch the video?
So why did Fnatic get punished for it?
@@3amcucumbertech texture bug, so did ldlc
kidda they were going to get the same punishment, replaying the map. Fnatic forfeited after they were made out to be the bad guys and didn't want the negative attention
Not replay the map, replay the second half, where fnatic was down 12-3.
When they found that boost in practice they probably felt like genius CS innovators, and then to have community backlash on that level... That had to be hell.
They didn"t found that boost, a redit user did and fnatic asked him to remove his post so it stay under the radar before the competition
its old boost everyone knew about but was patched, so they figured a new way to reproduce boost
@@_Marabout_ damn dude, thx for telling me i actually didnt know
Not being sarcastic btw. Fr. Damn.
@@_Marabout_ lmao send me proof then
@@_Marabout_ check yo seld kid
Idk, LDLC just got outplayed in my opinion. But yes, the map should've been patched afterwards, which was done. But fanatic deserved the win.
outplayed no, LDLC were outplaying them prior. Maybe outsmarted you could say
@@NeedMoarRage technically LDLC didn't outplay F'natic before the OlofBoost because LDLC used a pixelboost aswell... Watch the video hater
Well, when you have a 13-3 score you can tell me who got outplayed
@Joe Ç so the "higher level" of csgo is now using map exploits?
@@dr.cranium9080 they simply used legally allowed at the time game mechanics to get the upper hand and also you talk like exploits take no skill to find and practice
Legendary moment in Counter Strike history. Not a waste at all. They renamed it to olofpass with a single boost. That is incredible!
Karlsenn well they didn’t rename it
Zer0 Gaming wrong
@@yungtoothgaming9725 the community renamed it and that's what matters. The community keeps the game alive
I don't care what anybody says. The boost was so entertaining to watch.
Astro agreed I loved it
Yes it was alot of fun to watch and the excitement in Anders voice was great as well.
Astro Entertaining but none the less bullshit,
NarniaFan27 how is it bullshit? It's a boost lmao there fault for not catching on
which mean the fnatic prepared better than LDLC. For those shit talk about this boost was just not have enough information/knowledge/research for the map. lose is a lose even its about a bug. so take oppoturnity from the bug next time its not gonna be there again. so if u lose this time better thinking about winning next time.
It's not cheating, it's called better knowledge of the map.
it wasnt even in the rule books before but ppl just want to cry
@@darkseer100 it was in the rulebook. Solid textures didn't load and were invisible. This was against dreamhack rules for both ldlc and fnatic's boosts.
@@404Dannyboy did you watch the video???? 8:20 watch it pls pls pls
@@darkseer100 those are the rules from 2014 which the dreamhack guy says were no longer 8n use in the very next shot... I mean, did you watch the video?
@@404Dannyboylmao what. The dude literally said it wasn't illegal because the old rules from dreamhack 2013 got revised and the new one in 2014 allowed pixel boosting.
this is pathetic. i was there seeing this match when it was on. This is genuinely one of the most glorious and historic moments of cs history. and yes its an op boost but its not like the other teams will never play ct side so that argument is moot. as far as its usage in that specific game "they found the boost, they made it work, and stood like a wall when LDLC did come through the boost" it's a competitive game you aren't supposed to win by some manuel if you find something that works then the ball is on the other team to find a counter start for it.
I agree. I've been watching pro CS since 2002 and this moment deserved to be memorized as one of, if the THE greatest in all of CS history. It's a damn shame the amount of hate fnatic got for it and that they were not allowed to progress to the next round after pulling off something truly historic and memorable. Thinking outside of the box should be celebrated, not punished.
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Parikshit Rao preach
this is pathetic. i was there seeing this match when it was on. This is genuinely one of the most glorious and historic moments of cs history. and yes its an op boost but its not like the other teams will never play ct side so that argument is moot. as far as its usage in that specific game "they found the boost, they made it work, and stood like a wall when LDLC did come through the boost" it's a competitive game you aren't supposed to win by some manuel if you find something that works then the ball is on the other team to find a counter start for it.
They probably lost alot of money because of it
If LDLC used an illegal boost on the very first round, then the game should be restarted from 0-0 not 12-3.
either 0-0 or let fnatic win
The game was set to restart at 0-0 you dumbass but ldlc cried like small little bitches on social media. Get your facts straight
Double standards
秦始皇Qin ShiHuang
LDLC's boost did shit in comparison to fnatics.
So? Are you saying that if someone hacks and it has no impact he shouldnt be banned?
LDLC was salty
Dude. It's csgo
Lol fnatic have been salty their whole carrier
@Joe Ç you have to practice smokes. In such a split second shit move by fnatic they didnt have time. Try smoking that position without practicing it-its impossible
Joe Ç where tf could they have smoked for that
You'd be too if you had to fight an unwinnable game. The salt was there, but believe me it was fucking justified
Seems like a legit strat. Map knowledge is power
LDLC did it first. Wtf. Fanatic won through and through. No. No issue. No debate. Don’t cry. What a bad community.
Darkside780 This is what’s gonna destroy the CSGO in the long run. They just can’t let someone have an amazing comeback without backlash
Csgo is well known for having a shitty community after League of legends
First time playing CSGO, immediately met with earrape, toxicity, and racial slurs in mic chat. Very prominent.
I play CSGO so bear with me but did they win 13 rounds in a row? Lmao even if the boost was “illegal” how are you not gonna adapt
@@sn0wdon fnatic backed out cos of death threats, and ldlc dont want a rematch, they want a replay of the 2nd half without boost or win by default, get your facts right please
de_olofpass
Double Scotch saying the same thing you heard in the video is so cool and funny definitely worth 400 likes I agree
Well, almost everyone named their Scout as "Olofpass". Including myself.
@@basedmoment 2.1k
@@truedarklander holy shit im so glad the guy got the recognition he deserved, i always felt sad bc he didnt get enough
@@basedmoment xd
I don't even play CS:GO but I still watch all of these videos lmao
Joey Martinez same here.
Do you think this was cheating or genius gameplay?
clever use of game mechanics. i think there's a texture bug that doesn't allow the enemy team to see the person being boosted, but that falls on the devs to fix.
Joey Martinez same dude
Joey Martinez same at OP and same analysis of the situation
This was just one of the greatest plays of all time. And it was even 100% legit.
If its 100 percent legit then everyone should be allowed to do it. In practice this would make iverpass so ct sided nobody would play it. It wasnt fair balanced and thats why it why taken out
@@dr.cranium9080 Everyone is allowed to do it though? Nobody was stopping LDLC from using it. Same goes for the LDLC boost, by that logic anyone can use that right? You know how some games have glitches that do nothing to provide an advantage but still get patched out? The opposite can happen, its a clever boost they used and for some reason nobody else did. No rules said it was illegal, they followed all guidelines just as well as the opponents and were slandered for it.
i just dont get what is unfair about the boost, this was genius.
Did you watch the video? Damn
@@evanzhu2600 what do mean, as long as they aren't using hacks it's fine,it's the games fault, not theirs.
You said, "I just don't get what is unfair about the boost". I think that shown pretty well
@@evanzhu2600 it's not unfair if they're not hacking. It's just map knowledge. Fnatic had more of it
Map knowledge does not cover unfair advantages that are part of the fabric of a map
fnatic shouldn't have forfeit
It's about giving a statement not about a win always
@@anibrataghosh8978 Thing about it is, that due the forfeit, LDLC had to face no consequences for thier boost - Not in the community, nor the tournament.
Yes, the statement was important, but with that LDLC were "the good guys" even though they did the same, but actually less effective (which makes it better for the simple mind)
They should have played the game out and lost like actual pros.
what i see you here wtf
Yeah. Made them look guilty.
I see competition as a competition, to succeed you need skill and map knowledge, if theres a way to get the upper hand i see no reason to not use it, it was ingenious, i see someone saying, well they went out of their way to hide it from people so they could abuse it, to me thats the same as saying that all teams are required to release all their strategies so the playing field is level, any strategy should be kept secret to be abused thats the whole point, if teh enemy knows ur strategy then they can work around it defeating the strat. They arent evil, theyre human and smart.
Kory Burch yeah
Kory Burch Fnatic knew that the boost was definitely unintentional and only usable once as a surprise and that when they used it that it would soon be fixed. It may technically should have been legal to use it was just a get out of jail card only usable once but just cheap and dishonorable and I believe that fnatic deserved the backlash they received
Dillion McGee I’d say yes it was unintentional but unfair? The only reason it worked so well is because of how unknown it was, calling it unfair would imply that one team knowing certain aspects of the map the other team didn’t is automatically cheating, in reality they just knew the map better. The backlash they got was simply people who were: 1. upset that their team lost to a strat they didn’t know about and they didn’t stand a chance and 2. It was so one sided that logical thinking left the room
Dillion they received death threats because of it, and LDLC used a similar method so it should have either been totally replayed from 0-0 like the admins wanted or Fnatic should have won
it is an ace in the hole for fnatic. just cause nobody knows bout that strategy and everyone deemed it illegal. im not a fan of either team but what fnatic did was really smart and this was why LDLC was considered the second best at that time.
Dota 2 community:
*Fountain hook happens*
D2 players:”It was legendary”
CSGO community:
*Olof Boosts*
CSGO Players:”Wait, that’s illegal”
Loda: that's cheating
TBF, fountain hooking was pretty common knowledge but just very hard for most players to pull off, along with pudge being a really YOLO pick in competitive play. This boost legit confused the hell out of LDLC.
U r one of the few humans who understands both CS and DOTA
Still hate dendi to this day
It's what I remember, I remember salty people crying that it was unbalanced ....
Dude the olafboost was the highest iq play in csgo history! If any other team had figured it out, they would have used it
Bro that shit doesn't envolve IQ probably they discovered and was like wow we can see the whole map from here.
someone in the comments said they paid for the guy who discovered it. Not IQ just an exploit.
I'm new to csgo so let me get this straight.
Fnatic received backlash for using something which existed in the game and was not illegal?
I've lost all hope for this planet.
@austin hebert if you watched the video the pixel boost wasnt in the rule book that says it illegal..
@@lancenoh1579 yes, but there was a clipping issue that was visible by looking over the wall which let you see through some walls, both teams boost's displayed this bug, making both boosts illegal which is why they said the map would be replayed.
Same goes with Navi's fountain hook in Dota ...
Ric Daniel That was horseshit. 100% legal. Alliance tried to replicate it and couldnt, then they became extremely salty when NaVi were able to do it. It got patched after.
@@christiangregan9996 Yes. Anything ingame should be legal. Just like Dendi's and Puppey's hook combo.
These CSGO players are just crybabies. They are just completely living inside the box.
Honestly i thought both boosts were smart and intelligent to play. It took LDLC ages to figure our Fnatic's secret. However, if people complain and Fnatic for it, then they should find themselves on a hypocritical side. LDLC used a similar boost too that gave them an advantage. Some people just take a side instantly.
The Abyss ya I don't understand how they got in trouble for it but LDLC boost was totally fine. How fucking unfair is this shit like damn.
Chris Hills fuck gaben and valve shit community
I dunno, I think that it really doesn't matter how many times you use it, it's given you an advantage either way.
Alfred Gamer should not matter. Once is enough. I feel it should have been allowed as there was no rule on it. Just make a rule later on then.
The tournament officials didn't fuck fnatic they wanted a replay of the entire match but fnatic decided to forfeit instead
Fkin history for the cs go scene, shame they throw dirt to this beautiful moment. Its a strategy wtf? There is nothing wrong with it.
Fnatic didn't come up with the boost. Some guy on reddit did and fnatic asked the reddit user to keep quiet so that they could use the boost. Dirty. Just fucking dirty.
@@dr.cranium9080 Still don't see what's wrong with it. If the rules don't say anything about it, then it's legal.
Dibs Migee link or don’t use unproven “evidence”
@@CuroxX source: every video about the boost
this Dibz guy is too much of a crybaby 🤣
I remember watching this play out live and the atmosphere was insane when fnatic won. Def one of the most memorable esports moments regardless of whether you like them or not.
i don't even play cs and i like this moment.. isn't boosting a valid strat on many cs maps? really don't understand why their win is even questionable.
@@Orange-fj6oc this boost wasn't supposed to be possible also it was glitched so the other team cannot see the boosted guy no matter what
True
mohd nabeel yet both teams used it, one just got lucky with what spot they used it on, LDLC needs to man up
I like this moment as history, but I would be ashamed as a fnatic fan or player. It's not like they won because they were better, it was just a boost that was too overpower that valve didn't know about it.
pissess me off that smithZz pixelwalked first then when olof did it, it was evil. LDLC should have lost, SmithZz did it not knowing that fnatic even had a better boost.
Smiths pixeoost did little compared to olafs sniping right outside t spawn. One is groundbreaking, the other is a troll.
@@dr.cranium9080 both is pixelboosting. If SmithZz and Olof both cheated I think you wanted both to be banned. So why is one legal and the other is not
@@drizzelat8307 Both are illegal. That's why they were poised to replay the map, but then fnc forfeited.
@@aamgdp I know, but I wanted to knoe from @Dibs Migee why he thinks that LDLC is just a troll and maybe should not be punished
@@drizzelat8307 i think both shouldve been punished. I never said smith shouldve gone free. I just think olofs team shouldnt have won by default. Im replying to steve
tbh fnatic were just smarter, the other team shouldve just studied harder
some guy ok lol
some guy ok agreed!! i don't think why people hated them for being smarter.
some guy ok it's valve's fault anyway to not fix their maps' bugs issues.. if anyone is to be hated, it's valve
That's very simple, I figured it out as soon as I entered gaming. You see the gamer species is a result of a dumb mutation caused by mixing sheep CUM with man CUM. The moment something has picked up steam, everyone follows the herd. It's the same idiots who say cs 1.6 is better than go in every possible way!. They don't have their own eyes. As you said it's valve's fault, but they got away silently.
Here's another good example, GC prices. Idiot gamers (Not the few sane ones) hate on individual basement miners instead of just the mining companies. Whereas the mining companies and manufacturers are getting away with it. Infact the manufacturers who are the real crooks who market and fool the shit of gamers.
Oh then there's gaming headsets, earphones & chairs & the gaming mousepads from big name brands like steelseries & razor.
... what?
Soooo this was the fountain hook of csgo but instead of becoming legends they became villains
Legendary moment in CSGO, just like navi's fountain hook in Ti3
Lol, the better team would be able to adapt. They just got outsmarted
Although I think there is some kind of truth in your comment, I disagree with the second sentence.
Since only LDLC has been put in this rough situation, you can't say, that Fnatic is the better team, since they haven't been put in this situation for over 10 rounds.
@@sankai91 nah they got outsmarted, they couldn't figure out where he was firing from for ten rounds. That's just embarrassing, there's a reason you don't hear from LDLC anymore.
@@bobtom5138 you do forget that no one even noticed that "glitch" was there and note even professionals at the time didn't know it until they did and they used it to their best of ability. Try to figure out a area where no one even heard of and use it you would see the result that most players are going to be confused for many rounds. This goes for professionals to. They also have a graphic glitch that you can't see the player shots (aka the bright light coming out of your gun when you shoot) I mean they are genius's for coming it up but still I want you to find a game in a professional league and not only that find a glitch that gives you Absolute advantage and not only that but make sure the enemy don't see the gun shooting, and no one knows of this glitch. It's not their fault that they didn't knew the guys their for multiple rounds it's mostly valves fault for not adding testers instead of making hundreds if not Tens of thousands of people that had already their game ruined. That can help to find glitches in the game that include visual glitches. Like it's not their fault they lost it's valve for not testing gameplay ,visuals ,audio ,settings,and other glitches.
Ok, no, i don't think fnatic or anyone would have been able to adapt. It takes multiple rounds to even figure out there's something wrong, and then you have to figure it out. And with that boost fnatic could see where the other team was at all times, so no matter what LDLC could do, fnatic woull always have an advantage. So LDLC did the best they could have done, but fnatic just outsmarted them, but i don't agree with the first sentence you said.
Prefire the boost
I've always been on FNC's side on this. I have always disliked the team, but if no one else found that boost and they did that is just a tactical advantage that FNC had. It's not cheating, it's not Dirty they were just better prepared than the enemy team
duccc who calls Fnatic FNC?
@@phyzikdubztm4749 it's their official shortened name
@@phyzikdubztm4749 FNC is the official shortened version of the name. How new are you to esports that you didn't know this?
So saying u’ve always disliked the team strengthens your opinion? Why do people have to say that?
I'm not a fnatic fan, but I think this is should not be hated on. They found a boost that worked and kept it to themselves, if anything they should be praised for doing this because it shows how much time and dedication goes into map knowledge in esports.
That was genius, they deserved that victory
Nope
@@dr.cranium9080 They did
@@astralpotato5067 nope
Dibs Migee they did
Dibs Migee your legit going over the same vid over the past couple months how much of a loser are😂😂
The boost was legit too, shame that fnatic was put in a position where they had to forfeit or play from 13-3 again
Sorry it was 12-3 and no it wasn't a entire redo. Fnatic was absolutely screwed over in this situation. They were forced to have to play it from a spot that is almost unwinnable once but to do it a second time where LDLC just needs to win 4 rounds.
+Shark Man Yeah, they had to play from a spot that was basically unwinnable, because they played badly in the first half and cheated in the second.... That's how it works
Ldlc cheated in first half you rarted boi
No the point in that they shouldn't have to re-play from that spot in the in the first place, the boost was legal. It's not that hard to read the full comment but. Also that's old Overpass which was incredible CT sided
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Theres nothing wrong with stepping up with new tactics and its not ok to get punished for that. It took time and effort to create these things
If it was okay to use this boost it wouldn't have gotten patched. Same with alt tabbing to clear smokes
Vincent Campaert that smoke exploit was clearly a bug and no one "created" that
That bug was unintentional so was that boost. Why do you think they patched it?
frederik k so the boost was intentional? Why would they then patch it lol dumbass.
NarniaFan27 read again
The funny thing is
If that boost didn't get reviewed
They wouldn't have caught LDLC doing the illegal boost to
So they would've gone free without any problems
Funny how that works
You'd literally have to be the most nitpicky person ever to find out if ldlc was cheating. They probably cheated accidentily too because nobody would realize it was a cheat. Not you
Not me. Not millions of viewers around the world. Not even ldlc themselves. Lol
@@dr.cranium9080 wtf does "cheat accidentally" mean?
@@notaphilosopher5143 do you agree that it is possible for a player to unintentionally violate a rule? Then thats what i call accidentily cheating
@@dr.cranium9080 So then what Fnatic did be counted as game resetting cheat? Fnatic and LDLC did the same thing in every way, Fnatic just used it better.
@@KamiLilBird objectively yes fnatic and ldlc both did boosts. However they're not the same boosts. There's a reason why we don't have a name for the ldlc boost like we do for the olafboost- its because the similarities end at "illegal boost". If you dont look at the details of each boost and instead just penalize them both equally then you're being blind. What did fnatic do better? Exploit a bug? Because ldlc weren't trying to break any rules. Get your head out of your ass because it's not like fnatic and ldlc were trying to one up each other with boosts. It's not like they said to each other, "Hey i bet i could boost BETTER than the other team" so stfu with "doing it better"
Fountain hooks in Dota 2 = 100% cool
olofboost = Evil and awful
The CSGO comunity needs to grow a pair
I mean people were mad at it too, but atleast Navi wasnt disqualified for it. I definitely agree with you, its Valve's "fault" that it was possible
@@gachigasm3210 fnatic didn't disqualified they forfeit
@@lunnarel7193 They forfeit because........?
@@inferious777 they didn't want to replay the third match so they forfeit
Dude dendi is regarded as a legend for his fountain hooks. The greatest of all time, he was literally the face of dota 2. And then csgo is like this smh
"Its not right of them"
Aka you're sorry you didnt find it out. It was brilliant.
Olofmeister boostmeister
minecraft creeper oof
minecraft creeper omg are u muselk and ninjas baby?????
Smalls. Mori de_olofpass
Gingermeister Godmeister
Tec9meister
I remember watching that game live. I’m a scrub that doesn’t even play CS:GO but I love watching the competitive games. I used to watch tournaments at first not knowing much about the game but just finding it pure entertaining. I wasn’t at all in the community loop and after watching a couple of different matches I saw myself being the most entertained and in awe with Fnatic and they became my favourite team. To later found out they’re were pretty much the best and most popular. That’s how good they are.
Olof will be forever a legend of this game. If this is the last to see olof then we hope him good luck in his career
I say that its fair, they found it, it was their strat, going into the match it was not "patched". It wasnt a glitch, it wasnt game breaking (eg, he WAS able to be shot from there)
I really think they deserved the win that one time, because it was an insane find.
Well when its against the rules, its against the rules!
@@slayridah It wasn't against the rules until after they did it.
Slay Ridah it wasn’t against the rules though, nothing was stated in the present rule book that you couldn’t pixelboost or pixelwalk
OCULUS
They found it off of a youtuber who posted a video on it. Fnatic then proceeded to tell the youtuber to take down the video so the boost wouldn’t be known. What Fnatic did wasn’t illegal, but it was scummy.
TheSilentOne yeah nah that’s a lie
1.) It wasn't an external hack, it was IN THE game. That's Volvos fault, Fnatic simply abused the stupidity of a multi-billion dollar company.
2.) The hate that came after is absolutely unfair, there were (and still are) hackers with aimbots wallhacks in the pro scene, and people and pro players were mad about a incredible boost. Boohoo, you a**holes, I guess you aren't smart enough. So, Olof you're a legend.
I feel like all esport tournament hosters side with whoever yells the loudest what happened here was people complained enough so they said it was cheating. This is like how the overwatch league is now with them only punishing people who get community backlash. What happened here is a factor in why I just dont watch any esports now.
it's exploiting. Doesn't matter.
The thing is, i think all of the people calling that cheating is because LDLC had the game in the bag they were 13-3 they were the better team but then Fnatic come use a spot nobody knows about for them to comeback. I think its good that they restarted from 13-3 because then we could see how the game would have endet without them using an exploit.
Don't play CS GO maybe all of things im sayin are stupid idk 🤷♂️
Damn volvo making buggy games
disappointing to see such scrubery from the CS community... people talking like "oh it was scummy" "They're good they don't have to resort to X"
Fact is, in a game as precise, technical, and strategic as this, you really need to make rulings on this sort of things, explicitly, and NOT ex post facto. If they call out this specific boost in the future as banned, ban the map/ask Valve to patch it, etc. fine. But honestly in my opinion the fact that the ruling on it being illegal was so esoteric means that the rules on "boosts via texture bugs" or whatever the hell it was are nowhere near specific enough, especially if LDLC just so happened to violate it in the same set.
Punishing either team for this nonspecific shit just because people already didn't like fnatic is the real tragedy here, not fnatic using "dirty tricks" lmao.
"it's apparently just a broken map, and no one knew until now"
i feel like you just wanted to say ex post facto
ahh the old " I'm salty i didn't discover it first" salt
I should be sleeping its 3am
No And I enjoy seeing pizza tours on youtube when I'm on strict diet, but here we are.
Yes
(i feel like i'm not the only one that has replied this to you)
Don’t watch this vid at 3am challenge *gone wrong*
Soooo they pissed off an army of 7 year olds.... RIP.
i remember watching this live !! crazy to think it's been 5 freakin years
LDLC could have used the same boost. Smart playing and using what's at your disposal isn't cheating, and it isn't unfair.
It is when its against the actual rules. Did you watch the entire vid? They found a CURRENT rule they could apply to them. Pay attention.
Slay Ridah Did YOU watch the entire vid? LDLC also used an illegal boost. But because they didn’t win, no one cared. Hypocrisy at its finest
Slay Ridah no, it wasn’t a present rule book it was from 2013 dreamhack summer
@@jb17415 what the "entire vid" failed to show you was that a reddit user found out about the boost first, and fnatic asked him to keep quiet about it so that they could use it for their own personal gain
@@dr.cranium9080 Not illegal.
Olofboost was legal... The map is what it is, ldlc could have used it themselves
Itls like nobody actually watched the video all the way through. It actually was illegal BY CURRENT RULES you morons!
Slay Ridah You mean them fishing for anything to try and DQ or get them to replay the match? “After hours of VOD reviews we noticed both teams used a single texture bug that allowed for both boosts” that shit wouldn’t have even been questioned if the other team and community weren’t up in a rage about it. Let’s not even get onto the subject that nothing would have even been done about LDLC’s pixel boost because NO ONE said anything about it until it was found in the vod reviews that what LDLC was also illegal. Like they said previously there was NOTHING in the rule book prohibiting them for it. What got both teams was a single texture bug abuse that wasn’t even acknowledged by the community because the opposing team themselves didn’t even know they were breaking rules when the replays were happening.
@@slayridah watch whole video.
@@slayridah it wasn't illegal you moron
In my opinion ist not unfair, its shows that fnatic had much more game knowledge than other teams
Pray for MM the fuck are you talking about? their game analyzers saw someone posting that boost on youtube, and then paid them to take the video down and steal strat for themselves
Pray for MM
Well the problem is that when u have more knowledge in the game than youre opponent people are gonna rage at the fact you know something they dont and will find ways to take you down some will admit this boost is genius some will admit its Bonkers its kinda like the fountain hook navi used in dota 2
Oliver Guan You know that still means that had more map knowledge right? Knowledge isn't invalid with the payment of it.
Dracen Macatangay exactly
alan chung i couldnt say it better
I remember this lol. And my thoughts are when people get mad about it they are just passed they didn't get it first. If the tables were changed it would always be the same way
Feels bad seeing how olof has become right now. Miss the fnatic olof
best moment of the year. the whining from the 'but it's not honourable!' crowd was hilarious.
Tom Pasquill 100% agree, FNC are just genius
they lost bet thats why lol
Yeah who needs sportsmanship in sport right
Tom Pasquill lmfao ikr!!
Pablo Blo people can actually whine about anything in the name of sportsmanship tbh.
No they should not replay shit, they used the map to their advantage and there was nothing in the rules saying that they are not allowed to use pixel boosting. Top teams have top strats. Also when they tried to rush A against the boost, they couldn't do shit, they just fell apart in the second half, honestly they could have stop using the boost after about 4 rounds. LDLC just fell apart and they couldn't even rush a site to win a round.
Whenever fnc's boost were more impactful is actually irrelevant. Same rulebreak = same punishment. In this case it actually was very easy to call for the 0-0 replay since both team "exploited" the same pixel. Dreamhack were not able to handle the pressure that was put on them, so they called for the 12-3 replay (for some reason). But since the other team is french ofc they would not even accept that and would still just instantly surrender. Never regained my respect for NBK, SHOX and the others on that team. Seems like the mentality has not changed since ww2 in France.
Lol baguette baguette
Volde Snort Each tournament each year releases a different rule book. In that year dream hack allowed pixel walking BUT did not allow it when part of the map didn’t render or you could see some artifacts. They didn’t show it well in this video but basically both boosts showed the edges of the skybox artifacting which is why they were deemed illegal. But this actually applied to many more matches than just this one which is why FNC felt like they were treated unfair.
But still using bug is not right. Because the bug is get more than kill, it's info.
Dude, How about giving one of the players a no clip? So that they can oversee the entire map without even blipping in the enemy's radar? You moron.
Can we also point out that this "texture bug" that both boosts had were completely different...the texture that went missing in Olofs boost (as far as Im aware) had basically no impact on how effective it was, meanwhile the boost used by ldlc relied on a texture dissapearing, otherwise they wouldnt have seen a thing
THIS IS BEAUTIFULLY TOXIC AND THE PERFECTLY EXECUTED TROLL
this is the equivalent of like the fountain hook in dota 2
Kevin Florenz Daus fountain hook is a bug. this is just a boost. normal csgo mechanics. i dont see any problem with this boost.
Yukrizzan Tomoyoshi well its almost the same, both were considered sketchy but fountain hook didnt actually win them the whole game. It was great warding and chemistry of navi that did it (not saying fountain hooks didnt play a huge part). Its just that fountain hooks were already known but was pretty hard to do, thats why pros never used it until navi did.
the hook won them the game lol. the aegis gyro got wrecked on the fountain if not for the hook.. it would have already been gg how do you kill gyro twice?
Yukrizzan Tomoyoshi The fountain hook wasn't a bug. The mechanic worked just like it was meant to, they just didn't think of that scenario.
Kevin Florenz Daus yeah, I think if it's in the game it should be allowed
Fnatic found a way through. Thats it. They are genius. I think they deserved their titles well enough.
Yeah but if you find an exploit where you can walk through walls, or see through walls, that's a bug too which is not their fault. Both side has pro's and con's. tbh this would been legit, but if I remember correctly you couldn't kill the boosted player from party/toilet area, even if you were shooting his head, that's pretty unfair.
Yes agreed
I'm not into esports,CS:GO, or really twitch but this stuff is pretty compelling to watch. Well made videos.
That was creative!💯🙌 That boost if not disqualified would have pushed all teams to cross new boundaries.
Classic French team crying like a baby until they get their way 😭😭
don't make this a race thing plz
Oh boy
"Olofmeister, I love you!" -Pasha
Ethan Kang that was zues at the pgl major
Absolute gods work. Having a brain that big deserved the win.
Hadn't heard of that before. That's awesome. Pretty impressive finding it and keeping it a secret.
I don't know how I can't across this video. I don't like csgo, nor do I watch esports in general, but to me it just looks like they found something that worked to their advantage. It's called an adjustment, and it happens in football, basketball, baseball, etc.
Twitter: @_Nathan_Gibson_ well in this game, there’s no kill cam or any hint of where they got killed from so they had to figure it out by dying over and over. To put this in basketball reference like you said, it would be like someone wearing stilts and saying adjust to it
@@limitedbom2206 stilts aren't a part of basketball
It's an exploit of an unintended side effect that was never intended and had the creators known beforehand, would never have been allowed to remain in the first place. It's like that hockey coach that discovered u couldn't actually penalize a team below 3 players, so the team could get up a single point in the first quarter and just keep putting an extra player on the ice every 10 seconds so the ref would have to stop the puck and just run out the clock for the next 3 quarters. That rule clearly was not allowed to remain the way it was because it trivializes the game and the competitive aspect. The common thread is that it is good this sort of thing gets discovered, but the difference is the hockey coach tried to go to the NHL first to show them these problems and was ignored, while Fnatic only ever let it be seen during a crucial competition when huge amounts of money are on the line in the biggest tournament of the season. They knew about it ahead of time and in no way reached out to Valve or Dreamhack because they knew it 100% would not have been approved and the map might either have been disallowed or rapidly changed to fix it. It's not just some new quirk, or an evolution of the sport, it serves to make the game more boring and actively disrupts the spirit of the game.
exactly what most kids in this comment section don't understand
FNATIC did not break the rule just as the tournament director and rule book states Some people just hated the fact that FNATIC was so good and outsmarted opponents. LDLC broke the rule but the same backlash did not happen, proving it was a hate for FNATIC and not an outrage for "breaking the rules."
It was hate for being to good, but still using strats that were so good they didn't even need to use their skill to shit on the opposition.
Hajime Ichikawa
did you even watch the video?
@@SirPage13 I mean you were close but I'm pretty sure strats *are* skill.
Only facts, no crybabies fanboys argument here :
-LDLC uses a bug
-Fnatic uses a bug
-Admins forces both team to replay that map
-Fnatic forfeited for various reason (mostly for their image)
Looks like those are fanboy false truth tbh...
Cos the real truth was because of death threats from CS community(which is probably you're part of)
LDLC dont want a rematch, they want a replay of 12-3(only 2nd half) so..
Get your facts right
Not for image. Fnatic knew they couldnt win without the boost . The score was 13 to 3 and it was prctically over
Dibs Migee ”Fnatic knew they couldn’t win without boost”, are you stupid? They wouldn’t win even with the boost. It is also easily countered once known and wastes a lot of time. Simply by rushing B would be easy because their team is split.
@@nino6616 but....ct side always splits into the 2 points...it doesnt make rushing site easy....
Waiy ur trolling
Wow that as actually a really good video. Quality and great commentary. Very rare
They took advantage of the map, this is how things evolve and get better. Rules will change or people will find a way to counter this.
7:35 lmao the steam notification
Jerry lel
i actually minimize the video player because i think it is from mime steam XD. Im such a genius
FAA Why would you minimize the window just because of someone starting a game?
how is it a grimy tactic? literally just a boost
Imagine playing with this boost available on overpass. Right away youd see how one sided all overpass games would be.
Dibs Migee stfu
Dibs Migee or you could actually use your head and figure out a counter. Took them 11 or so rounds to do so. “Pros”
terrific ace up the sleeve
THE BEST CS GO MATCH EVER
2014-2015 golden years of CSGO. I miss those days when csgo was actually enjoyable to watch.
M1aGi did you not watch Boston? That faze c9 match was insane
I watched, but there is no way you can compare the atmosphere and hype in tournaments now and then. Like if you put Boston and Katowice, Cologne (14-15) on one scale it's like some 5/10 to 9-10/10.
Feel u
M1aGi gtfo
How the hell can you go and say that
Cologne 14 had almost no crowd
Fnatic was so used to winning that they didnt even cheered cologne 15
If you want atmosphere watch the qf of krakow vp vs north
Or pasha winning the 1v4 against imt in the semis
Before boston did you think that c9 would beat the top3 teams in the world and win na's first(and hopefuly last) major
Did you think that fnatic would go from being dead last in starseries4 to winning iem katowice
Did you think that vp could 2-0 faze
Cs is rn more enjoyable than 3 years ago
Typed on mobile on 1am
the crowd is more spread out now, even to my female friend, after they watch boston major.. they can enjoy csgo competitions, they even said csgo is more understandable than LOL or DOTA.. they even follow womans csgo scene too
Iconic play that should have counted. The ruling proved that the community can bully the officials and organizers to get what they want. Such a shame so many in the scene are cringe.
This was a legendary time for cs:go, I watched it live and was cheering them on. It was a legit boost spot that people didn't know about, was totally a secret weapon and was fair and square. They didn't do anything that counts to be replayed. If anything they should be lauded.
This would lead to people trying to find map exploits instead of honing their csgo skills. Dont laud a map exploit.
Dibs Migee sounds like you just need to know the maps better. Isn’t map knowledge a skill in csgo..?
@@bronzewaffle2310 a 2014 dreamhacks tourney has nothing to do with my map knowledge. If you find an exploit in a map, you should report it to the devs instead of keeping it for a crutch. "Map knowlege" has never brought a 3-11 score to 16-11. Map exploits have.
@@dr.cranium9080 Pretty sure Map Knowledge and map exploits rely on eachother to be effective...
They didn’t do anything wrong! They played the game to the best of their ability, and they played to win. It is stupid to call it “cheap” or an “exploit.”
So fucking stupid, csgo fans are so salty. It’s the game’s fault for having mechanics that can even be considered “abusable.”
Dude its like the dendi fountain hooks total legit no one was just prepared
I loved how they were able to discover this boost. Fnatic, you are still the best team in my opinion.
Wroooong. A reddit user discovered the olafboost first. Fnatic told him to keep quiet so that they could use it for themselves
I see that Waku Waku-7 in the background, potential hint for next episode?
I guess the world is full of noobs
This stopped fnatic from taking their 4th major
lmao they lost to hellraiser and got their ass barely saved by an illegal boost, yeah but no. No way they would pass the semis
thorin talked about the boost in his video where LDLC whinning about the boost so they could go to the semi
Bhavyam Kamal we're talking sportsmanship here and you're making a comparison to bullying, which has nothing to do with spotsmanship. But whatever
TryZoid yes I was too lazy to edit my comment but had they won this match and then this major
ESL cologne 2015 would have their 4th major
Pablo Blo
No way they could of passed the semis? They were considered the best CSGO team and they just beat LDLC which was the second best, and you're saying they wouldn't been able to win the major anyways? LOGIC LOL. ANd don't even get me started on the whole olofboost thing, it is simply a smart play by fnatic and totally fair and legal, and it is a fact, not even an opinion, the only reason why this topic was "controversial" is because all those people whining over it, once again, it was a FACT that the olofbost was smart and legal.
7:21 no he did not say that
I remember watching this live and just being absolutely floored by this never-before-seen strategy and seeing the insane comeback they managed to achieve with it.
This is basically the Fountain Hook of CSGO
Explain pls
Flan Ben Flen no
Is the scar-20 even legal?
Yes it is.
Well, yes it is. It may be a strong defensive weapon for the CT side, but is nowhere near OP. Unlike that Noob Cannon of Death that is the AWP...
MemetosEFX IDK people are bitching so were gonna have to review the footage lol
Personally consider it a no skill gun. Never use it
@@Beetlejuice699 I think the same, never liked using that gun
If you've seen this live you'll never forget it
The Olofboost was the smartest moment in esports.
I'd like to listen to LDLC team speak of this game LOL
My personal thought is the boost should have been exceptional for once
This was so legendary to watch when I was in high school.
I remember throwing flashbang grenade between walls in dust back in the pre cs:go era. When it's in the gray area of the rules, people will have divided opinion on what is fair and not. Need to fix map and rules for balance.
If fountain hook is allowed then this shit must've been allowed
dsaasdasd asdasdasd Exactly. Fucking Valve. If this was any other team, people wouldn't have cared.
Dude the difference between the Dendi's Fountain Hook and Olofboost is
Olof can almost see the whole map and the Fountain hook is bug that they discover, the overpass has no bugs they're smart but im not a fnatic fangay.
Fountain hook should've been banned and navi's winning should be forfeitted.
Juliane Reyes the fountain hook insta kills the target, and they can at least do that twice in a clash
dsaasdasd asdasdasd ye man but its a bug that's only been revealed by Navi and the olofboost is a map problem not a bug, terrains and possible boosts make it possible not some sort of a bug.