FINALLY A SOLUTION !!!! Honda Accord Starter Grind MAYBE?? 2013- 2017 V6 Models
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- Hoping to take care of the starter grinder on startup for the 2013 Honda Accord V6.
Known issue with 2013-2017 Accord V6 redesigned starter, (Bad starter part number 31200-5G0-A02). Honda's supposed fix (TSB 16-002), is yet another redesigned starter, (Redesign of the redesign starter part number 31200-5G0-A04 ), plus a one time only one hole rotation of the flywheel.
In the TSB it states, if replacing the starter with the redesign of the redesign and rotating flywheel, doesn't work. The next course of action to replace the torque converter. Which it not cheap. REALLY HONDA!!!!!!! Come on.
After some research, I am going with a starter from a previous generation V6 starter could be the real solution. So I picked up a previous generation starter (31200-R70-A51) on eBay for like $70.
**I DID NOT ROTATE THE FLYWHEEL WITH THIS REPLACEMENT"
*REMEMBER FOR SAFETY REASONS, WORK ON THE VEHICLE ONLY WHEN VEHICLE IS COLD*
Parts & tools I used:
Starter- Honda 31200-R70-A51
Gasket- Honda 31270-RJA-A01
Ratchet- 1/4" & 3/8"
Sockets- 10mm, 12mm, & 14mm
Different Length Extensions
Torque Wrench 33 ft/lb (2- Starter bolts)
Dremel Tool - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thanks for this video. I've been dealing with this issue for years. Did the swap a few days ago and no grinding so far.
Glad the video helped. Yea, we have had it, installed since October of 2023. So over 8 months and over 10,000 miles, on it.
That's awesome
Just did this on my 2013 accord....irs been over 2 weeks and no problems thus far... wow thanks so much for the video... amazing. Your the bomb!!!!!
Hey glad it helped. I've had this starter in my Accord since about mid October.Thanks for watching, make sure to hit the like and subscribe button.
Did the swap and car starts perfectly! Thanks for the suggestion on using an older model starter and the how to video. Cheers.
No issues what so ever, been 4 and half months.
Glad you found this video helpful.
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I have had this issue for 4 years tried the bulletin to no avail put the older starter in and boom problem fixed thank you for the info
Glad it helped and worked. Yea so far we are a few thousand miles in , not a single issue. Hopefully, this truly is the solution.
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This looks like a much beefier starter with external solenoid and the gears look like they have more bite to them!
Very good how-to. Going to try this on my 2015. Found a used Acura TL starter (31200-R70-A51) on eBay for about $75. Hoping this works out because I don't want to get rid of the car.
Hey thanks for checking out the video. Yea, same idea I had, didn't want to get rid of the car.
Also need a better solution than a completely new starter, that might not work.
One of those, spend $60-$70 to see if it's a better solution than Honda way.
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I have been dealing with this for over a year or so. Even bought a new starter and torque converter from Honda. Worked for a couple of months and started doing it again. Just bought a used STARTER from ebay part number Honda 31200-R70-A51 and put on my 2015 Honda Accord and so far so good no starter grind!!! I hope it stays that way. Thanks!!!!
Did you buy your part from eBay or eBay parts cause i have the same issues but I don’t want to get the wrong part or scammed and also am finding them for over 160+
can´t wait for the result... I did the rotation and the refurbished the original... the problem came back in one week
So far I have had the Honda 31200-R70-A51 installed for almost 2 months and over 3,500 miles, no issues at all.
@@gilbosdiy thank you, I appreciate the information you provide us
Which refurbished unit did you use? I used the i
428000- 5380 Denso unit, same model number as @gilbosdiy and so far everything seems fine.
refurbished my own old starter... it didn´t work... @@ns5337
@@ns5337 I had refurbished the original one that came with my car (bad starter part number 31200-5G0-A02), but it didn´t work out. I´ve decided to buy Honda's redesigned starter - part number 31200-5G0-A04, mentioned at TSB 16-002 - and carefully detailed in the description of the video. It has been working so far, 3 months later.
Im a hodna tech. the reason u spin the flywheel one more moibting bolt is to make sure the flex plate and starter are within spec.
You are absolutely correct, I know the TSB call for rotating flywheel when replacing the 002 starter with a 004.
The reason I didn't is because I am not replacing with a 004.
Just in case using the previous generation starter doesn't work.
Then I can try and replace with a 004 starter and STILL do the flywheel rotation as per the TSB. As you know, the TSB states if the 004 starter with flywheel rotation doesn't work.
The next option is to only replace the torque converter. Don 't think I want to have to go that route.
So what is the reason the starter does not engage in the first place?
KOOL
Good vdi on how to.. Looks pretty easy. Hopefully I won't have to deal with it, but only time will tell. I have a 2016 with only 77,000kms on it so it's relatively new, so I shouldnt expect any problems at this point. How many miles on your Honda and I presume it has the push button start.?
Thanks again for the vid.
My Accord is a 2013 V6, with 190,000 miles (approx 305,000 km). Yes, push button start.
We've had this issue very sporadically since about 100,000 miles (dealer replaced the starter for free at 105,000, 2/18).
Recently it started to happen more often. More than the first go around. Hopefully going with a previous generation starter, will do away with this issue and last longer than 100,000 miles. I rather spend $70 instead of $450.
Thanks for watching, as maintenance requires, I will put more videos up. Hopefully this will help you save a few hundred bucks.
@@gilbosdiy If and when the time should come, I'll certainly opt for this option..depending on availability of parts here...
I'm curious to know, after a couple months, has the problem returned? That's what happens to my 2015 Accord V6. After the repair, the problem seems to be fixed for a few weeks, then it comes back gradually and gets worse. My first Honda - I thought I was buying quality, but now this problem with no factory recall - I realize I should have bought a Toyota instead.
No, not at all, so far going with the previous generation starter ( I.e. external solenoid) has been just fine. No issues what so ever. The car is driven daily as my wife uses the vehicle drop off and pick up my kid from school. Multiple starts during car pool line.
Incredible that they could have just used the starters they already knew worked@@gilbosdiy
My 2016 Honda accord just started doing the “Grinding” noise. I’m looking at 2012 Honda Accord V6 starters, would that be a good option to go with ?
As long as the part number matches you should be fine, (31200-R70-A51). Then, the condition of the starter would be another thing to look at.
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I have honda accord2015 v6 . My car start grinding now sometimes 2-3 times in day when i start car , some time after some days . So if i change only starter this can be fix ? Or i have to change some more things?
For me, I installed the previous generation starter in my 2013 accord V6 since October and I haven't had any issue with it so far.
i have a 2013 honda accord v6 as well. i have replaced the starter in 2019 and rotated the flywheel. problem was still there, in 2021 i changed the starter again, did not do anything to the flywheel. i want to try your method, can you post the ebay listing?
Thanks for watching. All the parts that I used is listed in the description below the video.
Hope it helps. If you have any more questions, just ask and I'll try and help.
@@gilbosdiy So I got my 428000- 5380 Denso unit yesterday and installed it. So far 5/5 successful starts. I did have to cut that bracket off as well. And I did not rotate the flex plate because I did it in 2019 when I did the starter. Thank you for this video. I hope this fixes the problem.
@@ns5337 Awesome, glad it helped. Yea so far still good on the one I installed in our 2013 Accord. Granted it's only been about 4500 miles.
I can’t find one anywhere for less than 100. You found on eBay? What is the difference between the 428000-5380 starter and the 31200-r70-a51?
Yes, I got it on Ebay.
No different , just part maker, one is Denso and other is Honda
Denso 428000-5380
Honda 31200-R70-A51
I'm having a hard time figuring out what part of the "bracket?" I have the grind off for it to fit.
At about the 2:10 mark of the video I remove a bolt that held the LOWER radiator hose (plastic piece, and thin sheet metal shaped piece). It is what the bolt is mounted to.
If you have the two starters side by side current generation and previous generation. You can see the PREVIOUS generation starter, has the solenoid on the exterior of the starter. If you attempted to install the previous generation starter. That solenoid, will hit the bracket, and prevent you from installing the starter.
Hope this helps. If you have anymore question(s), just ask and I'll try and help. Thanks again for watching
@@gilbosdiy Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense now. Super helpful! Thank you!
@@gilbosdiy one more question, is that gasket you bought necessary or can we reuse the gasket from the defective starter?
@@Shahroze_ I bought a new one, since it was only $10-$11 bucks from the dealer. To me not worth the headache reusing, just in case. You can choose to do what is best for you.
Please link the site you bought the starter from.
I picked the starter up off Ebay. The starter number is Honda 31200-R70-A51.
Do you need to buy the new gasket as well?
Just got this done today works so far but we’ll see!
So if I have a 2014 I need to buy a 13 year model starter?
No, 2014 and 2103 use the same starter. You need a starter from a previous generation V6 vehicle (i.e. before 2012). If you look at the description below the video, I have a part number of the starter listed that will work with the V6 Accord.
Hope this helps. If you have anymore question(s) just ask.
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Thank you so much for the info. Greatly appreciated sir.
lol… just hack of bits and pieces.. That’s what I want to hear from my mechanic… lol
Has this method held up ?
Thanks for watching, So far so good, only been a few weeks since I installed.
how is it riding so far?
All good, since the October 2023 install. Thanks for watching.
Alright adding it to my weekend list to hopefully solve the issue!