Are These CSGO Pros Cheating? | A Cheater's Perspective

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  • Professional CSGO players are on another level on insane at the game, but are some too insane? Today we'll be looking into CSGO pro cheating scandals and I'll give my own opinion on it.
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  • @NoHyper
    @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +278

    Hopefully you all enjoyed! If you did, please leave a like and subscribe. This is by far the longest video I've ever made, both in length and time to create. Love you guys

    • @futuristic-
      @futuristic- ปีที่แล้ว +13

      These type of videos are way better and way more original. Would love to see more.

    • @kwjc01
      @kwjc01 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i love how unique your vids are compared to the hvh scene. Nice work.

    • @Rootzi
      @Rootzi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      more of these documentary type videos they are brilliant

    • @luke7367
      @luke7367 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi I Need arget helpI bought an account of g2g and Its chinse or smt and idk how to log on or anything about it please add me on discord or help me

    • @verylongchannelhandle
      @verylongchannelhandle ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did not expect this type of video from you tbh! Very well done and it's clear you put a lot of effort into it! Good job

  • @beeeeeej
    @beeeeeej ปีที่แล้ว +2519

    Honestly it’s so hard to judge some clips because everything we see as a spectator, is not what the players see. Things such as latency, monitor, screen resolution, settings.

    • @JohnWick-ch3ix
      @JohnWick-ch3ix ปีที่แล้ว +170

      The most important you forgot the brain of other player

    • @Mahjoneesi
      @Mahjoneesi ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Especially when people "trace" enemies through walls. It's most of the times just muscle memory doing it's job. Of course in some cases there are cheats involved.

    • @therealb888
      @therealb888 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      All these variables can be replicated, tested and can be subject to statistical analysis. Essentially measuring how much of these variables actually make a difference and how can we reduce their impact so we can observe and investigate or detect with the least error rate possible.

    • @arizonad8012
      @arizonad8012 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Acually is not.I've played CS 1.6 and now CS GO (started from last year), and I was always able to say who is cheating.Even in the open, based on how the player reacts.The point is that people from organizations don't care.When CS 1.6 was popular there were maps that you can choose, made by various people, each of those maps had admins who took care, so no cheaters could survive.You find someone suspisious, you record him/her using cheats and you ban him/her.End of story.Those were good times.Now you find a cheater, you record him/her, report him/her, and nothing happens which encourages more and more people to use it.

    • @dagroseren
      @dagroseren ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Mahjoneesi I have a friend that can track people with sound only, not a good player otherwise, which when watching him do it from spectating looks sketch af

  • @NitishDobhal
    @NitishDobhal ปีที่แล้ว +623

    Its amazing how forsaken single handedly destroyed a potential millions dollar worth of Indian gaming industry

    • @taekwondoinc.2279
      @taekwondoinc.2279 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yeh no If they were good they wpuldve pushed through all that

    • @lternatively
      @lternatively ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@taekwondoinc.2279 oh for sure buddy. you must know all about csgo professional leagues.

    • @nlnd6490
      @nlnd6490 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha

    • @legitfake4786
      @legitfake4786 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Valve do not support us look at Valorant they have Indian servers in CSGO we have to play with Singaporean servers. Valorant also supports eSports in India and Asia. Bruh valve is arrogant.

    • @strikefreedom2846
      @strikefreedom2846 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@legitfake4786 valve dpes have indian servers? They even have dubai servers lol

  • @wallthemart
    @wallthemart ปีที่แล้ว +943

    The 1v4 clutch final shot is probably due to spectator tick rate. Any remotely quick flick looks like that when spectating. How you tell its legit is the overtravel. After the shot u can see his crosshair followthrough the swing and swings back to centre. Its quite fluid and normal.

    • @dylanbishop4175
      @dylanbishop4175 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      People also forget nearly all CSGO pros play on Stretched rez which quite literally makes the players and their hit boxes twice the size, so whilst he may not have been there on a non stretched rez monitor he most likely would be in stretched.. CSGO is skunked for Stretched rez, it literally gives you 2 free rankups

    • @Mixu.
      @Mixu. ปีที่แล้ว +149

      @@dylanbishop4175 that's... not how that works. The hitboxes are always the same size, and in terms of spectators seeing what the players see, both see the crosshair be either on target or off target always in the same way.
      Stretched simply makes the picture on your screen... stretched. It changes nothing in the engine of the game or the server.

    • @dylanbishop4175
      @dylanbishop4175 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Mixu. that's quite literally how it works. If you play CS on 16:9 the players are thinner, on 4:3 the players are quite literally stretched and they're larger, if you haven't played CSGO on stretched then don't comment. And if you have, then you're obviously dumb. Especially considering there's TH-cam videos about people using stretch rez for specifically that reason. It's also why stretch is less common on Valorant, because it doesn't do anything on Valo, but the CS game engine changes with different rez

    • @Mixu.
      @Mixu. ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@dylanbishop4175 most top players play stretched in Valorant Rainbow six siege and many other games for prefernce reasons-, because it zooms in the view a bit-, and because there's less things on screen to be distracted by (the sides get cut off).
      Go in game, aim at the edge of a character, change resolution and be amazed.
      Or just stay ignorant, won't change my life.

    • @arty6287
      @arty6287 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@dylanbishop4175 No, the players are stretched on your monitor, there’s a difference between client-side and serverside. So while the players are stretched on a 4:3 res on your client, in actuality from the perspective of the server they have the same hitbox.

  • @yav1d
    @yav1d ปีที่แล้ว +302

    This was honestly a skyscraper jump up from your previous content. Good to see the improvements

    • @icedstev0433
      @icedstev0433 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ear dirt

    • @0luc83
      @0luc83 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ear@@icedstev0433

  • @Astrohhh
    @Astrohhh ปีที่แล้ว +359

    m0NESY is without a doubt one of the most naturally gifted players I've ever seen. His movement, awareness, and reaction time puts him in a different league, and I always find it funny when people accuse him of cheating. He has over 17k hours played.. more than some pros who have been playing competitively for over 10 years. The kid puts in so much work, and it's pretty cool to see him shining with a S-tier team. He's going to be the next s1mple.

    • @Cr4zy4pple
      @Cr4zy4pple ปีที่แล้ว +7

      b-b-but simple was banned before on alt account and has a billion suspicious clips lol

    • @Vinicantstopcrying
      @Vinicantstopcrying ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@Cr4zy4pple
      Anyone can be banned in alter ACC. I once downloaded cheat to test how it looks just to test so I wouldn't accuse everyone of a cheater in my main account..... Testing cheats in alter ACC made me understand who are real cheater or just ( good player/smurf) accurately.....I deleted the account after playing 10 competitive games and it got a game ban later.

    • @Cr4zy4pple
      @Cr4zy4pple ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vinicantstopcrying and that's fine cus u aren't deceiving your audience. He hides cheats for a living, pathetic

    • @akeeMM
      @akeeMM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vinicantstopcrying It was ESIC.

    • @Satanascs
      @Satanascs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah i think monesy is just good

  • @WilCraft624
    @WilCraft624 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Looking forward for part 2. Great job keep up the good work!

  • @cradleofgoth
    @cradleofgoth ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Wow, someone discussing cheating without accusing everyone possible and without using made up terms, like a breath of fresh air! Good stuff, although I'm sad you didn't include KQLY, I think if you exclude recency bias he's much better known than forsaken.

    • @LE0619
      @LE0619 ปีที่แล้ว

      except those "terms" arent made up, ur just not smart enough to understand.

    • @cradleofgoth
      @cradleofgoth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LE0619 technically every single term is made up

    • @LE0619
      @LE0619 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cradleofgoth yea no ur wrong, u dont know what ur talking about

    • @kamay7021
      @kamay7021 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would he bring up KQLY? KQLY is known for cheating already

    • @cradleofgoth
      @cradleofgoth ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Kamay because if you want to prove others are cheating without anticheat software, you need to look for clues in people who you know were cheating.

  • @Slimewp
    @Slimewp ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Love the editing and Documentary-esc style of the video. Would love to see more like this

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thanks, I think I will do videos like this every so often

  • @casp3r190
    @casp3r190 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I really enjoyed this video, very nicely explained, nicely edited, a lot of information, especially for leaf mouse jump on overpass thing that you did, you explained step by step what could have been leaf's logic and why he played like this, liked this vid, hopefully we will see more, and some more info about Akuma matches, the tournament had no anti-cheat which you mentioned, but you didn't mention that the GOTV had no delay, so people would probably ghost another team, and a lot of people accused Akuma players to use a radar hack, but most likely they were ghosting due to GOTV having no delay, but still a very nice video, keep up the good work man :D

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks Casp3r, didn't even realize that they didn't have a GOTV delay, knowing that it's very possible that they may have had something overlaid on their screens.

  • @AARININ
    @AARININ ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very nice video mr nohyper. I will honestly wait for part 2 because I didn't know about some of the pro players scandals that you told about in this vid.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you aarinin, part 2 will come out at some point. might make it a series

  • @zenchanted5110
    @zenchanted5110 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    very well made video man, i really like this editing style so keep it up. i would like a series about this cus this is a definetly interesting category of cs:go

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Zenchanted, appreciate that

  • @p0sitv3s27
    @p0sitv3s27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Kind of weird for a CS:GO cheater to comment on genuinely a good players skill level. If you're cheating in CS, you're terrible at the game, so it's obvious that when legit players do stuff you need hacks for, you'll think they're also cheating.

    • @Tuho420
      @Tuho420 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thats not true 😂

    • @p0sitv3s27
      @p0sitv3s27 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tuho420 It absolutely is.
      If I can play completely legit at a level that you need cheats to play at, you're going to hackusate me because I'm doing what you can only do while cheating.
      This is mainly directed towards closet cheaters, aka "legit cheaters" - the ones who try to play it off like they're not cheating.

    • @Tuho420
      @Tuho420 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@p0sitv3s27 bro... im silver without cheats and i know how it looks to play insanely good and 95% of legit cheaters are obivious but its idea is to not get overwatch banned

    • @p0sitv3s27
      @p0sitv3s27 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Tuho420 You're.. THE LOWEST RANK without cheats and you know how it looks to play insanely good??????? No, no you do not.

  • @souls4781
    @souls4781 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very good video my man! I watched through it all😊 I can’t wait to see how much the future will bring to this channel :D subscribed :)

  • @ADHDmeds
    @ADHDmeds ปีที่แล้ว +3

    really good video did not expect such a high quality video from you definitely make a part 2 would watch it 100%

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you narcian

    • @ZumbieRUST
      @ZumbieRUST ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoHyper [he is implying your videos arent high quality] (144p gang)

  • @t3h51d3w1nd3r
    @t3h51d3w1nd3r ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There was also no delay in streaming the matches to the public, so Akuma could have been using that too, plus I don’t think they recorded players in game info so it’s hard to know what everyone was doing.

  • @y-qp9rw
    @y-qp9rw ปีที่แล้ว +16

    it's always been insane and hilarious to me how everyone in the region already knew forsaken was a cheater and his understanding of the game was leagues worse than any of the other players in the Indian competitive scene and Optic still decided to pick him up.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      as if orgs give a shit whether their players are cheating

    • @mkzhero
      @mkzhero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah. People just overlook it completely all the time in the pro scene, usually it's only when stuff gets too blatant too often that anyone reacts at all. Forsaken was cheating for like TWO HOURS with some very blatant moments, but they allowed him to keep playing and there was no vac detection either, so both the anti cheat and spectators missed or ignored it it entirely.

  • @pretzelhugs3751
    @pretzelhugs3751 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, only thing that I noticed was leafs "monster flick" the reason I think it was so fast was he was crouched for the spam and uncrouched when he adjusted his xhair up after spraying so it just looked like a big adjustment for only a minute adjustment

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have flicked further than that in 1 tick, it can cause some funny looking issues with gotv demos

  • @vvsKap
    @vvsKap ปีที่แล้ว +14

    editing is great in this video, i’d love to see more content like this, keep up the great work man!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks qubicall

  • @thetrashycan
    @thetrashycan ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Well edited but I think it would be more interesting to investigate cases like JW admitting to pasha that his team was cheating and a lot of the other 2012-2013 cheating/throwing cases and those where it's possible people could have cheated on LAN. Also the smoke bug where you can see someone through it is caused by a nade going off in the smoke

    • @briankim7442
      @briankim7442 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      wait what?? JW admitted cheating? I cant believe so... JW is still playing now a days. no one would allow a confessed cheater to keep playing

    • @purplepew3247
      @purplepew3247 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@briankim7442 his team*

    • @sharktheprez
      @sharktheprez ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Gonna need a link or source for that JW thing. Wtf?

    • @erty2389
      @erty2389 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That didnt happen

    • @Psycho345
      @Psycho345 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharktheprez th-cam.com/video/T379cF9yud8/w-d-xo.html

  • @septicai9809
    @septicai9809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing video, keep doing these on csgo or other games, very good break downs and research.

  • @coco-pj2he
    @coco-pj2he ปีที่แล้ว +5

    very nice video, love the work and the change in content, keep it up and we'd love to see more videos like this!

  • @lolwhatever7307
    @lolwhatever7307 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imo the most insane thing about akuma drama was gambit destroying blantant cheaters in an unfair fight. It just shows how ridiculously good they were during the online era

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      they might've switch on and off, no clue obviously but it would be impressive if they were still cheating and gambit smashed them

  • @bluefish808
    @bluefish808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, would love to see more in this style.

  • @brizzain7618
    @brizzain7618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these types of videos, I would like to see more of this in the future. earned a sub :)

  • @mnss8247
    @mnss8247 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    would like a 2nd part, also great video!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I'm probably going to make one, it just takes so long to make videos like this

  • @Vulcan1k
    @Vulcan1k ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I have never liked cheating in games and I dislike the people that do but I respect you for your entertaining videos and how you teach people about the cheats and provide good insight into how they work. I would love to see more of these videos

    • @chronickush420
      @chronickush420 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Biggest npc comment

    • @gusfalk
      @gusfalk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chronickush420 ye

    • @doktormozg
      @doktormozg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chronickush420 sit

    • @chronickush420
      @chronickush420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doktormozg this keyboard playing cheating crackhead tryna tell me what to do😂

    • @chronickush420
      @chronickush420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doktormozg lay down the pipe bro😂🤣

  • @scorchone2310
    @scorchone2310 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your editing and production on this video it’s so smooth and easy to watch, super well done

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man :)

  • @bol9332
    @bol9332 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is like one of my favorite videos on youtube. Great job!

  • @Megu02
    @Megu02 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video is very well made! Very enjoyable to watch!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you Megu

  • @athena.bismuth980
    @athena.bismuth980 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Super interesting perspective we don't get to hear from often. Thanks for sharing your insights!

  • @unboxingabayonet4154
    @unboxingabayonet4154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually really interesting! Been here since 1k, man! Content still good as ever!

  • @Oscarwienberg
    @Oscarwienberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that youre trying something new and higher quality

  • @SnowsRevenge
    @SnowsRevenge ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great Video NoHyper Keep Up the work king!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks snows

    • @uatmovius
      @uatmovius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @futuristic-
    @futuristic- ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Cheating as a pro is so messed up

    • @monliz9964
      @monliz9964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pov: Controller players in fortnite 😵😵😵

    • @freerobuxgotomychannel7179
      @freerobuxgotomychannel7179 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@monliz9964 pov: pc players against console

    • @monliz9964
      @monliz9964 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@freerobuxgotomychannel7179 pov: most of pro players that use controllers are using zen 😲😳

  • @memes3591
    @memes3591 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m absolutely loving this style of video form you please do more

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      ty man, I probably will do more

  • @bAs7ar0
    @bAs7ar0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep it up man! I would like to see more video like this!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      More will come

  • @thepowerlies
    @thepowerlies ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It always baffles me how Forsaken got so far without anyone noticing the lack of skill

    • @thatcooldudeisawesome876
      @thatcooldudeisawesome876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was still an extremely skilled player just with cheats ontop

    • @AkshatSTR8EDGE
      @AkshatSTR8EDGE ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thatcooldudeisawesome876 extremely skilled player? No he wasnt. His awareness and aim sucked man 💀

    • @mikehunt7410
      @mikehunt7410 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatcooldudeisawesome876 He was cheating in pugs and qualifiers. He's a bucket of feces.

  • @antond131
    @antond131 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    For the case of flusha just look at all the times he messed up, when you play on the biggest stage for that long ofc you gonna hit and do insane stuff

    • @Cornell90
      @Cornell90 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the laugh. Keep being ignorant

    • @dabunnykilla2
      @dabunnykilla2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, the clear case for me that he was cheating was on mirage where he shot through the wall with no indication a player was there

    • @oat1000
      @oat1000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dabunnykilla2 it's a common spot, and flusha knew where he was. Not too crazy for him to take a couple pot shots to try and get a lucky kill

    • @Nooraksi
      @Nooraksi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@dabunnykilla2 biggest indication here is that you are a silver bot!!!

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As I always say about Flusha If he was cheating he was smart and got out early before he could get caught

  • @NatMG
    @NatMG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have really good content creation skills, not even joking if you made more videos similar to this your channel could be huge

  • @dawnpi
    @dawnpi ปีที่แล้ว

    this video was so soothing im ngl, im super high and ur voice is so soothing, and it feels like a horror story in the tone of ur voice. and csgo cheating is stuff ive been on and covered so i was also so interested.

  • @hammond9866
    @hammond9866 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nohyper: is / was flusha cheating
    Nohyper : shows not even one sus flusha clip

  • @ZachAscend
    @ZachAscend ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I was very upset with the Leaf situation. I understand that some of the clips looked suspicious but a lot of MIBR fans were sending death threats to all of the members of Chaos. Which was obviously a horrible reaction especially considering there were only accusations, nothing was ever proven.

    • @Yamatsu7
      @Yamatsu7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Chaos team was so good that after rising up like crazy they all left csgo 1 year after. Clearly cheats.

    • @ens8361
      @ens8361 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Yamatsu7 yeah but 3/5 of the team including leaf is now in tier one valorant, NA cs was dying at the time and it was common place for many players to switch over due to the uncertainty of the online era. Hella players left, Stewie, Ethan, and Jamppi. Are they cheaters? No, you’re arguement is terrible

    • @timeoutguy
      @timeoutguy ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ens8361 Something that makes Chaos players more suspicious is the fact that a few minutes before the match, the odds for Chaos to win in bets dropped a lot, that is, a large amount of money was bet on them. In the game against Team One, there are also several clips that prove that they are cheaters

    • @coolissimo69
      @coolissimo69 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chaos were cheating

    • @coolissimo69
      @coolissimo69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timeoutguy ofc ,they were cheating. Not only with MIBR also against other Brazilian teams with more obvious locks by xeepaa and leanf especially at train map.

  • @prasannagunit
    @prasannagunit ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! the music, narration, research are spot on. Subbed!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you :)

    • @Han-D4ror2
      @Han-D4ror2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hes a fucking hacker in csgo unsub. 🙂

  • @alejandroflanagan1141
    @alejandroflanagan1141 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, would love a part 2

  • @TiredCJ
    @TiredCJ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is interesting to watch, i know your a cheater but damn this is one hell of a Documentary style type of video. would like to see more and see your opinions on pros.
    (Story for short) i dont wanna be a guy that hates cheaters when i used to become a cheater once, only to be curious about tho since i did become one of the best OFW and CFW modding in the PS3 modding community, all i ever did is to enjoy the fun stuff and play games seriously then mod for experience or just being nosey if that makes sense, ever since i switched from console to PC was a new learning path for me, tho back then when i used to dislike modding alot more than it should've been. i find out about CSGO cheats and HvH's n stuff like that, tho i wasn't that interested but i also could learn a thing too, so i did what i did and cheat on it, honestly changed my mind a little bit more. tho its boring to cheat nowadays and cheating / modding. i kinda wanna bring entertainment at its finest. I'll always be a cheater but i generally dont wanna touch them anymore and become a pro player or just an entertainer for streaming or videos itself.
    also again, this video do change my views on other ppl but i quite enjoy this style Documentary.

  • @cuylshepherdton7437
    @cuylshepherdton7437 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Flusha was undoubtedly cheating for a period of time. Obviously he stopped after everyone kept calling him out.

    • @DaddyDagoth
      @DaddyDagoth ปีที่แล้ว +4

      100%. Most players from 2013-2016 were cheating and blatently so.

    • @MrFlejon
      @MrFlejon ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's funny how back then, people laughed at you when you said he was cheating. "They're just that good". There are so many example of people using aimlock as wallhacks, because obviously you couldn't wallhack on lan because there was always someone looking at your screen.
      A lot of the insane flusha clips, you can definitely see a pattern: his crosshair first moves towards the enemy, he goes back to where he was looking, and then magically he kills someone through a smoke or a wall. I believe it is because he toggled for a split second to make sure an enemy is near, then toggles again to get a quick kill. Sometimes unfortunately for him, even though he toggled real quick, his opponent was close enough to magically and coincidently for his crosshair to be right on him through the wall.
      When you check for an angle, especially if you know someone is coming, you don't randomly move your crosshair in his direction, through a wall.
      It was blatant cheating.
      Shox did the same thing.
      They had the best "game sense" yet the are irrelevant now, when people like simple or Niko are still here and kicking ass, and we've never saw them do sketchy shit like this.
      Almost like all the sus players where actually cheating and had to stop because they got constantly accused

    • @CJBeamedYou
      @CJBeamedYou ปีที่แล้ว +1

      suprised how most youtube videos never use the blatent clips flusha has. Some of his cache clips are insane and make 0 sense

    • @MrFlejon
      @MrFlejon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CJBeamedYou there's a video called proverwatch #2 that goes over one of the cache clips. It's in my eyes an undeniable evidence he was cheating. It's made by a German hacker and it's really well made

    • @ericcotter1984
      @ericcotter1984 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DaddyDagoth evidence?

  • @dabest7405
    @dabest7405 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most enjoyable videos I've watched in a long while, good work

  • @no_alias_for_me
    @no_alias_for_me 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The "tracking players in smokes" - thing is a quite common occurrence I have to say. It happened to me and my team. In 99% of the cases it's due to the smoke bug.

  • @revan22
    @revan22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is actually bothering me is how cheating is even possible in a tournament. Just import your CS go settings on a competition PC on which the players can't add anything like a certain program called word.exe, they can choose the mouse etc. I don't see the problem with that. That way you can be sure no one is cheating.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well there are DMA cheats, basically hardware cheats that are installed into a mouse or something like that. Letting them have any control would mean letting them have an avenue to cheat.

  • @ax3
    @ax3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    so proud of you brother

  • @ChaosCSGO
    @ChaosCSGO ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this type of video and that intro was really sweet 💯

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      ty chaos

  • @Mr.TsarBomba
    @Mr.TsarBomba 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these videos! I would love it if you could make more of these commentary videos! Literally the best TH-cam videos that I know of. Maybe you could make a CSGO cheats evolution like Golden did, however since you're a cheater yourself I think it would make it 200% more interesting ♥️

  • @Photek24
    @Photek24 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    theres only one pro ive ever suspected and it was flusha. his clip on cache where he just randomly flicks through the wall onto a player from the ct entrance of tree room through b main is something i cant explain. im sad you didnt go over that and similar clips from flusha during that one event.

  • @alexanderibakke5659
    @alexanderibakke5659 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The m0nesy clip doesnt come from "backtracking" its simply the ping diff from the server to the spectator or tick output diff which is usually 128-64 on official tournaments. Additionally the bullet in cs doesnt necessearily land where the crosshair is when flicking very fast, but instead where the crosshair "wouldve" ended up as the unscoping of the awp happens a few ticks earlier than the shot. this can be seen in a lot of awp clips from pros or fast casual awpers alike.
    anyway great video!

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1. the unscoping doesnt happen before the shot, it happens on the same tick as the shot. the bullet then has an animation of a couple frames but this is irrelevant to when or where the shot hits. if there is any delay in the awp unscoping and when the shot actually hits this is just ping and nothing else. unless you are playing with multithreaded rendering on, which will render interpolated frames in which your input isnt processed. this setting is useless, it only adds input lag, makes your input lag more variable, and increases your pc's power consumption by rendering interpolated frames that dont do anything. no one should play with this setting on, no matter how bad your pc is.
      2. the bullet isnt fired at where the crosshair would have ended up, it in fact fires at the spot where your crosshair was at the START of the current game tick. where you move your crosshair during the tick is irrelevant. the position is only updated at the start of the next game tick. this is how source engine works.
      this is also one of the main reasons why csgo, and source engine games in general, have bad hitreg and feel delayed. other shooters such as reflex, quake, unreal, or anything based on quake or unreal engines, dont have this problem, they actually keep track of how far you move your crosshair during a tick before you press M1.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah the whole play looked legit, some lucky shots for sure but definitely legit.

  • @tr1ckster726
    @tr1ckster726 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was dope as hell, I watched the whole thing start to finish. Nice work.

  • @vanster8714
    @vanster8714 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can remodify your ingame files for the radar actually to not only show cts on radar all time, but also enemy team aswell. Basically knowing the position of the enemy all times. This is still a thing some people use for Counter strike Source but I do not know if it is a thing for CSGO.

  • @BobBobson-gv3ol
    @BobBobson-gv3ol ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone with over 200 hours on csgo and a $20 dollar headset from wish I can confirm that anyone who has killed me was cheating.

    • @Rpgreat
      @Rpgreat ปีที่แล้ว

      15k hours and alot of play with and against the best players ever before everyone could cheat here. I also know programmers that has worked on big cheats and all pros 100% cheat in every round for 6-7 years at least. Most of them for more than that :) And that is a fact.

    • @BobBobson-gv3ol
      @BobBobson-gv3ol ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rpgreat 15k hours and you still think everyone is a cheater. That is real sad bro. Like hall of fame sad.

    • @Rpgreat
      @Rpgreat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BobBobson-gv3ol I literally know coders of one of the most popular cheats. Not one pro is clean in any game for many years. But WP being so unintelligent and extremely bad at the game that you can't understand that people are cheating when their aim goes crazy and locks on to 10 heads through the walls every game XD

    • @BobBobson-gv3ol
      @BobBobson-gv3ol ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rpgreat don’t change your story legend. “All pros 100% cheat.” I don’t think it’s me who’s bad at the game. 15k hours and everyone’s locking onto heads. Man what were you doing for 15k hours playing casual hostage or something 😂😂

    • @Rpgreat
      @Rpgreat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BobBobson-gv3ol Changed NOTHING in my story and you are an idiot. It's like I'm telling you wrestling is rigged and you trying to say I'm bad at wrestling XD WTF

  • @anu1776
    @anu1776 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    monesy is honestly just to good, we've all been there, when you're in flowstate mode and absolutely wrecking people, i think that thats what happened in that clip, i also think he flicks so insanely fast, you dont always see it as a spectator

    • @christianb7125
      @christianb7125 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that guy is legit I’ve been watching him for a while and he is just naturally nasty

  • @m9wn_
    @m9wn_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another great video! I'm sure G-Dawg thinks otherwise, hes the one that reacted "do" on that stream message

  • @kaisur1107
    @kaisur1107 ปีที่แล้ว

    what music did you use for the back half of the Akuma analysis????

  • @Skillertvv_
    @Skillertvv_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the monesy clip you we're suspicious about: if you flick hard enough with the AWP it looks like you shot where the enemy is not anymore at, where in reality, you did shoot at the target.

    • @Skillertvv_
      @Skillertvv_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome video tho. don't take this as hate :)

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      The frame after the shot wasn’t on his either. Obviously there are a ton of different factors, online I think it the easiest to debunk the clip.

  • @YehNahYehAyy
    @YehNahYehAyy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a former LoL cheat platform/script developer I also find it so easy to recognize cheats in league of legends, I have never really got into CSGO or it's pro scene but I do enjoy the perspective you give.

    • @cambuurleeuwarden
      @cambuurleeuwarden ปีที่แล้ว

      Former? What made you stop? Also what kind of income did that generate?

    • @YehNahYehAyy
      @YehNahYehAyy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@cambuurleeuwarden I stopped because I lost interest when riot was really clamping down with their anti-cheat (They seem to not care again and scripting is growing once again) I don't remember exactly how much I would make but it was around 1.5 to 2k a week on average a few seasons back.

    • @cambuurleeuwarden
      @cambuurleeuwarden ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@YehNahYehAyy Thanks for replying mate. But I've got to say, with that kinda money i'd be pulling scripts out of my ass left and right if I knew how to do it.

    • @trashaccount5106
      @trashaccount5106 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cambuurleeuwardenI assume you'd have to register a business to legally make all this money, but then it'd be illegal because your business is profiting off of someone else's product and actively losing them players.

  • @zorrn92
    @zorrn92 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Would love to see part 2

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I'll probably make a part 2 in the future, they just take a long time to make

  • @HerzogMiku
    @HerzogMiku ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the Akuma vs 1Win Match the first clip is easily explainable since the bomb sends out waves on the radar when dropped and seen by a CT. As soon as someone picks up the Bomb the waves disappear leading him in knowing when they pick up the bomb and the position of one person.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but it doesn't show those waves for that long.

    • @HerzogMiku
      @HerzogMiku ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoHyper It does. You can see the bomb on the radar for 8 seconds and he killed the bomb carrier at 1:08 and looks at the radar last time at 1:01 so he could still see the waves clearly :)

  • @Deadmeatsz
    @Deadmeatsz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I believe the corruption runs very deep and that the whole cs go pro scene is a joke. i have seen both flusha and m0nesy track and flick to moving targets behind smoke/walls in unortodox/unpredictable positions and still hit more than a few times now for example. Also infolocks through walls seems to be very common amongst many pros.

  • @rr3zus
    @rr3zus ปีที่แล้ว +10

    chaos were 100% cheating

  • @sm0oth552
    @sm0oth552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watched the whole thing, great job man!

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks sm0oth

  • @CrocodileCane
    @CrocodileCane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like this video i hope u dont cheat in the future, this kind of content is good, nice investigation

  • @alreadydeadxx2120
    @alreadydeadxx2120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sadly I don’t believe there is a way to test true skill in gaming anymore. Unless there was a LAN league that pre bought hardware for all contestants before hand, but that will never happen.

  • @ShunaKagami
    @ShunaKagami ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A part 2 of Chaos' cheating stuff would be more than welcome
    There's a clip where someone from Chaos tries to wallbang a mibr player throught that "wooden thing" on B site, but the angle he tried isn't "wallbangable"

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      B site on which map? Plus in a high intensity situation, are brains can just do things we normally wouldn’t. I’d have to see the clip to give my opinion

    • @ShunaKagami
      @ShunaKagami ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoHyper On Overpass. The only place I could find the clip is in this Brazilian Edit inspired by SuperstituM th-cam.com/video/TVI3DMWx5Zo/w-d-xo.html (already with timestemp in the link) Also, there's a guy trying to replicate the wallbang after, he's a Brazilian Caster who find it sus while casting and went in game to checks it

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShunaKagami It is weird but you also have to consider that he was just trying to shoot someone into the cubby and the guy in front of his crosshair and just there by chance.

    • @ShunaKagami
      @ShunaKagami ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoHyper ye that what I thought, well.. These guy are in Valorant now, right? For me its proves that they didn't cheat, but a video of the topic (or a part 2 of this one) would be welcome for sure :DD

    • @bruno7912
      @bruno7912 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShunaKagami Go to 02:00 of the video you send and tell me again this guys ain't cheating lol

  • @s0te
    @s0te 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know I'm 9 months late, but I just want to appreciate how good it is to see this perspective from a cheater, this video made me question my hate for CHAOS in 2020, I was young and very biased as a MIBR fan, and never saw how dumb Xeppaa's "wall tracking" actually was, and all the leaf's clips too.. Good work!!
    You should make a video on Brazil's most controversial player, aspas, that was banned in competitive CSGO here, and then moved to valorant, there he is the best BR player of the game to this day, but still is accused of being an ex-CSGO cheater.

  • @aevirann
    @aevirann ปีที่แล้ว +1

    loved the video, underrated content creator for sure

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate that tuna :)

  • @philipp594
    @philipp594 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There has been a ton of cheating on a pro level. BYOC has always been problematic (there was even a hardware cheat soldered to a ddr2 memory module in the CS Source days). Then when they went to provided pcs we had the workshop cheats, the rubber ducky USB exploits (in mice and keyboards). Tons of amphetamine (adderall) use. Now we have coaching bug / other exploits and match fixing.
    The community is just toxic and it goes all the way to the top. We should have a zero tolerance policy for cheating but instead you find f**king cheaters in ever 3rd-5th match.

  • @nzdanrah
    @nzdanrah 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm by no means a pro, but started out my online FPS life as a 10 year old putting many hours into Quake 1 / Quake World Team Fortress on Dialup. Moved on to early beta versions of counterstrike and then many hours in 1.6 & Source including online tournaments, and also putting in many hours into Battlefield 3 & 4.
    Even then, in my 26 years of casual gaming I would have clocked in 10 - 15 hours per week = call it 15,000 hours in my life. You completely zone out, not only does aiming become instinctual (split second flick shots quicker than you even realize it's happened) but also reading the game by combining radar and multiple sound sources, a high level of game sense.
    Yet this Monesy fella for example has 16,000 just in one game, and he's only 18. That amount of hours at such a young age where the brain is going through advanced cognitive development, no wonder he's owning.

  • @wolf-xf6hf
    @wolf-xf6hf ปีที่แล้ว

    First video of yours I’ve seen and it was fantastic I loved every second of it

  • @noelyap7141
    @noelyap7141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i don’t know about the checking radar thing since i look at the radar way too often too, no matter what i’m clearing. but it does look kinda sus

  • @RCGhozt
    @RCGhozt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m always looking at map/radar to see where enemies are throughout the game.

    • @chagrargupta7262
      @chagrargupta7262 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you aren't looking at the radar in a 1vx after your teammates have been dead for 5+ seconds I'll tell you that.

  • @PWNHUB
    @PWNHUB ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing is it wasn't long ago that like FaZe and Optic etc would have videos playing in modded lobbies etc for content.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn’t mean that it would go into the professional play. Plus I feel like modded lobbies are one of those types of cheating that’s acceptable. Similar to people that make videos on 2B2T, the anarchy Minecraft server.

  • @HavokR505
    @HavokR505 ปีที่แล้ว

    something to note. ive had multiple Deathadders do the jumping crosshair thing so theres also that to consider.

  • @MegaTombuscus
    @MegaTombuscus ปีที่แล้ว

    I know I'm a few months late to this but on the monesy clip it can be more than just the game being played online cus I've seen it on LAN spectator perspective before where the flick is faster than the spectators game can really register so it looks like they didn't flick the whole way but from their perspective they did

  • @TheMe9595
    @TheMe9595 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The levelheaded approach to figuring out cheaters is really nice to see. People react so passionately and call everything they don’t understand cheating but in a lot of cases, with the proper context, things aren’t suspicious at all. There is definitely a cheating problem in a lot of these games but screaming cheater at every clip isn’t going to fix that issue.

    • @Cornell90
      @Cornell90 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the laugh monkey.

  • @THEMONSTEREXE
    @THEMONSTEREXE ปีที่แล้ว

    This is interesting, as for your flusha review. I too do not think he's cheating. I remember seeing a clip from an interview where he stated something along the lines of "... I've been playing this game for so long you kind of just know, what your opponents are going to do." Now, I'm no professional, but playing since CS as a kid till now. I find I also shoot randomly, stare at walls waiting for any info. crazy

    • @Rpgreat
      @Rpgreat ปีที่แล้ว

      He is literally doing things that only cheaters do, because of the cheat they are using. Are you saying you believe he uses cheats but is not cheating? XDDDDD

  • @CanadianOutdoors4Life
    @CanadianOutdoors4Life 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do they cheat at the events where they go to the venue? Would they not just get destroyed then and it be obvious? Does anyone have insight? Awesome video though just had some questions as I've never been close to tier 1 in gaming.

  • @NotoriousBBB
    @NotoriousBBB หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do wonder how thorough the hardware checks can be. In the world of normal sports steroids and PEDs are commonly checked for but the tests are easily bypassed .

  • @apocalypse94
    @apocalypse94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the monesy clip u showed is a 64 replay vs 128 server tickrate issue, has been a thing in csgo since the start afai can remember

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that could also have been the reason

  • @bakatraitless
    @bakatraitless ปีที่แล้ว

    W content. Refreshing to see an in-depth perspective like this.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you baka, I appreciate that

  • @ScammedKid420
    @ScammedKid420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    those clips where someone aims at someone thru a wall are usually all just accidents, most cheaters would hide their cheats as much as they can and no aimbot will do that

  • @elknuckles9955
    @elknuckles9955 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video nohyper keep it up!❤

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      ty man

  • @danielbyrne7534
    @danielbyrne7534 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The monesy clip can happen for so many reasons, tick rate, refresh rate, bad demo, etc it’s so unlikely to be the backtrack

  • @michaelfreemanbaseball7672
    @michaelfreemanbaseball7672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Monesy’s case the awp can kill even if the crosshairs is off particularly when at close range and scoped in, and as you stated it’s only been the one play that was questionable.

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’ll only do that when you’re in motion, he wasn’t.

    • @CKr14
      @CKr14 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure it was just slight lag on the Spectator side

  • @wagwan6935
    @wagwan6935 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a lot of hours in fps, and everyone does things that look like they are cheating occasionally at a high level. It’s consistency or blatant signs that really prove it.

  • @nocompetition777
    @nocompetition777 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the name of the song that started playing at 7:20 ??

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว

      All the music I used is exclusively on epidemicsound, so you wouldn’t be able to find it unfortunately.

  • @voltreyt
    @voltreyt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amazing video bro, good work

    • @NoHyper
      @NoHyper  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ty Voltre :)

  • @SomeRandomBeeGuy
    @SomeRandomBeeGuy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Make more "A Cheaters Perspective" this is very good to listen because of your voice!

  • @spamacc21
    @spamacc21 ปีที่แล้ว

    oahh man cmon i wanted to quit CSGO cheating tehn I saw this video and my pation and flames for the CSGO HvH community got lit up again like no one gives a damn but i started in 2017 and then started to code my own cheats in 2018-2019 but in like late 2021 I lost all my motivation or something and after this video which has like no context to what I was doing it just brung my motivation back thanks my guy never stop making videos

  • @Radars
    @Radars ปีที่แล้ว

    It's also worth noting that Forsaken was busted using EzFrags, so it's pretty clear he had no idea what he was doing.

  • @xxemericxx
    @xxemericxx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you think of flusha shot vs seized? Locking through 2 walls?

  • @WiffHvH
    @WiffHvH ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you found the perfect style of content, no skeet invite needed.

  • @philipprollmann4442
    @philipprollmann4442 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very nice and insightful but the backround musik is often much to loud so i cant understand what you´re saying.