Volkswagen Golf R32 MK4 vs Volkswagen Golf R32 MK5 | Brothers in Arms
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video, I review a Volkswagen Golf R32 MK4 against my Volkswagen Golf R32 MK5 and we'll be looking at the differences between these two generations. Both share the same engine but apart from that and the paintjob, are there any real differences?
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Great video... After watching this, I think that big 3.2 with that lovely sound suits the MK4 better! Alex has kept that old car in really good condition 💪🏼
It's a dinosaur engine so it kinda suits the older styling for sure. That said, the MK5 isn't a bad chassis for that glorious engine
The guy of the channel is has real has youll get knows his cars and excellent honest reviews.. keep up the good work.. bless
Glad you like them!
Just brought a mk5 yesterday on this review can’t wait for next weekend
Historical Notes of interest on the Mk4 R32:
It was greenlighted during the reign of Ferdinand Piech at VW, grandson of Ferdinand Porsche, and the engineer responsible for developement of the mid-engined racecars of Porsche in the '60's including the 917, the Audi Quattro and the iconoclast VW's, Phaeton and Touareg.
The M4 R32 was built in Bratislava Slovakia along side the Touareg after the Berlin Wall came down and VW wanted to take advantage of newly freed talent that had previously been walled off behind the Iron Curtain. They were highly motivated to build a quality vehicle.
It was a parts bin special with the 3.2 from the base Phaeton and that 5000lb+ vehicle's big brakes.
It had the steering rack, the Haldex system and the independent rear suspension system from the Audi TT (both built on the same platform).
And that's what makes it special, and a blast to drive.
Thanks for the history lesson!
I had a Mk4 in 2016, one of the best cars I've ever had. It put a smile on my face every time I got in it! sold it for a profit 2 years later! If I ever bought a Mk5, I'd always be sad that it's not a Mk4
It's something about sitting in an older care pared with that VR6 that feels more better. It's like deciding whether you like piano or keyboard!
Ive owned both. MK4 is a very unique car. Though i prefer daily driving my current MK5. Its much more modern and friendlier for daily use. Its very noticeable when comparing them.
If we're talking dream car garage, MK4 all day long!
I think I agree with your summary completely!
But, why? They handle like soup. I just don't get it.
@@slartibartfast4511 😂 if you don't know , you don't know
Back in 92-93 they put the 2.7 vr6 in the Mk3 golf would be great to see one of these on your channel.
Thank you
Ah yes, the 2.8L VR6 from the MK3 and later the MK4 also
@@CarNitty The mk4 had two versions of the 2.8
The US market only 2.8 12v (basically same as mk3) and the 2.8 24v with 204hp wich is a lot more similar to the 3.2
The mk3 also came with a 2.9 in the synchro variant
Making all the right sounds 🎶
MK4 is still my preferred choice here the boxy analogue experience is what its about
The flared arches on the 4 is also another thing that does it for me.
Having said that the DSG is still better lol but if given the choice manual is the way for me 😎
Agree with everything you've said down to a tee!
If both cars cost the same money, which would you buy? Let me know below in the comments!
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My R32 is also up for sale so get in touch if you're interested in buying mine!
The mk4 r32 by far the best looking golf there is in my ayes love them.
They are pretty good looking cars!
Not a truer word said my man🇩🇪
Brilliant video love the mk4 mk5 comparison
The R32 is just a unique car
I love my manual but the DSG is superb and back then everyone wanted auto because of the quality of the box. I went DSG on my 15 plate Gti and loved its seem less change.
In the mk5 r32 they did the old man spec
Quite rare.
Full cream leather with wood effect steering wheel, gear knob, radio surround & trim inserts :)
In my opinion the R32s are the best hot hatch made for the drama & sound and you can pop to the shops and pick the kids up.
These cars will go up in value and are very sort after for any petrol head
Great episode thank you
Glad you enjoyed the video! Yes that old man spec is quite hard to get hold of but it's probably very unloved at the same time!
Great comparison vid, and opinions.
I own a mk4 r32 in dbp. So I am biased I prefer the MK4 over the 5 but both cool
Not a fan of the pops n bangs though 😊
Glad you liked the video! Yes, the tune is subjective but a lot of people don't like it until they've actually driven it!
The mk4 does have a DSG gearbox but in Germany only I believe
Yes, someone commented this and this was new information to me
In Europe you had a dsg version of the MK4 it was the first car of the vag groep to have the dsg box
Yes, that's correct but not in the UK
Only germany had the DSG i believe
@@Black_Magic_Pearl no, 500 were made throughout Europe
@@Black_Magic_Pearl I'm from Belgium and I know someone who bought it new from the dealer
What a great comparison vid. I got mk5 cos its cheaper and needed auto, but mk4 would have been better for raw factor. I hate the dsg flappy switches, they are useless on any road that isnt straight. I just use the ' tiptronic' system.
Haha using the physical gearbox as if it's a sequential manual no doubt!
@@CarNitty Yes, and although strange at first, after a week or two it becomes second nature. But, the truth is, who needs it when the DSG in Sport mode does the job well enough 🤣
honestly great video here
Glad you enjoyed it!
The MK4 R32 was the worlds first DSG equipped car. I believe it was only to be had in the UK?
The UK only got manual MK4s
@@CarNitty I know some part of Europe the MK4 R32 was available with DSG. And the first to be equipped with it.
Got to say from outside the DSG gearbox really doesn't sound like it shifts any better than a regular torque converter auto, sounds a bit disappointing tbh.
The DSG has a slur-like noise as the revs drop and the next gear engages. Personally the DSG sounds better and the manual sounds like the cars taking a big gulp of air
Love both has the mk4 had his timing chain changed nitty
@@A43R3W I don't think he did and he's sold it on now
Taking the MK4 all day over the MK5. Never really liked how the mk5 looked. Especially the interior. But Unfortunately, getting a mk4 here in the states is near impossible unless you want to pay a pretty penny for it. MK5s are still reasonably priced though
I love both if you ask me. Just a shame there's such a huge price difference between both if you wanted the choice
I prefer the MK5 over the MK4 all day, owned them both but the MK5 is a much better car imo.
It's definitely more car for the money technically
Not interested in dsg. MK4 all day long. Got MK3 VR6 looking for an R32 MK4 in the future. Prices are crazy. Would get a mk 5 for half the price though. Nice vid
A manual R32 is always a great shout!
Great vid love my mk5 daily
Both great cars and yes, the MK5 is still a great daily despite it being a bit thirsty
MK4 R32 is 👑
Here in the USA we got the MK4 in Manual only and MK5 was DSG only. VW really made a major mistake with not at least making both options available as MK5 sales took a major hit and they would sit on dealership lots for months collecting dust because its was DSG only, we wanted manual. MK4 was sold out before they even completed production in terms of pre-sale.
MK4 R32 is the one EVERYBODY wants ultimately. I had a cop pull me over one day and literally told me "I'm not going to give you a ticket tonight, you drive an R32. I have a thing for Volkswagens"
It doesn't pack the biggest punch but of all the R32/Golf R cars the MK4 is truly the untamed beast, each generation gets more refined than the previous. Yes, smiles and giggles the entire drive these cars are just a hoot to drive.
BEWARE THEY ARE NOT CHEAP TO OWN BUT THEY ARE TOTALLY WORTH IT😉
For me oddly I love all the even # Generations ie... MK4, MK6, MK8
Thank you for sharing your experience of the R32 outlook in the US. It's very different to how it is in the UK.
I daily my Mark4 R32 my buddy has a Mark5 R32. I have more mods, cams etc...and he beats me every time except top speed (155mph) . It's his DSG more than the extra 10 hp in the motor that allows him to win imo.
Those lightning quick shifts make all the difference during a race!
Love the comparison!
It’s taken me this long to finally sit down and enjoy this great comparison!
I’ve always loved the Mk4 R32, it’s what got me into fast Golfs.
For me, to make it perfect. Would be a DSG version, which they only made for Europe. 😅
I would daily it, maybe even start a turbo or supercharge build to make it comparable to the modern day versions 😊
Thanks for the shoutout! And keep up the good work on the channel!
Thanks for sharing! Glad you enjoyed it. The manual for me is the winner. It suits the block so much more.
Ive owned my MK4 R32 SINCE 2015 absolutely love it.. its a 3DR DPB with alloys in gloss black. Looks special and lots of guys have praised it gets looks everywhere. Drive in is amazing feels superior with it 3.2. Compared to the MK5 is way more special inside and out.. my mate has a mk5 r32 and its amazing aswell but I doesn't feel raw maybe bcuz its alot more refined and smoother. And it doesnt look so special from the outside..
Long may your MK4 live on! 🙏🏽
@@CarNitty thanks
I just have never understood the love for the MK4... they looked dated even when they first appeared, lingered longer than in other version, and have almost no rigidity compared to the MK5... and, yes, I own a MK5. Happy motoring!
@slartibartfast4511 you made me laugh.. you talking about the MK4 R32. looks totally different from any other mk4 inside and out. How many mk4 r32 was made and how many mk5 r32.. also have you seen the front of the mk5 r32 it's a copy of a jetta with its ugly chrome grill. Inside the seats are same had a golf tdi..
Love the original! I had a mk4 GTI new and always wished I had the 32
Alex is a cool guy... :)
Haha yep
Bruv you have the steering wheel on the wrong side Mate..
It's actually on the *right* side...
Is it true that VW went from a hydraulic steering assist in MK4 to an electronic in MK5? Did you feel the difference?
I know that Mk4 R32 steering rack is faster than the rest of the MK4s, but I never drove MK5s to compare.
Yes that's true. The MK5 is much lighter and easier to live with but it does steal some of the road feeling
mk4 comes in manual and dsg not only manual
In the UK, it's a manual only car. No MK4 can be optioned with a DGS box
the MKIV DID come with a DSG.... it's what VW debuted the DSG in...
Not in the UK and this has discussed at length in other comments already 👍🏽
There is indeed a mk4 r32 dsg 😮
Not in the UK
Got rid of my MK5 R32 a couple of years ago and regret it every day 😢
Unless you really need the money, it's really not worth selling. There's nothing else quite like them
I own mk5 r32 dsg, looking for mk4 r32... awesome motors v6 r32 👌 unique
Great cars, the pair of them!
Can’t mention these 2 platforms without mentioning the 2.9/2.8 vr6 and the mk4 did come dsg just not in the uk.
Yep, no MK4 came with a DSG in the UK
I prefer the look of the mk4 but like the fact the mk5 will be newer, I'm looking to be buying a mk4 or 5 and the end of the year. How did ut get the pops on the mk5 as I love when cars do that
You can go to a tuner/remap specialist and they can add that in. Mine was just an overrun map with light crackles.
@@CarNitty does it damage the engine or anything as I know pop and bang maps can be bad for it
Not necessarily. Pops and bangs are also bad for the catalytic converter but mine wasn't removed as the overrun isn't aggressive. It comes down to driving style and how often you push the car as the crackles will put more wear on the car but you need to be mindful of this when abusing the car
the mk4 was the first with the DSG....... NOT mk5
@@churchtm6539 this has been covered many times in the comments. In the UK, it's strictly a manual car.
keep your work
Appreciate the kind words and support!
The short of it.....BUY AND DRIVE BOTH!
Absolutely! You can't go wrong with either!
What exhaust system does the mk4 have?
It has a Miltek setup
@CarNitty would you know if its a full system or just cat back?
@AaronNevard it would be a cat back system
Salam, is your R32 for sale.. and if so is it available
W. Salam, I sold it earlier this month! Reveal video on the replacement pending!
MK4 also has DSG
What exhaust do you have on the MK5 ?
The MK5 was the first generation Golf to feature a direct shift gearbox.
I'm running a stock exhaust with just a res delete on my R32.
@@CarNitty No, in my country the Golf MK4 R32 has the DSG
Did you remove the intermediate silencer?
I'm very surprised to hear you say that as the DSG only launched in 2005 as far as I'm aware.
Yes, the middle silencer
@@CarNitty In France: 200 copies in 2003 ;-)
Look at the photos on the Internet. The DSG inscriptions are under the R32 logo at the rear
You learn something new everyday!
I have a 06 Audi a3 3.2 DSG it the alway you can get a 4 door 3.2 hatch . Beautiful car.😢
Yes I've reviewed one of these on my channel already. Great budget R32 alternative
Mk4 love you
Mk4s are just stunning man mk5s not so much😂
Subjective opinion but the MK4s have aged so well in the R32 guise
MK4 6 speed two doors VR6!
Crazy how the number of doors and gearbox options is poverty spec in this day and age
Mizan bhaisab come back
New upload drops on Sunday at 6pm
Do not sleep on the porsche pdk!
Definitely one of the best auto gearboxes out there but there's nothing like a manual!
@@CarNittyI agree, that the visceral feel of a manual cannot be replaced and it definitely has its place amongst a certain type of drivers. The pdk is quicker and more precise than even the best driver will ever be on his/her best day and if you live in a place like NY, Chicago or here Southern Cali and consistently stuck in traffic an automatic becomes more ideal for a daily and the pdk then shines and the manual moves to a Sunday driver. Love the content brother keep doing what you are doing.
Agree completely with your synopsis and appreciate your kind message
Sadly they are slow😢
By modern standards, yes but nonetheless very enjoyable cars
They made to be boosted 700hp on an unopened motor crazy 😅