Mav Dad! One the best watch review channels on YT. Concise, and you cover everything. Now for the Sumo, . . . I like the Blumo better. I can't believe the price. For that price it should come with a Strapcode bracelet already on it! Those pins and collars are ridiculous. The new Sumo is in the price range for a lot of other great buys that are good to go out of box. One last rant - I really never liked that narrow bracelet either. I think it should be a 22mm. Beautiful watch if they could take care of some of the other issues. Thanks for getting this out there though!!
I bought the Sapphire Hulk Sumo 2 nights ago. Thanks for the review. I was sadly surprised to see no upgrade in the bracelet clasp. Otherwise, the new Sumo looks like a winner.
I got mine a couple of hours ago from my trusted AD for only 650usd here in the Philippines... and... I. am. in. love! It's just like when I got my hands on an Alpinist a couple of years ago and I got so giddy afterwards haha. It's really beautiful in person.
The 3rd generation is definitely a more elegant piece, fonts and indexes are much more proportionate. Sapphire crystal and movement justify a price increase however at the moment the watch is quite expensive, probably once the novelty factor fades it will get more competitive...today I tried the black dial version and it fits great even on a small wrist, I suspect mainly necause the 20mm bracelet.
I bought the black dial too cos this colorway makes the watch look smaller. I reckon the price of Sumo is much more reasonable compared to Seiko's recent divers.
I've ordered the black Sumo Gen3 today... in a special japan edition with AR coated Saphire... in Germany for 699 €... this is so a beautiful watch, no silly hommage like Steinhart & friends..... but pure Seiko 👍... this watch feel so organic on the wrist like no other... ♥️
I took delivery of one last Thursday. I absolutely love it! A total beauty! According to the AD, Halifax Watch Company, mine is the first of the third generation Jade Sumos, sold in Canada. Pre-sale provenance: I'll take that!
Sold everwhere? Not in Europe. German official seiko dealers offers the green version meanwhile for around 700 Euros, starting over 900 euros 1 month ago.
I just brought one! I think the price is cheap! Compared my swiss watches! I managed to get mine at £610. How's is that expensive for a watch like that? All I hear is this watch is soooo expensive! Try getting your head around a 2 tone Rolex daytona (which I own) for £13k. All my watches have screwed linked with no holes in the lugs. Its time for a change, as I'm after more of a vintage bracelet nowadays. This watch is a winner for me in all criteria! Credit to Seiko!
Mine arrived this week Mav, managed to save around £115 on my order over here in England. The watch is absolutely beautiful, so glad I pulled the trigger.
I've just been to Japan and talked with the Seiko salesman in the shop, they say this piece is actually very popular. Since they did not have a descent 800~900 USD range diver in the market. this upgraded SUMO seems to satisfy many customers. 70hr power reserve very competitive with the Swatch, thinner case, and sapphire glass + bezel and hands improvements etc... 200 bucks more i can certainly pay. Shame on the clasp really, but the bracelet is OKAY for this money, and the case is one of the finest among turtle, samurai and all other mid-low diver lineups...
You may be the first guy to do a Gen3 - Gen 2 comparison. Great idea. My Gen 2 Sumo was the first "real" watch I ever bought. I believe that the Sumo was about the best watch you could buy for $500. But $850? Uh Uh. You can buy fancier Seikos than this for $850. This isn't the value/bargain the Sumo has always been. And I like the look of the original models. This one doesn't even "look" like a Sumo.
I like the new sumo because it looks like the green marine master! The down side of the new sumo is hard to find good replacement bracelet to fit the watch!
I bought my 2nd gen Sumo for just over $400, at that price it is an excellent watch and I wear it frequently. At $800 I don't think it's worth buying unless you absolutely need one because you love the design. Get the 2nd gen Sumo while you still can.
I like the second generation one. I am not sure I will completely loose the 200mts water resistance if I change it to a sapphire crystal probably I will and I am not sure I want to open the watch. The second generation looks bigger because of the font size
Love Seiko Prospex watches, this one is overpriced. New movement and sapphire crystal is definitely a upgrade but bracelet is still stamped metal. More like a $525 watch. Good review!
Nice review. I have a 2nd Gen Sumo. I personally like this 3rd Gen better but It’s twice the price. sapphire and 20 more hours of power reserve is not worth twice the price. This Sumo is now around the same price as the 62MAS inspired line and the Baby Marine Master. For $800 plus I would go for them. I interested to see if this new movement will replace the 6r15. It’s still a 21,6000 BPH movement and has the same rated accuracy of -15 to +25.
Beautiful watch almost as good looking as the green Oris Aquis. If i had known this watch was coming i wouldnt habe purchase thd green aquis almost 3 times the price. Also the power reserve kills the aquis. 800$ its a bargain for me. 70 HOURS wow.
Double the price of the sbdc031/33 for a sapphire and extra 20 hrs pr is not justifiable I'm sorry. Also stamped clasp on a $850 watch is not excusable. Certina DS sells for $599 with no shortcomings, and there are much better Swiss alternatives in the $600-1,000 range.
I love the look of the 3rd gen Sumo, but I find it amazing just how many reviewers think that by adding a sapphire crystal (tons of much cheaper watches come with sapphire) and the additional power reserve justifies the high (IMHO) price. I get it is a new movement, and 70 hour power reserve is very impressive, but the older Sumo has a 50 hour power reserve, and the 6R35 is not more accurate or tougher that the 6R15. Exact same movement with the exception of the power reserve.
They've doubled the price, which is insane and foolish imo. The Sumo became popular because for $420 you couldn't find a better finished watch (other than the cheap clasp). Now double the price with some minor "upgrades" and the same cheap clasp? No thank you Seiko.
I just bought one in mint condition used for just over $300 US. I think the 2nd hand price shows that Seiko's price hikes haven't gone down well at all.
Just ordered one brand new in chrono24 for 670 euros. I also ordered a decent steel strap from strapcode( a bit pricy tho) now just missing get a ceramic bezel and he's good to go :) great review!
I bought the green seiko at a Seiko boutique for $850. It lists the 6R35 movement, newer indices, no S on crown ( all indicators of a Gen 3) but NOWHERE does it say Sapphire crystal on the caseback or on the dial. It this an oversight in marking, or should I be concerned?
Hey Mav, awesome review. I noticed that you mentioned that the bracelet is 18mm? is that at the clasp? but Gnomon watches have it listed at 20mm? Just wanted to know for sure... i have loads of 20mm straps which would look good on the new sumo.
I love the watch it's stunning but it's true could have been better. With those additions would be perfect. However who pays full wack it's easy to find it discounted
Is this new 3rd gen thinner than the 2nd gen Sumo? My Blumo is 13.5 mm thick and the new Sumo is 12.9 . Also the Blumo next to the new Sumo looks bigger than the newer Sumo. Is just me or I’m I seeing it incorrectly?
Why should they? But a green (!!!!!) dial on a watch - amazing, sensational. Oh, its rare? Sure, green solor is much much more expensive as Pblack or bluse. Price difference sapphire to hardlex for the largest watch manufacturer in the worrld -maybe 20 dollars. Anyway, lets double the Price - sheep will buy.
Mav Dad, great review. The watch is over priced IMHO. The sapphire chrystal, upgraded movement is welcomed. For the price is should come with a upgraded bracelet. The complete package would warrant the price increase.
I don't know why they don't update the SKX. I may be in the wrong crowd here, but the Sumo looks so bad to me. They will sell out if they update the SKX and keep the Turtle coming out with new colors, and not just the Save the Ocean variants...
If they update the sxk series, the price would be at least 300 bucks a piece maybe close to 400. Look how it went with the new sumo and the new arita presage.
All those upgrades should have come without the price increase. Seiko is trying to position themselves on a more luxury spot on the market. Not sure if this will work out for them. I am certainly not interested in a Sumo at that price point.
Federico It's 21,600 bph. I also love how Blake Taylor still doesn't realize that he's blocked on my channel lmao. He leaves comments but doesn't realize that if he logs out and checks to see if those comments are there he'll see they're actually not. What a complete dumbass lmao.
Seriously? Stamped clasp on a $850 watch? Honestly I used to like Seiko, but their recent pricing shenanigans is ridiculous. I know the company is trying to move upmarket, but this is not the way to do so.
Yeah, I have the Samurai for $400 and it has the same bracelet and it's ok for that price range. The only problem with it is the diver extension sticking out and digging into the side of my wrist, it should be flush against the inside of the bracelet or a racheting extension or none at all. They should really up their game with the quality for the higher priced models.
Sapphire crystal is not what you want on a watch you use for scuba diving. Sapphire is more scratch resistant yes, but is not so shatter resistant as Hardlex, and it is a watch with a crystal more resistant against shattering and cracks you want for scuba diving. That said, most of these watches will never be used for diving, so the practical properties is not so important as its looks for most buyers. Cheers.
For me the dial looks like Sumo on a diet, everything looks thinner/smaller, I like 2nd gen much more. $850 and pressed clasp, unsigned crown, pin and collar bracelet. NO. I wonder what's the accuracy of these new movements after 24h of resting. In 6R15 long power reserve is only theory. The reality is that after 24h without winding the accuracy is junk.
Buy this watch, if you love to waste money. $850 retail and a pressed clasp? Is Seiko losing their mind. Seiko is my favorite brand. But this is ridiculous. I wouldn’t buy this watch if I had 75% off. I can get a SKX007 or 009 for $200 or so. Want a good buy on a dive watch? Check out the orient mako XL. $129 on eBay. There probably isn’t 20% difference in quality from this watch. I could buy the whole XL line for the price of this watch. Seiko is famous for mediocre bracelets, but come on. I wouldn’t even buy the second generation, it wasn’t worth the money either. I’ve got a Seiko 5 55fathoms, Gold and black, way better looking and $140. Does this thing even have solid end links? I doubt it. Good job on the video but this watch is horrible. Good movement and sapphire but I can get all of that for a whole lot less.
For me, the older version is the better one. No signed crown? I mean, in this price-range? To sign the crown, costs 20 Cent for Seiko? The cheap looking and feeling standard Seiko clasp? Sapphire glass is great - but i have sapphire on my orient Triton - and the Price was about 400 Euros. 900 Euros for this Seiko? Thank, you, but in this pricerange I can have a Longines Hydro Conquest for example. Seiko is moving more an more away from that what it was - good watches for fair prices. OK, good for my wallet, helps me stop buying watches. I'm not willing to follow Seiko's pricing policy.
Nice watch but it's too much money for what your paying. They could at least give a nicer clasp but Seiko wants you to pay over thousand for those kind of "luxuries".
@@maverickwatchreviews szscoo4 prospex sumo green dial is the watch I bought on eBay there on there right now 6r movement for under 500 from Japan . It would be so easy to just look for yourself gezz. Ether we have to different watches are you got screwed
Yet another idiotic comment from you. This seems to be a pattern. I didn't buy the watch is was loaned to me for review. I have an idea, why don't you go be a moron on someone else's channel? You're simply too stupid to keep commenting on mine. Take care and thanks for watching!!!
Sorry but this watch is a rip off. The only upgrades are the sapphire crystal and longer power reserve. The hands and dial markers have all been reduced (scaled down; thinner and smaller). I’ll admit it looks better with the new bezel font and dial and hands (less cartoonish look). That green looks much better than photos. This is double the cost of the old Sumo though. For about the same price you can get other Seiko Prospex Divers with sapphire crystal, 6R15, diashield coating and much better bracelets with milled clasps. Seiko totally overpriced this watch. I don’t really see 70 hr vs a 50 hr power reserve as being an issue for most people, especially if it your only watch and it’s worn everyday. I’d save my money and go 6R15 all day long and buy a the previous model.
I tried one on today. Not worth the price tag. I've got a high end replica of an Omega 007 SeaMaster (review on channel) and the quality on the finish is much nicer. How can a big Japanese company not create a luxury finish when the replica makers can?
Serious? Replica. You just blew your whole argument with that. Who will take that or you seriously? BTW I just looked at one and the quality is there for the price of $850. To me looks much nicer than that price point.
Seiko just looks and feels cheap. I've had 2 that the damn face inside broke and began to spin inside the watch. Same price to repair as it is to buy. The bezels also end up having so much play in them one ended up being bi directional. Garbage
Mav Dad! One the best watch review channels on YT. Concise, and you cover everything. Now for the Sumo, . . . I like the Blumo better. I can't believe the price. For that price it should come with a Strapcode bracelet already on it! Those pins and collars are ridiculous. The new Sumo is in the price range for a lot of other great buys that are good to go out of box. One last rant - I really never liked that narrow bracelet either. I think it should be a 22mm. Beautiful watch if they could take care of some of the other issues. Thanks for getting this out there though!!
Thanks for the kind words! I agree that they definitely should have upgraded the bracelet for $850.00.
I really don't like 20mm straps. I sold mine for that reason.
I also prefer a 22m strap.
So what watch did you get instead?
I'm now looking for a watch in a price range of $600- $1000
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I like the 20mm bracelet on this watch. Watch is less heavy and helps giving a special look to the sumo
I bought the Sapphire Hulk Sumo 2 nights ago. Thanks for the review. I was sadly surprised to see no upgrade in the bracelet clasp. Otherwise, the new Sumo looks like a winner.
I got mine a couple of hours ago from my trusted AD for only 650usd here in the Philippines... and... I. am. in. love! It's just like when I got my hands on an Alpinist a couple of years ago and I got so giddy afterwards haha. It's really beautiful in person.
The 3rd generation is definitely a more elegant piece, fonts and indexes are much more proportionate. Sapphire crystal and movement justify a price increase however at the moment the watch is quite expensive, probably once the novelty factor fades it will get more competitive...today I tried the black dial version and it fits great even on a small wrist, I suspect mainly necause the 20mm bracelet.
I bought the black dial too cos this colorway makes the watch look smaller. I reckon the price of Sumo is much more reasonable compared to Seiko's recent divers.
Recieved mine today truly beautiful watch no need for the rolex this is the real man's hulk
I've ordered the black Sumo Gen3 today... in a special japan edition with AR coated Saphire... in Germany for 699 €... this is so a beautiful watch, no silly hommage like Steinhart & friends..... but pure Seiko 👍... this watch feel so organic on the wrist like no other... ♥️
I took delivery of one last Thursday. I absolutely love it! A total beauty! According to the AD, Halifax Watch Company, mine is the first of the third generation Jade Sumos, sold in Canada. Pre-sale provenance: I'll take that!
A lot of negative comments here but then, it is sold out everywhere. lol. Love the green dial, the upgraded sapphire and movement.
Sold everwhere? Not in Europe. German official seiko dealers offers the green version meanwhile for around 700 Euros, starting over 900 euros 1 month ago.
I just brought one! I think the price is cheap! Compared my swiss watches! I managed to get mine at £610. How's is that expensive for a watch like that? All I hear is this watch is soooo expensive! Try getting your head around a 2 tone Rolex daytona (which I own) for £13k. All my watches have screwed linked with no holes in the lugs. Its time for a change, as I'm after more of a vintage bracelet nowadays. This watch is a winner for me in all criteria! Credit to Seiko!
@@rollypolly4613 I would like to ask where do you get the watch for £610? Thanks.
Just bought mine. Love it.
Mine arrived this week Mav, managed to save around £115 on my order over here in England. The watch is absolutely beautiful, so glad I pulled the trigger.
Enjoy it!
Me to saved over 200 with discount codes from first class watches you can use multiple discount code sometimes.
Love a Sumo but i think i will keep my gen 1 Blumo. Keep up the great reviews.
I've just been to Japan and talked with the Seiko salesman in the shop, they say this piece is actually very popular.
Since they did not have a descent 800~900 USD range diver in the market. this upgraded SUMO seems to satisfy many customers.
70hr power reserve very competitive with the Swatch, thinner case, and sapphire glass + bezel and hands improvements etc... 200 bucks more i can certainly pay.
Shame on the clasp really, but the bracelet is OKAY for this money, and the case is one of the finest among turtle, samurai and all other mid-low diver lineups...
If they would just replace the bracelet with a milled clasp I'd be happy.
You may be the first guy to do a Gen3 - Gen 2 comparison. Great idea. My Gen 2 Sumo was the first "real" watch I ever bought. I believe that the Sumo was about the best watch you could buy for $500. But $850? Uh Uh. You can buy fancier Seikos than this for $850. This isn't the value/bargain the Sumo has always been. And I like the look of the original models. This one doesn't even "look" like a Sumo.
I like the new sumo because it looks like the green marine master! The down side of the new sumo is hard to find good replacement bracelet to fit the watch!
I love this watch! Seiko Hulk, I want one ☝️
Just got the black one yesterday, absolutely loving it. Mod it with ceramic and it will be complete!
yeah the bezel disappointed me. I tried one on today.
Sold my Tudor Pelagos for this watch Tudor was nice but just to thick
Plus very happy with this Seiko sumo have the black one
Maybe they fix hour marking misalignments in fifth generation.
Hey...your lume test is better this time ! 👍👍
I bought my 2nd gen Sumo for just over $400, at that price it is an excellent watch and I wear it frequently. At $800 I don't think it's worth buying unless you absolutely need one because you love the design. Get the 2nd gen Sumo while you still can.
Mate - a really excellent, thorough review. Thank you.
Much appreciated!
there is no lumi marker on 3 oclock position. Mine has it. is it because of it is not 70 hour reserved one ? is it 01b0 ? it writes on 6 position
I like the second generation one. I am not sure I will completely loose the 200mts water resistance if I change it to a sapphire crystal probably I will and I am not sure I want to open the watch. The second generation looks bigger because of the font size
Same old Sumo,but with sapphire and ...hm new movement and same crappy clasp on ridiculous high price.But it looks good again
Love Seiko Prospex watches, this one is overpriced. New movement and sapphire crystal is definitely a upgrade but bracelet is still stamped metal. More like a $525 watch. Good review!
70 HOUR POWER RESSERVE BABY!!!!!
Stunning watch!
Thanks for the review. I like every change they made except the unsigned crown. The stamped clasp is a deal breaker at that price though.
Which one should I grab ? The SPB071 Padi or SPB103 Green Sumo. Both beauty divers but just need a nudge.
Thanks for the vid!
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Great video. 2nd gen looks more macho. 3rd gen more towards dressing watch. The aluminium bezel is the remaining major weakness.
2nd Gen is my favorite too.
Nice review.
I have a 2nd Gen Sumo. I personally like this 3rd Gen better but It’s twice the price.
sapphire and 20 more hours of power reserve is not worth twice the price.
This Sumo is now around the same price as the 62MAS inspired line and the Baby Marine Master. For $800 plus I would go for them.
I interested to see if this new movement will replace the 6r15. It’s still a 21,6000 BPH movement and has the same rated accuracy of -15 to +25.
Is the bezel ceramic? What’s the difference between the SPB103j model? Lastly, would you prefer this over the sumo szsc004 green?
Wow... stunning! Great video!!!
I believe the bezel is ceramic also.
Aluminium
It's stainless steel.
@@fungus70 It's aluminium.
Nice !!! Wish I have one of these
Is the lume blue ir green? Nice review btw
Thank you sir, it's kind of a teal color.
Beautiful watch almost as good looking as the green Oris Aquis. If i had known this watch was coming i wouldnt habe purchase thd green aquis almost 3 times the price. Also the power reserve kills the aquis. 800$ its a bargain for me. 70 HOURS wow.
Double the price of the sbdc031/33 for a sapphire and extra 20 hrs pr is not justifiable I'm sorry. Also stamped clasp on a $850 watch is not excusable. Certina DS sells for $599 with no shortcomings, and there are much better Swiss alternatives in the $600-1,000 range.
is it a different green than the last green sumo, does it have a ceramic bezel?
I'll keep my Blumo. I bought it about 6 months ago. My bezel is perfect. The new one is over-priced.
I love the look of the 3rd gen Sumo, but I find it amazing just how many reviewers think that by adding a sapphire crystal (tons of much cheaper watches come with sapphire) and the additional power reserve justifies the high (IMHO) price. I get it is a new movement, and 70 hour power reserve is very impressive, but the older Sumo has a 50 hour power reserve, and the 6R35 is not more accurate or tougher that the 6R15. Exact same movement with the exception of the power reserve.
They've doubled the price, which is insane and foolish imo. The Sumo became popular because for $420 you couldn't find a better finished watch (other than the cheap clasp). Now double the price with some minor "upgrades" and the same cheap clasp? No thank you Seiko.
I just bought one in mint condition used for just over $300 US. I think the 2nd hand price shows that Seiko's price hikes haven't gone down well at all.
fantastic watch
Should i get a Seiko Automatic or a Luminox Automatic?? which one is best?? thanks
Will this be available in blue? Only seeing reviews on the green watch.
Just ordered one brand new in chrono24 for 670 euros. I also ordered a decent steel strap from strapcode( a bit pricy tho) now just missing get a ceramic bezel and he's good to go :) great review!
Hope you enjoy it!
The SBDC001 is for me the real Sumo...
I bought the green seiko at a Seiko boutique for $850. It lists the 6R35 movement, newer indices, no S on crown ( all indicators of a Gen 3)
but NOWHERE does it say Sapphire crystal on the caseback or on the dial. It this an oversight in marking, or should I be concerned?
Great review Mav Dad! The new model also has a longer minute and second hand!
Thanks for Watching One More Time!
Hold up the bracelet is 18mm on a 45mm watch?
In less someone said this maybe it’s just me but the blue one looks bigger.
Noticed that too... 🤔 maybe they bezel is thicker on the 3rd gen, making the dial smaller?
It looks smaller and looks a little dressier compared to the blue one.
.....Your saying there is no difference in the case...is not one larger than the other???
Love it but wish had upgraded the stamped clasp!
You should tell us your wrist size when you try the watch on.
Hey Mav, awesome review. I noticed that you mentioned that the bracelet is 18mm? is that at the clasp? but Gnomon watches have it listed at 20mm? Just wanted to know for sure... i have loads of 20mm straps which would look good on the new sumo.
Yes that's at the clasp, 20mm @ the lugs.
I like the previous iteration hulk sumo better , tbh. with the big indices , hands , and font .
What's the size of the bracelet ? Does it taper ?
Is 20mm lug width and tapers to 18mm
$850 and not even a ceramic bezel, signed crown and that bracelet come on Seiko.
I agree!
$850 is MSRP, right? Why is street price the same?
Seiko is getting into the overpriced watch business like Rolex.
@@CorkKNIFE depends what model, when did you see a green sumo sell for less than the msrp? let me know i wanna buy from them
I love the watch it's stunning but it's true could have been better. With those additions would be perfect. However who pays full wack it's easy to find it discounted
They should make a mini Sumo. Dream watch if it was 41 mm.
70 power reserve wow!!!!!!!
Really dig the color. I prefer the new bezel font and hands as well. Sadly, 52.6mm lug to lug is just too big for me.
Is this new 3rd gen thinner than the 2nd gen Sumo? My Blumo is 13.5 mm thick and the new Sumo is 12.9 . Also the Blumo next to the new Sumo looks bigger than the newer Sumo. Is just me or I’m I seeing it incorrectly?
Good review, but I prefer the first Gen, without the X.
Is it just me or does the 3rd gen green one have a smaller face ?
The new one certainly looks smaller.
me old sbdc001 without the X on the bezel looks best
Why does the 2nd gen version look considerably bigger?
Maybe because of the bezel font. On the 3rd gen, numbers are small. I think it looks unbalanced with a lot of blank on the bezel.
18mm?
Tapers down to 18mm
Anyone digging green seiko "diver-inspired" watch but are too poor/cheap to pay for a Sumo, there's the Seiko 5 SRPB93
You rock man. Can't wait to see this review from my desktop. Thumbs up
If they cut the price in half itd make sense.
Why should they? But a green (!!!!!) dial on a watch - amazing, sensational. Oh, its rare? Sure, green solor is much much more expensive as Pblack or bluse. Price difference sapphire to hardlex for the largest watch manufacturer in the worrld -maybe 20 dollars. Anyway, lets double the Price - sheep will buy.
Second generation looks bigger
No way!
Mav Dad, great review. The watch is over priced IMHO. The sapphire chrystal, upgraded movement is welcomed. For the price is should come with a upgraded bracelet. The complete package would warrant the price increase.
I definitely agree. They really should have upgraded the bracelet as well.
I don't know why they don't update the SKX. I may be in the wrong crowd here, but the Sumo looks so bad to me. They will sell out if they update the SKX and keep the Turtle coming out with new colors, and not just the Save the Ocean variants...
If they update the sxk series, the price would be at least 300 bucks a piece maybe close to 400. Look how it went with the new sumo and the new arita presage.
What is up seiko doesn't have an integrated service network. Something is wrong with seiko....
This is SBP103J1 bro.....
Not in Japan it’s not. They use different serial numbers there.
@@fraybentos9854 interesting. I didn't know that, I was confused on the serial number aswell. Thx for the notice
It's both bro: SBDC081(world) SPB103J1(Japan only)
@@Green_Sumo_70 It has to model names depending on where you are in the world.
On my radar. Never owned a seiko before. I so it in the shop few days ago and 💔
It is a great watch with great specs but I prefer the looks of the 2nd generation.
All those upgrades should have come without the price increase. Seiko is trying to position themselves on a more luxury spot on the market.
Not sure if this will work out for them. I am certainly not interested in a Sumo at that price point.
What’s your wrist size? I’ve a 7” wrist, and I don’t know if it will be too large for me
Lou, I've got a 7" wrist and it fits perfectly.
21600 or 28800?
Federico It's 21,600 bph. I also love how Blake Taylor still doesn't realize that he's blocked on my channel lmao. He leaves comments but doesn't realize that if he logs out and checks to see if those comments are there he'll see they're actually not. What a complete dumbass lmao.
Seriously? Stamped clasp on a $850 watch? Honestly I used to like Seiko, but their recent pricing shenanigans is ridiculous. I know the company is trying to move upmarket, but this is not the way to do so.
Yeah the stamped metal clasp irks me to no end as well.
Yeah, I have the Samurai for $400 and it has the same bracelet and it's ok for that price range. The only problem with it is the diver extension sticking out and digging into the side of my wrist, it should be flush against the inside of the bracelet or a racheting extension or none at all. They should really up their game with the quality for the higher priced models.
Sapphire crystal is not what you want on a watch you use for scuba diving. Sapphire is more scratch resistant yes, but is not so shatter resistant as Hardlex, and it is a watch with a crystal more resistant against shattering and cracks you want for scuba diving. That said, most of these watches will never be used for diving, so the practical properties is not so important as its looks for most buyers.
Cheers.
I agree to a point but many other brands use sapphire at lower price point. It's just preferred over mineral or Hardlex.
When they do the Sumo Pepsi 3rd gen.. Im in..
For me the dial looks like Sumo on a diet, everything looks thinner/smaller, I like 2nd gen much more.
$850 and pressed clasp, unsigned crown, pin and collar bracelet. NO.
I wonder what's the accuracy of these new movements after 24h of resting. In 6R15 long power reserve is only theory. The reality is that after 24h without winding the accuracy is junk.
Buy this watch, if you love to waste money. $850 retail and a pressed clasp? Is Seiko losing their mind. Seiko is my favorite brand. But this is ridiculous. I wouldn’t buy this watch if I had 75% off. I can get a SKX007 or 009 for $200 or so. Want a good buy on a dive watch? Check out the orient mako XL. $129 on eBay. There probably isn’t 20% difference in quality from this watch. I could buy the whole XL line for the price of this watch. Seiko is famous for mediocre bracelets, but come on. I wouldn’t even buy the second generation, it wasn’t worth the money either. I’ve got a Seiko 5 55fathoms, Gold and black, way better looking and $140. Does this thing even have solid end links? I doubt it. Good job on the video but this watch is horrible. Good movement and sapphire but I can get all of that for a whole lot less.
Way to let out some steam dude
Ed Hammond I agree with you mate. For a few hundred more, I’ll buy a Longines Hydroconquest with ceramic bezel.
Sapphire is not that great, yes it is scratch resistant but if you drop that thing it will shatter into tiny pieces.
Top 👏👏
Now I regret selling my Blumo.
Mine's for sale if you're interested.
Lol it seems small on your lumberjack's wrist (no offense in my words) !
$1000????? Come on now?
It it just me or does 3rd gen looks like a Chinese knockoff of the 2nd gen.
I was thinking the same thing...lol.
No way Chinese knockoffs are that good the watch is stunning
@@maxp5422
You would be surprised....
Check out Steeldive.
$850 and it still has a crappy bracelet, what is wrong with Seiko ?!
For me, the older version is the better one. No signed crown? I mean, in this price-range? To sign the crown, costs 20 Cent for Seiko? The cheap looking and feeling standard Seiko clasp? Sapphire glass is great - but i have sapphire on my orient Triton - and the Price was about 400 Euros. 900 Euros for this Seiko? Thank, you, but in this pricerange I can have a Longines Hydro Conquest for example. Seiko is moving more an more away from that what it was - good watches for fair prices. OK, good for my wallet, helps me stop buying watches. I'm not willing to follow Seiko's pricing policy.
Hulk are the others with the crown, much brighter and ugly green. This is Deep Forrest Green like the MM300 ...
I mean its a nice piece n all but its no Ladymaster 3000...…….. Christ, wrong channel again.
I try to use your coupon code for a SKX009J1 and the site mentioned I need to “spend more” to use your coupon code. Lol
Were you trying to buy something only worth $20.00 you cheap bastard? lol
Nice watch but it's too much money for what your paying. They could at least give a nicer clasp but Seiko wants you to pay over thousand for those kind of "luxuries".
Nice watch ! But it's way overpriced!
Not sure why you paid 850 mine on Ebay was 495 free shipping
No it wasn't lol. These are going for between $800-1000 on eBay. No need to make up a story :)
@@maverickwatchreviews szscoo4 prospex sumo green dial is the watch I bought on eBay there on there right now 6r movement for under 500 from Japan . It would be so easy to just look for yourself gezz. Ether we have to different watches are you got screwed
That's the 2nd Generation. It would have been so easy for you to do some basic research before making an idiotic comment on my channel.
@@maverickwatchreviews yep cause your watch is almost 400 better than mine ...ok😏😏👍 . Hey Your money !
Yet another idiotic comment from you. This seems to be a pattern. I didn't buy the watch is was loaned to me for review. I have an idea, why don't you go be a moron on someone else's channel? You're simply too stupid to keep commenting on mine. Take care and thanks for watching!!!
Sorry but this watch is a rip off. The only upgrades are the sapphire crystal and longer power reserve. The hands and dial markers have all been reduced (scaled down; thinner and smaller). I’ll admit it looks better with the new bezel font and dial and hands (less cartoonish look). That green looks much better than photos. This is double the cost of the old Sumo though. For about the same price you can get other Seiko Prospex Divers with sapphire crystal, 6R15, diashield coating and much better bracelets with milled clasps. Seiko totally overpriced this watch. I don’t really see 70 hr vs a 50 hr power reserve as being an issue for most people, especially if it your only watch and it’s worn everyday. I’d save my money and go 6R15 all day long and buy a the previous model.
I tried one on today. Not worth the price tag. I've got a high end replica of an Omega 007 SeaMaster (review on channel) and the quality on the finish is much nicer. How can a big Japanese company not create a luxury finish when the replica makers can?
Serious? Replica. You just blew your whole argument with that. Who will take that or you seriously? BTW I just looked at one and the quality is there for the price of $850. To me looks much nicer than that price point.
Gary Hamrick with you on that bro 👊🏻
You wear a knock off. But embarrassing.
Seiko just looks and feels cheap. I've had 2 that the damn face inside broke and began to spin inside the watch. Same price to repair as it is to buy. The bezels also end up having so much play in them one ended up being bi directional. Garbage