Swiss Army M70 Jacket & Rucksack, Alpenflage Camouflage, 10C Kit, Military Surplus Bushcraft Gear
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- This is a review of the Swiss M70 jacket. It is a great piece of military surplus gear for bushcraft, outdoors, survival and hunting. The camo is called Alpenflag and works very well in the eastern woodlands. There is a large amount of storage space on the jacket, more than enough for a 10C survival kit. Adding the rucksack to the jacket increases the swiss m70 jackets impressive storage capacity. Highly recommend finding one of these coats while they are still available.
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remember wearing this jacket (and the dungarees) in the mid seventies when doing my service in the swiss army (isone). the camouflage does work very well. despite the dominant red - at least in swiss terrain. and since the swiss army is a strictly defence force only, thats all it needs. glad to see that you guys like this very old garment.
Thank you! Appreciate you sharing your experience. It works quite well here in Upstate NY. The leaves are just changing now. Perfect time for the gear. Have a good one!
Isone so you were Gren.. i was the little brother in Thun in 82, panzer gren…👍🏼
@@fredw4711 little brother? you guys are just a tough as we, who went thru isone. a different terrain and a different assignment. semper fidelis!
There should be a mesh veil built into the hood, ... originally this pattern was designed by the germans in 1945 (leibermuster camouflage) it was the first camo to have anti-IR built in, after the war the Swiss adopted and improved upon it. ... its a cool jacket, but i would advise spraying it with waterproofing as once soaking wet it takes about 3 days to dry out totally.
For those wondering why this camo is red dominant is because swiss designed them for infra red concealment
Actually that part was done by the Germans in WW2 but without all the red in there. That was added by the Swiss.
@@kaptnstrumpfus6759 Thanks for the info
Infrared refers to heat there is no color that will hide heat the reason they made it red is so that they can use it in multiple seasons for example the spring summer and fall time without having to change the pattern until the winter.
folks should point their gen 1 nv devices at this camo at night, they'll be pleasantly surprised👍
Красный цвет на растоянии кажется бурым ( грязно - коричневым)...Особености человеческого зрения...и только!🤔
The jacket was designed to contain lots of stuff.
It was also to be worn over the flak jacket.
As a static weapon, heavy mortars, we were given the 14 kg protection.
We once filled up complete load.
6 magazines with 24 rounds each, 6 HG43 hand grenades in the leg pockets, backpack, in our parlance a "gazarusa" containing two rifle grenades in the side pockets, food knapsack and digging utensil, a collapsible shovel in my case.
To the front hook we hanged our helmet.
To this all add our StG57 rifle.
We did look like lumbering idiots with all that weight which we reckoned being somewhere around 36 kgs.
At the inner Front of the Jacket placed right and left Side Fabric Bands. They are for connecting the Jacket to the genuine Dungarees to get a better Weight Distribution so the Jacket dont pull to hard down your back. Maybe thats interessting to know.
Thanks for showing!
Greetings from Germany
Just got mine, great reviews wanted one for ages, and so glad I've finally got it. As you said, it's the Swiss army knife of jackets
I’ve have a couple of them. I stated out using it for paint ball and later used it for hunting. They are tough have a lot of pockets. The camo works well especially in the fall. I like the comparison to the gorka. I had looked at the gorka for a while but wasn’t sure how it compared to military surplus that I already own.
Thanks for the video
Nice review. The Swiss military items are some of the best made on the surplus market. I have two sets (jacket, pants, and pack) that I bought a gun show for $10 each. It is a remarkably good system.
I usually still use my normal daypack with mine, and carry some of the additional items in the jacket that I would normally need a larger ruck to carry.
The negatives in my opinion are that it's pretty much all cotton, except some variants that have rubberized elbow and knee reinforcements. In the snow it's ok, but getting caught in the rain you can get really weighed down. The pattern also tends to be faded in a lot of the sets I've seen. They're not indestructible, but rips can be pretty easily repaired (and most of them on the market have some sewn up tears).
My advise, as with all surplus, is to buy it in person if you can. Keep your local army surplus in business and hand pick what you'll be taking home instead of leaving it up to an online retailer.
Excellent Video! Very Educational! After viewing this video I made up my mind to order one of these Swiss M70 Jackets and Backpack. UPDATE; The Swiss M70 with Backpack has arrived and it is everything I Hoped it would be. Thank You!
thanks, Carey! Glad to hear it. After having mine for almost a year, I still stand by it. Truly solid, great camo, and very functional.
All the best,
Jess
I see that your Lovely Lady shared this adventure with you. Now that I have re-subscribed, I look forward to reviewing earlier presentations as well as those which are current. May God bless you & yours!
I remember this alpenflage stuff was a dime a dozen here in Canada a few years ago , wish I’d have loaded up on it back then !
Great vid, thank you
Great review. The thing about Flektarn is that it accounts for red in the environment. I had no idea this jacket was engineered like this.
Very well thought out smock lot's of pockets
Right on! Great video.
SuperIain13 thanks brother
Thank you so much for reviewing the m70 field jacket. I saw it on cheaper than dirt.com and was interested but couldn't find much info. Thanks for the great content
Kevin Harrison thanks! Its a great buy. Sleeves run a little short. I opened up the cuff to lengthen mine.
cheers
Jess
I had seen the pack many times but did not know about the jacket.. pretty awesome dude.
That's awesome! I've never seen anything like that before. Pretty sweet!
Jeff Smith thanks, it was a sweet deal. wished i would have known about these awhile ago.
They made this pattern with multiple seasons in mind, the red at a distance fades into this brown that works very well with the terrain the reason they did this is so that I could work decently well in the summer and spring but also work well enough in the fall before the winter came and they would have to change uniforms for account of the snow.
Great review.. I love mine albeit heavy even without the pockets loaded ! Great that you have the original pack.. so many have been converted to be worn as a rucksack with straps now. The camo pattern works superb here in Poland too !!
Thank you! The camo pattern is really great. Surprisingly effective in a green woodland. Cheers
Neat idea on the fishing kit
not a sniper jacket, every Swiss infantry man had one like these. So do I. but I am not a Swiss soldier. ;-) The bright red turns into a brown when seen from a distance, the human eye gets tricked, neat effect. from just a few yards it's not obvious, makes you even more visible - but from 30yards and more it's one of the best camo patterns in the world for fall/winter woodland.
Yeah snipers used the TAZ57 M70 coat, but so did all Swiss troops til the 90s.
The mesh flap hidden in hood is as much a mosquito net for infantry as it is a sniper veil. The keychain-looking clip on front L is for helmets. The long tubes on pack are for propelled grenade rounds (not a standard sniping weapon) & the pocket inside is for a gun -cleaning kit.
Pretty dope w the M70 suspender pants too.
Compared to load bearing of its day it’s a step ahead and also much quieter . You can also remove the sleeves on them if you want more of a vest set up. They also take die well . I think I bought three at 15 bucks each , I’ve got load bearing for life .
The Swiss army system are dursble., the ponchos are very weather resistant.material as are their Ranger and engineer rucksacs, gators and mittens. Well built equipment.
Nice video thanks
Willis Blevins thanks Willis!
That Jacket is Cool
I can vouch for this jacket - waterproofing is your issue however - once thats figured out, Jackets' some badass kit.
Awesome !! And I love how your lady knows as much ( or more ) lol about the Jacket as well ! Cheers guys !!,:;;, Spook
thanks! Me too! :)
cheers
Jess
That’s a nice one!
thanks! of you can find one, they rock!
At first there I thought you were going to unwrap your Christmas present. Not the color you would expect for camo. I like the load distribution idea. ATB Paul
lol I see what you mean. The camo surprised me as well. Great value for the price.
cheers
Jess
Great Jacket! I just bought mine today from a thrift store for $13. I want to know what all the straps and pockets are for, but pretty much have it figured out.
I had the pants as well, but they wore out I got the set when I was 12 I'm 34 now and I have never seen anyone even using the coat. It makes a great work cost as well
PracTactical outdoors and things nice! its really cool gear. hard to believe as sweet as this is more people aren’t on to it.
Good Jacket
i liked mine but my was a really old and heavy used one and so it started falling apart at the cuffs and i hated the hood. im using british cs95 forest dpm now its pretty good one thing i miss are the back pockets.
I've had one for years, along with the bottoms. It's a bit more weathered than yours, haha. Looks like the AH puukko is doing well, I know mine is along with the 4". Trusty blades so far.
That is one badass looking jacket. You can certainly blend in among those maples when they start to turn. I have been using my new Gorka suit for about a month now and love it. One thing I noticed is that the fabric tends to get white as though it is salty or perhaps the cotton is fraying slightly. Have you experienced the same and do you have any Gorka pro tips to offer? I know you have been using your suit for a while now.
thanks! for the gorka, it really helps not to wash them. I hear they fade to white after repeated washing. I have washed mine once in 9 months. If it gets too light, take it outside and run some camo spray paint over it. It could be really cool.
A corporal sent me here🙂🇺🇸
Red and black color variations among mammals often occur when they are in deep woodland habitat.....ie wolves, panthers, etc
Good stuff sir. Thank you. I just snagged one off of eBay today. I figured it was cheap and ugly enough to be a good beater jacket.
Nice! They are pretty impressively made. Haven’t seen anything else quite like it
super
The red seems a bit loud up close, but I noticed in an earlier video that the red seems to disappear at distance. Were you wearing this pattern in another video a few weeks back with some longer shots?
yes it does indeed. i was wearing it pretty regularly in the longhouse series
Cool jacket Jess,,,it's interesting how the back pack is atach to the jacket,ok bro I see last two post your lady is with you 👌
Thanks my friend. I really like it for fall.
Katherine and I are doing good. She is taking some time off the videos. Had a lot of heavy stuff these past few months.
Big fan of "Alpenflage." It's quite 1:51 quirky.
У меня весь комплект. Любовь с первой ходки. Ни слова не понял. Английским не владею. Ролик класс. Вы чем-то похожи на сталкеров.
I ordered one as soon as I saw your videos about it. It just arrived yesterday, and I love it! But it has a couple of straps and snaps that I haven't figured out yet. Is there any sort of manual or on-line instructions for it? Even if it's not in English, I'd like to see or get a copy. Thanks!
Thats awesome! Here is a link to a blog with a really good writeup and it includes info on the jackets use. Enjoy! sharky-fourbees.blogspot.com/2011/07/m-70-swiss-alpenflage-jacket-backpacks.html?m=1
I have one of these. They are very heavy, empty. I loaded it up and went for a 2 hour hike. I got a sore back. All the weight is born by the upper back - no good. To carry the same weight in a pack with a waist belt is better, or using US 1956 web equipment. I think I will try this again wearing a single web belt only on the waist to see if I can transfer some of the weight to the hips.
The jacket is meant to clip into the pants (belt) to balance out the load. How you load the jacket is important as well.
I been searching out the Palatka but only finding $35 shipping costs and a month shipping schedule....this to be expected but do you know a better option for purchase.
Tramontane i would check amazon and ebay. I haven’t purchased any in awhile. Also, there may be some available on dedicated russian mil surp websites. Some of them have stock in US ready to ship. Armada Store and Gray Shop are two off the top of my head
Thank you sir.
I have the jacket, pack and pants I find it kind of awkward for me
i was wondering what size you got and how tall you are if you dont mind me asking. i really like alpenflage and i was gonna buy a jacket but idk if itll fit someone thats 6'3
I think mine is an XL. The sleeves are short for most. I had to cut the hemline and unroll the end of the sleeve to make it long enough. Simple enough to do. Nice jackets for the money.
I have one and I'm wondering how you adjust the load barring
The jacket is made to work with a set of pants that it fastens to. Using the pack with the waist strap cinched up helps tremendously with just the jacket
I have the camouflage on my beddings
Are there any birch trees in your woods, just wondering because you carry fire starters?
Right on. Yes, there are birch trees here and lots of pine for fat wood. Natural tinder is my first choice, but I like having options in case I need fire.
Thats very groovy setup. Not big on red, o well
James Hutto thanks, it took some getting used to, but definitely digging it. Great fall camo for my area
@@EnduranceRoom ive seen yellow camo work. I dont doubt you made red work. Ive passed through areas with yellow grass and red bush splotched around
Do you know what the size yours is? I'm looking at one. Its a 48 EU and I wear a 46 EU normally. 6'2" 155lbs. I hear the sleeves are notoriously short on tall people.
it was listed as a large. not sure of the EU sizing. The sleeves were short. I cut the elastic cuff out and cut the hem to lower the sleeve. Much better. Shoulders, everything else fits well
@Christopher Kavanaugh That makes sense.
Man, I just bought a flecktarn parka and liner too! Got one of the cotton ones which I like but most people will want Gortex. I'm about a 34"/88cm in the chest but as far as height goes a Gr.Nr. 6 is a perfect fit. Thats the size on my parka/liner. It also goes great with the Austrian mountain/paratrooper jacket. The one that isn't an M65 clone. I wore that combo in MN recently. I looked wild in the BW parka liner during my 11 hour layover at Atlanta airport.
@Christopher Kavanaugh Yeah, I've never had trouble with cotton gear but I don't get it wet. Thats why I bring a poncho.
Luckily I haven't run into that particular question. I'm sure I got some looks wearing my woodland M65 in Wyoming but I try to stay away from current issue. Going around in an M65 and a beanie you're more likely to get mistaken for a homeless vet more than anything. Mostly I try to stay with OD green. I love it and it doesn't draw weird attention.
I'll have to watch The Mouse that Roared. Never heard of Leonard Wibberly before.
Les tailles sont comme suit : 48-50-52 etc.. Je porte une taille M européenne, et pour cette veste j'ai pris une taille 52 ( 174cm, 82kg) Ce qui me permet de bien rester à l'aise et mobile avec un pull en laine de l'armée Suisse dessous. Il y a également dans la capuche, un filet pour masquer votre visage, avec le même motif Alpentarn.
Vous pouvez en trouvez ici, directement depuis notre pays (Switzerland) militarystock-store.ch/collections/surplus/products/veste-armee-suisse-m70. Vous avez gagné un abonné Suisse, chaîne youtube très intéressante ;)
@@EnduranceRoom Hey I just bought an alpenflage jacket and I'm just now realizing how short the sleeves are, could you go into more detail on how you lengthened them if you remember?
Have you got swiss army poncho as well?
I'm happy owner and i think its best poncho on market.
Have Fjallraven poncho who is good but Swiss army poncho is much better!
Nice! I have heard good things about them, but haven’t tried one yet. Do you like it for a shelter?
@@EnduranceRoom
Not for shelter but for regular poncho is irreplaceable!
would it be too hot for Florida?
yeah, I think so. I haven’t felt comfortable in it in any weather warmer than 60, maybe 65F
For sure .
Особенно приятно что твоя девушка с тобой рядом. !!!! А плащь- палатка часом не из союза?
She is the best. I really enjoy the plash palatka. We have used it many times for tent. Thanks for watching
@@EnduranceRoom знаний английского не не хватает. Но мне посчастливилось с вами познакомиться. Попытаюссь найти переводчик, или надо учить аглицкий.
@@sannyscoyts926 I am using Google Translate. All the best
And that jacket also has pants that go with it….
A plosh pulaka? Sorry, what is that? the tarp stole-mantle thing?
Jonah plash palatka
it is a russian poncho tent, roughly 6’x6’ canvas tarp that you can make into a cape, shelter, blanket, et. really good piece of old school gear.
@@EnduranceRoom Thanks for the clarification! How do you think it stacks up against American ponchos that can be converted to tarps?
Слабое место этой снаряги...ранец!Точнее крючки которыми цепляется к куртке.Крючки больно впиваются в тело...оставляя синяки и кровоподтеки.И нагруженный ранец тянет куртку вверх и назад...После такого опыта ...крючки убрал и пришил вместо них ремешки... бундесвера .Теперь в плечи ничего не втыкается и не натирает...И снимать и одевать стало гораздо проще!Теперь этот ,рюкзачек, можно одевать с другой одеждой.😊
it strikes me as odd how you carry 4 tarps on a day hike
It was just a demonstration of the jackets ability to carry gear into the woods.
@@EnduranceRoom really cool how you still read and reply to comments from old videos