gen1 pokemon is probably a better game as a speedgame than as a casual game, in casual all the glitches don't make any sense and as a speedrun all the garbage UI doesn't matter
it's a lot more execution based than you might expect, even if there is a decent amount of luck involved, as well as the fact that things being luck dependent isn't always a bad thing, it gives speedruns variability and can make them more fun on average
I will add that the first manip is really easy to do. I did it on my first try. There is a more complicated one that is more optimal but there is a basic one that is easy to do.
totally! I was completely shocked at how easy the nido manip is, and I am currently learning moon manip, which don't get me wrong is very long and hard to memorise, but not at all technically difficult (pressing a on specific tiles on a specific path, same as nido manip)
also if you do decide to run gen 1 and 2 i highly recommend playing with a Super Famicom controller or Official SNES controller with a mayflash SNES to USB adapter.
I didn't mention it, but there is a load of already routed alt mains, including clefable, but also blastoise, charizard, farfetch'd, omaster, loads of choices (another great thing about running red)
If you want to be a crazy maniac about it, I believe there’s also potential for using Arbitrary Execution Code or just ACE to speedrun other games and do things like a credit warp in Super Mario Land 2 on Gameboy. th-cam.com/video/SL_Zuc0tlvo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hgOwzR6_QhjH9yVJ Sadly Zelda might be out of the question.
I've messed around with plenty of glitches in red/blue and crystal as well, and that's always loads of fun, so I might have to try an NSC run at some point too!
I hate the idea of speedrunning; almost as much as I hate Nuzlockes. It's fine if other people do it, but it's like the equivalent of having a great meal and trying to scarf it down as fast as possible like a competitive eating contest. Nuzlockes are even worse, because they're extremely stupid and rely on RNG and pure luck. I like watching videos on exploits and insights about the subject, but have no desire to ever do a speedrun of any game myself cause it defeats the purpose. In fact, I usually spend several hundred hours on a single save file; currently on 530+ hours on Ultra Moon trying to build an army of Lv. 50 competitive 'Mons.
fair enough - I myself have the habit of completing pokedexes, because that is also a really fun way to play the game, and speedrunning certainly isn't for everyone!
It's fine if you don't like it, but I would like to inform you that your reasons for disliking speedruns and Nuzlockes are misguided and don't match reality at all. Nuzlockes actually require a lot of strategy to remove as much RNG as possible. Speedruns require a deep knowledge of how the game works, and someone achieving a world record often spends thousands of hours playing the game. In both cases, at a high level, the person playing probably knows more and has enjoyed the game for longer than anyone playing the game regularly. Again, it's fine not to like it, but you should try to learn more about it; you might enjoy it more than you think.
I ran Yellow for a little while a few years ago, and the menu buffers, double-inputs etc are really fun, there are no other games quite like this!
exactly - I keep thinking about switching to other pokemon games for a bit, but gen one is just so addictive, so much fun!
gen1 pokemon is probably a better game as a speedgame than as a casual game, in casual all the glitches don't make any sense and as a speedrun all the garbage UI doesn't matter
It’s fun to use item underflow
I certainly have way more fun speedrunning it than playing it casually so I would be inclined to agree
was always curious about speedrunning red, might have to give it a try! great vid!
thanks! you definitely should and be sure to let me know how you go!
(though I see you already ran sapphire, and if that put you off altogether I would not blame you, that run is unbelievably brutal)
whats so fun about playing a luck simulator that blares annoying noise in your ear whenever you're doing good?
it's a lot more execution based than you might expect, even if there is a decent amount of luck involved, as well as the fact that things being luck dependent isn't always a bad thing, it gives speedruns variability and can make them more fun on average
eh, couple manips to memorize then slot machine simulator. to be fair im playing red now, but challenge runs for fun not speed❤
ah more slot machine simulator
maybe ill try it out, cool vid!
thanks! I hope you do :)
Speedrunning is like a never ending shiny softreset 😄
except that you get to play the game in the middle
@@tortoisecity For a normal speedrun yes, but I watch someone like Werster, 8h full of resets for the "perfect" starter :D
that's a unique and unparalleled kind of suffering
Hell yeah
hell yeah
hell yeah
I will add that the first manip is really easy to do. I did it on my first try. There is a more complicated one that is more optimal but there is a basic one that is easy to do.
totally! I was completely shocked at how easy the nido manip is, and I am currently learning moon manip, which don't get me wrong is very long and hard to memorise, but not at all technically difficult (pressing a on specific tiles on a specific path, same as nido manip)
also if you do decide to run gen 1 and 2 i highly recommend playing with a Super Famicom controller or Official SNES controller with a mayflash SNES to USB adapter.
I definitely need to buy a more appropriate controller for running at some point, so good to have a suggestion :)
Why I don’t speedrun Gen 1:
I don’t love Nidoking
More power to those who do!
The current routes use clefable
@@Yousef77077 Yo word? Consider me interested.
Oh, word? That’s really interesting. I’ll look into that.
I didn't mention it, but there is a load of already routed alt mains, including clefable, but also blastoise, charizard, farfetch'd, omaster, loads of choices (another great thing about running red)
i say run Pokemon Yellow: Cramorant edition instead! it's a far better and enjoyable run.
Never heard of this until now. Thanks for informing us!
I ran unova red and found that to be pretty fun, so maybe I'll give it a go, thanks for the suggestion!
If you want to be a crazy maniac about it, I believe there’s also potential for using Arbitrary Execution Code or just ACE to speedrun other games and do things like a credit warp in Super Mario Land 2 on Gameboy. th-cam.com/video/SL_Zuc0tlvo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hgOwzR6_QhjH9yVJ
Sadly Zelda might be out of the question.
I've messed around with plenty of glitches in red/blue and crystal as well, and that's always loads of fun, so I might have to try an NSC run at some point too!
Instruction unclear playing other games ;). Helldiver 2
hand stuck in toaster
I hate the idea of speedrunning; almost as much as I hate Nuzlockes. It's fine if other people do it, but it's like the equivalent of having a great meal and trying to scarf it down as fast as possible like a competitive eating contest. Nuzlockes are even worse, because they're extremely stupid and rely on RNG and pure luck. I like watching videos on exploits and insights about the subject, but have no desire to ever do a speedrun of any game myself cause it defeats the purpose. In fact, I usually spend several hundred hours on a single save file; currently on 530+ hours on Ultra Moon trying to build an army of Lv. 50 competitive 'Mons.
fair enough - I myself have the habit of completing pokedexes, because that is also a really fun way to play the game, and speedrunning certainly isn't for everyone!
It's fine if you don't like it, but I would like to inform you that your reasons for disliking speedruns and Nuzlockes are misguided and don't match reality at all.
Nuzlockes actually require a lot of strategy to remove as much RNG as possible.
Speedruns require a deep knowledge of how the game works, and someone achieving a world record often spends thousands of hours playing the game.
In both cases, at a high level, the person playing probably knows more and has enjoyed the game for longer than anyone playing the game regularly.
Again, it's fine not to like it, but you should try to learn more about it; you might enjoy it more than you think.