HOW I Created the Cinematic with UNREAL ENGINE 5

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    Genji: paulanimate.gumroad.com/l/uXKUv
    Clouds: jangafx.com/software/embergen...
    VDB plugin: github.com/eidosmontreal/unre...
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:24 Planning and References
    1:05 Assets Preparation
    02:08 Previz
    02:34 Animation
    05:51 Export Animations to Unreal
    07:07 Materials Setup
    08:36 Lightning
    11:04 Rendering
    11:38 Montage
    12:00 Final Result
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  • @prikollab
    @prikollab 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    I'm thrilled! Great job. Very informative video and excellent editing. Special thanks for the detailed explanation of some points. Your video helped me solve my problems in ue5. Thanks!

  • @postprocessed
    @postprocessed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    Not the lighting, not editing, not sound design what impresses me. But camera and animation. This cinematography mix of "cartoon/ anime style" camera and animation - this is what makes the biggest impression. Dude, you are a GOAT

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Thanks, dude! 😍

    • @venomtang
      @venomtang 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Smells like d riding for a pin and clout

  • @nivelsXD
    @nivelsXD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The fact that he spent 2 weeks only to get a 15 second video is why animators need to get paid more. This was increadable and deserves all the praise

    • @_Sp4rky
      @_Sp4rky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Oh it was way more than just 2 weeks, he spent more than 10 weeks

  • @Danger_N00dle
    @Danger_N00dle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    I admire the patience you and other professional animators have.
    I struggle to work on a project for more than a single day.

    • @HenriqueLoesch
      @HenriqueLoesch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You build stamina and patience overtime, I was the same. Test your patience on some projects from time to time and you'll see you get better at it.
      Also keeping your phone time as minimal as you can helps a LOT to increase your attention span, being bored is actually a good thing.

    • @Danger_N00dle
      @Danger_N00dle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@HenriqueLoesch
      Yeah, instead of wasting time on my phone, I tend to watch random videos on my PC instead lol.
      But yeah, the idea remains the same.
      It's definitely something I need to work on more often and rework my workflow to avoid wasting time.
      This would make the process more enjoyable and help me on the long run.

    • @HenriqueLoesch
      @HenriqueLoesch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Danger_N00dle hey if it helps I was able to do it, so can you.
      And man when you're finally able to endure being bored and enjoy doing nothing feels SO GOOD. It's not just for your work, it's good in general

    • @Rangerthelonewolf
      @Rangerthelonewolf 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So saying what he shared. It took him 10 weeks to make a 20second clip. How does that make you feel in regards to your patience 😂

  • @latortuesauvage2970
    @latortuesauvage2970 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    bro said "easy " and "simple" after spend 10 weeks for the beggining. great work

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂😄 Thanks bro

  • @reapernekrs4871
    @reapernekrs4871 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Just letting you know as a student you are a hidden gem in the 3D animation community I wish one day to be as good as you

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ohh... Thank you so much, my friend! Much appreciate it!

    • @Ben_CY123
      @Ben_CY123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He is a true master, I hope I can make something like this one day🎉

  • @brad7141
    @brad7141 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is one of the more informative videos I have run in to youtube. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

  • @manobharathi7470
    @manobharathi7470 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It is one of the best unreal engine cinematics I ever saw for an individual project.
    its sick 🔥🔥

  • @kretaum
    @kretaum 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    The definition off one man army

    • @moregamingplayz9002
      @moregamingplayz9002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      he is not even definition of one man army if he didn't make the character model by himself did uv unwraped it or retopo i rigged it by himself he didn't make the textures by himself etc

    • @Ablumz
      @Ablumz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Are you suggesting he is not capable of that? This guy clearly has the skills to do every step as a 3d generalist, just because he used a rigged character model to save time does not mean he cannot do everything by himself. One can just as well say that because he didn't create unreal engine he is not a one man army, because he didn't program the tool used to make the 3d content, don't be so negative, you're trying to drag other people down to your level and nobody needs that energy

    • @moregamingplayz9002
      @moregamingplayz9002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ablumz you and others with this exact same comment or your are definition of a one man army don't know what a true 3d artist is he is not even close to the definition so better be quiet talk back if he knows how to Sculpt,Model,UVUnwrapping,Retopoing,Rigging,TexturePainting,ETC... Then You Can Talk Back now just shush little bro

    • @Ablumz
      @Ablumz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moregamingplayz9002 I'd like to see your reel big man, you must me a master to talk down on everyone the way you do. Until I see some masterfully crafted content from you, everything you say is meaningless and you are a troll. I can already tell based on how you talk that your content is garbage because nobody who talks the way you do would ever get anywhere in this industry. Sounds like you've been called "little bro" too many times and now you are projecting since being a keyboard warrior seems more in your area of expertise and you aren't happy about it.

    • @moregamingplayz9002
      @moregamingplayz9002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​​​​​@@Ablumz1. how tf am i a keyboard warrior im literally telling whats wrong with that dudes comment 2. im an artist and im allowed to say and judge what dude did wrong or said in the video 3. you dont even know the meaning behind word Projecting cause im not even projecting thats crazy lol 6.i am better than this guy i make my own character models,textures,materials etc... 7. i dont post that much about my creations cause im still practicing making human body etc. i guess you all here are way too young or you guys dont know industry workflow cause your IQ is 0.

  • @SirWade
    @SirWade 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a great video!! And brilliant final cinematic- Well done!! :D

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm honored, man! Thank you 😍

  • @The3Dsmash
    @The3Dsmash 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a Maya animator who is learning Unreal in order to do something very similar...this was SO FUN to watch. Thanks very much for taking the time to create such a detailed, entertaining and inspiring video. Well done!

  • @TanguyGuinchardTeamSTAMA
    @TanguyGuinchardTeamSTAMA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    this is a goldmine of informations! better than 90% of online courses and condensed in a 10min video! thank you!

  • @llR0ckyll
    @llR0ckyll 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really amazing video. I've looked all over youtube for the process of exporting, importing and modifying animation to unreal engine for cinematics and noone ever speaks this slow or displays the step by step process. Thank you, please make more!

  • @CloudStrife4
    @CloudStrife4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    One of the best breakdown I've seen.
    The animation is dope too! Well done bro

  • @jackstack2136
    @jackstack2136 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It's worth mentioning the perspective flip at 12:10 (where black/red Genji is now suddenly kicking from the left, after previously attacking from the right) is like a cardinal sin among action sequences, animated or otherwise. It's important to maintain consistency with regards to the actors' space retention, aka who is who and who is where... especially in dynamic, fast & flashy sequences like this one. Even more so here since, in this case, both of your actors are palette swaps of the same model. It is obvious from the rest of the video that you understand the nuances of perspective so I was confused by that choice, but otherwise, this was phenomenal and I can't wait to see how you improve going forward!

  • @CyranoSaturnis
    @CyranoSaturnis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man, your animation ended up being sooooo good. You’re really skilled, and I love how you gave out great advice throughout the video. I truly hope you continue to grow as a creator and get the attention you deserve.

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you very very much, my friend!

  • @BigBrainsBlender993
    @BigBrainsBlender993 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The camera work in this is absolutely superb. Great job!

  • @raku_kun7
    @raku_kun7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    those key steps you mentioned are gold... thanks for making this video you'll become a good animator for sure

    • @larbierichmond53
      @larbierichmond53 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He already is a good animator🔥🔥🔥

  • @Zulushi
    @Zulushi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Insane. Excited to see your future content dude, it's gonna be great.

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, man! Appreciate it

  • @elsonicvenezolano
    @elsonicvenezolano 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, this video just make me see how cool genji is, i tihnk they should make more fight animations with him

  • @remor698
    @remor698 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's one hell of a banger to start your youtube journey off on. And by that I mean both the original animation and this breakdown of it. Also nice to get some actual reference of time scales involved in the making of quality art like this, since those usually tend to be a bit of an obscure element of the final product, despite being important for anyone aspiring to pull of similar feats to be aware of.
    I really didn't expect for planning and previz to take up a combined, whole month here for example, so I now have at least a rough benchmark of project stamina to eventually work towards.

  • @mohamedalmala
    @mohamedalmala 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When we talk about creativity, we describe you, my dear friend, amazing work💛

  • @newt_till
    @newt_till 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work Sako, very informative and interesting, I listened with pleasure and get something new for myself, keep it up, you’re doing great!

  • @trendingvibes555
    @trendingvibes555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Bro those animation had me Goosebumps ❤️‍🔥 pls make tutorials of how to animate fight scene and blend 2 character fight correctly, trust me we all need it 🙏

    • @TronikXR
      @TronikXR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes! We do!

    • @soultopsy
      @soultopsy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It takes a LOT of months of straight animation study, learning all the fundamentals and getting good at the craft to even come close to his level, you can look at it as learning how to do draw, It's not something you learn overnight, or in 1 week, 1 month, you can't learn this with a tutorial, you need specific courses to learn how to use maya, learn the animation principles, body mechanics, etc. it took me 1.5 years of animating 5-8 hours a day to get my first job. you really have to be committed to learn it.

  • @matt-lacey
    @matt-lacey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So many useful tiips, I gotta save this video! and that final render looks so amazing.

  • @developingtank
    @developingtank 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really impressed by how this video gives realistic expectations for the time required to create something like this even when you have a good amount of experience doing it. Creating in 3D is fun, but is also a ton of work. Other videos give the impression that it's an incredibly easy process that anyone should be able to quickly knock out.

  • @uzairahmad3870
    @uzairahmad3870 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great work bro thrilled to see the work. ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

  • @arpanmahor
    @arpanmahor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    ALRIGHT GUYS, it took him around 3 months or so to finish this u get it? this entire process is time consuming as hell, but end results are always worth it.

  • @Espinosa_render
    @Espinosa_render 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing work. I love how you create the storytelling for this video

  • @Leashx
    @Leashx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've just recently gotten into animation as I've wanted to for the longest time. I'll for sure end up using the tips you gave for the project setup and planning! Amazing work my dude I look forward to seeing more!

  • @eltehartland
    @eltehartland 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really nice video, showing off how much work goes into making a cinematic while staying accessible and understandable. Nice job!

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Appreciate it man🙂

  • @Kuramarts
    @Kuramarts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so most insane hidden gem of a video I've come across in A LONG TIME.. It inspires me so much, I'm in complete awe

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, my friend! I'm glad☺

  • @icyBulls
    @icyBulls 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely incredible. You are so talented!

  • @matiasmarek7377
    @matiasmarek7377 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FANTASTIC. Dang man, really good job.

  • @FortisAnimations
    @FortisAnimations 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genuinely looks amazing, fantastic Work dude!!!

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it!

  • @rezajeffrey7970
    @rezajeffrey7970 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This, is, Immmmpossible.... omfg man, you're incredible 🔥

  • @RobHawksbyll
    @RobHawksbyll 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dude this is so amazing, your skills are next level.

  • @Ray_XRayHuang
    @Ray_XRayHuang หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're my god! Treasure turtorial that explain the fluent workflow and awesome works !

  • @zevul4021
    @zevul4021 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My jaw was dropped during the whole video! Amazing job dude

  • @user-ps6ds5ov2l
    @user-ps6ds5ov2l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lets Go!Good luck Sako!

  • @JoshToonen
    @JoshToonen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work man! Huge Overwatch fan and awesome to see everything come together

  • @neovongolaprimo_
    @neovongolaprimo_ 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have no idea about animation and all that stuff, but that was somehow very entertaining to watch. :D

  • @JesterLegend4life
    @JesterLegend4life 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That end result is 🔥

  • @dzmigo2649
    @dzmigo2649 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video , and the final result was Very high quality , well done .

  • @joshmcleod1061
    @joshmcleod1061 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bro you should be getting MILLIONS of views/subscribers for your channel! This is AAA studio level animation skill here! Please keep it up! I am getting into animation myself and I find this inspiring!!

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Big thanks man😍

  • @jddesmore
    @jddesmore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This channel needs to grow. I need more❤

  • @SebastianPuertaCO
    @SebastianPuertaCO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All my respect to you, this is absolutely inspiring, entertaining and full of knowledge. Thank you for this content.

  • @roxtube123
    @roxtube123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dude.. thank you so much for making a " behind the scenes " i learned SO much from just watching this video... +subscribed
    great work, presentation and breakdown

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it man ❤

  • @ferhatkaratayy
    @ferhatkaratayy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it was very good experience to watch this. great job yo

  • @erban.3d
    @erban.3d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great content to show how important the workflow is. It may seem simple but planning and executing accordingly could be the hardest part of the project when you think all the elements such as materials, lights etc. Thanks a lot for invaluable tips!

  • @johndow1261
    @johndow1261 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That came out amazing, I've just started my journey with 3D modeling and am currently learning Substance Painter so I have WAYS to go before this. But watching the workflow and seeing how amazing that end result was has me excited. Plus, it also puts more realistic expectations of how long it takes. So thank you very much, amazing work

  • @GiflyVR
    @GiflyVR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honest workflow! Great job I loved it

  • @JaySamurai79
    @JaySamurai79 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never seen this channel before, but i love stuff like this. Definitely going to sub n like 👍

  • @user-cz9bm3jz4s
    @user-cz9bm3jz4s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You're officially my favourite youtuber.
    Your videos and animations are high quality, keep it up ❤

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much appreciated 😍

  • @pxrposewithnopurpose5801
    @pxrposewithnopurpose5801 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    THATS CLEAN ASF

  • @aryanahuja2477
    @aryanahuja2477 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    THIS IS SOME INSANE WORK!!!!!!!!!

  • @user-el2ey7yf1t
    @user-el2ey7yf1t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what a gem. subscribed right away. thank you sir

  • @thepassenger5087
    @thepassenger5087 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So cool!! Really helpful and well done video

  • @Top1089
    @Top1089 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Better than expected sir

  • @AP05_
    @AP05_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YOOOOO THATS SOOO COOL thank you for teaching how to do this step by step its amazing!!!!

  • @Atomic-toons00
    @Atomic-toons00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you man stright to the point

  • @-helpu2799
    @-helpu2799 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow I’m in love with this work

  • @BMTVMeditationandSleep
    @BMTVMeditationandSleep 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks amazing

  • @user-fn3em8vr2o
    @user-fn3em8vr2o 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please make more like that 😮🎉, so informative, can you make a tutorial for each part 😮❤

  • @AnimatorHeadSpace
    @AnimatorHeadSpace 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it man! Wonderful stuff.

  • @elvisual7
    @elvisual7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is incredible bro, there is a lot of effort in this work and I am sure it will achieve great success in the future. keep it up man

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it, man! THANK YOU

  • @szythe316
    @szythe316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks, I am getting into content creation and have been wanting to make animations and designs even if it's the basics or takes a while to learn so definitely looking forward to more Videos.

  • @plotcoalition
    @plotcoalition 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I'll definitely be taking some of these tips into my next project! 😁

  • @GAMINGWITHSHANMUKH
    @GAMINGWITHSHANMUKH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 it's absolute FLAMES !!! HATS OFF BRO... WHAT A GREAT WORK 🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @user-rustinanimation
    @user-rustinanimation หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing my friend. I know it can be quite difficult for animators to understand how Maya and Unreal work together.
    Great stuff!

  • @damien.digital
    @damien.digital 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That project is fantastic!

  • @mb.3d671
    @mb.3d671 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im in game dev and enjoyed this very much. Hope to see more.

  • @lysanderschneidenbach3814
    @lysanderschneidenbach3814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thats freaking sick!!

  • @xxlil5663
    @xxlil5663 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that was really helpful and really fascinating like this is so good😭😭😭

  • @MEMES_0_0
    @MEMES_0_0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why does this looks so majestic. Great work dude

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😍🙏

  • @mauieditz27
    @mauieditz27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is sick bro!🔥 nice job 👍

  • @rashidmadni6562
    @rashidmadni6562 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a gem, please keep uploading!

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! I will

  • @antonieralcoleman3935
    @antonieralcoleman3935 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't wait to see more!

  • @ParkerThwips
    @ParkerThwips 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid! Would love to see more vids like this.

  • @AstralManu
    @AstralManu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing this was super epic!

  • @emirhandemir2076
    @emirhandemir2076 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    İncredibly nice breakdown… well done dude! Thanks for all the info and i wish you the best!

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you man! Appreciate it

  • @Unrealchristian
    @Unrealchristian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AWESOME!!! Hello from another unreal user. You sire earned a new sub!!!

  • @adrianomantoanInvestor
    @adrianomantoanInvestor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic work!

  • @abdullahnaim10
    @abdullahnaim10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing animation!!!

  • @abhinavchawla162
    @abhinavchawla162 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video..As an animator I’ve been always confused about the workflow and how things fall in place. Keep up the good work 😊

  • @ukmonk
    @ukmonk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work!! Looks awesome!!

  • @eveconteee
    @eveconteee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sako, you know soooo much…🤯 Its so interesting. I didn't think it was such a difficult job. Keep up the good work, I'm waiting for the next video! 😍🔥🔥🔥
    i need healing

  • @Hackinside
    @Hackinside 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent video editing skills. Great job. Subscribed. 👏🏼

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome ❤

  • @aidarzhapar6720
    @aidarzhapar6720 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work, love it!

  • @nemnozhko_vpered
    @nemnozhko_vpered 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Incredible! Great job!

  • @user-ny2ct3xy9z
    @user-ny2ct3xy9z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THAT CAMERA TRICK IS JUST TOP NOTCH.

  • @kademo1594
    @kademo1594 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Truly impressive

  • @YCFCG
    @YCFCG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    your ue5 artworks looks so cool🤩

  • @raven9803
    @raven9803 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    incredible informative, subscribed

  • @harshalucky5696
    @harshalucky5696 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yo that was too good

  • @yaladdin86
    @yaladdin86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic breakdown man. Really nice work, and great animations too! Subbed!

    • @sakocgi
      @sakocgi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much appreciated, man !

  • @NEOAPPS_MUSIC
    @NEOAPPS_MUSIC 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's extremely good! good job!
    im a new subscriber 🎉

  • @olek_h
    @olek_h 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job!

  • @leazarev
    @leazarev 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing job!

  • @Axiassart
    @Axiassart 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exactly what I needed lol I was looking for a tutorial like that very specifically but couldn’t find it