How I Make Money Playing Ambient Guitar Music 🎸
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- How I make money playing ambient guitar music - that's the question and that's what this video is about! Hope this provides useful information for those of you who are interested in building a revenue stream from your musical endeavors.
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Are you a part time musician? What are some ways that you generate income? I'd love to hear about your experiences!
Neh, my music made me about 10 bucks of income for last 18 years. One time my band played on wedding and the other time I played guitar on the street, that's all. =)
And it would be hard to count how much did I spend on it...
In addition to every topic you describe (youtube, content aggregation, bandcamp, major online stores) I've been lucky enough to produce a couple of film scores. I work a day gig in IT but I never did quite as much building of my channel as some of the names such as yourself. I'd need to devote more time to it (a video per week would be extremely aggressive - I would need to come up with a new and compelling idea per week and that's not always do-able) and perhaps that would remove the fun aspect. My wife also uses our home studio to record voiceovers and she probably makes more money doing that than I ever will doing music (she's got the perfect voice for that type of activity) unless I get more mass exposure.
I am an Attendant Caretaker for a company, I don't make any money (yet) from my music. I will be launching a tube channel here soon doing pedal videos, inspired by knobs, Stefan Fast, Henning Pauly and of course you good Sir!!
I'm generating more revenue from designing Tshirts and other products on Redbubble, than I do from my music (Epitaph Road) - but then I have never properly chased it either. But the revenue streams from Spotify (0.001) per stream, are truly pitiful. As usual, the gate keepers make all the money. Thank you Bill for sharing and I love all your reviews and your music. I bought the TC Triple Delay based on your review of it!
Chords Of Orion you should definitely check out KOBALT. A couple of my friends with a decent online following, got some really good revenue through them.
Reminds me of the Herb Albert quote: "How do you make a million dollars playing jazz? Start with three million dollars." 😂 But seriously, great tips and content, thanks.
You’ve got an excellent voice to do audio books, voice-overs and bed time stories
Just saying
Thnx 4 the inspiration
Have a jolly new year
I really appreciate your humble demeanor and reviews
I work in the Ops department at CD Baby in good ol' Portland, and I was stoked to hear a shout-out! A lot of people don't realize that many musicians do indeed work full-time jobs. I am in bands who play locally and regionally, I've had music used in independent film and commercials, and I work my full workweek every week. We do it because we love it, and then sometimes it's nice if we get something in return. I love your videos!
Awesome that you work at CD Baby! I love the company and the services. Been using you all since 2008!
NoiseFeedMusic we are actually hiring right now. Just google CD Baby careers. We only hire music lovers haha. Good luck!
@NoiseFeedMusic Hey wait a minute! I am also a music lover and musician who is versed in C# and SQL!
Awesome, man! Glad to see someone use their talent and passion to make income! Take care!
Bill, it’s really nice of you to share this info with us that watch you on TH-cam as I’m sure quite a few of your listeners have taken an interest as to how they could generate revenue in a similar way. Here’s wishing you continued success!
I love the sound of the breeze and stream in the background!
Thank you for your honesty and of course your videos !
Thank you for this! I'm getting going on making a living this way too, and your videos have been a huge inspiration.
Keep Doing what you Love Bill!!!! I can’t tell you how much you have been an inspiration to me!!! I am so grateful for your channel!!!! Keep Rockin Brotha!!!!
Thank you for all that you do! I really enjoy your videos and have been sharing them with my like-minded friends.
Thank you for this honest information.
Thank you for the video!!!
Happy New Year!
Thanks for that useful information.
Thanks for your input👍
Sweet thanks for sharing this. It's a good motivator!
Thanks a lot for sharing your wisdom, as usual, Bill.
You’re a good man. Thank you for sharing. You are appreciated.
Thank you for not posting some clickbait get-rich-quick scheme that people try to hustle online, and thank you for your positivity and honesty.
Thanks! That was helpful and inspiring.
Big fan! Great video Bill, you are a very inspiring artist!
Thank you so much for sharing!
Thanks Bill! Always nice to get a peek into the man behind the (ambient) curtain.
Congratulations. Thank you for the inspiration!
Lovely!
Great video.... really appreciate it..
I greatly appreciate you sharing this info. Wonderful channel you have my friend.
Thanks for the honest video, im in the same boat working full time and gigging the weekends but need to focus on my original music. Its just hard to say no to gigs :/! Great videos love the channel
what a fantastic video!
We certainly have added to your streaming revenue. We have your songs on repeat for the baby's sleep playlist.
Congrats and thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks, Bill! I always appreciate your content!
I'm a part time musician, with several day jobs! To allow time for my musical activities (which is one fairly busy band @ 3-4 gigs per month plus rehearsals), I've found that, for me, it has worked well to have a 1/2 time job of 20 hrs per week, and the remaining time of my work week is filled with a couple other flexibly scheduled projects - carpentry in my case. This allows me to shuffle things around to accommodate my band's activities and gig schedule.
As a musician, my meager music income is from regular gigging. Gigging is time consuming, but super fun and rewarding, and I really enjoy playing with my band mates. We are now getting gigs that are mostly paid, but it is often a small amount split evenly between the 4 of us in the band. So, small bars and club gigs around here (Ithaca, NY) pay anywhere from $0 to $100 per band member. Plus, we are usually treated well by the venue with food and drink, possible tips. But, yeah, on average, it's not very much at all, considering how much time goes into it. I'd say on average gigs, I come away with my personal share of $25-50 on average, plus a meal/drinks. Reinvest some of that into your gear, instrument, gas, etc., and poof, it's mostly gone. BUT I LOVE TO DO IT!!!! It's obviously not about the money. We are working on an album currently, but I see the album mostly as a tool to get us bigger and better gigs, and to share our music to build our fan base. Thus far, in this band, and the others I've been involved with, making self-produced and self-recorded albums is NOT a way to make money, but a means to play out more.
My dream is that with a little more music and band income, I might be able to eliminate one of my 3 or 4 day jobs, and have more time to devote to music, to create the content, and to get better as a musician and as a band.
"3 or 4 day jobs" Indeed, I feel your pain.
Thanks Bill, as a retired business man its great to hear your story.
Glad you liked the vid!
keep on uploading! i like your musik.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you, Thank you,Thank you. Thank you ,Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
Within the first 15 seconds you mentioned Vermont I gave a thumbs up. I went to school there and love the place! Peace.
Oh man. I want to go back!
Thanks for the Info
Thank you, really nice, transparent breakdown. Resourcefulness is your friend! I am trying to explain the meaning of this to some music students I have...the way the industry has transformed into a real multiple revenue system that one must continuously evolve with.
I read articles from time to time (usually from record industry musicians or execs) talking about how bad things are for musicians. But as a small independent, I think there is a lot of opportunity to pursue one's art in a way that generates a sustainable income.
This is great thanks. New subscriber!
You could add another revenue stream: sync licensing. Plenty of film a TV shows could use ambient tracks.
Funny I was thinking the exact same thing sir..... you definitely have the gear Obsession that we all have
Very cool!
Thank you
Thanks for the videos. I bought the Tc Electronics Triple Delay off the back of your demo. Just in case they're watching and it helps build the relationship.
Great Video
I feel like you're a good guy. So I subscribed. Enjoy the music.
Thanks very much!!
Great Job thanks
Maybe sometime you can talk a Bit about yourself. Something about your musically journey, day time job etc :)
Yeah, I am very curious what he does for a living
There are several Q&A vids here on the channel where I discuss my background. I am sure I will do more in the future. In the meantime, IT consultant is my daytime gig. :-)
Bill, you are alright. If you have any children, they are lucky to have a father like you. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year.
Wish you the best and thanks for your efforts.
Thanks so much Bryan! Hope you and yours have a great New Years celebration!
CD Baby is great. Thanks for the insights.
I've got COO on a couple playlists...so hear ya many times a week😎
Havent been on this channel in a while.... the dollar sign caught my attention
Loved the Gizmotron videos....Cool stuff like that would be great for people that do meditation!Maybe streaming sounds for dentists offices for relaxation ........just my thoughts...Thanks for the info
Nobody hikes with a Boss GT1000. Any true outdoorsman carries a Helix.
LOL
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You mean fractal audio axe fxii 😎🎸
I travel with my GT-100
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lol
thank you for sharing
You are welcome!
"Vermont? You call that a mountain?" -guy from NW MT.
OK, OK - they are cute hills. ;-)
Great video for information! Really have wondered how folks who make music make a little cash on the side.
Glad you found it useful!
Welcome to New England, Bill!
Thanks! It was really great!!!
Tnks sir Davos!
Cool to hear how you make some equipment cash 🙏
So bummed I dropped my Ebow in the studio last week and the switch broke 😫. Well it lasted 1 year and I did 37 E bow sessions on here. I love the E Bow. Just wish they would have made that switch a little stronger. No fixing it once it breaks and the Ebow is something you want to put down and pickup for certain parts of songs. I’ll buy another one soon but it will be a few until then I’ll just be checking out chords of Orion e bow show 😄👊🏻
Oh man! That is a bummer! I agree - it would be great if the Ebow was a little more sturdy.
If you ever play Nashville, im totally there!
My expectations for gaining money from writing blackgaze music is approx. -$2,600. Lets see how deep this hole goes :) Love ur content Bill
First of all mate, you are the reason I got into (attempting to) play ambient guitar. I found you and your videos inspiring. I'm not very good at it but I try. I had an ebow plus for a Christmas present and boy am I finding it difficult at the moment, I've only used it twice so far.
Through your videos I also had a Mooer Ocean Machine and a Mooer GE200 so I have more than adequate equipment to produce ambient guitar although I was missing a volume pedal but as the GE200 was also a Christmas present from my missus along with the ebow, I'm pretty sure that the GE200 can be used as a volume pedal am I right?
Actually it was my missus who also bought me the Ocean Machine for a Christmas present last year 😆
Next on the list items I'd like is a Mel 9 but I can't afford one at the moment, maybe if I haven't got one by next Christmas Missus Claus might bring me one 😉
As well as getting inspiration from you, Orion in my favourite constellation. I'm a big amateur astronomer & astrophotographer and have spent many many hours observing and photographing the M42 & M43 Great Orion Nebulae, as well as the Horsehead Nebula in Orion so how could I not be interested in Chords of Orion when I first came across your channel ?
Lastly, it's a bit nosey & cheeky of people to ask you to explain your earnings & income. I think my answer would be 'mind yer own business' or something a little less polite depending on how I was feeling. 😆
I know that it probably makes no difference to youtube revenue but normally I skip ads on videos but on your videos I leave them running in case it earns you extra money.
I find it bizarre that anyone would ask you about your income. I’d never think to pry like that. But thank you for making this and all your wonderful videos.
Hey Bill, do you use CD Baby Pro or Cd Baby standard? I've heard some artists like using the standard version of Cd Baby for distribution and using companies like Song Trust for publishing royalties. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Hi Bill can you please do a video on beard maintenance tips? Thank you :)
thank you Ser Davos
followed on spotify!
Thank you!
That was a very helpful video. I always wonder if certain TH-camrs are able to make any money from what they do, and in what specific ways.
Glad you liked the vid!
Excellent video and great channel! I just started my channel but am already seeing money from Amazon affiliate links.
Thanks for sharing what income sources you have.
I was hoping maybe you found the Philosophers Stone out there in the woods...the secret turning lead into gold? :). Rock on man!
Still looking for that one! :-)
read that book yesterday lmao it was amazing
Hey I live in Vermont in the forest on the side of a mountain!
I am jealous!! :-)
You know, I definitely assumed the contemporary christian aspect from that last video
I dont mean for it to be disrespectful, i definitely love your knowledge and love your guitar playing
I myself am a huge pedal guy, looooove the reverb/delay stuff
Also , i wanted to say, you are welcome in kansas USA, next time you are around id love to bring you around, whatever show etc
I only mention the contemporary christian stuff is because there is always a bunch of reverb and delay and one... usually one, really happy chord in the mix of every song.. and its like... damnit.... hahahaha
I myself am athiest, but i love good music, and i can always tell a great musician regardless of beliefs, anyways, i wish you the best, keep making your stuff, come to kansas sometime, and play some shows with us heathens haha
No worries. I guess by "contemporary christian" you are referring to what people call "worship guitar"? Where there are entire bands playing a worship service more like a concert? I personally don't play it, or attend a church that is involved in that kind of stuff. When I play guitar in church, it's acoustic guitar and we are singing those old crusty rusty hymns. Anyway - the background for the music on this channel comes from my old school prog-rock, classical and jazz influences. And we always played bars and clubs. :-)
If I am every in Kansas, will let you know!!
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You talked about the online income but do you do any live gigs? I did an ambient synth/guitar show a couple of years ago at a music venue near me and walked away with some spending money. Had lots of fun/stress putting it on and do intend to do it again, although I'm concentrating on finishing a dedicated music studio first.
I am not focused on live music at this point. Too many other activities surrounding the music. But maybe in the future. You never know. :-)
Nice one Bill good info just need to get people to look my stuff on here LOL LOL ...
Took a peek at your channel. Looks like you have been uploading for 5 months or so? I just looked back in my stats, and I had something like 40 subscribers at that point on my channel, so don't give up!
Thanks Bill . No i will not give up i love make music and thanks for taking a peek thats very kind .... And when i finish my track Orion's Belt ft you ( as i do not play the guitar LOL) i will let you no .......
I've always struggled to make money as a musician. I've been a janitor for over 2 years. I've been working since I was 16, I'm 27 now.
I hear ya. I was a janitor for many years when my band was trying to make a full time go of it.
It's funny how downloading has become 'old school' now.
True - I still purchase hi-res downloads of key album and artists. I like knowing that I have the full fidelity WAV files.
Yes me too, I've downloaded the WAV files of most of your albums.
It's still relevant for DJs. And in genres like footwork and juke, many listeners are also producers and DJs that like to buy HQ audio files. My preferred way to listen to music is to mix it.
I don't know how to download anything. Just click on TH-cam and listen. It's too easy and an endless variety to listen to.
And I STILL buy CDs, especially for albums I've sampled-and _really_ enjoyed-on TH-cam or elsewhere. The audio on CDs is simply SO much better, so like to invest, _support the artist_ , and then enjoy having something tangible in my hands. Read the liner notes and credits, appreciate the artwork..... Yup. Hopelessly old school and proud of it. √√√
I understand the Amazon thing generating revenue. I never buy from Amazon they are big enough and have enough money and power. I like to support the smaller businesses. You find the same products at the same prices with free delivery anywhere on the internet. So anyway that's just me. I still like this channel and visit to help me decide what equipment I would like to buy. I just won't be buying it from Amazon.
Thanx for the tips ! :)! Also, i am sure you get this alot....! but you look exactly like Davos from a GOT....
Glad you liked the video, and yes, Davos = Bill happens a lot!
My first thought after watching this video was 'I wonder what he does for a day job!' As always, great video.
He's a dentist in Vermont.
Walter Smetak really?
No. If you read earlier comments Bill says he’s an IT consultant.
Getting hall of fame 2 soon
Nice!
What? You packed that big switchboard on the trail? Man, that's some hardcore geekdom. I just thought that you packed a guitar too. Serious glamping LOL!
Ha! Actually, my car has an AC outlet, so I just pack a 100 foot extension cord, and set up off the side of a fire road. I actually ended up with 2 performances last week - one with the GT-1000, and one where I recorded direct dry guitar to a Zoom H4N, and then added effects later. I like the way both turned out and am looking forward to sharing them!
As a green mountain boy... fond of both ambient guitar and backroads... i'd be so stoked to stumble upon you getting psychedelic in the forest!
Zoom effects: "No soup for you!" 😁
Streaming = VERY, very little income revenue for most
Does anyone know what major pop artists make from streaming? Like, what does Katy Perry or Taylor Swift make a year from streaming alone?
its soooo weird how young this guy acts
ASCAP's newsletter a few months back said they reached a new agreement with TH-cam that upped the cut creators get...to a whopping $0.007-ish. That is exponentially higher than what those turds at Spotify pay. You aren't getting rich streaming, though. Gotta sell.
Sell what? That's the question. Hardly anyone buys CDs, and less people are downloading than in prior years. Gotta be creative and have multiple revenue streams.
@@chordsoforion Merch. Digital content. I've madenlike $12 from my music on streaming services. Ha. Like you it's very part-time for me also, but I can already see how much time and effort it will take to actually make a living doing DIY music.
Love your videos. What's your day job?
I am an IT consultant.
I don't use Amazon anymore
You're the ambient guitar Les Stroud.
Do you master your own albums?
Yes indeed.
@@chordsoforion that would be another subject to cover on some videos! Thanks!
Thanks for the suggestion. I have alluded to mastering on a couple of vids, but I could do a more detailed walk through.
I would be interested in that as well!
Video starts at 0:45
I still don't understand the whole monetized thing. Is it only available when you reach 10 thousand view on your video? I am trying but it's slow.
The requirements for the TH-cam Partner Program are all documented here: support.google.com/youtube/answer/72851 Once you meet the requirements, you can apply. Not as easy as it used to be. After my second channel met the requirements, it took 8 months for them to approve it for monetization.
@@chordsoforion Oh wow, thank you so much for the info. It will be a journey. Also I was curious what kind of recording software or devices you use? Very helpful thank you.
99.9% of musicians don't make money playing music and neither do golfers. They just enjoy doing it. But it is good that youtube is opening up a stream for those who put forth the effort and time to earn a few bucks. I guess one needs video software to make good videos but one can make crummy ones with just a phone. The best way I know of to make money from music is to open a guitar shop and go into business. Just my observation in life.
Hi, quite interesting informations. I have no expierence in releasing music and I didn‘t know that streaming services really pay the musicians. At this moment I‘m listenig to your music via apple music. Is it really true that aplple payes you for that particular stream? How little the amount might be? I pay 10€ per month to apple. Is it really true that apple pays you back a very very very very very little part of this money directly to you?
If so, I would be quite astonished ;-)
Cheers
Yes - Apple Music does indeed pay a royalty for every stream. It is usually less than one US penny. But for musicians that are popular, that can add up to significant money.
isn't everybody using (utube) add blockers by now. ?
Apparently not. In addition, almost half of TH-cam's traffic comes from mobile, its mobile app in particular. No ad blockers there. Also, I forgot to mention this on the video, but about 10% of my YT $$ comes from TH-cam Premium subscribers. No ads in the equation there.