No Music, No Audience, No Wonder! (Build an Audience for Your Music)
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- Some people don't get it. They think they can gain an audience for their music - with NO MUSIC! No wonder it's not working for them. Join me as I share tips for revving up your music production!
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Hey guys! Here's the link to the first video. The one with the "grim realities": th-cam.com/video/ZNZl58sqqRc/w-d-xo.html :-)
watching this video instead of making music
Lol
I can't play loud music at this time of day. So it's ok.
Learning is growth, stay inspired
Sometimes a musician who isn't making music will suffer emotionally because there's a deep down desire to do it but because they are not taking that time it will make them depressed or easily angered. Sitting down with your instrument to practice or create is often a stress relief. Also, sometimes I'll be searching for music to listen to but nothing I turn to is satisfying. The reason is, my desire in that moment to feast on something new is really my internal desire to MAKE something new. Thanks, Bill! Great video series! Can't wait for the next one, Brother!
Bill, you got me off the couch and into the studio to work on music production. Thanks for reminding me of my priorities.
"If you do that for a year's time". Here speaks a man with the perspective of many years experience. Good stuff, Bill.
For those who don’t like the background music ,The background music reminds me of Fripps “Let the power fall” . It’s appropriate for this channel .If your a fan of ambient guitar then this album is a required listen.
I totally get the point about priorities. So many people say to me "I wish I could play guitar" or "I've always wanted to learn guitar" and I ask them if they have a guitar and so often the response is a sheepish "no". I respond "Well if you REALLY want to learn guitar, I suggest the first step is to get a guitar", to me that's a no brainer.
If I could add a tip # 6... don't be a perfectionist ! I've been a perfectionist for most of my life which had it's benefits but also limited my output. 2 weeks ago I posted a TH-cam video for a music track I was working on which was basically just an experiment in composing in reverse. The short story is that this little music/video experiment exploded... I was flooded with comments, likes and new subscribers. The bottom line is that this track was simply an experiment that turned out well. Therefore tip # 6... done is better than perfect. Stop perfecting and over-analyzing everything and you'll turn out more music, more often and maybe even create an occasional experiment that explodes on your TH-cam channel !
Interesante
@@javiceres Merci Javig !
Words of wisdom Marti!
@@chordsoforion Thx Bill... I tend to learn things the hard way ! ;-)
Done > perfect
I must tattoo that all over my body xD
Making music is the easy part. Letting it go is the hard part. No 3 is hard for me. My ambient style requires layer upon layer. "When is this track finished"...... 🤔🤔🤔Also adding a worthwhile video is taking me time. All this together means I post once every two weeks. I'm happy with that. Next video "who do week make music for ?" Me..... Love this series 💜
Sounds like you have a good cadence for creating!
Such a friendly, reflected, kind and wise human being! 🙌
I am trying to get my (very young) kids involved in the hobby, that way I get their beautiful naive melodic input and more guilt free time with the git and the synth/sampler.
Great idea!!
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
I have a monthly rhythm I’ve been working to, for my more complex projects. I’m fortunate to be retired (for now), and I like to dive deep into complex recording and writing projects, so here’s my ongoing plan. I made a resolution to produce a 10-song CD/album every year until I croak or run out of ideas. I create one new ready-to-publish track every month for 10 months. It takes me a week to two weeks, working every day, to create a track. That gives me two weeks every month to find inspiration, study a new area of theory or maybe develop some chord progressions, AND to practice my instrument. With the 10 songs per year plan, I also get two months a year to goof off and study / practice. I’m on my 4th year into it and still going strong.
Excellent!!
All aspiring musician should hear your advice , as a person that's done music for over forty years I can confirm what you say is true . The most important advice is the 'Bad news' segment you did , because if you can deal with that then you probably don't love music enough , to have any great expectations .
I always spend time at the train station thinking up something and putting it down on my phone. During the weekends I always feel the urge to make some new sounds or some samples, maybe remix samples... Not all weekends I have an idea of what to do though, and not all weekends I have time to do it. But I tend to find some gaps now and then.
I'm thinking of recording more samples in my day-to-day life because I could really use more samples, but it's hard to focus on sounds you're used to ignore. Also most sounds I find cool are gone once they sounded.
That thumbnail is awesome.
I only have a few hours a week to work on music. but I am my only musical audience so I'm ok with only one song per year making the cut to my YT channel :) I say just have fun! If your to busy worrying if people will like you your worrying about the wrong thing!
Such a realist channel
Really like the video. It made me realize I already spend a decent amount of time on music but have more time I can use in a wiser way. I was practicing every day at least an hour and need to start again. I play every day but that's not the same as practicing. In the last two years I have made good progress but there's always so much to learn. Thanks for the reminder that music is really important to me.
I've put my first chord progression together in almost 20 years thanks to you. Had to relearn guitar from almost scratch. It took me at lesst 12 hrs of practice over 2 weeks just to be able to play a simple arpeggio I wanted to use! And that was ONLY picking technique practice, aside from other things. I could have done it in one take while jogging many ago lol. Never would have done it without this channel inspiring me to get in the practice, thank you.
There is still a difference between making music and making a video for that music. I'm making a lot of music, recording several tracks every week, but making videos for even the best of these tracks is an entirely different thing.
i wrote recorded , mixed and mastered a song today , when inspiration comes , it comes lol
I am a very selfish musician, I record for my own enjoyment almost exclusively. I have accessible music content, but I don't promote. I record fairly often, whenever I feel like or when I collaborate.
So to me it is incredibly interesting when I meet people who do want to 'sell' music, be a musician who plays out and record, and I make more music than they do. This advice is very similar to the advice I give:
don't find reasons to not make music
don't keep yourself from making music because you don't want to "sound bad"
you need to make music to get better at it and build a collection
FINISH YOUR PROJECTS! even if it is not that good
set moderate goals and be sure to actually achieve them
you vote with your time and efforts, and when people don't spend effective time with music I can't really take them seriously as a musician.
Got a pretty tight schedule right now with the Uni and but I'm perfectly programmed for my daily recording session for my band. It's being hard but so gratifying!!!
As you say Bill, if music is that important for us we need to make time for it
I think making simple songs is a great idea to get started. And you are right that often times if you prioritize your music higher you will find time
2:15 to be honest, I’d say it’s a mixture of doing things that are both important to you and doing things that are just in our habitual state. At the end of the day we’re all creatures of habit. This can be a good and bad thing depending on where we are in our life journey. We also have dreams but they can’t fly because of the habits that we have. They weigh us down like anchors. That’s not an excuse to not do music though, because if it is our lives then we should live it within that creative outlet. I myself have been lazy outside of doing my main source of income so I feel like this is a subject that’s deeply relatable. Your videos are inspiring and my actions going forward will be towards cultivating the music that I want to put out in the world.
chilling out to chords of orion, instead of making music :)
Don’t Fear The Reaper inspired, devising a simple Phrygian example for friends. Sometimes we go there, and I dig up forgotten skills how to play that scale. Today it’s the 12 string which led the way, and then Keyscape has ancient sounds, which help retro date the offering. Some 1978 vintage drums, a large ambience, and automated faders to randomize the background loop, which goes for about 6 minutes. Then jam. Jam all the favorite sounds, recording several takes, deciding whether to splice in or start over. The production process is something that we practice, equally to performance.
Great advice, Bill! Love what you do. I agree that the underlying principle of consistently creating music is discipline. Keep the positivity flowing!
Another fantastic set of tips! I look forward to more in the series, thanks!
I just watched this video and I realized I spend too much time robbing liquor stores and not enough time making music.😳
Enjoying this series Bill!
Wow, so simple but so true.
Wise words as always.
Wise words! Really inspiring!
Fantastic tips. Thanks!
Love your realistic advise, keep it coming, thanks
Great speech man! Thanks! You give us some inspiration.
Thank you so much for doing this series! I'm excited to see where it goes and what I'll be learning next!
That's a brilliant set of pieces of advice.
Don't wait to start making music!!
Great advise thanks for sharing 👍
...and thanks! Awesome little video.
Thanks for this series. Im trying to finish my first album and at the same time upload weekly jams on here too and these videos put some things in perspective for me and are a great help in moving on. Cant wait for the next one
Thank you for these videos, Bill. You motivate me.
Very motivational video, thank you!!
Good stuff, brother.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Super advice, very practical, realistic expectations, Thanks!
Good stuff.
I watched a lot of your review videos again and ordered up a Source Audio Nemesis. It comes tomorrow so hopefully I can make good sounds right away. Thank you, you are the man!
Well done, Bill. SMART goals are particularly important (Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Relevant, Time-Based) for achieving whatever it is you want to achieve. Showing up each week like you recommend hits them all. Pumped for the rest of this series 🙌
This is great video!
Thank you once again
Some real shit bra!
Thanks Bill ! I play 4-5 days a week, always improvising jazz and other stuff, and I think one of the better ways of get followers is 1: upload music to youtube with specific gear, pedal, etc, and 2: in facebook groups, a lot of people will listen to your music and maybe will search for more info about you, soundcloud etc GOOD LUCK to all !
Hey Bill I'm driving from California to New Mexico listening to your album "Visions" thanks for making awesome ambient music!
Matt - awesome and thanks so much! It always bring me happiness to hear that someone else is enjoying the music. I have a soft spot in my heart for "Vision". It's the first album I recorded after starting the YT channel!
@@chordsoforion so cool. Thanks for inspiring me to pick up my guitar and make music again! I wanna release a album this year and you've helped alot!
Such great advice, Bill!
Create everyday.
I put out a demo of music this April! 4 songs of instrumental demos! This summer, however, has brought a lot on my plate with work and University (last year of college), but I'm hoping to keep upping my production and recording methods over the next two years, then I'll release my first full-length.
I like this series.
Very Much.
I find the best inspiration for songwriting is a muse, especially a lost love
I have released solo music in 2014, 2016 and 2017. Now two years has already passed with no output (except for my band's music which is a group effort).
I'm currently in a dull situation where I always have time for music but doesn't have the inspiration to make one. Each time I pick up the guitar or a keyboard, I feel like I'm just repeating myself which puts me in a depressed state. When I force myself to finish something, it would only last a few moments before it being sent to the recycle bin.
Everyday I am literally skimming the entire web for new music and have gone to the extreme possibilities ranging from Avant-garde to harsh noise but nothing seems to spark my enthusiasm. No interesting musical/artsy events happening around town either.
Now I am building myself a bowed string instrument using random found objects, and have a few other gears waiting to be delivered. Hoping these would solve my problem.
That being said, I would like to know other methods to find inspiration when you're stuck in a rut.
"Music is my life, but I don't have any time for it." is so me these days.
3 marriages 2 children never stoped . do something every day. it my not be playing. never practice I jam or I learn new songs or I write new songs .start with learn 2 songs a week that 104 a year writing has to hit me I can’t just do it . I need inspiration this week I jammed with the looper on odd meter 5/4 7/8 sometimes songs come out of that
You're right, even if most of if it is pretty obvious to anyone half serious, but as you said yourself, no one cares either way. These days it's easier to get people to watch videos with charismatic motivational speakers like yourself than to actually listen to music. Your videos make the audience feel good about themselves by thinking they'll apply your wisdom first thing in the morning. Notice the key difference, your music is about you/author, no one cares about you. But motivational videos are about everyone in the audience, and they care about themselves hence they watch. It's the self centered society we have built.
Again, I admire your positive attitude, but the reality doesn't care.
Funny thing is in similar motivational video about making money from music today, the advice was to build a strong online presence, print and sell t-shirts, booklets, and various marketing strategies. That speaker was also positive as if delivering good news. It's a bit like smiling doctor saying you have cancer. Sorry to sound so negative, but I'm afraid it's just realistic.
To sum it up, you're supposed to spend years investing your time, money and energy into something no one cares about. You're supposed to be good in:
- your instrument and singing (and I mean really good, like one in generation, genius good. Most fail here making the rest of the list irrelevant)
- songwriting & lyrics (both need to sound fresh/original)
- music recording and production (ok, you can pay others to help here)
- video production & online/offline promotion (you could hire someone I guess)
- set up website, online shops and be business savvy in general (or rich).
- young, charismatic and good looking
- and if you're in a band then the problem multiplies with each member.
This path is unsustainable road to self destruction unless you've inherited a fortune, and besides is also futile unless you're god-like talent in most of the above.
Can you imagine Cobain happily chatting with his fans to expand his online presence, while designing, printing and selling t-shirts and booklets ? He'd shoot himself well before Nevermind.
It has become an impossible game, and that's why there is barely any good music in this millennium. And again, no one cares except us nostalgic old farts.
Time to face the music!!!
Are you talking about making music or 'shooting videos and all that good stuff' (i.e. making a vlog about your playing)? These are very different things. What should be the priority?
Great videos Bill! Really enjoy your work! I was looking for the third video you mentioned. Is there a link for that? All the best to you and your family!
Good grief! After all this time, I forgot to add that link: th-cam.com/video/WhYj4urzfR0/w-d-xo.html
Also, here's a link to the entire series: th-cam.com/play/PLseB5HzFJKVwe_tisP-H7O_4J-uqNqfhs.html
@@chordsoforion Thanks very much, all the best to you and your family!
I never had issues with making music. It's part of who I am. Most my life was drumming. I picked up writing years back too. Recently learning guitar. It's been great. I find it inconceivable how a musician would NOT make music? Hmmm...I guess I'm lucky. I'm not awesome. I'm just happy with the music i write. That and floyd are all I listen too. Uploading my progress over last year on guitar and before that my atmo keyboards a few years.
Do you do VO at all? your voice is very radio friendly! Great channel btw!
The only VO I do is here! :-) Thanks!!
Hey Man, I love writing ambient music soo much and Id love to record but unfortunately am a student and I cannot afford getting pedals or expensive boss Gt pedals. All I have is the BossMe80, and my tiny idcore 10 amp. I really wish I cnt even afford buying an audio interface, what do I do?
Man - you have a BOSS ME80! Just plug it into your computer via the USB port and start recording If you need recording software, you can download Audacity or get the trial edition of Reaper. I believe that is still unlimited.
Someone is hitting the bong right now instead of making music.
Thank you. Thanks for the logical answer to a question I keep wrestling with: start making music now. I will never be satisfied with my skill so f*** it. Record that G C D chord progression song and rock it.
Some good stuff from Paul Rudd here. I will attempt to watch less chords of orion and make time for my own music
Wait a minute - Paul Rudd is young enough to be my baby brother. Really - BABY brother.
Hi nice video i like your videos so much but i have a quiestion,wat pedals ambien delay reverb you recomend me to buy t start?
I think he has made videos about at least half a dozen that are all "ambient monsters".....
@@victoreijkhout6146 ty
My papá, he's fucking
Right .
My music is very complicated and requires as much time thinking about it as making it
Bill takes the "factory" approach to making music. He gets his ebow and an echo pedal and plays a few chords. BINGO! Track finished! There's nothing wrong with that, but to pretend that we should all be churning out music on a daily or weekly basis is just destructive! I'm sixty years old, and I have about sixty albums under my belt, and no-one ever had to tell me to "make time for my music" or "practice your instrument". If you ain't doing those things, are you sure you're even a musician?
Bill, are you a lefty (but play as a righty)?
Not that it matters really, but just curious.
My 13 year old daughter is left handed and is just starting to learn to play guitar. I just bought her a left handed Gretch.
Yes indeed - I am left handed and play "righty". I prefer my dominant hand to be on the fretboard, as I consider it more complex.
Very cool!
Great videos, man, I watch them as soon as I see you’ve put them up.
right when I first started guitar it occurred to me that all "right hand" guitars were actually "left hand" guitars. Your daughter may want to try a regular guitar since, like bill said, the fret hand is the busy hand. I, being naturally right handed, have improved the left hand skill immensely from left hand fretting AND it has helped my left hand piano playing skills a ton. Inversely. if a guitar player wants a better left hand: learn boogie-woogie piano. You will develop the left hand of the gods.
jj rusy Great advice! It’s funny how, in a way, us right handed guitar players are really playing as if we’re left-handed.
Btw: Ringo Starr is a lefty, but plays his drums as a righty. David Bowie: left-handed, but played as a right-handed player.
So it seems that Bill is in good company!
I was born lefty, mom made me a righty by taking everything I picked up out of my left hand and put it in my right. My left hand on the fretboard instantly had lots of dexterity when I first started playing guitar.
TH-cam subscription in my 20's: Ryan Bruce. TH-cam subscription in my 30's: Chords of Orion
one thing I recommend is to NOT!!!!! buy to MANY synths, samples, and plugins, you'll find yourself going through stuff and designing stuff and not actually creating music. Kinda happened to me. Limit your synths, samples and plugins. VERY IMPORTANT.
Absolutely!!
Completely agree with this. I've fallen foul of this for so long. Suddenly I'm 62 and mostly make guitar music now and only occasionally use keyboards
wait, U mean I gotsta make music 1st ??
my wife hate my music, she says " I suck " !!
She actually loves you
Informative content, but background music is making me nauseous. Not trying to be insulting, but the background sounds are repetitive and without structure, much like the movement of waves while sitting on a boat. (Seasick)
That's because it is ambient guitar music. That's what I do here. I hope you will stick around for the rest of the series to learn how an old fart (me) has gained a sizable audience for his nauseating music. If I can do it - anyone can! I promise - I will keep the level of the music a little lower on part 3. 😜
I LOOOOOOOOVE the background music. He is an Ambient Guitarist...duhhhhhhh
Edit: Now I am seeing that this is actually an Ambient Guitar Channel!!!!!!!!