Bought mine 3 years ago. 2008 100k manual .1 S model. No oil comsumption/weird noises, pulls nicely and by the moment just oil changes and normal maintenance. 50.000km of pure satisfaction. Really really good car. Love it.
This car is actually pretty easy to work on and there are so many resources online on DIY jobs. Suspension rebuild over the weekend can be done with basic hand tools. Oil changes do not require taking out any undertray cover like other sporty cars.
You do save yourself money but the trade off is spending money on tools, I probably invested 5k in tools but the money I save in labor is worth it and nothing beats the satisfaction of getting it done yourself
I had a 2008, 987 RS60 Spyder for six years. The first three years were mostly maintenance, then all hell broke loose. I think I ended up replacing every main component, like water pump, fuel pump, alternator, top mounts, control arms, windscreen, window regualtors. However after 5 years the entire engine imploded and small crank bearing shattered into the engine and destroyed it. So, I paid £5200 for a new/reconditioned engine. Had it for a further year but still had issues. Almost got stranded in mid-Wales when the gear leaver cables broke, Had to drive it home in 4th over 70 miles. I ended up selling it for relative peanuts (£10k,) just to get rid of it. It was worth £15k plus all day long, but I had had enough. When I finally saw the new owner drive off in it, I had never felt relief like it before. Was one the happiest days of my life and I had gone from a Porsche fanboy to a Porsche hater in my ownership. STAY AWAY FROM THESE OVERRATED GERMANIC MONEY PITS.
@@popeye9048 How can it have been a dud when it was reasonably OK for first three years? The woman who re-built the engine - Cath Burrows a Porsche specialist - warned me off them too. She didn't drive one lets just put it that way. The thing with Porsches is people can't see beyond the badge and they get over-worshipped. OK as weekend toys and driveway ornamnents.
I've had my 987.1 since 2012. In 2022 it had a full engine rebuild by Hartech when the dreaded piston slap started at about 26,000 miles. Since then it has been completely reliable but I'm only doing about 1500 miles a year in it. The body work is in perfect condition but I live on the Isle of Wight where the winters aren't that cold. It was garaged until 2021 but since then has been living outside. It seems to be quite happy despite the saline atmosphere. Your exhaust sounds FAB!
I commented a while ago on a video that I was going to get one of these. I’ve had it now for nearly 6 months and love it. No real problems so far but the first service and inspection under my ownership is happening very soon so fingers crossed! Thanks for your videos they help me plan what I want to do with the car and it’s reassuring sharing the anxiety of big bills together 🤣
Glad you have the right attitude regarding “Porsche Tax”! I still struggle with it to some extent, but it’s the cost of admission into a world full of opportunities. Your wife must be extremely patient. 😜 Great video! P.S. - your home looks beautiful. 👍
Buy a base model, high mileage with many of the big jobs done, coolant pipes, condensers etc and with some mods new head unit , exhaust etc. Also fsh and check mot records and a lot of expense can be spared
Hi Joe, Saw you at the R7 event the other weekend. Great Channel, I've been watching a while as we have recently bought a 2007 987 Boxster S (our first Porsche - Well wife's really as I have a Golf) so your content is very relevent to us.
Love the Cayman, even the 987.1 is still a nice car, however Porsche warranty is worth every penny - it fixes your costs and removes the drama of stuff breaking that requires spending more $$$. This does move the window of what you can buy to something newer, but you can extend warranty for 15 years so even something around 2015 could be a great purchase. Having said that, I've watched you repair and replace just about everything that you can... hopefully you can enjoy this car for a while with very few bills. Great videos.
Thank you! I have always said if I come to replace I’m going newer and a warranty, as good as this has been for content it’s killed me off. 🤣 I think the 987.1 does actually look better than the new ones but with what I have spent I probably should have just got a new one in the first place 🤣
Wow I have a cayman but the 2.7 engine and over the last 3 years spent around £800, I had a coil fail, oil & filter every year and two new rear p-zero one tyres
You should add the qualifier that the later 981 model will likely cost far less to maintain. I have a 2015 981 GTS which has cost me far less than my VW van to maintain, the latter has been a nightmare, the Porche a dream! Do you have links for the AliExpress head unit that you got as there were no links on screen or in the description. Thanks!
You are correct with that! A newer car would have been much cheaper to run that this old thing. I do love it tho! The headunit is all in this video th-cam.com/video/xfMVqaXZVoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dgC3nMUMTXY4E8Sg
I bought a 987.2 S earlier this year for £16K and it cost me a further 8K to refresh it. Condensers, coolant pipes, suspension, oil leak etc etc. I knew going in it needed work so I was happy to do it for the spec I got. This is before I think of modifying it, but hopefully now I have the major problems rectified for next years roadtrips.
Wow! It’s mad isn’t it! Shows that if you get one that has done the miles and had the work done it’s better than a low mileage car with everything needing doing.
Don’t want to tempt fate, touch wood and all that, but past 12 months: maintenance £100, road tax just under £400, insurance circa £340. The 2.7 (5 speed - tax for the 6 speed is much higher) seems to be the sweet spot (so far).
@@JoeTalksCarsThe £100 on maintenance this past year was just new wheel bolts, because the old ones looked a bit tatty :) …. To be fair, the previous year I paid for a big service to bring absolutely everything up to schedule and a replacement (Porsche) water pump (those seem to go at around 50k miles on all the 987.1, I think: thankfully I was expecting it and heard the signs before it got to the stage of packing in completely, so no damage).
Joe, I've lost track of how much you have spent on the car in previous years, can you give a total on maintenance/ repair costs over your entire ownership. As from previous video's I imagine the total cost will be quite high and begs the question if it is worth saving up for longer and getting a newer car with fewer costs, thank you.
I took my 987.1 Cayman S 07 for a major service yesterday and rear spring coil replacement around £1200 and left with the car today needing coil pack replacement, suspension arm replacing and other things before its mot is due with a fuether bill of £2500. Love for these cars is painful at times!
@@JoeTalksCars It's an independent, they advised it would fail an MOT if I didn't get these done but had the MOT today and straight pass! Guess I'll find another garage to do the work! Keep on keeping on as love the videos
It's great video, I will say I own a 987 And I haven't spent a penny in the last 7 months , I do however do very little mileage only weekends where you are using the car dramatically so it probably makes sense.
Great vid Joe. I’ve recently sold my 987 Boxster s, one bill too many. That was the coolant pipes, they are very expensive to replace( over £2000) they have special connections so you can’t use anything other than the correct ones. Also changed the exhaust as the back boxes rusted out, another £1000. Also had issues with the control box under the passenger seat due to water getting in despite the drain pipes being clear(Wales isn’t a great place for soft tops…it rains all the time😂) Absolutely loved the car but kept it too long, as you say, after 15 years eventually all these things will need changing, plus the deadly bore score. But if you’ve got one that is up to scratch and already had the big issues sorted, they are fantastic cars to drive. Keep smiling cheers 👍 like your coffee machine by the way!
Thank you! Glad you liked the video. Coffee machine is only cheap but it’s really good! More reliable than the car 🤣 I think it’s just this age of car, most things need doing, sometimes for the second time! Bet you miss it!
I got rid of mine when the ignition switch failed on the way to a ferry one night and they charged £650-00 to fix it. Cannot put up with unreliable money pits.
Interesting what you call really old. I have a 08 Lexus GS460 V8 and apart from a replacement radiator and suspension this year costing £1k it doesn't cost that much maintenance. I do have a 1994 MR2 turbo at 436hp and it's very reliable 🤔
@@dw4525 I guess you're right... I don't fully blame people. I mean paying £350 odd to have a M140i or Golf R has it's appeal. I've had my 30 year old enthusias's MR2 since 2008 had the engine built when i got bored of 300hp. It's never broken down.... Maybe I'm lucky. Also the lexus apart from the radiator i mentioned before. It's just been oil changes and scheduled services..
Have you even done a suspension arm refresh as yet?? That’ll be next, I’ve just done it. I’ve spent c£6k this year on mine, without fuel or tax and insurance. That said it includes some modifications. I don’t expect those costs to continue as I was replacing parts that had been on the car for 16years! So theoretically that’s another 16 years worth of driving or £375 a year…not too bad
Thanks for a great video, stunned by your insurance cost! I live in war zone Birmingham and my 987 Boxster was £340 last year. Sure I am older than you though. I park on my driveway. That was with saga
Joe. Really. Thank you. I was seriously considering a 987.2 but you have highlighted I just dont have the capacity for it. Folks! PSA: (Edit: if you can't get/don't want a Porsche) BUY A MAZDA! More fun, doesnt handle as well, but youll own an MX-5 for 4 years before spendjng a 5th of this!😁 I regret selling mine every day! I sold it for more than rhe purchase cost, and the ONLY large expense you will ever incur is rust and catalytic converters 😊
@@JoeTalksCars after quite a lot of Reddit searching I think it's common place. Things are great if you don't get a garage to do them. And most servicing isn't bad until something goes bang. But things can rack up quite quickly, and I would want mine as a second car. No point putting a Porsche through a 140 mile round trip commute! 🥲 One day! I think they're worth it with how they will appreciate over time! 😁 Thanks for the honesty, and the undying love for your little motor!
Great video thank you. That’s a shed load of money for a car that old. I own a 7 year old 718 Cayman S that doesn’t cost me anywhere near that annual cost of yours, it may not sound as good but everything else is probably better. They are all great cars though 👍
Welcome to Belgium, for a 3.4 1998 996 you pay €2450 yearly roadtax, around €650 insurance for a year (this is only for 3rd party when something happens), and lets say you have a cheap year with just an oil- and filterchange at around € 120 in parts/fluids, so that makes €3220 without putting a single drop of fuel in or driving it a single kilometer on the terrible roads we have here.
Wow 😯. I’ve got a Gen 2 2.9 and the tax an insurance is £426 a year (14000 miles as a daily) and tax about £35 a month. Annual service rather than Porsche intervals as it’s 2009.. It would be as cheap for me to get a Hyundai ioniq 5 n on the work scheme but feels right to stick with proper engineering and ICE while we can
@@JoeTalksCars We still have Porsches. When they are oldtimer (30 years, its only +- €100 a year on roadtax). But thinks like this kill 996/997/991.1 ownership because of displacement and CO2. Then again you can choose to only have them registered for half a year and pay +- half the tax. Then keep in mind, everytime in Belgium when a car changes owner you have to also pay BIV, some sort of tax for briging a car into traffic. Also on these cars, it's painfull.
Just to correct something you said. We dont pay road tax, we pay vehicle excise duty. This is based on the CO2 output which is why, until this year, electric cars dont pay. The roads are maintained from general taxation.
You could be paying a lot more than that just driving a Vw,Kia or any other car if you put finance payements into the equation,. Which i assume you don't have
So Joe, first let my thank you for sharring your final expences to owning a 987. I need to say, I'm for sure a perfectionist. I have sadly to agree to these anual costs. But these examples will survive and become veterans....... The rest will disapear. 944 are good examples, avoid low milage garage queens. A cheap Porsche in a hand of an enthuiast, sorry folks, doesn:t exist........ . But I love my car same you do. Kind regards, Urs, 987.2, 2011 from Switzerland
£350 for car insurance, on a Porsche. We must be living in different worlds. Yes, I appreciate postcode etc, but even still. That is very cheap indeed.
Hi Joe, I’m loving your new style of production especially the intros of your videos. The running cost is staggering, I had a 987.2 that was low mileage 54k, guards reds 2.9 Cayman, I drove the car weekend only yet the running cost was far too much hence I sold it. The replacement 981 Cayman with 2 years Porsche warranty is a more robustly reliable model, since May not a single niggle just an MOT failure for a small bulge in the tyre, the MOT garage was a tyre shop 😂 so I bought one Pirelli p zero N rated tyre for a whooping £250. Why do we spend this much on our Porsches? It gets under our skin….the emotional attachment to the way it sounds, drive and snaps left/right to change direction, the speed that it can drive through a big roundabout and exit is shockingly alarming not even a full blood 911 will drive that fast on twisty roads. Then the cold starts on a winter morning with a puff of smoke 💨 and a metallic splutter before the BoxEngine sparks to life….this is not just a car, it is the Porsche lifestyle. So keep on building memories that money can never buy…Joe with the Porsche!
I get that. No, I would buy again, I just didn’t think about the issues or look too much at service history. This car hadn’t done the miles but hadn’t also had all the annoying and expensive things done. Imagine if I sold it now. It would be a great buy for the next person.
Most definitely not worth it for an old underpowered vehicle ... You need a newer better performing version or something else.. luckily road tax doesn't exist in my country..
Bought mine 3 years ago. 2008 100k manual .1 S model. No oil comsumption/weird noises, pulls nicely and by the moment just oil changes and normal maintenance. 50.000km of pure satisfaction.
Really really good car. Love it.
This car is actually pretty easy to work on and there are so many resources online on DIY jobs. Suspension rebuild over the weekend can be done with basic hand tools. Oil changes do not require taking out any undertray cover like other sporty cars.
I’d love to do some work myself! I just don’t have a suitable place to work on it
You do save yourself money but the trade off is spending money on tools, I probably invested 5k in tools but the money I save in labor is worth it and nothing beats the satisfaction of getting it done yourself
I had a 2008, 987 RS60 Spyder for six years. The first three years were mostly maintenance, then all hell broke loose. I think I ended up replacing every main component, like water pump, fuel pump, alternator, top mounts, control arms, windscreen, window regualtors. However after 5 years the entire engine imploded and small crank bearing shattered into the engine and destroyed it. So, I paid £5200 for a new/reconditioned engine. Had it for a further year but still had issues. Almost got stranded in mid-Wales when the gear leaver cables broke, Had to drive it home in 4th over 70 miles. I ended up selling it for relative peanuts (£10k,) just to get rid of it. It was worth £15k plus all day long, but I had had enough. When I finally saw the new owner drive off in it, I had never felt relief like it before. Was one the happiest days of my life and I had gone from a Porsche fanboy to a Porsche hater in my ownership. STAY AWAY FROM THESE OVERRATED GERMANIC MONEY PITS.
Sounds like you bought a dud. They're not all bad.
@@popeye9048 How can it have been a dud when it was reasonably OK for first three years? The woman who re-built the engine - Cath Burrows a Porsche specialist - warned me off them too. She didn't drive one lets just put it that way. The thing with Porsches is people can't see beyond the badge and they get over-worshipped. OK as weekend toys and driveway ornamnents.
Definitely not great vehicles - only pleasurable if you have a new one and bills are not a problem as you have a big 6 figure income...
I've had my 987.1 since 2012. In 2022 it had a full engine rebuild by Hartech when the dreaded piston slap started at about 26,000 miles. Since then it has been completely reliable but I'm only doing about 1500 miles a year in it. The body work is in perfect condition but I live on the Isle of Wight where the winters aren't that cold. It was garaged until 2021 but since then has been living outside. It seems to be quite happy despite the saline atmosphere. Your exhaust sounds FAB!
Thank you! I’m in Filey so salty too but it’s holding up well. Least you know like me, your engine will be just fine.
I commented a while ago on a video that I was going to get one of these. I’ve had it now for nearly 6 months and love it. No real problems so far but the first service and inspection under my ownership is happening very soon so fingers crossed! Thanks for your videos they help me plan what I want to do with the car and it’s reassuring sharing the anxiety of big bills together 🤣
Nice! Glad you got one! Fabulous arnt they? Fingers crossed it’s ok. Just take it in your stride.
Glad you have the right attitude regarding “Porsche Tax”! I still struggle with it to some extent, but it’s the cost of admission into a world full of opportunities.
Your wife must be extremely patient. 😜
Great video!
P.S. - your home looks beautiful. 👍
Buy a base model, high mileage with many of the big jobs done, coolant pipes, condensers etc and with some mods new head unit , exhaust etc. Also fsh and check mot records and a lot of expense can be spared
Hi Joe, Saw you at the R7 event the other weekend. Great Channel, I've been watching a while as we have recently bought a 2007 987 Boxster S (our first Porsche - Well wife's really as I have a Golf) so your content is very relevent to us.
Nice! Should have come and said hi! Nice! Hope you enjoy the car
Love the Cayman, even the 987.1 is still a nice car, however Porsche warranty is worth every penny - it fixes your costs and removes the drama of stuff breaking that requires spending more $$$. This does move the window of what you can buy to something newer, but you can extend warranty for 15 years so even something around 2015 could be a great purchase. Having said that, I've watched you repair and replace just about everything that you can... hopefully you can enjoy this car for a while with very few bills. Great videos.
Thank you! I have always said if I come to replace I’m going newer and a warranty, as good as this has been for content it’s killed me off. 🤣 I think the 987.1 does actually look better than the new ones but with what I have spent I probably should have just got a new one in the first place 🤣
@@JoeTalksCars I would chalk it up to experience, of which you now have plenty :)
Wow I have a cayman but the 2.7 engine and over the last 3 years spent around £800, I had a coil fail, oil & filter every year and two new rear p-zero one tyres
Nice! Must have had most of the terribly expensive bits done.
You should add the qualifier that the later 981 model will likely cost far less to maintain. I have a 2015 981 GTS which has cost me far less than my VW van to maintain, the latter has been a nightmare, the Porche a dream! Do you have links for the AliExpress head unit that you got as there were no links on screen or in the description. Thanks!
You are correct with that! A newer car would have been much cheaper to run that this old thing. I do love it tho! The headunit is all in this video th-cam.com/video/xfMVqaXZVoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dgC3nMUMTXY4E8Sg
I bought a 987.2 S earlier this year for £16K and it cost me a further 8K to refresh it. Condensers, coolant pipes, suspension, oil leak etc etc. I knew going in it needed work so I was happy to do it for the spec I got. This is before I think of modifying it, but hopefully now I have the major problems rectified for next years roadtrips.
What was your oil leak
Wow! It’s mad isn’t it! Shows that if you get one that has done the miles and had the work done it’s better than a low mileage car with everything needing doing.
Where did you get your engine rebuild ?
Don’t want to tempt fate, touch wood and all that, but past 12 months: maintenance £100, road tax just under £400, insurance circa £340. The 2.7 (5 speed - tax for the 6 speed is much higher) seems to be the sweet spot (so far).
That’s great! Yeah the 2.7 is meant to be the one to have. Good power and no worries of bore score!
@@JoeTalksCarsThe £100 on maintenance this past year was just new wheel bolts, because the old ones looked a bit tatty :) …. To be fair, the previous year I paid for a big service to bring absolutely everything up to schedule and a replacement (Porsche) water pump (those seem to go at around 50k miles on all the 987.1, I think: thankfully I was expecting it and heard the signs before it got to the stage of packing in completely, so no damage).
Joe, I've lost track of how much you have spent on the car in previous years, can you give a total on maintenance/ repair costs over your entire ownership. As from previous video's I imagine the total cost will be quite high and begs the question if it is worth saving up for longer and getting a newer car with fewer costs, thank you.
It’s a lot! I will be filming this video soon based of this comment. I have to say tho, yes a newer one with warranty would have been much better!
I took my 987.1 Cayman S 07 for a major service yesterday and rear spring coil replacement around £1200 and left with the car today needing coil pack replacement, suspension arm replacing and other things before its mot is due with a fuether bill of £2500. Love for these cars is painful at times!
Wow that is a lot! Is that main dealer or indi?
@@JoeTalksCars It's an independent, they advised it would fail an MOT if I didn't get these done but had the MOT today and straight pass! Guess I'll find another garage to do the work! Keep on keeping on as love the videos
It's great video, I will say I own a 987 And I haven't spent a penny in the last 7 months , I do however do very little mileage only weekends where you are using the car dramatically so it probably makes sense.
Thank you! Happy with this little video. Love sharing the costs to see others that have more expensive or cheaper bills. Always interesting
Great vid Joe. I’ve recently sold my 987 Boxster s, one bill too many. That was the coolant pipes, they are very expensive to replace( over £2000) they have special connections so you can’t use anything other than the correct ones. Also changed the exhaust as the back boxes rusted out, another £1000. Also had issues with the control box under the passenger seat due to water getting in despite the drain pipes being clear(Wales isn’t a great place for soft tops…it rains all the time😂) Absolutely loved the car but kept it too long, as you say, after 15 years eventually all these things will need changing, plus the deadly bore score. But if you’ve got one that is up to scratch and already had the big issues sorted, they are fantastic cars to drive. Keep smiling cheers 👍 like your coffee machine by the way!
Thank you! Glad you liked the video. Coffee machine is only cheap but it’s really good! More reliable than the car 🤣 I think it’s just this age of car, most things need doing, sometimes for the second time! Bet you miss it!
I got rid of mine when the ignition switch failed on the way to a ferry one night and they charged £650-00 to fix it. Cannot put up with unreliable money pits.
Yes a camry and all the passion and excitement it brings is for you.
It’s a love affair
Interesting what you call really old. I have a 08 Lexus GS460 V8 and apart from a replacement radiator and suspension this year costing £1k it doesn't cost that much maintenance.
I do have a 1994 MR2 turbo at 436hp and it's very reliable 🤔
A lot of people nowadays are used to cars being no older than the 48 month PCP deal they got it with.
@@dw4525 I guess you're right... I don't fully blame people. I mean paying £350 odd to have a M140i or Golf R has it's appeal.
I've had my 30 year old enthusias's MR2 since 2008 had the engine built when i got bored of 300hp. It's never broken down.... Maybe I'm lucky. Also the lexus apart from the radiator i mentioned before. It's just been oil changes and scheduled services..
Old cars are a pain at times! But I’ve maybe been unlucky!
100%
Can’t stand the Golf R. Boring 4 pot and no character. Old cars may cost the money but worth it
Interesting re tax. My 3.4 S manual is registered on 3rd Feb 2006 and is £415. When was yours registered?
Not sure on the date but I think after that. It’s a 56
Most expensive car I ever bought was an M3, most unreliable car I’ve ever owned. Only bought Japanese since, and not been disappointed.
Yeah to be fair I think I’ve asked for this 🤣 should have an MX5
The owner's manual says hot drinks are not allowed in the cupholders
🤣 does it actually?
@@JoeTalksCars Yes
I’m impressed anyone has actually read an owner’s manual 😂
My plan is to pay to get it sorted, ims,bored out,etc...
Have you even done a suspension arm refresh as yet?? That’ll be next, I’ve just done it. I’ve spent c£6k this year on mine, without fuel or tax and insurance. That said it includes some modifications. I don’t expect those costs to continue as I was replacing parts that had been on the car for 16years! So theoretically that’s another 16 years worth of driving or £375 a year…not too bad
Yeah that’s how I’m hoping it will be now. Amazingly I’ve not done the arms. Fingers crossed they will do another year
Thanks for a great video, stunned by your insurance cost! I live in war zone Birmingham and my 987 Boxster was £340 last year. Sure I am older than you though. I park on my driveway. That was with saga
I got mine redone and it was down to £296🤣 cheeky insurance company sneaking the renewal up
Joe. Really. Thank you. I was seriously considering a 987.2 but you have highlighted I just dont have the capacity for it.
Folks! PSA: (Edit: if you can't get/don't want a Porsche) BUY A MAZDA! More fun, doesnt handle as well, but youll own an MX-5 for 4 years before spendjng a 5th of this!😁 I regret selling mine every day! I sold it for more than rhe purchase cost, and the ONLY large expense you will ever incur is rust and catalytic converters 😊
Thank you! I think this is just a me problem. But the Mazda MX5 suggestion is great! Love an MX5 and they are so reliable!
@@JoeTalksCars after quite a lot of Reddit searching I think it's common place. Things are great if you don't get a garage to do them. And most servicing isn't bad until something goes bang. But things can rack up quite quickly, and I would want mine as a second car. No point putting a Porsche through a 140 mile round trip commute! 🥲
One day! I think they're worth it with how they will appreciate over time! 😁 Thanks for the honesty, and the undying love for your little motor!
@@JoeTalksCars also... I've heard the numeric gear shift modification is a great one to do if you're interested in any more mods! :)
Great video thank you. That’s a shed load of money for a car that old. I own a 7 year old 718 Cayman S that doesn’t cost me anywhere near that annual cost of yours, it may not sound as good but everything else is probably better. They are all great cars though 👍
I have often thought I should have got a 718 instead. When you work out the costs it’s cheaper to have a newer one most of the time.
Welcome to Belgium, for a 3.4 1998 996 you pay €2450 yearly roadtax, around €650 insurance for a year (this is only for 3rd party when something happens), and lets say you have a cheap year with just an oil- and filterchange at around € 120 in parts/fluids, so that makes €3220 without putting a single drop of fuel in or driving it a single kilometer on the terrible roads we have here.
Wow 😯. I’ve got a Gen 2 2.9 and the tax an insurance is £426 a year (14000 miles as a daily) and tax about £35 a month. Annual service rather than Porsche intervals as it’s 2009..
It would be as cheap for me to get a Hyundai ioniq 5 n on the work scheme but feels right to stick with proper engineering and ICE while we can
Seriously? Wow! People must not have Porsches then!
You do right keeping the Porsche rather than having a work Hyundai. I mean they are great cars but you will always miss the flat 6 scream!
@@JoeTalksCars We still have Porsches. When they are oldtimer (30 years, its only +- €100 a year on roadtax). But thinks like this kill 996/997/991.1 ownership because of displacement and CO2. Then again you can choose to only have them registered for half a year and pay +- half the tax. Then keep in mind, everytime in Belgium when a car changes owner you have to also pay BIV, some sort of tax for briging a car into traffic. Also on these cars, it's painfull.
Just to correct something you said. We dont pay road tax, we pay vehicle excise duty. This is based on the CO2 output which is why, until this year, electric cars dont pay. The roads are maintained from general taxation.
True, however most understand it as road tax. I guess all the money ends up in a pot and some is funding roads.
Either way they are sub par roads
The exhaust cost is good I think, my son paid more for a stainless exhaust for his Fk2 type r
Yeah I’m happy with it. Especially as it has a valve
Can we get a lifetime cost video on it at some point? :)
Great idea. I will do that! I mean it will be crazy amounts but I guess that’s funny.
Beautiful car.
Absolutely bonkers cost to run.
Yeah a shame really
Joe, you still have a smile on your face… I’ll get my coat .
Camp vibes.
🤔
wow Joe, that sounds like an expensive 12 months!
Sure was!
You could be paying a lot more than that just driving a Vw,Kia or any other car if you put finance payements into the equation,. Which i assume you don't have
Yeah that’s a good point. No this is owned which is nice, I’ve always had mega finance
Fundamentally if you’re going to run old cars that are high ish end you need to be carrying the work out yourself or they are all money pits…
Yeah that’s true. It’s tricky as if you do the work yourself you put off future buyers.
So Joe, first let my thank you for sharring your final expences to owning a 987.
I need to say, I'm for sure a perfectionist. I have sadly to agree to these anual costs.
But these examples will survive and become veterans....... The rest will disapear.
944 are good examples, avoid low milage garage queens.
A cheap Porsche in a hand of an enthuiast, sorry folks, doesn:t exist........ . But I love my car same you do.
Kind regards, Urs, 987.2, 2011 from Switzerland
Thank you so much! True what you say about the 944. They are either immaculate or scrap.
£680 per month. Sounds like a lot to me Joe. You need to earn £1000 to come out with £680.
Yeah it’s bad isn’t it!
So many cheapskates on the comments. Cars all cars require maintenance, things wear out it is normal. Shees.
You have obviously only owned unreliable German motors.
They do unfortunately
It's an insane amount to pay yearly but if you think it's worth it then that's fine. How much has YT paid you since you started the channel?
£350 for car insurance, on a Porsche. We must be living in different worlds. Yes, I appreciate postcode etc, but even still. That is very cheap indeed.
I actually got a quoted by another company and have swapped. £320! Mental isn’t it.
Mine was £260, now £400. 6k miles fully comp.
Looking at how tidy your kitchen is, I'm guessing you dont have kids!? Great video BTW
Hi Joe, I’m loving your new style of production especially the intros of your videos.
The running cost is staggering, I had a 987.2 that was low mileage 54k, guards reds 2.9 Cayman, I drove the car weekend only yet the running cost was far too much hence I sold it. The replacement 981 Cayman with 2 years Porsche warranty is a more robustly reliable model, since May not a single niggle just an MOT failure for a small bulge in the tyre, the MOT garage was a tyre shop 😂 so I bought one Pirelli p zero N rated tyre for a whooping £250.
Why do we spend this much on our Porsches? It gets under our skin….the emotional attachment to the way it sounds, drive and snaps left/right to change direction, the speed that it can drive through a big roundabout and exit is shockingly alarming not even a full blood 911 will drive that fast on twisty roads. Then the cold starts on a winter morning with a puff of smoke 💨 and a metallic splutter before the BoxEngine sparks to life….this is not just a car, it is the Porsche lifestyle. So keep on building memories that money can never buy…Joe with the Porsche!
Nice! Love the 981! Best shape I think. Although the 987 is incredibly good I do feel I need to swap into a newer car
I was thinking of buying a Porsche 911 997 you have put be off money pit then 😂😂😂 has it put you off and would you buy the car again?
I get that. No, I would buy again, I just didn’t think about the issues or look too much at service history. This car hadn’t done the miles but hadn’t also had all the annoying and expensive things done. Imagine if I sold it now. It would be a great buy for the next person.
That’s a mortgage on a house!
Pretty much!
You can own a Lotus Elise with a Toyota engine.
Most definitely not worth it for an old underpowered vehicle ... You need a newer better performing version or something else.. luckily road tax doesn't exist in my country..
Wrong sorry 240hp is more than enough on the roads
It’s old but it’s plenty quick enough on the road! I’ve driven lots of cars 600, 700bhp+ machines and this is plenty.
@@JoeTalksCars well mine is a 2.7 and its still quick car on the back roads to be honest not much will leave it because of the balance etc.