X16 Flow Vs Surface Laptop Studio - Which is better for drawing? +brightness comparison outdoors
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2022
- The Asus Rog X16 Flow has an 1100 nit display, but does that brightness translate into outdoor use? How does it compare to the Surface Laptop Studio? Which one is better for artwork and drawing? In this video Cbutters @cbutters Tech and Justice Frangipane @Tablet Pro look at the inking and display on these two machines and demo so real world, hands on tests.
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Thanks for the video! What is the pen model at the end of it? Also quick question: i have a surface book 2 and im comfortable with how the pen perfmorms. Would you or cam say that it performa just as well? Thanks
I believe that is the official asus pen there. Sa201h or sa203h
Hi Javi, 😊 I think it’s a notch above the Surface Book 2 and a half notch or notch below the surface laptop studio. But this is based off of Cameron’s work. Not my own experience. Cameron, what’s your thought? Better than Surface Book 2 drawing quality? Less jitter in the lines?
Hi, how is the performance compared to spen on tab s8/ book2 360
@@TabletPro the SLS is definitely much better than x16, but x16 it is probably on par with surface book 2.
@@TabletPro Is there any glass or plastic screen protectors that are good with the stylus?
Thanks for the video. It was interesting to know your opinion on this computer.
Glad it was helpful!
does it make sense to consider this laptop for purchase if I use a huion pro 16 4k tablet as a second screen?
what about the last LG gram 2-1 ? could you do test comparing surface laptop and LG Gram? perfomences and stylus? :)
Hi, pls make a detailed review of note-taking on this device.
How would you and @cbutters say the drawing performance of the x16 with an ASUS pen compares to the drawing performance of the Studio with the Slim Pen? Does the Slim Pen work better than the ASUS pen on the x16, or is there yet another pen that works better with it? I'm trying to decide which laptop is better for illustration and everyday use.
On Z13, the diagonal lies by Microsoft Slim Pen 2 is jaggier than those by Asus pen.
I'm now looking to buy the 2023 X16 now that I've seen how disappointing the Surface Laptop Studio 2's screen is. I can't seem to find the HDR version, or any versions with upgraded GPUs anywhere in Canada :(
What is the hinge like on the flow? I’ve seen a lot of reviews of pre production models where it is loose and doesn’t hold its position well which is my main concern with it (other than the weight). How do you think it compares to an hp x360 in terms of quality and performance? Thanks
The hinge is fine, it doesn’t move on it’s own unless you’re swinging the laptop around.
Do you know whether the screen on either device gets hot quickly after drawing/animating on them?
Depending on which Asus X16 model you get, the miniLED model will feel warm to the touch but definitely not uncomfortably hot.
does X16 Flow comes with the pen or need to buy it separatly, because i can't find the pen sold alone anywhere in france
thanks
Unfortunately what you get inside the box depends on your region. The extra things you could get are: An Asus branded backpack, a 100W usb C PD charger (besides the 240w that comes with all x16 laptops) and the SA201H ASUS pen.
The included pen isn’t anything too special, it’s pretty heavy so I don’t use it. Any MPP 2.0 pen will work on this laptop.
Hello and thanks for your video. I want to ask you about voice to text feature ( Open voice typing by pressing the Windows logo key + H. ) How can I open Voice typing with my microsoft pen 2?? Thanks you so much.
Yes. You can use the pen tool to assign the shortcut to the Bluetooth button. I think dictation in outlook and Microsoft word is incredibly good. Better than Cortana. I have a few videos on that topic
@@TabletPro Thanks so much. I can not find the video with " how to use buttom of microsoft pen 2 to assign shortcut to (win+h funtion, voice to text ) this feature. Could you help me the name or title of the video?? Thanks so much.
Hello , I am thinking of getting the z13 , I am a university student and I don't draw I am gonna be using it as my notebook and gaming laptop , do you reccomend it if it's just for writing instead of drawing , I am gonna be using apps like Notability on a daily use for up to 10 hours
If you just write it will be fine, my Surface Pro 3 has an older pen protocol and it works totally good.
Do you recommend the Asus rog x13 for university, programming, studying from PDF, and Writing?
pretty sure an overkill
So the inking test was confusing was the X16 getting poor performance in drawing?
this gimmick 😅
If I draw on x13 with a slim pen2(from surface laptop), will there still be wobbling?
Yes. It’s a limitation of the digitizer built into the X13. The X16 looks a lot better imho but not to the same standard as Microsoft and Apple.
Would the surface pen 1 work better than the 2?
Is your app compatible with the Surface Laptop Studio and the slim pen 2? and if so, is there a video of how to set it up?
yes, it is compatible and works really well. what part are you trying to get set up? with what program?
@@TabletPro I would like to use it with 'One note for Windows 10' and Samsung Notes in the Microsoft Store.
@@matiasortizxxi it should definitely work. The Microsoft store pulled one of our apps because we had it on sale too long 🤔 hopefully the pen tool will be back on the store shortly
Which pen would you recommend getting for the Flow X16?
hard to say as i have only seen the slim pen 2 on it, my guess, as I've seen the r530 on the z13/x13 screen (assuming its the same on both) and it's pretty decent. I have a hard time believing that the x16 is tuned for the slim pen 2. Hard to justify that expense with it needing a separate charger and missing a side button. But until I actually test it or have more information it's just a guess. I tested 25 stylus in order to decide the r530 was my first choice for MOST machines. it isn't my first choice on the Pro 8 or Surface laptop studio, the slim pen 2 is. This probably just caused some confusion. R530 is $32 right now on sale, so it's a cheap risk and a great second stylus if it doesn't end up suitable. If you do test it, please let me know what you find out, email me if possible.
@Tablet Pro by any chance, have you or @cbutters had the chance to test the Asus 2.0 sa203h pen on either the Dlow Z13 or X16? I would really appreciate it if either of you could look into the performance of that pen. And also, does the r530 support tilt to the same level of the Microsoft slim pen 2?
hi, what did you end up choosing?
🙏What is better to buy for Asus X16 for drawing? slim pen 2 or asus pen 2.0 ? Help me please.
I don't recommend the slim pen 2 for anything except the 3 devices it was made for. the charging issues and price are really high, and the line quality is better on cheaper stylus. even just the regular surface pen 2017 option I would recommend before the slim pen 2. I really like that stylus, but I have it here and never pick it up to use with my Z13. I also don't recommend the asus pen 2.0, but keep in mind it was from a review I did with cbutters and it didn't perform as well as the surface pen or the r530 stylus. I have a new guide up doing a test of a handful of stylus on the z13, it should be applicable to the x16
@@TabletProcan you just name a few?
In Australia the 32GB/1TB SSD Surface is the same price as the X16 flow. but the Flow has 8 cores instead of 4 old 11th gens, and a 3070 Ti plus upgradability and a better screeen.
Is the drawing that much better on the surface?
im stuck too idk if i shoudl buy the laptop studio or the x16
@@vincenzo-1527 I ended up getting the flow x16. Wacked another 2TB drive into the second slot and haven't had any issues.
@@Sveken do you have any long-term problem? Also, can you close the screen touch then, open again?
@@egeevcil9573 I have had some weird wifi dropouts where I didn't before but only in one location. Updating the drivers have mostly solved it.
No issues with touch and closing the lid
I'm wondering the same. I could be wrong but I believe having more cores means you can't get as much power/speed out of a single core. This is where you'd want to see on aggregate of all the programs you use whether they rely more on single core power or can make use of multiple cores to run multiple tasks at once. But also I'd imagine (without checking) that the x16 just has a faster single core speed regardless?? I haven't looked. Hopefully that is helpful to consider for someone still deciding.
I do want to ask @Sveken what you think of your x16 machine so far. How is the drawing? Are you noticing any jittering when in use? What kind of programs do you use? How is the build quality of the machine? Does it seem like it'll last? Any annoying quirks? If you can give any insight it would be very helpful to us still deciding. Thank you
You got to give Microsoft credit for improving their drawing tec so much but I hope they improve it more. They still have one of the best palm rejections
Yeah I agree, It could use one more notch to hit perfection. Where it is now works for me quality wise, but maybe it's from years and years of average to poor quality that makes the current so acceptable
Hi! Thanks for the comparison. You could have done a normal note-taking test on the X16 like writing an essay in OneNote so that students like me can make the choice of buying the X16. I don't like the surface laptops at all, I'm interested in X16 because it is value for money.
same question 🙋
Did you end up going for this laptop? And if so, how is it treating you for school?
No, I've gone for X13 for 3 main reasons: it is less costlier, light weight, and has smaller form factor than that of an X16.
@@suneethdanielgouda1128 Exactly the same question! How’s the note taking for you? Looking for an all in one solution for students. Gaming and note taking. Have heard the note taking is questionable on the ASUS. I’m coming from an iPad. Would love some insight. Thanks.
Taking to consideration three factors:
- flickering screen and lack of support from manufacturer..,
- price tag,
- my experience with customer service,
There is only one winner: Asus Rog Flow X16.
I want to leave APPLE. I’m looking for an android tablet and laptop for art making purposes. Learning what a NIT is:))
Ignore the drawing he explained. First of all you shouldnt draw so slowing. This is with all device that you will get not get straight lines. If seen real drawers doing awesome jobs on their Flow X16 vs an Cintiq tablet or Huion tablet.