Did He Cheat? The Unsolvable Mystery of CS:GO's Most Suspicious Player
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ต.ค. 2020
- Robin “flusha” Ronnquist, a three-time Major winner who, in addition to having one of the biggest brains in CS:GO, is one of the game’s most controversial figures. Not because of anything he’s said, but rather because of some dubious plays on the server...
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*"Hey sometimes your opponent is just having a good day"*
*- CSGO Loading Screen*
That's Valve's response to VAC not working
@@donnieo4838 '' yeah pro players look at the ground and spin around and do insane flicks all the time bro. Its not spinbot. '' propobly cs loading screen
@@tumeh7410 to hidden for ai to detect
@@kevinbobandy532 nah bro, high sens is pro sens, that's why they're spinning
@@alieffauzanrizky7202 i just need to "git gud" as the kids like to say
Title : DId he cheat
Score esport : olof boost
they forgot the coldzera 4k tho
_Olof Boost_
Well they embraced the meme so...
I’m sure they have office meeting about how to put that clip in videos
They still miss the boston major
I was accused by my own teammates on PUBG. The feeling of being called a hacker is indescribable. Especially when you can see through walls.
I'm really high or that was a joke lmfao
hold up
💀
hhahahhahah
pubg have a really big problem with cheaters. Sometimes it even looks like game developers support them... Well, it's possible in case when cheat production is more profitable than an actual game. Developers should protect high rated cheaters in some way for more profits, but at the same time they should make a vision of "battle" against them.
Getting called a cheater while playing cs is quite possibly the highest compliment you can get
Unless your cheating.
@@Spotcats Then its still a compliment cuz the people who use cheats don't even know what the word integrity means, they think winning at all cost is respectable.
@@j.ramsey8863 In war it is. I agree. In gaming and sports? Never.
I have play time of 150 hours and CS is my first pc game...and my opponents told that i was a cheater...that night i only thought of that (Am not havker)
@@chewsdayinnit8488 you're better than them
"There so so MANY clips" *keeps showing clips twice*
And they didn't even show the most definitive one, which is the one shox is referring to in that leaked audio recording. All the ones shown in this video are just instinctive reaction and luck combined with good game sense. The only thing special about it is pulling it of in major tournaments against the best opponents out there and not matchmaking with randoms. The most obvious one however (LDLC vs fnatic on cache, flusha with AK as CT in connector, spamming the wall towards mid/boost with perfect aimbot-like hits on an off-angle in the middle of the spray) is the only one that actually convinced me.
@@schlafanzyk Can you link that clip please?
If you wanna see a face-like statue on a picture from the moon, you are gonna see a face-like statue on a picture from the moon.
@@schlafanzyk link
if you compete in so many matches like flusha you will acumulate a lot of funny, weird and lucky situations. especially if ur a player who loves to do wallbangs.
I’m sad you didn’t put in the clip of someone asking him to buy skins cuz he had a default knife and his reply was “I don’t wanna lose money when I get Vaced” honestly my favorite clip from flusha
*Ah, that's a classic lol.*
Lmao wut xD
Yeah he can be banned.. even hes not hacking.. valve will also think twice before banning flusha.
And also the last one (mirage) , that wasn't cheating just game sense
Since he was default, thts wht they discriminated against him
The whole “I lift my mouse a lot”-thing does actually make a bit of sense. I play with a very low dpi and lift my mouse too, and it sometimes causes your crosshair to move very unpredictably very fast. The thing is, we only see the few times that it flicked to a place with an enemy standing behind, not the possible thousands of times inbetween where it flicked to nobody.
exactly this. I'm not saying it's impossible he cheated, but cherry picked clips picked up traction because people love drama. I really doubt he ever cheated.
@@sIacker Every pro player, there's people try and hate because they are jealous and call them cheaters, it's nothing new - they tried it with shroud pre csgo, and during his pubg prime, they did it to Dr disrespect, tim, Dr Lupo, Ninja and so on etc.. These guys play as professional level, that the Normal filthy casual who plays csgo 10hrs a day can't comprehend, these guys play 15-20+ hours a day even days lol... People just jealous and salty.
I actually was thinking about that while watching the video, pretty sure he did that so many times on random places but they are only showing the sussy clips
Not it doesnt. There are so many pro players who have similar sensitivity and dpi and they dont have similar clips.
@@nebulous962 It depends on the mouse, bad luck and style of moving the mouse too. There are more factors.
5:45 if you watch the clip, and if you actually play csgo, you would know that when you spray and move around with the m4a1, the spray is absolutely ridiculous. I think its legit to be fair because it honestly just looks like a lucky headshot from the spray because no one can gauge where the spread is going when your walking and spraying. And we all know your bullets in cs never just go to where your crosshair directly is, but rather all over your screen lmao.
Yeah like what cheat was that? he was missing the guy 2 ft from him and got a lucky spray.
Yeah 100%,out of all the clips to focus on, this was the least suspicious one. Imo it's a ridiculous accusation to make in the first place but if you wanna make a case that he was cheating, a clip of a lucky high spread stray bullet doesn't do the trick.
Its not the spray that is suspicious here. Its the crosshair that flicks onto the other guy for one bullet and back again. I dont know if you can properly see it in this video when you slow it down, but in the original with full fps you can see his mouse moves from left to right like one would to adjust, BUT for one or two frames it goes to the left MID right swipe.
My thaught exactly
@@bullpaxton2001 it's called aimbot ? Aimbot sets the aim to where the bullet is going not the cross hair. It's always been like that.
"Flusha played on a computer that suffered from catastrophic frame drops"
Maybe I am flusha
skill is the only difference
I would be like flusha times 10
30 fps on 1.6, 6 If someone smoked. Really helps your reactions 🙂
@@Ray.6406 oooomf.
@@DampLover 30 on 1.6? what are you running bro 😭
Nah my man just has a good gaming chair
Fact
And an RGB mousepad.
Hilarious and original
@@sandraswan9008 stfu
how are u so funny!!!!! And original
“Make it your strength then it can never be your weakness” flusha really rolled with these punches and made it a part of himself. Gotta respect that
He didn't roll with the punches, Valve decided he was too much of a cash cow to ban from CSGO. He's cheating no doubt, but he pays the bills no doubt.
troll moron that makes no sense
@@Kyle-jv1hi BS, VAC would bann him automatically when they detect a cheat, many pros got banned. And none of the players are "cash cows", either he had a ultra good private cheat which cant be detected or he was just good.
@siniztah I play with a cheater at least once a week on csgo, VAC cannot keep up with the ever-changing cheat software nowadays. The cheaters will stick around as long as people keep making excuses for their "skills".
@@Kyle-jv1hi ai anticheats are soon
Worked with Fnatic at the time, Flusha didn't cheat. That Dust2 aimlock was debunked some time ago, his mouse hit the keyboard and his crosshairs never went across the CT. Devs went over the data beyond console and found nothing, they were given clean mice and weren't allowed to bring phones or any devices in with them. Flusha was just that good (and weird)
If Flusha was that good, why did he not remain consistent. By your logic, Flusha was very smart. Don't you expect a very smart player remain at the top? He was only 23 years old, he still had a lot of time to prove. That is what makes me not believe what you said. I see Device getting back on CS and destroying everyone, how can i look at Flusha and say " yes, he was just that good". Huh?
@@kirinom-3129 Idk man, everyone is different.
@@Greaves1047 the clip where he perfetctly aimlocks to a guy in just 1 frame in a smoked mirage palace just after winning the round it's one of the most blatant clips I've seen besides subroza lock on skadoodle. After the lock he rans away CT giving his back to the T to LOOK OVER TICKET in pure panic because he realized how blatant it was... (also he just defused open to ct just like 4 seconds before) Whoever says flusha didn't cheat is just in pure denial... After he was out of the storm he toggled off and started to suck, no more jumping ak shots, no more sprays that misteriously trigger middle-spray a headshot on a far enemy and no more flusha basically...
@@sebastian-sfX You can believe what you want, many people believe the Earth is flat as well. Facts are facts.
"If you are doing stupid, do it with CONFIDENCE" - flusha
Here goes that tofu delivery guy with his trueno
@@zedaddy3530 hahahahahaha
According to our god arT, it's the stupid shit that works the best cuz no one knows how to deal with it
@@savageninja7710 There are plenty of players with the same success rate of entries that don't take as many risks. When it works, it works but when it fails, its detrimental to a round. arT is just lucky to be playing in an online era of CS.
@@EtopiaCA so ur telling me that FURIA has remained a top 10 or or top 5 team in the world constantly and winning everything in NA for 2 years cuz they keep getting lucky??? I dont think I have to point out how stupid you sound
The only thing flush cheated on was his diet
Funny
Funny
@BigChungus55 not unfunny
💀
Veri haha
im a big fan of flusha and i sometimes try to be suspicious for fun but i just end up shooting empty spots and revealing my position.
Yeah flushab ofr sure is a cheater
Hello flusha , you lardass cheater
this is such a cool channel, love watching these even if I know literally nothing about the game being discussed
Everybody: FlUsha H4ckS
Flusha who accidentally hit his mouse against his keyboard:
U are stupid they use aimbot to Spot enemy trough Wall
Lmfaooo for real. I do shit like that all the time
@@zer0byzer029 still remember doing that with a full size keyboard on a local internet cafe
@@xs1xs1 thats not aimbot, are you stupid? thats esp/walls, its not aimbot either the locking onto heads is called “aim lock”
@@xs1xs1 ha ha ha bot
that one where he accidentally hit a headshot when spraying the other guy was totally legit u can tell he got lucky
I had to scroll so far to see this. I rewatched that clip 10 times and didnt see anything fishy. It looks like sheer luck
@@B3_6 noob lmao
@@B3_6 it was just a lucky stray bullet, I always though that was the stupidest ”vac” clip of him out there
Yeah it was legit. Just a lucky stray bullet that hit the dude in the head since he had running inaccuracy as well as spraying down everywhere xD
Yeah I'm sure most good aim bots can somewhat calculate for things like spray patterns, I don't think any bot could pick up a players head behind another player while running and about 20 shots into a burst.
I always love how 2G always gives pros the benefit of the doubt when looking at these clips and he was floored with flusha's tree push 🤣
Everyone knew flusha cheated. He got banned in 2014 but was too important to keep banned so they let it go and called it a "mistake".
It'd be less obvious if it was actually possible for normal players to have their bans reversed, but there's no appeal for VAC bans.
flusha is the ONLY player in the history of Valve Anticheat to receive an unban, or even have his case heard, since '05 when VAC bans became permanent.
Even other "mistaken" bans weren't undone, in point of fact, when there were over 10,000 false positives in 2017, none of them were unbanned because there is no appeal, no unban process. They literally didn't even have a process to unban him, they had to manually edit his backend profile.
Valve knew flusha was cheating. They also knew he was a cash cow, bringing people in, showing off a new knife every week (which saw instant spikes in trades and market prices on the knives) and generally being good for business. Why would they care if he had a second monitor to glance at to get perfect wallbangs? Cheaters are only bad for Valve if they're ruining comp lobbies. flusha made that bag for Valve. Short of spinbotting or becoming a brand risk, there was NOTHING he could do that would get him actually banned.
a vac ban has never been registered on flusha's account, and even then he's not the only pro to get unbanned, krimz also received an unban because it came from a 3rd party mm service and not a cheat for instance. how would flusha even cheat on lan if there are dozens of people watching his pc?
@@hhhhhh-vi6sq Those "dozens of people" have to look away at some point. Or it could be hidden in one of his peripherals.
As for hte VAC never being registered, yeah, turns out, since there's no unban system for VAC, it's like the ban never happened. But there's plenty of videos showing that he was in fact banned at one point.
@@Fatespinner was it the steam client or browser? it is easy to manipulate a browser to show something you want it to show. I am unsure if the same can be done with the steam client.
In the wise words of pashaBiceps, “of course floosha cheater.”
Here have a like
XDDDD
i can see him getting one-deag in mirage windows lmfao
Is this equivalent of " is that balance?" By loda?
I don't follow cs:go
@@CharDhue not too much, its a big meme tho
The clip where he starts shooting one guy and headshots the other, is that really suspicious? He aimed at the first guy throughout and suddenly they both lined up while he was still shooting, seems a coincidence to me
I agree. I had a similar situation on de_cbble back in the CSS days. I was T going A in a 3v5, spotted one in switcher and got jumped by someone from spot and one bullet I shot at that one killed the guy in switcher and didn't even notice. I kept aiming at switcher until one of my dead mates screamed at me "PLANT THE BOMB YOU IDIOT SWITCHER IS DEAD". Plays like that happen.
It seems like he transferred onto the second one, idk how you’d even process seeing him in that time
Its always been so weird to be aswell how that clip is always comes up when they talk about flusha cheater. He sprays like a mad man on a jumping guy, missing like 99% of the bullets, and then a second guy comes up right behind the first one and line up like two galaxies on collide course. And he hits them both. It should be referred to lucky shit nr 1 instead of cheat.
@@Andrew-sv3ck it doesn't look like a transfer just like a slow track of the first guy
If you slow that clip down you can clearly see the aim changing direction completely and locking the other guys head.
Either he just had an insane moment and did that on purpose or an aimhack did it for him. But it wasnt just a lucky lineup in any way you look at it.
Yes he did, and yes he did longer than most people know or will acknowledge. He even cheated on most Lan tournaments where the team could setup their own computers.
Since you're speaking with such certainty you must have some pretty solid evidence, right?
Nobody would be so stupid as to claim something like that without evidence.
@@kristoffer3000 right
@@cristiano1g Turns out, you are.
@@kristoffer3000Clips themselves are evidence, not necessarily proof. But looking at the totality of circumstances, there's a high probability he was cheating. He is a good disciplined player, no doubt.
I've played for over 20 years in CS and know all the fundamentals and optimal ways to play. I've reviewed my own demos to look for the same type of anomalies and there's always very very few coincidental swipe overs but never in a 'lock and briefly hold' fashion I see other people consistently do when they are using an aimkey for information. Lot of up and coming pros were more than likely cheating in 2015-2016 era via Team Ignite (SicK, recky, Yay, Paul Newman, etc)
I remember when there were steam exploits where people were downloading workshop maps that had cheats inside of them, or embedding cheats or malware into profile pictures which was as recent as 2 years ago in 2021.
Between mice and keyboards with memory chips that can embed cheats, steam exploits experienced exploiters are finding, it's not a stretch of the imagination that professional LAN players could get cheats on to a 'locked down' lan PC.
Either way unless VAC has an overhaul and or something can detect anomalous no sensor data "mouse" movements in conjunction with key presses, this would be one way to detect if someone is using an aimkey for information or aimbotting.
Somethings gotta give.
@@kristoffer3000That evidence is having eyes and not being a bot at the game. Unfortunately, you don't have eyes and are a bot at games and everywhere else.
I think that he lead into the thought that he was cheating on purpose to make his opponents be on edge every time they played against them. So every now and then when he knew someone was behind a box or something he would randomly fire just to piss off the people who thought he was cheating.
I will say though, that even though I haven't played much of cs, in valorant I end up getting lots of kills through walls and smokes from random guesses on where the enemies are, he is probably just the same.
I'm pretty sure that's true since he pretend shoots enemies far away even the when enemies hiding right next him.
@@Aramanela 2:24 explain this smartass
He has mastered psy-ops in csgo
THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT, LADIES AND GENTS.
THEY PUT OLOFBOOST IN THE VIDEO.
Mad men
WAIT YO WE PLAYED CS TOGETHER
I'm surprised they didn't in put the Coldzera jumping awp lmao
He's not cheating, he just have a better gaming chair then everyone else.
U think ur funny
Lmao HAHAHAHAH
Agreed
And he has more rgb in his room
@@paralyseds-1967 it’s pretty funny man
Flusha is an amazing player, crazy aim, unmatched big game experience and (even for a pro player) nutty game sense. Combine this with him having as much recorded big match gameplay as anyone in history and there you have it. There’s just no way this dude cheated in multiple majors. I don’t believe it.
tbh anyone with a brain and some cs experience would be able to conclude that he's not actually cheating lol
@@TakkoSaur Untrue, he did absolutely cheat.
@@TakkoSaur Although what I don't get is why they don't have a camera above each player's mouse so they can see if the mouse movements in-game match the player's aim in-game.
@@superghost6 you have any proof to back up that claim?
@@TakkoSaur what do you mean?
Developing a certain playstyle because of potato pc limitations is actually quite an underrated statement. And something I've actually seen happening in my own experience. My best friend used to play League Of Legends many years ago and back then he had a shitty laptop that couldn't produce more than 20fps at best and had like 6-8 fps in teamfights. On that abysmall setup he managed to reach Diamond in ranked. Because of the limitations he developed this amazing game sense of thinking many steps ahead and taking account of everything that could give him an edge in the strategic aspect of the game. It's similar to the way handicapped people develop skills to be able to do things their disability wouldn't allow.
I feel what your friend have been through in the past I was playing on potato laptop with shitty internet connexion and I have been like that for like more than 10 years but the day I got a new setup and the best internet connexion my level just exploded and I think playing like that for 10 years was really the best thing that happened to me on gaming
still doesnt make you magically stop when hovering youre crosshair over people thrwe walls and then perfectly shooting them the exact moment youre on them
its aim lock if you once used it and played arround with the settings you know it
mouse lifting happens but doesnt stop perfectly once youre crosshair is one someone threw a wall and then shooting the exact moment
No. This trash pc story is complete horseshit. In a 3d game where anyone can be anywhere at any given moment you literally cannot predict shit and not at that sucessrate. Its bs.
@@MoundN people are so naive and never used a cheat before obviously if you think he didnt cheat
he had so many obvious moments and getting vaced itself too
@@MoundN this post cracked me up. haven't played league in 10 years but making it to diamond with 6-8fps in a late teamfight is hilarious. Imagine believing your online buddy is rain man instead of maybe a guy who's using one of his many cheats to manipulate his ping and make his weird behavior more believable. Again, 8 FPS in a high rank team fight ahaha unreal.
5:15 he really took his pants off at the world's first csgo major tournament lmaoooo
legend xD
ROFLLL
hahaha wtf is that devilwalk?
I remember he had a dare or something. I cant remember the story sbout It lol. But he made a promise
Mad lad
He’s on the GEAR. Crisp clean lock boys. All the pros they on the GEAR
You see these pros, they’re already good. But they’re usin the fuckin gear to give them an advantage.
@@wishteriah that dude cracks me up every fucking time
@@wishteriah they are already good without the gear, but they use the gear to get an advantage over eachother
“Stewie2k can’t explain all this CHEAT EVIDENCE”
What is GEAR?
I love how you guys covered this. This is such a pillar of CS lore that you had to cover it but barring spying on him and going hardcore investigative journalism on it there’s no conclusive way to present it. Glad you found a way to do it justice by just stating the facts. And I’m with Moses on this one. It’s sketchy, but it’s far more entertaining and laudable so I’ll enjoy the ride til there’s a reason not to.
My favorite ones are the clips where he’s already shooting at someone and his aimbot goes crazy and starts shooting at someone that isn’t out a main yet.
I feel like besides his awesome game sense he's also a master at using the crowd in his favor. Some of those flicks were crowd checks like the dust2 ramp situation where he probably used the crowd to decide between ramp and elevator by just shooting at the ramp box and checking the crowd's reaction.
underrated comment is underrated
shiiiiiit if this is true then his csgo game volume is lowered?
If he did that... ye has a humongous brain
@@khrisnakhristian I doubt he can do anything to hear much through those helicopter pilot noise cancelling headphones but you can see it on people's faces when they're shocked, so yea, quick peek in the front row and you have your info.
@@retardno002 shroud said on stream once that crowd cheating is much easier than people think. He said even in booths you can feel the rumble of all those people roaring.
i feel like he just randomly flicks to the walls in game so that the people watching would be more confused and the haters would start hating even more
yea lmao, i do that sometimes to look sus whenever I have spectators its hilarious
They call them content flicks. People wallbang random shit all the time in siege hoping for that headshot. Then they clip it.
That's because you're a dumb little kid who doesn't understand anything.
@@Skindoggiedog ok sir knows-everything, now go home to your lovely family
Pretty sure he's shooting there just in case someone is holding that angle. All the clips look like he got lucky cause of how skilled he is, or he is just guessing and there just happens to be someone there.
If there's money to be earned, people will cheat. Simple. But some of these players like flusha just play so many games that at some random point they'll accidentally spray someone they can't see.
He must've felt like god lmao. Knowing you aren't cheating but the whole world thinks you are is probably a crazy feeling
These madlads added an olofboost to this one
Absolute madlads
He protec
He attac
But most importantly
He's in your back
he protec
he attac
but most importantly
he not get vac
he got the hack
Mostly speed running games are plagued by cheaters at the highest level doing this. For instance trackmania is a huge one where the best player lied to all of his friends in a super small community. Games that rely heavily on RNG usually also fall victim to this because its not like they don't have the skill to get the world record, they get tired of the RNG and decide to cheat. It could be possible he was using some soft cheats and is also a great player. We'll never know
Bro, mans shot directly at a guy, through multiple walls, with absolutely zero chance of hitting him, shooting at a place where there was nobody in the room he was clearing, and instantly flicked to him. Thats not inhuman, thats robotic.
Edit: I'm also not saying, especially with someone who uses low sensitivity, that the mouse cant flick conveniently to a person on the map, but when there are multiple clips of that happening, AND a shot is fired at what seems to be their head, when does a coincidence stop being that?
im calling vac on the one person who has watched this vid already
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Predicting the Olofboost in this
You were right my friend!!
vac
YOUR CHEATING STOP IT IM GONNA VAC-BAN YOU FOR WALLHACKS AND OTHER HACKS
Only if you knew😑
"how does flusha find him in the smoke like that...?"
The computer can't handle the packets.
*Flusha meanwhile:* If I look like I'm hacking maybe everyone thinks I'm hacking, that starts to put doubt in their mind so that they make more mistakes.
10 000iq honestly
after a certain point, this unironically
imagine having that much of a mental advantage where every 1vx situation the team goes 'shit guys its flusha we probably lose we knows where we are' even as a joke thats going to hurt the moral lol
I feel like he “cheating” is just psychological terror
That's exactly what it is. He uses the crowd to get under the skin of the pros and therefore forcing them to play predictable in certain situations. If you can influence your enemy to do what you want them to do, you will always win.
@@emilwestgaardhenriksen1715 as Sun tzu says: If you know your enemie you can win a hundred battle
Ajajaj yeah sure...
@@emilwestgaardhenriksen1715 worst excuse ever.
In the third example, he is in a 1v3 situation and the angle he shoots at is a common hold position for T that have pushed through. He was probably on edge and thought he saw a T there and flicked. Pure coincidence that the T player was in the proximity of where his aim goes. He never actually aims for the T player, only at the angle where he expected a T to be in.
it is also a possible predict play of the awp he heard behind the containers on site (forgot the callout).
It's impossible to take anyone wearing a Monster Energy hat seriously
I would wear it if Monster was paying my bills too!
That hat made him more money than you think
@@claytonhayes3024 not quite as much as the 3rd party software :P
i have a monster energy beanie
i dont take my life seriously
You would wear it too if they paid you. It's just that you're worthless and they wouldn't ever have any interest in you wearing their hat.
being called a cheater while legit is already a huge compliment let alone at the top level of cs that is literally the best compliment anyone can ever receive
I think ropz disagrees with you my friend
Forsaken probably as well
-still probably considers them compliments now... except forsaken-
@tyler hall well for one most tournaments use replays which are 32tick that alone makes everything look more suspicious, im not one to say that server tickrate effects gameplay heavily but 32ticks defo effect replays heavily
Until you get OW banned.
Nah he doesn't cheat, he just puts his crosshair perfectly in people's heads that are through walls for fractions of seconds. Completely natural.
That’s the reaction speeds of pro players across many different FPS games.
@@thecrazycapmaster hes hacking, no question.
@@Kyle-jv1hi lame
He aimlocks for position. Made it out alive. What a Legend
7:52 it might look pretty suspicious, but if you actually watch that match's demo without the caster and the crowd noises, you can hear how seized scoped. Little detail that you can’t hear because of all the noise
goodtoknow
@@theMelvinShow i think sparkles made a video....where he shows how crazy detailed an aimbot can be.
u can set it to: "aim top right of enemy head/aim at his left knee/aim 10px to the right of his elbow" (when pressed) instead of directly on the head/player. or smth like that.
its really mindblowing...how deep this shit goes
@@theMelvinShow lol
This is 100% true story. I didn't heard about this "story" that he played on a computer that frame drops and learned to predict stuff BUT from experience playing on low end computer all my life (sue me. I'm not rich or have money to buy recent computers. Right now, I have Athlon X4 PC which was made 2015 I think.), I can relate on those frame drops and IT DOES allows you to predict stuff.
My game is League of Legends and I have this term called "Macro predictions" wherein there are times where I know where each players are to the point that I am 100% sure I can hit a skill shot in fog of war based on predicting movement patterns of my opponent. And yes, this, I think, stemmed from me playing on a computer with 15-25 FPS a few years now. I also predict skill shots because with that FPS, you cannot do the tip "put your mouse over your opponent and skill and it will hit." No. It doesn't work that way on a 15 fps machine.
Same as him, I developed a strategy to predict "where and when a team fight will happen." I played as Yorick and split push. I did this strategy wherein I use those macro predictions and go the farthest on that "predicted" teamfights. AND IT WORKS. Not only it helped me gain better framerate (of course since my rig don't need to process more skill effects) but I also effectively learned WHEN TO PULL before my opponents even get there.
So, yeah, I agree that playing in low end pc will allow you to practice those predictions.
Faith, it is even more suspicious that way. See, the clutch moment, you are 1v1, you aware of few angles where an opponent could show up and you then you hear a sound. If you played a lot of cs, ask yourself what would you do. I'am not a pro, but I found myself doing what most good players do: flick pre-fire a spot what was exposed to be right after I heard the sound. In cs go (like almost in every other shooting game) you often aiming at PLACES, not at enemies. You expect enemy's head to be at certain spot for you to aim at. The better player is, the faster and more precise he aims at that spots and faster gets a kills. In that situation you hear a scope, meaning enemy is going to peek you, so you flick pre-fire his most probable position, which could be ramp box or top part of ramp where he actually moved his crosshair after aim locking weird spots. Those things simply burn into your muscle memory, you don't aim at places where nothing could be. Your pre aim places where you have a possibility to catch enemy, angles, wallbangs etc. In that moment you are driven by all your useful experience, which brought you there. I hightly doubt that after a thousands played dust2 matches flusha ever killed somebody through ramp wall so that experience lasted and he subconsciously tried to do that again. Same was with cache clip. There are even in theory nothing to shoot at.
5:52 he was shooting while running so, your shots don't go exactly where you aim while running! Makes sense?
It’s always a cheat or pure Luck. Some hit these pretty consistent. Your choice if they are lucky everytime or dirty cheaters
not only that he was running he had been spraying for a while. I'm calling luck shut up with the hax shit.
@@florianvo7616 oh go away
@@florianvo7616 “I’m a pro analyst that understands the game to its fullest extent”
@@Snope111 yeah his accuracy when that shot was fired would've been so low just from movement that if an aimbot *had* locked that player it would've sprayed all over & hit nothing.
whenever he turns and shoots a random wall, it's always while turning left. Nothing shady about that. An aimbot isn't going to suddenly turn and shoot at someone 30 degrees from the crosshair. No pro is going to have a triggerbot enabled, or an aimbot set to hard lock on things nowhere near the crosshair. But what does happen...a LOT, is that your mouse hits your keyboard and the fire button goes under it, causing you to shoot.
Damn it happen a lot to me and that make totally sens cuz i even killed someone by accident like that and it look hella suspicious when you look at the demo
Sorry, but the clips in the video reek of a glitchty triggerbot.
Flusha at home giggling after a long day of trying to do sketchy things
big brain flusha indeed
"Of course Flusha, cheater"
floosha
Bruh I mean if you look at the head snaps in the pre 2016 clips you can clearly see that the crosshair is the same distance away from the player models head every time. This is no coincidence, cheats have been able to do that since early CSGO years, snapping to an offset distance chosen by the player. I'm sure he was just an excellent player in 99% of his gameplay, but when it came down to those 1% of rounds where he needed to make something happen so his team could win... not hard to figure out is it.
short answer is yes. All his buddies got banned. like from WRTT days, everybody knew it too, just nobody couldnt get em until fucking valve banned them all.
But Flusha was a decent player without cheats too, thats why its so scary.
But glad top players at least have calmed down. Kioshima sold his entire inventory in less than 2hours after KQLY got banned. And all these guys had the same cheat from one cheat dev.
But im glad its over. i dont think we will see cheaters like this ever again in the tier 1 scene, back then it wasnt as big. but today you cant escape the consequences, the scene has become such a big thing, you can no longer do what these kids did. Well you can, but good luck with your life
His brain is large asf xD his flicks to just random ass walls is funny
Yes it’s game sense
@@TheCharskeBros its literally game sense, knowledge of timings, that is it
@@andrewkielbasowycz1915 this just shows me you have none silver XD, say they have a setup or favor a site or locations on buys forces or saves and you hear a foot... bam
who knows it might be big brain if you suspect someone being somewhere to shoot randomly somewhere else to bait them to peak and hold that angle again to get them on the peak. might be an explanation, but IDK
@@emilt.m.6418 maybe but that’s why his brain is massive like that he’s trying to predict the future
I know this is anecdotal... but when i watch my own demos trying to improve there are tons of times where it looks like I "lock" or see someone through a wall, or even get a kill that looks fishy as fuck and if I get those coincidences as an average player with 4k hrs. I assume pros have it all the time.
The difference is that in certain clips, he shots a single or a couple rounds in a VERY specific direction, sometimes non-bang able or common surfaces. It’s one thing to put rounds into a known position or common spot for lurks/rotations and quite another to do some of the things in certain clips of his.
I feel like this too, I'm pretty bad at the game but still get a fair few dodgy looking kills; in a game like CS it just happens
@@SahiPie you talking about that cache clip? A guy could be on top of the box he shot at, that was a pre fire on a weird angle.
@@emilelocas5496 Not a specific one in mind, he has a bunch not featured in the video after all. Though the D2 one from the vid is head scratching
@@SahiPie Yeah but often in those scenarios he is shooting at a potential location. Like the one on cache in tree room, it looked like he nervously spooked himself and prefired the jump onto the box in the corner. If anyone happens to be in the entrance to B from main they will be under that crosshair. It's the knowledge of these kind of things that makes me not believe flusha cheats.
Respect to him for taking creativity to the next level, creating a meme for himself, based on the specific controversy surrounding him and his gameplay. Dude legit owned everyone else before they could own him, and that's not even including his gaming instincts.
"Not everybody thinks that cs pros are all just secretly cheaters." Well we without anti-cheat software available we have no choice but to assume they are all cheaters. Get fucking real dude.
imo that fishy play on Cache was just him remembering that he forgot to check boxes so he quickly flicked his wrist in that direction while panicking and started shooting. If you look closely his crosshair doesn't perfectly line up with the players hitbox that he is supposedly shooting through the wall at. I could be wrong though because the footage is pretty grainy.
Edit for spelling.
Also he could have just hit his keyboard with his mouse.
@@Sjokola ye possible I guess.
@@Sjokola Yeah i remember someone mentioning that one for the dust 2 clip.. done it myself before.
@@SteamControllerPlayer that's bullshit, if you hit your mouse against your keyboard it would deflect or do a bounce but flusha's just lock in place
@@maniac3905 not true. Mine stops
Bottom line: there’s no evidence that Flusha was/is hacking even tho he seems sus sometimes...besides if it’s such a problem why doesn’t the tournament org have somebody watch the players set up their PCs? That way there’s no way a person could cheat
They literally do have people that watch the players at all times during the game. People just really want him to be a cheater.
Don't use screen display cheats???Trigger bots and aimbots dont show you where the enemy is
While I agree that there's no evidence, you're wrong that there's no way a person could cheat. There are lots of videos of cheats that you don't even need the PC for and there's definitely big money in it.
@@MoonMoon53 He would have had to done that for so long mate and have no tournament official catch him.
@@MoonMoon53 Also, the pcs at tournaments do not have cheats installed on them, for them to have cheats, someone has to download them, so if one official pays careful attention, then they will see if he cheated or not.
The Cache clip is the only egregiously suspicious evidence, but, oh man, is it sus af. Particularly, the way he realizes the mistake and shakes his mouse after.
"Crisp clean lock boys", oh man this meme never gets old
This guy's facial expressions make me want to relapse on heroin
He is dripping with soy
like at 8:12 lmao
Hahhahahahaha
@@kendob9642 what is the problem with appearing weak or “soy” whatever. Masculinity is quite redundant in today’s society. We aren’t neanderthals that need to club each other to death to be successful in life.
@@kendob9642 Love seeing people say shit like this when soy doesn’t even have estrogen in it lmao
He didn't cheat in csgo but he sure cheated when it came to his taxes.
You can't really "cheat" in taxes, you only avoid having your money taken away by the government.
@@patrykapiezo1650 true and based
@@patrykapiezo1650 Not sure what you're getting at, but he tried to cheat the system and got caught doing it - resulting in 120h community service. Winnings in Esports does not count as gamling winnings, atleast not in Sweden. This is due to it being won due to skill, and therefor our taxation office thinks it is money that you earned as a job. Hence, you need to pay about 50% of the winnings in tax and other fees. He didn't do that, and well, that is cheating.
@@ChristopherBergsten 50% seems crazy high for taxes!
@@ragreenburg it‘s income tax so that‘s normal for most countries but i agree it‘s unrationally high
15:50 "If they could retroactively 100% detect the cheats" -- the question that should be asked is this:
*_"Would they want to 100% detect the cheats?"_*
I say they would not. I'd say they know that the claim "it may be as many as 30% of the pros are cheating" is a lowball. If you were Valve, knew most of your pros were cheating, what would you do? Nuke your whole pro scene? Really?
The greatest unsolved mystery in all of gaming.
Its refreshing that the host isnt high as a kite for a change.
no kidding - other dude needs to invest in some eye drops..
@@1log1x what host or video was it
Why do you care 😂
@@Cometism its distracting smh
Lmao😂
Flusha on his death bed : " I just have a confession before i die, i..i....i " then he dies.. i would literally scream then
I i i ..Didn't cheat
i..i...i Chea *beep beep beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*
i c........(x x)
Would be kinda fun to revisit this with some of the new AI anti cheat systems analysing it.
this
I submitted clips it to waldo vision
Lol , cuz u think some cheat arent learning with ia ? They didnt wait valve for it 🤣
@@deadman59240he’s talking about 10 year old clips of flusha, not current stuff.
That most likely won't yield any results due to the low tickrate of the demos from back then
one thing to consider is that with this much time and this many pros playing a game for 10 years, i feel like it would be statistically unlikely if there wasn't a player who gets sussy clips again and again
and the fact is people are just cherry picking, you could easily find clips of most pros in similar situations and clips of flusha flicking like this on noone
It would be statistically unlikely if there wasn’t a high level player cheating.
@@srensen3081Except it’s not. You can find a few clips of other pros, but you can’t make long compilations of them like without flusha.
It’s not just that he locks onto people through walls, its that he consistently does it.
It's about consistensy. He ALWAYS does it. and suddenly fnatic doesn't suck anymore. How lucky huh?
5:54 that's supposed to be suspect? It's just a lucky shot
Ikr
well gamers love to cry.
His crosshair never even went over his head. He tried to track the guy close and a stray bullet hit the guy in short. If people say they never accidentaly hit a guy behind the one they were aiming at, they are lying
@@Hinem0N Even if his crosshair grazed the guy behind you can still say its pure coincidence
@@Hinem0N Besides unless someone is scoped in with an AWP where your bullet goes to your crosshair 100 percent. People seemed to forget that your bullets wont always hit where your crosshair is especially if youre spraying.
"Or just like, MIBR at any point"
Why must you hurt me this way
M1B7 get ir right man lol
Individuals often go to great lengths in pursuit of financial gain. Flusha, for example, reputedly cheated his way to prominence. As a result, he is now backed by sponsors and has amassed a considerable fortune. His path to success, however, was not based on legitimate skill, but rather on the unfair advantage of aimlock. This can be likened to the use of performance-enhancing drugs in cycling events. Yet, unlike biological substances that can be readily tested for, this issue is technological, and thus presents ample opportunity for finding exploitable loopholes.
when you get good enough you can count times on rotates without sound. this is also coaching, and way back in the day coaches could also communicate and do callouts for the team.
It's weird how unsolvable it is. The cheat that "smn" admitted to using was a low FOV aimbot that, on "legit" settigs, only corrected his aim on specific bullets. He claimed that people only got suspicious of him because he'd used exaggerated settings. On one hand this makes flusha cheating seem more likely, because of how sophisticated software can be. But then on the other hand, why would such software ever even allow him to lock onto people so blatantly?
Cause the cheat is not rendering the walls correctly and when you go near a player through walls it can stick to him, like if hes got the aimlock on a key or the trigger and he hovers over a player through a wall and it shoots or locks depending on what is being used
So when designing and developing software, you aim to create something that has as few bugs and handles as many edge cases as possible and it is impossible to know if you have found every bug and handled every edge case. A bug that wasn't discovered during QA or an edge case the developer didn't identify and properly handle can easily cause a soft aimlock hack to be more blatant than intended.
I mean, the simplest solution is just that he isn’t cheating 🤣
I've seen an interview with a chinese cheater that talked in depth about his cheating and why he would never receive a VAC ban, in short the cheater bought a script written by a dev in Europe for 12k euro with additional 300 euro payment every time the game updates which requires script update. Basically untraceable, and it's so private that something like VAC will never get it into its database and recognize it as a cheat. He talked briefly about how he got his first account overwatch banned, basically limit testing and mention pros possibly using similar stuff. Ever wonder why the "mouse lifting" stuff stopped happening when gear checking became standardized? If it doesn't look normal it probably isn't. I don't thing top players right now cheat, it's not possible, but in the past? Especially flusha's case, I think there's a real chance. Chances are also high that he's particularly unlucky about crosshair flicking into unfortunate places and he's totally innocent, but I just want to share some of my knowledge about the stuff here.
@@gyrozeppeli00 I think it's pretty general consensus now that these pro players (esp ones like flusha) has most likely cheated in the past because of just all the circumstantial and weird evidence out there and suddenly after they started tightening up on cheats and this started becoming an issue - all of a sudden these suspicious clips and "coincidences" and need for explanations pretty much stop and the players overall skill level starts to wane a little from their usual. I feel like it's kinda like that famous OJ simpson case - everyone knows he killed his wife and that he did it and most things point towards that but he gets off on a technicality that there just wasn't enough to fully pin it on him, and flusha and other old school ex cheaters are kinda like that for CS GO
Most of these players are no longer as god-like or has fallen off quite a bit since then (although I guess you can blame it on natural aging and progression but it just seems some of these top 20 players fell off right after getting scrutinized and weird clips stop showing up) but even the couple years right after you can see that there was a significant drop in performance compared to before.
How to cheat:
- Memorize the map to the point where you can run through it blind
By doing this, you'd be able to pre-fire through smoke or walls since you would know where the opponent most likely is (process of elimination).
Yea I always thought that. People spray through smokes while flusha prefires the same angles even if a smoke is up. Nothing close to “cheating” the man just knows his angles 🤷
Knowing all the angles is not enough. You also need to know that a player is at that specific angle. That's the easiest way to spot wallhacks. If they are stupid enough to only shoot at populated angles and just dismiss all the empty ones.
@@espendennis what are you even talking about? flusha doesn't only shoot at angles where players are. have you even watched a fnatic match?
@@AlexMacho765 I have watched fnatic matches. I'm saying Flusha is not cheating.
Agreed. Practicing to that level of detail. While having flusha's high capacity to imagine himself in their position, + also getting to know these people on a deeper level how they play . Through countless games, would be a good recipe for a Señor Vac
6¨12 you know that in cs go when you spray the bullets don't go where the crosshair's at right? on top of that he was moving while shooting which makes the spread even more drastic.
I cant believe the best players in the cs community think that spray down on one guy and lucky headshot on another who was right in the direction of the spray to be something other than pure luck.
I love how you sneak olof boost in this ahahah. Nice.
I was waiting for the pasha clip where he says "ofcors floosha chitterr"
5:13 my guy just took his pants down on stage lol
give them all same fresh new peripherals straight out of the box before each match
Not planning on watching the whole video, but if anyone believes that flusha wasn't cheating at some point, you need to reevaluate your intelligence
Wearing señor vac jersey during major is the most badass and trolled moment ever🙌
You just used trolled and an emoji un-ironically
@@wahl7837 wow you’re so mature for not using emojis bros
I missed that clip when he comes back from a game break and while the admin takes a quick look at his computer flusha makes weird faces. :D
did anyone ever consider the fact he might be using the commentators casting to his advantage? Im pretty sure the over ear headphones provide white noise to cancel out the outside noise, however im sure if you slipped them slightly off, or had something wedged underneath you could probably hear the casters slightly giving away the enemy's positions. Just a thought
when natural is called “doped” is a biggest compliment
0:37 when flusha got a taste of his own medicine
Oh i didnt even catch that was him dying there, great catch!
never seen a smoke kill before?
0:37 Flusha but he is the victim now
I'm an old hand who generally scoffs at most witch hunts, but in flusha's case, he's the only player I'm convinced was actually cheating at some point.
He was 100% cheating. For more casual players is a fun debate but anyone I’ve met that’s really played cs for a long time knows he was cheating. It’s just so obvious. It’s really the movement that gives it away, not the aim.
@@Username-2 17:39 this for example is such thing i assume you talking about which only experienced cs players will call sus. the way he safely outmoves him making it "look legit"
@@GTisBae what hacks do you think he is using? it can't be anything visual, else people would see it on his screen on the stage, so what in that situation makes you think he is cheating? Just looks like great game sense to me
@GTisBae What cheats can he use to outmanoeuvre tarik there? He's not locking on to him, and he can't use any visual cues like radar, because the staff would clearly see it.
Triggerbot.@@FLAIR__
Rmours say Flusha still haven't been showering up to today
the major frag from his early career was 100% clean, also insanely lucky with spread that it hit in head of guy behind, but it all looked crazy :D
N0thing doesn’t need a cheater coach to tell him where enemies are
@Esoteric Groyper can you read?
Feels so good to see so many people admire this n0thing clip when, for me, it is just default predictions 😅
@Esoteric Groyper that’s why you deleted your comment, gotta get that last word in a TH-cam comment tho right,
@@Ralle2991 well you’re not pro so maybe you should stop the god complex and use it as fuel to push you to a good level
you can literally see on that d2 clip that he moves his hand. 100% he hit the keyboard. it happens a lot
All of the clips where he shoots through a wall, are when he moves mouse from right to left. And that's when you hit the keyboard. Every single one.
I don't see that
@@Adr3nalin3CsGO Yes, and not a single one actually locks onto their head, it’s always at least a whole head of, meaning that would be the worst hack to ever exist
@@sirkiz1181
You don't have any clue of smoth aim, aimlock, aimassist, sprayassist boy. very naive to think if its not the head, it's not a hack.
You can just type in a hack while crouch aim at chest, when you lock from ride side of the guy, i locks on his right arm. not even arm, but near it.
YOu can adjust everything today. And there's a lot more to spectate for example mouse speed acceleration before and while use lock key.
Dumbass hacks aim straight to your head yeah.
yep he hits his keyboard, shoots accidentally and than can easily move more left, where before, he hit his keyboard :D
so i guess he hit his keyboard out of the table probably ahahaha. you guys believe every fairy tale
I've seen some top-tier / best players in the world for other games, commentate LIVE and predicting (random) enemies to a tea, it's definitely believeable that Flusha is legit.
However there are some sketchy clips that are still unexplainable that these others don't have.
Sometimes I flick my mouse into my keyboard and the mouse button gets pressed by the keyboard. In game if the cursor so happens to stop on someone behind a wall when the mouse hits my keyboard, it would look like I've locked on someone and fired at them in the same way his actual fishy clips look. Like me, he plays with his keyboard straight and in front of him rather than angled off to the side. The rest of his clips are just big brain plays, map/game sense and some lucky shots
Ngl some of these clips looks like he’s purposely pre-aiming/flicking to look sus. Me and friends do that all the time on R6
yeah I think so too
Sammeee. I pretend to trace all the time😭
but what you and your friends and even what i do is a completely level from a pro doing it in a tourney. Like at least u laugh wit ur friends when u do it, but if he played around and faked it he would gain nothing but hate/accusations that could interfere with his career
@@Joker-gn4jh not true. he even embraces the accusations, hence the senor vac nick. and why would accusations interfere with his career? dont you know that someone is innocent until proven guilty?
@@gusfalk For one, accusations can interfere with someone's career because of the reputation said person brings along. And I think you missed my point. Let's say that he is actually 200% sure not cheating. By "playing around" like he has been, he uselessly produces false speculations and such that would only trouble him; he doesn't even gain anything off doing that lol, if anything he loses more than he gains bc of people speculating like me. Especially by doing stuff like that in a tournament where people are much more sensitive about cheating because of the prize pool at stake.