Swiss M70 Jacket (Loadbearing Parka) - Gear Review
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- Today I am introducing the M70 jacket of the Swiss army - a classic, cheap and reliable.
(Amazon link removed as I ended my collaboration with them)
Check the 5C setup including this jacket here: • My Backpackless 5C Gea...
FREE EBOOK DOWNLOAD ###
English:
www.filehostin...
German:
www.filehostin...
NEW MERCHANDISE AVAILABLE: ###
Visit www.redbubble.c... - all earnings go back into video projects and other educational activities offered by Rathwulven Bushcraft.
To support this channel, please subscribe, share and comment. Thank you!
FACEBOOK ###
/ rathwulvenbushcraft
INSTAGRAM ###
/ rathwulvenbushcraft
#gear #review #bushcraft
Wanna support this channel? Then please consider becoming a patreon - just visit my Patreon page here: www.patreon.com/rathwulvenbushcraft
Thank you.
DO YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION ON BUSHCRAFT, FORAGING AND ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS CHANNEL?
Consider subscribing to the Rathwulven newsletter - all for free, no obligations and you can always opt out if you do not want to receive it. Just register here:
mailchi.mp/6b4642ab28af/rathwulvenbushcraft
If you have any questions, please also feel free to drop a comment.
I bought one, I love it for it's storage capacity, and actually quite like the style of it too. Like you say, it is surprisingly heavy, but in a reassuringly sturdy way.
Thanks for your comment. True that, this is why I mainly use it for the heavier work outdoors. :-)
It's heavier with the backpack
Ich habe zwischen 1976 und 1995 diesen Kampfanzug regelmässig, tagtäglich getragen. Was er da zeigt ist nur ein Bruchteil dessen was es da eigentlich so alles gibt. Hose, Jacke, zusätzlicher Rucksack, Regen-Pelerine, das alles gehört dazu. In der Jacke konnte man die Gamelle, Feldflasche, Pelerine, 4 Magazine à jeweils 24 Schuss verstauen und vieles was man sonst so noch gebraucht hat. Vorrichtungen für einen Klapp-Spaten, sowie zwei Gewehrgranaten gehörten auch dazu. Dieser Kampfanzug war wirklich sehr vielseitig, bequem und vor allem im Herbst sehr gut was die Tarnung anbelangt.
Best feature: you have access to your fly with it buttoned up all the way
Haha true.
I have the jacket, pants and pack that are all part of the system. The Jacket is very heavily built and I like all the pockets. I have used it for paint ball and hunting. Thanks for the video
Thanks for your comment. Indeed, the jacked is a great piece of gear. Let alone the fact that material damage won't hurt anyone given the cheap price. Chapeau to the Swiss mountaineers.
Surplus gear honestly has a Trust Factor to it. Sewing and material excellence.
Thanks for the comment, Todd. I do prefer modern materials to be honest - old gear might be sturdy, but usually breathability and such suffer from that.
Mit diesem Kampfanzug habe ich den grössten Teil meiner Militärzeit von 1976 bis 1995 verbracht. Das Ding ist bequem und vielseitig nutzbar. PS: Man kann sogar damit Schlafen im Schlafsack. Die Leute die das für uns entworfen haben, haben sich dabei was gedacht und gut umgesetzt.
Danke für den Kommentar und zunächst sorry für die etwas späte Antwort - genau zu dem Zeitpunkt hatte ich den Motorradunfall (siehe Community-Postings auf dem Kanal) und komme erst jetzt zum antworten.
Ich nutze den Parka mittlerweile hauptsächlich für Arbeiten draußen und das Teil geht einfach nicht kaputt. Für die rauhen Arbeiten auf jeden Fall empfehlenswert.
Swiss made stuff is designed to last a lifetime and then some! Whether it be watches,clocks,victorinox pocket knives,etc. Everything is made with expert craftsmanship and meticulously designed with the user's need in mind.quite oppisite to the cheap mass produced sub standard stuff we get these days. I used to own one of these jackets and its perfect for bushcrafting and other outdoor activities.just bear in mind that its a bit heavy but other than that its a a winner.so get one while you can.
I agree. So far every bit of Swiss surplus Ive boughten has performed exceptionally well
The metal rings near the shoulders are for the backpack. The swiss backpack does not have straps. It attachs directly to the jacket
I have one of these jacket as well, and I must say it is awesome!!! I get tons of comments and enquires about it. Most of them are from women. Just recently I picked up three more jackets. One of them was in good shape and the other two were not so good shape. I had a tailor removed the pockets from the two jackets, and had them put on the good jacket. Now I have a awesome survival jacket that isn't too heavy to wear, and wasn't too heavy on my wallet as well.
Absolutely, could not agree more. It ain't a fashionable beauty and it certainly is an old piece of gear compared to 21st century high-end-clothing, but it still does the trick. Worth every penny. :)
Oh, and thanks for your comment!
I have this "smock" with the Rucksack, and it's a great piece of gear, it has only two downsides: the weight (empty) and the very short arms.
Look on e bay for the para knitted cuff.
Yeah I can relate to that - I mainly use it for local short trips or when doing some heavy duty work. Hasn't let me down after years.
I was wöndering about the short arms, too. Thought this might be the arms don't get in your way while working or shooting...
I still have my jacket and go to your video for inspiration to wear it exelelnt
the zip stopping where it does makes it a very nice jacket to cycle in, doesn't interfere with your legs at all
actually this might be one of the best cycling jackets- windproof, all contained, and cut just right
@@ivankrylov6270 agreed, and carries so much stuff
Never tried that tbh - but it really does offer some good wind block :)
The Swiss soldiers remember this system very well. After a rain shower the weight of that thang is multiplied by 3 !!!
Haha yeah at least.
Looking at the bright side: One does not need to buy one of those sandsack-weightjackets for workouts anymore. :-D
Hi, I recommend you get the Rucksack for the Jacke, it mounts on the Jacke directly by the Metal hardware next to the collar
Hey Flo - thanks for the recommendation, will have a look.
I own the complete Taz 57 kit and love it! It's my, " go to " for fall in the U.S.
Amazing video i bought one recent and it had a backpack high quality camo and pouches and the backpack can fit a small camping stove and i use the hook to hang my flash light and the hood works for spoting animals :)
Certainly so, it sticks around for quite some time now and still does the trick. :) Thanks for your comment, feel free to subscribe!
My father bought this for me at the thrift store because he knew I would love the camouflage pattern. Sadly I felt bad when I realized he payed $50 for it. I love the jacket and I can't wait to try and figure out what gear I should get for it. because of all the pockets I can't find a nice tactical rig to match it. I always thought the big ass pocket in the back was for some sort of armor plate to go inside for your back lol.
50 USD is quite a high price indeed. But still the jacket will last a lifetime, it's incredible what they can take.
Maybe you can combine that with the Bundeswehr Koppel-Tragegestell (the German rig)?
I know it’s late and you might already know this, but the pockets are actually what makes the combat rig. The chest pockets are for rifle magazines, three back pockets are for cooking/mess kit, front pockets are for grenades and canteen, and the arm pockets for first aid. Also the clip on the chest is meant for helmets
@@xXfestusXx04 Ah, yes I already figured out about the back pockets and chest pockets, but I was still wondering about the clip. That solves the mystery thanks :P
It's probably worh the price really. Glad they are cheaper though.
The red actually works very well in most seasons as it fades to a brown at a distance.
Yeah I had the same experience - though I also understand the reasoning of military folks for example: There are newer, more effective patterns out there.
But don't ask me, I am just a civilian. :)
Excellent review! Very interesting piece of kit. I have seen the backpack, but haven’t seen the jacket before. Good stuff!
Thanks - I saw you got yourself one too, lately I had the thumb of your review on my screen. How's it going with that? Still satisfied with the jacket?
Rathwulven Bushcraft hey! Yeah, I have been getting quite a lot of use from it. I have been wearing it more often than my gorka. The pockets are very nice for holding my EDC when out in the woods.
Great inexpensive option for those heading out to the woods. I too will be picking one of these jackets up. Thanks for the video. Very informative on an item not to many around my part of the world know much about. Take Care, Bob Also added sub to your channel
Hi Bob, thanks for passing by, for subscribing and for your comment. Glad you liked the video. :-)
years ago swiss surplus shops were still stacked with them. suddenly they were all gone and to be found on websites. grab one while you can. CP Company copied the jacket for the millemilia jacket. also stone island was inspired by it. you can combine it well for a autumn or spring outfit. the material is long lasting.
thanks for your review, swissmen did really nice job creating this parka. I use this m70 for walking my dog, eastern european sheperd in the mountans of the black sea coast, Russia. Bushcrafting is a really nice hobby or way of life, and as a dog owner i might admit we have much in common. I prefer clothes wich serves for a long and easy to wear. And its a huge ussie i would love to learn from you: a boots or shoes, trackin ones, which would not be worn out in a season like all columbia's, outventure's of adidas-terrex'es which i had before.
Thanks for your comment - yeah, those things are literally indestructible. Heavy, but sturdy.
Greetings over there, Russia is still on my bucket list of travel destinations!
@@RathwulvenBushcraft all right then, just in case you going to visit Russia, i would be glad to be your guide in here or give you piece of advice on topics of your interest
The metal rings on the shoulder is actually for the M70 rucksack, which attaches to the jacket.
Thanks for the addition, I am no Swiss citizen so I did not know at the time shooting the video. :)
@@RathwulvenBushcraft I'm not a Swiss citizen either. Just happened to find one sold with the backpack.
Still trying to figure out what the hook on the front is though...
@@huntclanhunt9697 It’s a helmet hook.
All the best 👍🏾🇬🇧
@@soggz4246 Thanks!
Dude get the matching trousers, they ride high to keep the drafts out. Plus the jacket and trousers connect - super comfy.
Thanks for the comment - might very well be, cannot tell myself as I do not own the trousers. Given the huge amount of different pieces of clothing I think I will skip them for now. Can only wear one pair at a time :`)
Ok, that's it. I'm convinced I want this even if the color scheme doesn't go all that well with the American north West.
Thank you for your reply mate, very much appreciated. :) I know, the "Alpentarn" camo pattern is a little specific, but in the high alps it works like magic. Thanks for passing by.
Yes, thank you for the video :)
EVENTHOR if you watch vids on camouflage tests it surprisingly blends in very well, apparently the red being in the mixture with the green and tan makes it even more of an autumn camo when you're far away, green and red mixed makes more brown, it's an illusion in the human eye that makes the red look like more brown clustered with the other foresty colors, it's very weird, but it surprisingly works pretty good, the Swiss definitely did their homework when they made it.
The rings up there are for the backpack. It has hooks and gets hooked up in there
Aye, thanks :)
Hi.
I’m in the UK and am really interested in one of those for our autumns here. What size is that please? And what size are you as to me, it looks a little small. I am 5’8” with a 43” chest.
All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧
the M70's sleeve is really a problem, when i was looking for a m70 , i found them either have sleeves too short or Ok sleeve but with so wide shoulder measurement.
I know what you mean in regards to the sleeves, that why I got one size above my regular one. Still fits decently at the shoulders though. I guess the design is deliberately chosen to be wide, maybe because of the gear and clothing layers supposed to be kept underneath. Just a guess...
@@RathwulvenBushcraft reasonable guess , given the fact that it's a smock .
For some reason that seems to be a very common problem with a lot of milsurp, most of them range between "sleeve only go to your elbows" to "was made for some 9' tall bodybuilder"
Why are the sleeves so short?
love this jacket! very easy to conceal guns
I can imagine - only issue though is that the camo pattern makes you stick out like a sore thumb in civil life I guess haha.
The hooks you mention at 2:07 were used for hooking on, among others things, the swiss army flashlight, which is a rectangular box , with three colored lenses. You could make a whole video just on the flashlight.
Can’t find one in America less then $50 now 😢
Yes I like it very much . Would work better than my hunting vest I use
Well I can only recommend to talk to someone in your local military surplus shop, usually those old Swiss jackets can be found anywhere around the globe.
:)
That's a cool jacket like all of the pockets where could I be buy one and support your channel? Thanks again Kyle
Hey Kyle - for which area/country specifically? Then I can provide you with some more info :-)
The straps on the shoulders are made for an integrated rucksack
Thanks for the remark, a bunch of people pointed that out already. I am no Swiss citizen so I did not know while shooting the video :-)
how do these jackets run size wise?
Larger, smaller, or true to size????
They are around $60 now
5:02 I'm pretty sure they made that so you couldn't been seen in infra red
Very Good Jacket
Indeed :)
I thinking the “mosquito net” might actually be some sort of sniper veil.
Thanks for your comment. That was already discussed and seems to be a veil indeed - at that point I looked at it from a civilian’s point of view. Thanks for adding this!
The short zip is so you can keep fastened and sit down!
Aye, thanks for adding that
Can’t get an XL (46”) here in UK 🇬🇧
Unless I pay £65 💀💀💀💀
Used to be £15 but all seem sold.
@@Yorkshiremadmick
I've got a size 56 that I would probably swap or sell
Stinky finn what is a 56? Is that a UK extra large. (46” chest)
How much?
@@Yorkshiremadmick
I would think it would be equivalent to a nato 180/112 if that helps? I'm 6 foot with 40 inch chest and it's about right for me, I paid about 20 for it a few years back so would take a score and be happy with my money back
How hot is it? I got 3 m65 field jackets and I was wondering it this was as hot or even more so
Great question - over here we are dealing with a rather timid, cold coastal climate. We rarely go above 30°C, only in the July usually.
Mine wasn't that cheap. I've got it for $50 but I've guess the value has gone up since this video
Yeah I guess you are the "victim" of both inflation and import costs if those 50 should be USD. I heard of prices towards 40 in the US before.
@@RathwulvenBushcraft just bought one for $35 from AmericanPipedream thanks for the review!
i bought a new old stock for a bit more, but you can see the camo in its original color and glory, well worth it.
Is this survival lillies husband?
Thanks for the comment. Unless she and I both traveled to Las Vegas and got so drunk we cannot remember a single thing, I fear the answer is: No. Haha.
Nice Reviw, I'll leave you a subscription
Thanks, appreciate it :)
30$ 2023
Do these pouches hold ak47 magazines well?
Honestly I don't know for sure, the pouches were initially designed for SIG 510 mags. I assume AK mags have wider dimensions.
@@RathwulvenBushcraft you think so? I haven't held a 510 magazine, but picture makes it look a little wider than an ak magazine.
@@jaksahn3370 , the mag from de sig 510 is made for 24 rounds cal. 7.5x55, i think the magazin of de aka is smaler
What size it that one
It's a 52. Not sure how that translates to regular US sizes, but I am just some 179cm (should be 5ft9)
They're rather short and wide, something to keep in mind.
@@RathwulvenBushcraft Hard to find here in Texas . But I did order one a 52 (large.) And when the xlg comes in I will order one of those . These come with the pack . Thanks
48 is medium size, i dont think they have small.
I completely understand it's a well made jacket, but I'm getting sick of the fanboys on this one saying the red is good camouflage.
Even the Swiss themselves replaced it.
Took the red right out of there.
I would say that’s what makes it such an effective fall camouflage, but for the other 3 seasons I would agree that it isn’t the best
@@cortez1030
For f*** sakes.
It sucks okay.
that's why they took the red out of it.
sucks it sucks it sucks.
Stop defending this pile of s***.
but thank you for responding to me anyway.
It really does suck this camouflage was available to us when I was a 13-year-old in droves for next to nothing.... we would play around and test the camouflage of various different patterns that were available and this one was a pile of s***.
Sorry stop saying it's good it sucks.
But one thing I will give it it's built very very well stands up to anything.
Is it to thick for hot climate?
Thanks for your comment - I assume you mean summer temperatures at some 25 Celsius or plus, right? Then the jacket is indeed too thick in my opinion. Some don't have issues as the cut is very loose, but if you're like me and you tend to overheat relatively quickly, you might want to leave it at home and just use it from autumn until the end of spring.
✨🧸✨ 👶👏
Дойчланд зольдатен,
the pattern was adopted from ww2 german pattern.
А курточка не по размеру...рукава коротковаты!!!! В России куртки М - 70 продают редко,а штаны только старые и очень рваные!
Privjet Andrej - my Russian is a bit dusty so I had to translate that. But you are right, the sleeves are indeed pretty short.
Смотря где - в Петербурге/Москве есть в разных размерах, правда цены разнятся. Могу подсказать, где сам брал, если интересно)
but if you wear glove then it might be alright.
Lmao this is a child's toy compared to the German KSK smocks
The pocket on the back of the smock alone is large enough to fit 5l of water, then on the front (excluding the arm pockets) you have 4 huge pockets that each fit 1-2l. Also behind those pockets are spots for like big maps etc. that reach all the way to your shoulders.
Well both items are anything but comparable. The BW KSK Smock is a rather modern product - the M70 is from the 60s. Hence the attractive prices at the dump.