I've had my Bosch for several months now and just starting to get comfortable with it. I don't use it frequently like you so you'll probably get used to it much quicker. I felt clumsy the first couple of times using it (like getting the lid on and off, etc) but now I'm now accustomed to it. It has its quirks but you'll find yourself getting used to it. I let my dough rise in another bowl but I like to hand kneed the dough a little bit once I get it out of the bowl just to get a feel for its smoothness. Always did that even with my old KA. I like the power of Bosch over KA though I find myself doing the small stuff by hand (old fashion hand mixer). But doing small batches/cookies/cakes by hand was even true for me with my old KA. Will be interesting to see how you do with your new Bosch is upcoming videos.
I just recently bought a Bosch and some folks are saying for cookie dough skip the cookie paddles and stay with the dough hook. I personally haven’t given this a try yet (trying to reduce my calorie intake 😂). You may want to experiment with this if you haven’t done this yet. Thanks so much for your videos and recipes as your are my go to gal! ❤
Awww thanks so much! I actually have another new and exciting mixer I have been playing with. I unboxed it LIVE, but here is the video if you are interested! 😀 th-cam.com/users/livezzlUdrPowb0
ABSOLUTELY LOVE ❤️ my Artiste. Use it for everything. Upgraded from my KA to this because home milling beat the KA to death. No, it didn’t kill it but it got hot. Artiste doesn’t even blink. For me, I LOVE the plastic bowl. It is so easy to clean and the lid completely sealing unlike top fed mixers is wonderful. Lol and Alexa is the best kitchen timer. Best mixer is my best kitchen purchase in a long time.
Yay! I am so glad you are enjoying yours! It is a workhorse for sure! I love to use the Alexa timer, because it is hands free! lol Thanks so much! Happy Baking!
I am just starting my fresh milled wheat journey after a lifetime of baking with storebought flours, so am super thankful for all of your info and tips! But I'm commenting on the background... are those karate belts on the wall? We did the exact same thing with my son's belts 20 years ago. Now that he's flown the nest and married they adorn the wall in our laundry room. Love it!!
Thank you so much! Yes, those are my son's belts that he earned. He is working his way to brown belt next. His dedication and hard work is now over 3 years so!
I got this mixer (and for a great price during Black Friday) and I LOVE it. I really am not very interested in using it for much other than bread so I'm super happy. I had JUST ENOUGH room on my counter for it in a very handy place, and I've been amazed to learn that I can use it (on the slow speed I like to use it -- which is mostly just "1") -- and it does not wake up my housemate whose bedroom is right off the kitchen. YAY....(coz for her own very good reasons she sleeps really late but is also a light sleeper). I have to mill my grain the night before (because that WOULD wake her up), but since I'm mostly into making sourdough bread I can usually take care of all the noisy stuff in the evening anyway. SUPER happy with my Nutrimill Artiste mixer! (I HAVE used it for yeasted breads but my housemate and I prefer the sourdough in the end.)
I have kneaded dough about 2 kg (but not for sourdough) and actually now I normally do about that much, but it's pretty much my limit. I actually recently stopped making sourdough having noticed that the yeasted bread is giving much faster healing responses for me and my housemate. I was proofing my sourdough average 48 hours or more (including fridge) and I figure that it was losing too much nutrition staying uncooked that long. Just my hypothesis, but there you go. I AM keeping my sourdough starter alive and plan to make some yeasted bread with an added cup of starter just for the taste but still baking the bread within a few hours of the flour having been milled. To make the kneading process what for me seems easier, I spread some olive oil inside the mixer bowl with my hands before adding ingredients, then add the wet ingredients that I have already mixed together in a separate bowl and pour that into the mixer with the dough hook taken out. Then I mix the dry ingredients into MOST of my flour -- holding back a cup or two to add as it is mixing. Once I have the first flour (about 5-6 cups) put in, covering the wet ingredients around the mixer bowl I put the dough hook back in, put on the cover and start mixing. I go from there adding the rest of the flour in small amounts until it is coming off the sides. Sometimes the dough climbs up really high on the dough hook, but that hasn't really been a problem. Hope that helps.@@mawawohuuuschwarz3721
I don’t mill my flour, but watching this makes me appreciate my Kitchen aid stand mixer. Just being honest. I did enjoy watching you use this for the first time. Thank you for the video.
I loved my kitchen aid mixer, but baking with it so much using the fresh milled flour, I burnt it up. Poor thing! However, I still can use it for making pasta, and using the front attachments! It just decided when it wants to turn on and off on it's own! lol. Thank you so much! Happy Baking!
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces I can say, I have the artisan KA for everything little, and the Artiste for doughs. I also make my Grandmothers Spanish Polvorone cookies , and the KA could not do it. ( Grandma and Grandpa would hand knead it for a long time). The artiste makes the lightest fluffiest cookie. It handles the Huge batch. So I would say, it is for large and heavy doughs. Cookies are great with the dough hook. I prefer it. My Kitchenaid is on the counter ready for anything for an average family treat . I love the pasta attachments.
Too funny Kara, butter flying all over the place! I do things like that all the time 😊 I ordered the Artiste on Black Friday sale plus your Grainy coupon. What a deal. I can’t wait to make my next recipe from your new book. Excited!
Very nice video. I have 3 KAs, Artisan, Pro 6 a!d 7 qrt DC motor and the Bosch UP. For breads, it’s the Bosch hands down. Everything else I use a corresponding KA model, depending on the task. The new bowl scraper paddle from beater blades is a godsend for KA. No scraping whatsoever and the results are outstanding and minimal cleanup!!! I never use the Bosch’s mixing contraption/scraper - way too much trouble. However, it does a good job (large batches), but just like you found out- it is hell to work with.
I have had this mixer in and out of the cart a dozen times. I think you've saved me some money. I have a larger Kitchen Aid pro, and plenty of attachments for it. But I've had a serious case of FOMO with the Bosch, Artiste and Ank mixers. I make all kinds of stuff, and mostly make sourdough bread. I'm sure it's a fine mixer, but I think I'm going to be good with my KA. Thanks so much for the honest review!
Welcome! ❤ I want to be honest with my reviews, and this one is an amazing mixer, but as with everything else, not every appliance is right for everyone! So, it depends on your primary use, and your preferences. What works for one person may not work for another. And on the other hand what one person dislikes, may be what someone else loves! That is why I am so happy there are so many choices out there!
I love the Ankarsrum wouldn’t trade it for a new car!😉 my KA just could not stand up to my bread making with fresh milled flour. I loved that mixer but it now resides on top of freezer in garage, I can’t part with it too many memories from day one to 34 years later retiring it. It even went to Kitchenaide for a gut make over ( which it was never right after plastic guts I think was the replacement) but my Ank was a gift for Christmas right after the mill purchase. He saved for a bit to get it but I’m so thankful and so is he after the bread comes out of oven!
Awww that is a lovely story. I have heard so many wonderful things about the Ankarsrum mixer. I too can't part with my kitchen aid, I keep it for pasta and shredding mostly (because I already have those attachments, and the mixer itself is so cute.)
yes, I would love to see your live unboxing. I loved the Artiste Mixer. you did a very Indepth job on everything. thank you for such a great review. I subscribed so looking forward to more of your videos. I am in California PST. so let me know for your next unboxing. Please. 🙂
I have the Bosch Universal Plus, it works great for everything, without replaying your video on the measurements, I went and measured the unit, it is less than 11 inches high including lid, 11 inches deep, and 15 1/2 inches wide including the motor for accessories. I put the paddle attachments on and the lid fits fine. That was your one complaint about cake making. Inside diameter of bowl is about 10.5 inches and inside height of bowl approx. 6 inches. The lid is identical to the 2 part lid that you have with the Stainless steel bowl. I usually do Pantry Mama's discard bread and double the recipe, have done 6 loaves no problem. It can do up to 14 loaves, so they say. They are both 6.5 qts warranty on Bosch is 3 years, Artiste 1 year in Canada. Price is more than double for the Bosch but I love mine. Love your videos, you do a great job.
Thank you so much! Yes, I have used it since that first time video, and the lid does fit on with the paddles. I realized I didn't have the paddle all the way into the drive when I tried to put it on. 😜
I am not sure what they changed, because I actually at first thought this was a brand new mixer. But, people let me know in comments that this was discontinued years ago, and brought back. But, I heard they made the motor stronger. The new model came out earlier this year, I believe. (At least that is when I heard of it first.😉
I've had the Bosch compact for a few years now and love it. The KitchenAid was too cumbersome for my arthritic hands. I don't know what I'll do if my Bosch ever breaks as I don't like that center column in the bowl of the mixer you're demonstrating. Maybe use my KitchenAid hand mixer and make batter breads.
I Love my little Bosch compact as well. I did not love the middle shaft in the mixer either. But, I now have an Ankarsrum, and have been loving it. However, I will still keep my Little Bosch compact for smaller jobs! Here is my review using that mixer if you are interested in watching it. th-cam.com/video/h-Ll6t1ob3c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PZ69dlHoTglUQZYG
I really like your videos! I thought your unboxing of the artiste was awesome. I had just ordered mine when I saw it and I did not have a delivery date yet. I now have it but have not opened it yet. I made Sue Beckers Zojirushi recipe bread and have finally gotten a nice loaf. Milling is new for me. Using a mockmill 100 and very happy with it. I have had some physical disability is why I went with bread maker vs hand kneading. I wish I had seen about the Artiste first!! I would not have bought the Zojirushi. In fact the Artiste is a bit less expensive!! I think I would rather bake my bread in the oven and also have the ability to make different breads etc with the artiste mixer. A Bread maker is VERY handy in hot weather (so I WILL get use out of it for sure) I love the bread makers but their timings are all for store bought flour!! Zojirushi does have the ability to set your timings. Plus my kitchen is small with limited counter space. Any way a Live unboxing would be great for interaction but I will be happy with your unboxing regardless. Anytime is good for me with some advance notice please. I live in Virginia
Thank you so much! I have heard many love their Zojirushi bread makers. I have not had the pleasure of using one yet. But, I suppose there are pros and cons to both this Artiste mixer and the bread maker. I think as long as we are making real bread is the most important thing! Thanks again! 😊
I have the Bosch Universal Plus (purchased second hand) and I have found that my home milled flour bread dough needs to be a little stiffer in order to knead the dough efficiently. It should just pull away from the sides of the bowl, rather than stick to the sides. I also never make less than three loaves worth of dough in it. Less than that does not seem to work as well, even though I do have the dough hook extender attachment for it. I am fine with that, since more dough at a time is the main reason I wanted the mixer. The bowl is the same size as the Nutrimill Artiste’s bowl, so some of this information may apply for both.
Stupid to pull the Compact. It was my first stand mixer and I still have it. I now use an Ankarsrum. I also have a BUP but haven't used it yet. It's interesting that you need to use the cover with the Artiste because I've never used the cover on my Compact and as long as I reduce the speed on my Ank, I have no problem with ingredients and the bowl parting company. I think you'd like the Ank because its action tends to require less flour than the recipe calls for but the dough isn't as sticky as what you're getting, i.e. you achieve a soft loaf with easier-to-handle dough. Regardless, very nice demo--enjoy your new mixer! I'm a moderator on an online list for mixer owners and several of our members are looking into the Artiste because they're finding their BUPs a little too big but want something with more capacity than their Compacts.
I agree, but I am hoping maybe they pulled it to do an update on it, and I hope they will bring it back in the future! I hear so many wonderful things about the Ankarsum!
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces trust me, it's right up your alley. This was my introduction to it many moons ago: th-cam.com/video/zMB4CVG5fLs/w-d-xo.html ; this lady is now the national sales manager. Like the Artiste and BUP, there's a bit of a learning curve but the proper bread technique is just a little different than what you do with your Artiste, so you're already on the right track. This is also a nice intro: th-cam.com/video/g03vzFqZ8dA/w-d-xo.html . Incidentally, I like to rest my whole-grain dough for a bit but I wait until the yeast is added and after I've gotten "the doughnut." Not so different from what you do.
Hi there. I'm glad I've found your channel, as you have some really good recipes. Thank you! Do you prefer the Artiste mixer to the Bosch Compact? A friend is selling her Compact, and it includes the blender, slicer/shredder, food processor, meat grinder & sausage attachments, nut graters, cookie presses and citrus juicer. She's asking only $135 for all of it. Just wondered if you think the attachments are good. The mixer itself seems to do a good job on cake, and I've seen your oatmeal & honey bread recipe, so I'm guessing it will also be good for heavy cheesecake batters? I'm really considering buying it. Thanks very much. New subscriber!
Hi, thank you! If it helps I do have a review on the Bosch compact as well! I love mine, but I also just released a review video on my new Ankarsrum mixer today and love it. It depends on what you are looking for and what price range you are wanting. Here is the Bosch Compact Review, I have some of the attachments I show, but I don't have all of them. That seems like a pretty good deal as long as it works, and has all the parts! Happy Baking! 😀 th-cam.com/video/jac7Gy0Q45E/w-d-xo.html
I like lives because I can ask real time questions, but most people do them at dinner time. I guess cuz of work schedules, but I am never able to watch due to dinner prep and meal time. So... I guess if you choose a live, please do it after typical dinner time or maybe a weekend. Thanks for the review!
That is a good thought, and also I suppose the time zone comes into play as well. Since we travel around, we are in different time zones here and there. Thanks for your input! 😊
Thank you for Code! I saved $$ on the Artiste Bundle I just bought for DD and they let me use it on the Grain Mill as well! Wow. I love my Classic grain mill. I’m thinking I might need an Artiste, too. Lol. But my ol’ KA Pro is still going strong! Love your Channel. Thanks for the review.
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces Well, just rewatched your vid. I think I’ll get an Artiste. I’m so afraid of burning up my KA Pro - I hv all the attachments! Lol. Thanks again for your review. ❤
@@cynforrest I hope you got it. I had the KA pro and burnt mine out with making our big batch of Spanish Cookies. We also started doing all sourdough bread. SO between the two, it just died……. I got the Nutrimill Artist and LOVE IT! I wasn’t crazy about all the paddles and plastic, So we got an KA Artisan six months later. I missed the KA for the ready to go cakes, cookies and I make pies etc. Safe your PRO!
I had pretty much the same experience with my artiste. I got it because my kitchenaid couldn't handle dough and the artiste makes dough like a champ. But I still use my kitchenaid for everything else. I love my artiste but if you don't make a lot of bread dough then its probably not worth it.
I agree, it is best for bread and yeast dough recipes, which I do a lot of, but I also do a lot of the other things too! I LOVE my little Bosch compact for those other things. I did just unbox something else if interested, I will have videos with that as well in the future. Here it is th-cam.com/users/livezzlUdrPowb0?si=nXmrRDC1LtMk5QXg
Leave it in mixer it works. I don’t spray just put lid on. I have Ankarsrum but basics are same. I take my roller and scrapper out put lid on let first rise it sticks to side no problem I like my dough sticky. Make softer lighter loaf
I am new to your site. I am considering the Artiste or Bosch. I have a KA. I have grains to start milling. I have made sourdough bread. What would be your suggestion for me? I look forward to seeing more of your videos❤
They are both great mixers. I have been loving using my Ankarsrum mixer! But, there are people who love each mixer! The only pasta attachment I know of that is available is this one www.pjatr.com/t/8-12416-319338-206096?sid=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpleasanthillgrain.com%2Ffettuccine-cutter-attachment-bosch-universal-mixer
The Bosch is a bigger machine than the one I am using in the video, so it probably is fairly sturdy so it doesn't move much while kneading. I hope that helps!
Not awful, probably the same as my other mixer. Everything seems to clean up pretty quickly, as long as you get to it right away and don't let it sit and dry on there, of course, 😆
In the last 27 years i have gone through 3 KitchenAids. The last was the large professional model. They are just not made for everyday bread makers. My opinion. I am looking at the Ankarsrum. I have heard nothing but positive. I need a mixer not afraid of 8 cups of flour or to go past speed #2.
Yes! I love my kitchen aid for some things (like pasta, and the shredding attachment) BUT, it just doesn't hold up to fresh milled flour. I do not regret my Ankarsrum mixer purchase at all! I have a review video on that one too, and a LIVE unboxing of it. Here is my review, and first time using the ANK video link: th-cam.com/video/h-Ll6t1ob3c/w-d-xo.html
hey this is torey here. i’ve had my bosch over 23 years. what is your name? i’ve noticed the bosch rocks while kneeding the bread. what is the noise when my bosch is kneeding? is it the motor or the transmission?
Hi, my name is Kara. I don't have a Bosch mixer, but this is for the Nutrimill Artiste mixer which is very similar. The noise is from the motor running. I hope that helps!
All Bosch pieces can be used on the Artiste. It is so cool. I have the Bosch metal bowl and the Plastic one from the Artiste. I really love the Artiste.
No, it is still going strong! My hubby just always notices when I make a larger batch of anything I have to either get 2 mixers out, or take double the time to make it twice separately. So, we thought we would swing for a bit larger mixer. I still LOVE my little Bosch Compact, and if they ever redesign or put it back on the market, I will be probably the first in line to pick up the new model. I will still be using it for smaller batches, and non bread type things. 😀
I am definitely going to switch to instant yeast as soon as I use up my active yeast. I'm SO excited -- should be getting my Nutrimill Artiste in a week. I have been baking bread for something near five years and have gotten more than weary of kneading dough to the point I just didn't care anymore. I just wanted to eat the bread no matter how poorly the loaves came out, haha. Now I will be able to make PRETTY loaves! (Been home milling -- with a BlendTec blender -- for the past couple of years. I am thankful that works, because it is hard to afford all the great appliances. (Got the Artiste with the Black Friday sale for $120 off -- and even that was a huge stretch for me!) Thank you for showing that recipe for the honey oat wheat bread. It looks FANTASTIC. Seeing your demonstration was helpful for me! I think you said this is a "newly updated" Artiste and I am curious what you meant by that.@@GrainsInSmallPlaces
I hear a lot of the attachments to the Artiste have been known to break due to some of the plastic parts, but people like me who use it mostly just for bread (or pizza crusts) are happy as clams! I also hear that the more expensive accessories that work for the Bosch mixer fit with the Artiste, so if I cared about the accessories I'd probably save up for the Bosch attachments that fit with the Artiste. MANY people leave the lid/cover off when they are kneading -- even when not filming -- so I appreciate it that you made that boo-boo of turning it on before you put in the flour, so now I know to be careful at least until the flour is in there too!
Yay! I am excited for you! The newly updated was told to me by another viewer. They let me know it was discontinued, then revamped and improved and rereleased years later.
I like to add the yeast in after the autolyse, because once I add the yeast is is "activated" So, if I need to autolyze for a longer time, or forget about it, or need to run errands, then I don't have to worry about it. Once I put the yeast in the rise timer "starts" I hope that makes sense!
I think the dough was over kneaded in the second batch. I think at 8 to 10 minutes would have been perfect. I have a Bosch, 15 minutes is too long. When bread dough is kneaded too long the gluten starts to break down. This has happened to me before.
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces yes, they do so much more efficiently. Very good machines. I've also had the ankarsrum and a KitchenAid. I sold those and kept the Bosch.
😂 Ya, it went all over me and everywhere! lol I thought about editing it out, but I figured I would leave my real life errors in. Maybe help someone else to not end up with ingredients all over the place! 😂
I have the Artiste and am so disappointed with it. If I make a batch of bread with more than 5 cups of flour it always shuts down because the motor overheats. Save you money and buy the Bosch they are not the same at all my best friends have Bosch and they never shut down, so by trying to save money I need to trash this one and buy the Bosch, the only upside is I will have an extra bowl.
I am so sorry to hear that. I did end up with the Ankarsrum mixer, and it can handle very large batches of dough. If you are interested in the bigger Bosch and you just got your Artiste, I would recommend contacting Nutrimill and see if they will allow you to exchange it. It doesn't hurt to ask.
I've had my Bosch for several months now and just starting to get comfortable with it. I don't use it frequently like you so you'll probably get used to it much quicker. I felt clumsy the first couple of times using it (like getting the lid on and off, etc) but now I'm now accustomed to it. It has its quirks but you'll find yourself getting used to it. I let my dough rise in another bowl but I like to hand kneed the dough a little bit once I get it out of the bowl just to get a feel for its smoothness. Always did that even with my old KA. I like the power of Bosch over KA though I find myself doing the small stuff by hand (old fashion hand mixer). But doing small batches/cookies/cakes by hand was even true for me with my old KA. Will be interesting to see how you do with your new Bosch is upcoming videos.
Thank you so much! I feel that clumsy feeling you mention! 😆 So many things different than with my KA or my Bosch Compact Mini mixer.
I’ve been very pleased with my Artiste so far. I only make one or two loaves at a time. And the bread dough hook works fine for my cookies, also.
Yay! I am happy to hear that, it is a wonderful mixer, and so many happy bakers with it! Thanks so much! Happy Baking!
I just recently bought a Bosch and some folks are saying for cookie dough skip the cookie paddles and stay with the dough hook. I personally haven’t given this a try yet (trying to reduce my calorie intake 😂). You may want to experiment with this if you haven’t done this yet.
Thanks so much for your videos and recipes as your are my go to gal! ❤
Awww thanks so much! I actually have another new and exciting mixer I have been playing with. I unboxed it LIVE, but here is the video if you are interested! 😀
th-cam.com/users/livezzlUdrPowb0
ABSOLUTELY LOVE ❤️ my Artiste. Use it for everything. Upgraded from my KA to this because home milling beat the KA to death. No, it didn’t kill it but it got hot. Artiste doesn’t even blink. For me, I LOVE the plastic bowl. It is so easy to clean and the lid completely sealing unlike top fed mixers is wonderful. Lol and Alexa is the best kitchen timer.
Best mixer is my best kitchen purchase in a long time.
Yay! I am so glad you are enjoying yours! It is a workhorse for sure! I love to use the Alexa timer, because it is hands free! lol Thanks so much! Happy Baking!
I am just starting my fresh milled wheat journey after a lifetime of baking with storebought flours, so am super thankful for all of your info and tips! But I'm commenting on the background... are those karate belts on the wall? We did the exact same thing with my son's belts 20 years ago. Now that he's flown the nest and married they adorn the wall in our laundry room. Love it!!
Thank you so much! Yes, those are my son's belts that he earned. He is working his way to brown belt next. His dedication and hard work is now over 3 years so!
I got this mixer (and for a great price during Black Friday) and I LOVE it. I really am not very interested in using it for much other than bread so I'm super happy. I had JUST ENOUGH room on my counter for it in a very handy place, and I've been amazed to learn that I can use it (on the slow speed I like to use it -- which is mostly just "1") -- and it does not wake up my housemate whose bedroom is right off the kitchen. YAY....(coz for her own very good reasons she sleeps really late but is also a light sleeper). I have to mill my grain the night before (because that WOULD wake her up), but since I'm mostly into making sourdough bread I can usually take care of all the noisy stuff in the evening anyway. SUPER happy with my Nutrimill Artiste mixer! (I HAVE used it for yeasted breads but my housemate and I prefer the sourdough in the end.)
Yay! I am so happy to hear that! Thanks!
And thank you for your many tips! @@GrainsInSmallPlaces
May I ask: For your sourdough baking, have you tried mixing dough for bigger loaves, like let's say 2 kg?
I have kneaded dough about 2 kg (but not for sourdough) and actually now I normally do about that much, but it's pretty much my limit. I actually recently stopped making sourdough having noticed that the yeasted bread is giving much faster healing responses for me and my housemate. I was proofing my sourdough average 48 hours or more (including fridge) and I figure that it was losing too much nutrition staying uncooked that long. Just my hypothesis, but there you go. I AM keeping my sourdough starter alive and plan to make some yeasted bread with an added cup of starter just for the taste but still baking the bread within a few hours of the flour having been milled.
To make the kneading process what for me seems easier, I spread some olive oil inside the mixer bowl with my hands before adding ingredients, then add the wet ingredients that I have already mixed together in a separate bowl and pour that into the mixer with the dough hook taken out. Then I mix the dry ingredients into MOST of my flour -- holding back a cup or two to add as it is mixing. Once I have the first flour (about 5-6 cups) put in, covering the wet ingredients around the mixer bowl I put the dough hook back in, put on the cover and start mixing. I go from there adding the rest of the flour in small amounts until it is coming off the sides. Sometimes the dough climbs up really high on the dough hook, but that hasn't really been a problem. Hope that helps.@@mawawohuuuschwarz3721
I have the Bosch and I move the dough into another bowl.
I use mine mostly for bread. Hand mixer for cakes and cookies.
That is what I am thinking, it is amazing for bread, but I may stick with my Compact for the other things. 😀
I don’t mill my flour, but watching this makes me appreciate my Kitchen aid stand mixer. Just being honest. I did enjoy watching you use this for the first time. Thank you for the video.
I loved my kitchen aid mixer, but baking with it so much using the fresh milled flour, I burnt it up. Poor thing! However, I still can use it for making pasta, and using the front attachments! It just decided when it wants to turn on and off on it's own! lol. Thank you so much! Happy Baking!
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces I can say, I have the artisan KA for everything little, and the Artiste for doughs. I also make my Grandmothers Spanish Polvorone cookies , and the KA could not do it. ( Grandma and Grandpa would hand knead it for a long time). The artiste makes the lightest fluffiest cookie. It handles the Huge batch. So I would say, it is for large and heavy doughs. Cookies are great with the dough hook. I prefer it. My Kitchenaid is on the counter ready for anything for an average family treat . I love the pasta attachments.
Too funny Kara, butter flying all over the place! I do things like that all the time 😊 I ordered the Artiste on Black Friday sale plus your Grainy coupon. What a deal. I can’t wait to make my next recipe from your new book. Excited!
That’s awesome! LOL I hope you love it! :) Thanks!
Very nice video. I have 3 KAs, Artisan, Pro 6 a!d 7 qrt DC motor and the Bosch UP. For breads, it’s the Bosch hands down. Everything else I use a corresponding KA model, depending on the task. The new bowl scraper paddle from beater blades is a godsend for KA. No scraping whatsoever and the results are outstanding and minimal cleanup!!! I never use the Bosch’s mixing contraption/scraper - way too much trouble. However, it does a good job (large batches), but just like you found out- it is hell to work with.
Thank you for your input! Helpful for anyone looking for comparisons of those mixers!
Wow. I've been wondering for a month what KA meant -- and I just figured it out, haha!
I just got my Artiste, so far it's a trooper. Sure beats hand kneading and it's been great for all my other baking.
Yay! I am so happy to hear that! Nutrimill makes some pretty amazing machines!
I have had this mixer in and out of the cart a dozen times. I think you've saved me some money. I have a larger Kitchen Aid pro, and plenty of attachments for it. But I've had a serious case of FOMO with the Bosch, Artiste and Ank mixers. I make all kinds of stuff, and mostly make sourdough bread. I'm sure it's a fine mixer, but I think I'm going to be good with my KA. Thanks so much for the honest review!
Welcome! ❤ I want to be honest with my reviews, and this one is an amazing mixer, but as with everything else, not every appliance is right for everyone! So, it depends on your primary use, and your preferences. What works for one person may not work for another. And on the other hand what one person dislikes, may be what someone else loves! That is why I am so happy there are so many choices out there!
I love the Ankarsrum wouldn’t trade it for a new car!😉 my KA just could not stand up to my bread making with fresh milled flour. I loved that mixer but it now resides on top of freezer in garage, I can’t part with it too many memories from day one to 34 years later retiring it. It even went to Kitchenaide for a gut make over ( which it was never right after plastic guts I think was the replacement) but my Ank was a gift for Christmas right after the mill purchase. He saved for a bit to get it but I’m so thankful and so is he after the bread comes out of oven!
Awww that is a lovely story. I have heard so many wonderful things about the Ankarsrum mixer. I too can't part with my kitchen aid, I keep it for pasta and shredding mostly (because I already have those attachments, and the mixer itself is so cute.)
yes, I would love to see your live unboxing. I loved the Artiste Mixer. you did a very Indepth job on everything. thank you for such a great review. I subscribed so looking forward to more of your videos. I am in California PST. so let me know for your next unboxing. Please. 🙂
Yay! I am glad you found me! Welcome! I did a live unboxing , here is the link to the replay if interested. Thanks! th-cam.com/users/livezzlUdrPowb0
I have the Bosch Universal Plus, it works great for everything, without replaying your video on the measurements, I went and measured the unit, it is less than 11 inches high including lid, 11 inches deep, and 15 1/2 inches wide including the motor for accessories. I put the paddle attachments on and the lid fits fine. That was your one complaint about cake making. Inside diameter of bowl is about 10.5 inches and inside height of bowl approx. 6 inches. The lid is identical to the 2 part lid that you have with the Stainless steel bowl. I usually do Pantry Mama's discard bread and double the recipe, have done 6 loaves no problem. It can do up to 14 loaves, so they say. They are both 6.5 qts warranty on Bosch is 3 years, Artiste 1 year in Canada. Price is more than double for the Bosch but I love mine. Love your videos, you do a great job.
Thank you so much! Yes, I have used it since that first time video, and the lid does fit on with the paddles. I realized I didn't have the paddle all the way into the drive when I tried to put it on. 😜
It is all such a learning experience. I definitely have a harder time baking with fresh milled grains. @@GrainsInSmallPlaces
Ih ya! It is a big learning curve! That is what inspired me to make my channel and blog to help others who are learning through that curve! ❤️
hey karra its torey here. with my bosch mixer i let my bread kneed for 6 to 8 minutes then i put my bread dough in a big bread bowl.
Ahh thanks so much!
Do you happen to know what is different from this Artiste from the one that was discontinued and when the new one came out? Excellent review.
I am not sure what they changed, because I actually at first thought this was a brand new mixer. But, people let me know in comments that this was discontinued years ago, and brought back. But, I heard they made the motor stronger. The new model came out earlier this year, I believe. (At least that is when I heard of it first.😉
I've had the Bosch compact for a few years now and love it. The KitchenAid was too cumbersome for my arthritic hands. I don't know what I'll do if my Bosch ever breaks as I don't like that center column in the bowl of the mixer you're demonstrating. Maybe use my KitchenAid hand mixer and make batter breads.
I Love my little Bosch compact as well. I did not love the middle shaft in the mixer either. But, I now have an Ankarsrum, and have been loving it. However, I will still keep my Little Bosch compact for smaller jobs! Here is my review using that mixer if you are interested in watching it. th-cam.com/video/h-Ll6t1ob3c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PZ69dlHoTglUQZYG
Thank you.
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces
I really like your videos! I thought your unboxing of the artiste was awesome. I had just ordered mine when I saw it and I did not have a delivery date yet. I now have it but have not opened it yet. I made Sue Beckers Zojirushi recipe bread and have finally gotten a nice loaf. Milling is new for me. Using a mockmill 100 and very happy with it. I have had some physical disability is why I went with bread maker vs hand kneading. I wish I had seen about the Artiste first!! I would not have bought the Zojirushi. In fact the Artiste is a bit less expensive!! I think I would rather bake my bread in the oven and also have the ability to make different breads etc with the artiste mixer. A Bread maker is VERY handy in hot weather (so I WILL get use out of it for sure) I love the bread makers but their timings are all for store bought flour!! Zojirushi does have the ability to set your timings. Plus my kitchen is small with limited counter space. Any way a Live unboxing would be great for interaction but I will be happy with your unboxing regardless. Anytime is good for me with some advance notice please. I live in Virginia
Thank you so much! I have heard many love their Zojirushi bread makers. I have not had the pleasure of using one yet. But, I suppose there are pros and cons to both this Artiste mixer and the bread maker. I think as long as we are making real bread is the most important thing! Thanks again! 😊
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces absolutely true and Thank You
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I have the Bosch Universal Plus (purchased second hand) and I have found that my home milled flour bread dough needs to be a little stiffer in order to knead the dough efficiently. It should just pull away from the sides of the bowl, rather than stick to the sides. I also never make less than three loaves worth of dough in it. Less than that does not seem to work as well, even though I do have the dough hook extender attachment for it. I am fine with that, since more dough at a time is the main reason I wanted the mixer. The bowl is the same size as the Nutrimill Artiste’s bowl, so some of this information may apply for both.
Thanks for the tips! 😀
Hello I let my dough rise in the bowl of my Bosch mixer.😊
Awesome! Thanks!
Stupid to pull the Compact. It was my first stand mixer and I still have it.
I now use an Ankarsrum. I also have a BUP but haven't used it yet. It's interesting that you need to use the cover with the Artiste because I've never used the cover on my Compact and as long as I reduce the speed on my Ank, I have no problem with ingredients and the bowl parting company. I think you'd like the Ank because its action tends to require less flour than the recipe calls for but the dough isn't as sticky as what you're getting, i.e. you achieve a soft loaf with easier-to-handle dough. Regardless, very nice demo--enjoy your new mixer! I'm a moderator on an online list for mixer owners and several of our members are looking into the Artiste because they're finding their BUPs a little too big but want something with more capacity than their Compacts.
I agree, but I am hoping maybe they pulled it to do an update on it, and I hope they will bring it back in the future! I hear so many wonderful things about the Ankarsum!
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces trust me, it's right up your alley. This was my introduction to it many moons ago: th-cam.com/video/zMB4CVG5fLs/w-d-xo.html ; this lady is now the national sales manager. Like the Artiste and BUP, there's a bit of a learning curve but the proper bread technique is just a little different than what you do with your Artiste, so you're already on the right track. This is also a nice intro: th-cam.com/video/g03vzFqZ8dA/w-d-xo.html .
Incidentally, I like to rest my whole-grain dough for a bit but I wait until the yeast is added and after I've gotten "the doughnut." Not so different from what you do.
Cool! Thanks! 😊
My mom gifted me the Bosch mixer & i ❤❤❤ it. I also agree with you, a pour spout would be a plus. Isn't it amazing with bread?! 😊
Oh, as far as a LIVE.... evenings are good for us, but we are in the Pacific zone. LIVE is so fun! You'll do 👍 great.
Aww thanks so much! 😀
It i wonderful with bread! Great mixer indeed, with some things I like and some things I would change. 😀
Hi there. I'm glad I've found your channel, as you have some really good recipes. Thank you! Do you prefer the Artiste mixer to the Bosch Compact? A friend is selling her Compact, and it includes the blender, slicer/shredder, food processor, meat grinder & sausage attachments, nut graters, cookie presses and citrus juicer. She's asking only $135 for all of it. Just wondered if you think the attachments are good. The mixer itself seems to do a good job on cake, and I've seen your oatmeal & honey bread recipe, so I'm guessing it will also be good for heavy cheesecake batters? I'm really considering buying it. Thanks very much. New subscriber!
Hi, thank you! If it helps I do have a review on the Bosch compact as well! I love mine, but I also just released a review video on my new Ankarsrum mixer today and love it. It depends on what you are looking for and what price range you are wanting. Here is the Bosch Compact Review, I have some of the attachments I show, but I don't have all of them. That seems like a pretty good deal as long as it works, and has all the parts! Happy Baking! 😀
th-cam.com/video/jac7Gy0Q45E/w-d-xo.html
I like lives because I can ask real time questions, but most people do them at dinner time. I guess cuz of work schedules, but I am never able to watch due to dinner prep and meal time. So... I guess if you choose a live, please do it after typical dinner time or maybe a weekend. Thanks for the review!
That is a good thought, and also I suppose the time zone comes into play as well. Since we travel around, we are in different time zones here and there. Thanks for your input! 😊
Thank you for Code! I saved $$ on the Artiste Bundle I just bought for DD and they let me use it on the Grain Mill as well! Wow. I love my Classic grain mill. I’m thinking I might need an Artiste, too. Lol. But my ol’ KA Pro is still going strong! Love your Channel. Thanks for the review.
You are so welcome! Thank you so much! They have great products!
Where can I get the code? I'm considering an Artiste
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces Well, just rewatched your vid. I think I’ll get an Artiste. I’m so afraid of burning up my KA Pro - I hv all the attachments! Lol. Thanks again for your review. ❤
@@cynforrest I hope you got it. I had the KA pro and burnt mine out with making our big batch of Spanish Cookies. We also started doing all sourdough bread. SO between the two, it just died……. I got the Nutrimill Artist and LOVE IT! I wasn’t crazy about all the paddles and plastic, So we got an KA Artisan six months later. I missed the KA for the ready to go cakes, cookies and I make pies etc. Safe your PRO!
Just bought the Nutrimill and used your code, thanks!
Yay! I am so excited for you! Thanks!
I had pretty much the same experience with my artiste. I got it because my kitchenaid couldn't handle dough and the artiste makes dough like a champ. But I still use my kitchenaid for everything else. I love my artiste but if you don't make a lot of bread dough then its probably not worth it.
I agree, it is best for bread and yeast dough recipes, which I do a lot of, but I also do a lot of the other things too! I LOVE my little Bosch compact for those other things. I did just unbox something else if interested, I will have videos with that as well in the future. Here it is th-cam.com/users/livezzlUdrPowb0?si=nXmrRDC1LtMk5QXg
Leave it in mixer it works. I don’t spray just put lid on. I have Ankarsrum but basics are same. I take my roller and scrapper out put lid on let first rise it sticks to side no problem I like my dough sticky. Make softer lighter loaf
Awesome Thanks for letting me know! 😊
❤ love is fun, but I like early to mid afternoon! Love your videos - they are real!
Thank you so much!!! 😊
I am new to your site. I am considering the Artiste or Bosch. I have a KA. I have grains to start milling. I have made sourdough bread. What would be your suggestion for me? I look forward to seeing more of your videos❤
Really you can't go wrong with either one. It boils down to price point, size, attachments, warranty, and preference. Thank you so much!
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces thank you for your response.
Good review. Thank you. But I think I’ll stick with my Bosch compact.
I do love my Bosch Compact Mixer! But, sometimes I do want to make larger batches. I will probably always keep my little Bosch Compact! ❤
26:50 The metal bowl you have has the same 2 piece top as the Universal.
Oh, nice. Thank you! 😀
So, which do you like better this Bosch or the Ankarsrum? And do you know where I can get a pasta attachment for the Bosch?
They are both great mixers. I have been loving using my Ankarsrum mixer! But, there are people who love each mixer! The only pasta attachment I know of that is available is this one
www.pjatr.com/t/8-12416-319338-206096?sid=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpleasanthillgrain.com%2Ffettuccine-cutter-attachment-bosch-universal-mixer
and another question. why can’t you feel the bosch or mixer when its kneeding the bread? i’m also blind and also a musicia as well.n
The Bosch is a bigger machine than the one I am using in the video, so it probably is fairly sturdy so it doesn't move much while kneading. I hope that helps!
How was clean-up? Once you got it apart, that is!
Not awful, probably the same as my other mixer. Everything seems to clean up pretty quickly, as long as you get to it right away and don't let it sit and dry on there, of course, 😆
What are your thoughts when compared to your newest mixer Ankarsum (sp?)???
I have never used a mixer that compares to the gentle kneading my Ankarsrum has. I LOVE it! :)
In the last 27 years i have gone through 3 KitchenAids. The last was the large professional model. They are just not made for everyday bread makers. My opinion.
I am looking at the Ankarsrum. I have heard nothing but positive. I need a mixer not afraid of 8 cups of flour or to go past speed #2.
Yes! I love my kitchen aid for some things (like pasta, and the shredding attachment) BUT, it just doesn't hold up to fresh milled flour. I do not regret my Ankarsrum mixer purchase at all! I have a review video on that one too, and a LIVE unboxing of it. Here is my review, and first time using the ANK video link: th-cam.com/video/h-Ll6t1ob3c/w-d-xo.html
hey this is torey here. i’ve had my bosch over 23 years. what is your name? i’ve noticed the bosch rocks while kneeding the bread. what is the noise when my bosch is kneeding? is it the motor or the transmission?
Hi, my name is Kara. I don't have a Bosch mixer, but this is for the Nutrimill Artiste mixer which is very similar. The noise is from the motor running. I hope that helps!
Does this mixer come with the stainless steel bowl?
You can purchase one for it, but it does not come stock in the box.
All Bosch pieces can be used on the Artiste. It is so cool. I have the Bosch metal bowl and the Plastic one from the Artiste. I really love the Artiste.
Did your Bosch compact quit?
No, it is still going strong! My hubby just always notices when I make a larger batch of anything I have to either get 2 mixers out, or take double the time to make it twice separately. So, we thought we would swing for a bit larger mixer. I still LOVE my little Bosch Compact, and if they ever redesign or put it back on the market, I will be probably the first in line to pick up the new model. I will still be using it for smaller batches, and non bread type things. 😀
Are you using active or instant yeast in this recipe?
I typically use instant yeast.
I am definitely going to switch to instant yeast as soon as I use up my active yeast. I'm SO excited -- should be getting my Nutrimill Artiste in a week. I have been baking bread for something near five years and have gotten more than weary of kneading dough to the point I just didn't care anymore. I just wanted to eat the bread no matter how poorly the loaves came out, haha. Now I will be able to make PRETTY loaves! (Been home milling -- with a BlendTec blender -- for the past couple of years. I am thankful that works, because it is hard to afford all the great appliances. (Got the Artiste with the Black Friday sale for $120 off -- and even that was a huge stretch for me!) Thank you for showing that recipe for the honey oat wheat bread. It looks FANTASTIC. Seeing your demonstration was helpful for me! I think you said this is a "newly updated" Artiste and I am curious what you meant by that.@@GrainsInSmallPlaces
I hear a lot of the attachments to the Artiste have been known to break due to some of the plastic parts, but people like me who use it mostly just for bread (or pizza crusts) are happy as clams! I also hear that the more expensive accessories that work for the Bosch mixer fit with the Artiste, so if I cared about the accessories I'd probably save up for the Bosch attachments that fit with the Artiste. MANY people leave the lid/cover off when they are kneading -- even when not filming -- so I appreciate it that you made that boo-boo of turning it on before you put in the flour, so now I know to be careful at least until the flour is in there too!
Yay! I am excited for you! The newly updated was told to me by another viewer. They let me know it was discontinued, then revamped and improved and rereleased years later.
Thanks! Oh wow. That is interesting.@@GrainsInSmallPlaces
Why do you add the yeast in late?
I like to add the yeast in after the autolyse, because once I add the yeast is is "activated" So, if I need to autolyze for a longer time, or forget about it, or need to run errands, then I don't have to worry about it. Once I put the yeast in the rise timer "starts" I hope that makes sense!
I think the dough was over kneaded in the second batch. I think at 8 to 10 minutes would have been perfect. I have a Bosch, 15 minutes is too long. When bread dough is kneaded too long the gluten starts to break down. This has happened to me before.
Thanks! I have noticed the Bosch & Artiste knead the dough much faster than some of the other mixers on the market.
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces yes, they do so much more efficiently. Very good machines. I've also had the ankarsrum and a KitchenAid. I sold those and kept the Bosch.
I have a Artist land move my dough to another bowl
Nice, thanks!
Rise in same bowl!!!❤
Thanks! 😀
10:08 yes my Bosch Universal is much much quicker than my Kitchenaid ever was.
Yes! It is so much faster at kneading bread! 😀
What else besides bread ?
You can make anything that requires a mixer in this Artiste mixer! Happy Baking!
Leave it in the bowl.i do
Awesome! Thanks! I don't want to dirty more dishes than necessary is my way of thinking! 😃
That was funny…the pulse
😂 Ya, it went all over me and everywhere! lol I thought about editing it out, but I figured I would leave my real life errors in. Maybe help someone else to not end up with ingredients all over the place! 😂
I have the Artiste and am so disappointed with it. If I make a batch of bread with more than 5 cups of flour it always shuts down because the motor overheats. Save you money and buy the Bosch they are not the same at all my best friends have Bosch and they never shut down, so by trying to save money I need to trash this one and buy the Bosch, the only upside is I will have an extra bowl.
I am so sorry to hear that. I did end up with the Ankarsrum mixer, and it can handle very large batches of dough. If you are interested in the bigger Bosch and you just got your Artiste, I would recommend contacting Nutrimill and see if they will allow you to exchange it. It doesn't hurt to ask.
Stop yell-talking. Just my thoughts.
I'm sorry I have a naturally loud voice that projects. I am working on it. Thanks!
@@GrainsInSmallPlaces it comes through your vid speaker a bit shrill, sorry. But the vid was great otherwise.
what's yell-talking? I thought she was talking normal the whole time.
@@Shay0777 I guess it’s in the ear of the beholder 🤭☺️