Bishop Robert Barron I really enjoy your content, your excellency! I’m, personally, a Russian Orthodox and would be very interested in watching you debate an orthodox priest or discuss the theological differences between Orthodoxy and Catholicism.
VegaDog, Please, follow Bishop Barron's teachings. You will learn, you will feel, you will think. Your soul will grow, until you seem to suddenly feel your moment comes. Please join your brothers & sisters in the most beautiful, richly deep Catholic Faith -> will lead you rightly + always relevant, as is God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, will lead you when you heart & spirit are ready. Hold tightly to Jesus. Your life will be changed forever. ✝️💕
Bishop Barron I am eternally grateful to you for bringing me back to the faith .. a debt I’ll never be able to pay.. God bless you and your work .. keeping fighting the good fight !
Dear Bishop Barron, I am a Catholic theoretical physicist and I love all the work you do. Thank you for bringing our faith's rich intellectual tradition back into the spotlight. As you say, I believe this is much needed these days, for those who are willing to listen and learn. This discussion of arianism and how the Nicene creed relates to it was super interesting, thank you!
God bless you! We need you in the fight. Most young people who disaffiliate from the Church claim that their number one reason for doing so is the incompatibility of science and religion. Help us with this.
@@BishopBarron When I read Henry Adams or Adoulus Huxley it becomes clear that no scientific discovery led them away from the church, but that Darwin could be used to do away with obligation. In Huxley’s case, he said he was an advocate of Darwin because Christianity interfered with his preferred sex life. .
What's the difference between a Catholic theoritical physicist and an Eastern Orthodox theoritical physicist? I always figured since the Scientific Revolution, physics was rather nonsectarian. What's different? Does gravity effect Protestants differently than Catholics?
@@markstuber4731 The Catholic theoretical physicist comes up with the Big Bang theory, whereas the Eastern Orthodox theoretical physicist does more applied work such as pupinization.
@@markstuber4731 The physics is the same, of course. I just wanted to point out that being a theoretical physicist and being a Catholic are not mutually exclusive, as I am both.
Oh yes. I feel like most parents of kids getting ccd preparation need cocatechesis because some Ig them neglect the faith and some of the kids r prepared to disregard regardless the emphasis needed
@@daithimcbuan5235 That's what they want us to believe, but I don't think the Vatican II heretics are saved. The Catholic Church has been very clear about this for almost 2,000 years.
Thank you Bishop for your thoughts and Brandon for this topic. I m from India and we Catholics in India don't fully understand the humanity and divinity of our Lord. Praying to the Holy Spirit to help our cathechetics
I have had my issues with Bishop Barron but when he teaches he's excellent. Ever in my seventies I needed to hear this talk to yet again understand what I believe and why.
*THANK YOU, Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU, Bishop Barron and Brandon Vogt* for presenting the hugely relevant, much needed topic on the Word On Fire Show☆
Bishop I need your prayers, I have two adopted children, because of abuse I divorced (after 35 yrs of marriage)and got an annulment from the father of my 6 children. We are struggling financially. We keep moving from place to place, we have nothing left $$..I moved to another country and I just don't know where the Lord want me to raise my two children. (the others are all married and doing well) My 14 yr old daughter is severely autistic and developmentally disabled. I am 60 yrs old and was diagnosed with R.A. I try to be faithful to the Lord. I want HIM to send me a sign of where we should be living. A place where the kids can be happy. Also, i get almost nothing child support. Please pray for me Bishop Barron, you are like my hero Bishop Fulton Sheen and I need prayers to know where I should settle with my two children. God Bless You!
Marcela Maria, I am so saddened to hear of your struggles. I can empathize, I have lived a similar road. What God is showing me is that His peace is not dependant on where we live, or who supports us, but true peace only comes as we plunge into his providence and allow Him to provide for us while taking steps towards what is good as it is revealed. You have a heavy load, my friend and you cannot do this alone. I pray that God surround you with a few precious souls who will walk with you and live in His truth with you. The decision you had to make is not always understood and so you may fell alone, but know that God is your defender and He knows everything that is and was. In HIM you can trust. I also pray that you get support for your daughter. It takes more than us mamas to raise a child, it takes a healthy, helpful village. You are precious, Marcela and your girls will be your motivation to keep taking one step at a time towards the Light of love and peace and truth. Hold fast to the scriptures and read them often. let them be a constant sign and strength for you. May you hear the voice of the Shepherd and follow Him in faith. He will provide all you need, no worrying! Praying abundance over you my new friend.
That first statement that Bishop made is why one of my teachers, one of Bishop's students said, "people have no idea what they are protesting," in the Creed and in Christian theology.
Apparently, catholics relied too much on catholics schools. I say dump the schools. Instead spend catholic money with good catholic paid instructions after or before mass and with bible camps for kids.
The programs are offered, how about committed adults and desire to follow through? Do parents even have conversations with their children? Do they ask them: what did you learn today? HMMM 🤔... let me see after CCD I can hear: hurry up, get in the car the football game is about to start, and I still need to stop picking up some beers and get some snacks! Or, leeeet’s go: “you have dance class in a bit” “we have to go across town for your soccer practice!” .... CCD is an hour once a week OCT-MAY approximately ... Bible studies are also about an hour every week. I am sure that every Archdiocese has programs throughout, do we know what they are?
Pretty discouraging. I went to Catholic school fo 16 years in the 60’s and 70’s. In the early years they did a pretty good job but as we got older forget it. Religious classes became all about comparative religions and all sorts of fringe topics. No one ever talked about Aquinas and the proofs of God’s existence; no one ever took out humane vitae and examine what it says and why. What can be done about it. Tough road ahead.
@@tomgreene2282 ....Ireland is right now at this time in the world NOT the best example of RCC FAITH to anyone, sorry but Plain Truth !!! . Deus Volt !👍 Ave Maria IMMACULATE !👏🌷🌷🌷
@@tomgreene2282 I am Irish (and a practicing Catholic) and took a Theology program at Maynooth College about three years ago. I very much agree with you, it was an excellent program. Watching this superb video of Bishop Barron nailing it (once again) brought me right back to our class on Systematic Theology and the priest lecturer who gave the course making this very same argument. It was the first time I heard the term 'Homoousious'. Both my lecturer and @BishopBarron made this very important distinction so clear that it honestly enflames heart. I also agree with @raulbaquero that Irish Catholics generally are extremely poorly catechised (myself included) and our country certainly cannot be held up as an example sadly, but there are many grass roots shooting up thank God. Please pray for the Irish people and those who govern us. God bless! (Sorry for the long comment!)
This is so powerful, the description of the Nicene Creed. We neeeed more of this in the church. We need more and more and more of this!!! God bless you Bishop Barron.
MY immediate idea! I have to refresh my knowledge as I ´ve just found I am ashamingly stupid regarding the first councils, I thought I knew what arianism is, but got it completely wrong. Reason? My laziness to study more the most important thing in my life.
Me too. It is complex because of all the details attached. It was beautifully explained but my concentration could not handle the volume of facts presented. Like you, I will definitely hear this again.
I grew up in the 1950/60. In South Africa As a catholic child however only attending a Catholic school in my first few years of schooling. Then going to a government school were general Christian Bible studies were followed. Although as a family we still went to mass ever Sunday. I was married in the Catholic Church to a non Catholic. And yes slowly lost my faith. Because of lack of true knowledge of my faith. However I never lost my true belief in a true God and praying the Rosary from time to time. Thankfully i am now able to reconnect with my faith and am attending Mass on You Tube everyday and have a great hunger for knowledge. Word on Fire found me. Bishop Barren is an amazing teacher. The faith I believe has been greatly lost because the church has not done truely enough of educating the teachers of the faith. My own children eventually refused to go to catechism because they said it was so boring. Yet Bishop Barron shows how interesting the history is of our faith and I think that to a large extent is what's missing. We go to mass and believe that's enough to keep us faithful. I am so excited to be part of Word on Fire and reading my Bible with greater understanding. God Bless you Bishop Barron.
It’s January 12, 2021 and I received my copy of Word on Fire Bible Gospels a few days ago! It is truly beautifully made!!! It exceeded my expectations! I was very pleasantly surprised to also recieve such a beautiful journal as a complimentary gift! Thank you Bishop Baron for proclaiming the gospel through your ministry! I also like listening to Brandon’s questions for you to answer to help us understand more clearly our catholic faith. God bless you in all you do and to all the lives you touch through Holy Trinity.
When i was a young boy in my religion classes, my teacher made it so clear the importance of the hypostatic union. I didnt understand then, but now i see just how important and True it is.
Thanks for giving us a few words on the difference between being "created" (or "made") and being "begotten"! That's probably what trips most people up. Here's the relevant segment of the Nicene Creed, for those who don't have it memorized: "I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God Begotten by His Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God, Begotten, not made Being of one substance with the Father By whom all things are made" (Apologies if the Lutheran version is different than the Catholic)
You are right on Bishop Barron. I was born in 1955 so came up in the church at the same time as you did. I have been preaching this for years. It affected all areas of my life. I am so very thankful for all the information, studies, WOF, intelligent debate, books for laity, The Institute and Journal is amazing. Scott Hahn and all that he has brought to every aspect of the Church. We are living in crazy times. Keep Preaching!!! God Bless you and your entire WOF team.
Lack of Catholic truth teaching such as the nature of the Holy Trinity, and the 'softening' of the truth, for some reasons, have created these mistaken beliefs among Catholics. Even I initially believed that the Holy Communion only has temporal God's spirit in it, and that only if you believe, I think the teachers said the consecrated Bread and Wine are Body and Blood of Christ, but never explained the transubstantiation and the presence of Jesus full in Body, Soul, and Divinity.
Ex Muslim here in my beginnings. I was a bit confused in nature of trinity. I tried to get solved mistery following the heart and somehow I got realization that praying to Jesus is literally praying to God. God to explain himself to us is getting three personalities which have their roles and are consequences of fallen angels rebellion but they are ultimately One. I pray that God forgive us all if we r confused in our limited minds. I am afraid of those topics because wrong realization can maybe lead to losing of eternal life.😢
@@thane816 Even in the orthodox church there is chaos in the teachings - it depends on which orthodox church it is. When there is no Pope to bring order. The same chaos is in Protestant churches
thank you Bishop Barron you make it clear in our time, may a thousand more like you be there in the days to come to guide and clear the doubts of the future generation, may God Almighty continue to inspire you and guide you with the true wisdom amen. a Catholic from Nagalim.
I have never laughed so hard in your youtube ministry, Bishop Barron. Keep it up your creative style with Brandon Vogt. Now I know that the light casts speculations on your hair. God bless Bishop Barron, I am a permanent fan of yours. My faith is lit up because of your Word on Fire. Thank you very much.
Its funny how so many Catholics nowadays like to turn into armchair theologians and criticize and condemn Pope Francis, yet there's a very real chance they don't even believe in the eucharist. So much for their holiness and expertise. That tendency doesn't just exist among Catholics either.
of course you could also say that the Pope should be more concerned with the lack of theological discernment of his flock and stop focusing on environmentalism and south american style revolutionary tendencies
We should hold OUR Church accountable. It's not unjust judgment to call out sin. We all sin. Does Pope Francis call out sin among our Church leaders? Ask the German Bishops.
@@TimothyFitch I see you've got me all figured out. Of course you could try to point out the errors of my opinion instead of a personal attack but what is the fun in that right?
What I get from this exchange: God doesn’t do love, He is Love. Being consubstantial to God, Jesus, therefore, is Love; not a portion of, nor an expression of. Hence, He is Love both as a substantive and a verb at the same time and in perfection. Levis Shalom
Greetings brothers. I am a faithful Christian (i do not consider myself an Arianist) and really admire and thank you for your work, but doesn't Paul say in Colossians 1:15 that Jesus is the primogenit of all creation? And didn't Jesus himself said: the Father greater that I is? And wasn't His power granted by The Father? Isn't that The Father created pre-incarnated Jesus to share in His God-Trinity and make Him The Creator of all matter? I would appreciate your enlightening in this regard. Thanks and may God bless your path.
I could not agree more about the failure of how we are teaching about our Catholic faith. My oldest daughter went through 9 years of CCD and was always complaining about how the teachers weren’t teaching anything. There were basic questions she could not answer because they were never talked about in class. In her 7th grade year, her teacher spent all his time telling them why they needed to grow up to vote Republican (further cementing my idea that Americans have turned politics into their religion). My daughter was very turned off by all this, but fortunately, she did decide to go through confirmation. Now that I have found out I can homeschool her brothers in non-sacrament years, that is what I am going to do, and hopefully also fill in the gaps for my daughter, too. Your videos will also be a great help!
I have always had trouble with putting trinitarian views somewhere along the line of monotheistic religions Isn't the Ibrahimic tradition all about believing in one god that isn't a component of parts? I would be thankful if you would explain in simplest terms what is the place of the trinity in monotheistic theology in one of your videos.
As a descendent of a Confederate veteran! Do appreciate you qualifying of you comments on Gettysburg! Thank you Bishop! I have a lot of respect for you! You are spot on!
I am Egyptian from Muslim background. And I have been randomly browsing for days Abt history...one thing led to another..them stumbled on history on Copts...then found Aryanism...I liked the idea of logos is god..but that's because I already knew about stoicism..and what it means to say logos ..the divine order in nature.. anyway opened that video..and here I am having another wakening...I really didn't know anything Abt christians...always wondered how can ppl believe that a human can be god...is it symbolic of combining the divinity within us as humans..but then why they say father..and son...your video is very enlightening ...it just shows that if you want to understand sthg that looks weird...go to the ppl who have the knowledge ..otherwise you'll stay igborant and judgemental forcever. Thank you for ur amazing explanations and thank you genuinely for explaining things with so much passion and objectivity and devotion while the same time remaining very reasonable and sensical. I usually avoid preachers when I want to know Abt any religion..they speak beautifully...they have persuasive skills but eventually u reflect on what they said and you know you've been deceived. I am so happy to find you and so eager to actually learn Abt Christianity from you. Thank you And apologies for language mistakes and long message .
And while you're at it remember to buy all the books, merchandise and other useless bs. Plus the patron subscription of course. it's the only thing keeping this business afloat.. that and faith. Seriously tho, You're not that far off from the truth, Sara. you're clearly showing the willingness to change, the willingness to repent. Just try not get all caught up in all of these newly-discovered notions, don't be a slave to charlatans, don't let them get ahold of your mind and heart or you'll end just where you started. Jesus came to preach liberty to the captives so you don't have to be a prisoner anymore, of your lust, of your sins, of others... Try to dig deeper, search everywhere, don't leave any stone unturned. You were born fatherless? You got abused at one point perhaps? Your family mistreat you maybe? I'm sorry for what you have gone through but here is the good news, The Bible is the Good News! All of that doesn't matter, You'll always have your Eternal, Heavenly Father by your side. God loves you, Sarah. So, please don't lose your soul. “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled." "طُوبَى لِلْمَسَاكِينِ بِالرُّوحِ، لأَنَّ لَهُمْ مَلَكُوتَ السَّمَاوَاتِ" "طُوبَى لِلْجِيَاعِ وَالْعِطَاشِ إِلَى الْبِرِّ، لأَنَّهُمْ يُشْبَعُونَ" Matthew 5 | متى 5 God bless you, I'll be praying for you
Keep on searching and praying ask the Lord to show you who Jesus is and study the Resurrection. Christianity stands and falls on this. (I disagree with Bishop Barron, on this Scripture tell us what's needed for salvation). Ask Jesus to show you who he is. Research the origins of Islam, there are many academics and channels doing this on YT too. God bless.
I had no idea about our recuting of the Nicean creed as literally combating the Arian heresy. Incredible! As a Baptist, I haven't been as steeped in church history as our Catholic brothers. Really cool. Loved the show!
good on you brother! I encourage you n the Lord Yeshua to study what the Catholic church teaches-including scripture and the early church fathers. When the church put the bible together they did it under the same Holy Spirit that continues to guide their successors and us their descendants in the spirit-even through all our foibles and failures as humans. Beautiful Universal church of all colours and cultural expressions, still standing as "the pillar and ground of truth." 1 Tim 3:15
I am curious to know what the survey defines as a Catholic: is it a person who has been baptized in the Catholic faith, or is it a practicing Catholic, because if you use the former, the data is going to be skewed to something that is not completely Catholic. However, if you use the latter, you are going to get a number of Catholics who are more in line with the faith.
@Mystical MediaHi mystical Media, I never said that they weren't, all I am saying is that if we define Catholic as all who are baptized ( including those who Identify as catholic and those who do not) or those who are practicing Catholic ( which i think may mostly imply those who Identify as Catholic) you are going to get different results. Which ones are the right results, I know do not.
@Trump supporter interesting idea. If there was a person who believes in everything that the Church teaches and diligently tries to live a life of Catholic holiness, but voted for someone who was, say, a prolife democratic candidate, would he or she still not be Catholic? I am not necessarily saying that what I am proposing is right or wrong, I am just curious what your thoughts are.
@Trump supporter The especial thing about the papacy is that even if the Pope is bad God will not allow him to twist the faith. At this point is history is so developed that it is almost impossible that someone twist the faith. The pope should be strengthening force of unity for the Unity that the Church is. I don't agree with some political actions of the pope, but the church is not about the pope, it is Christ centric and the papacy is the visible sign of the invisible Center of Unity (The whole Christ as an organism).
@Trump supporter really are you catholic? DO not mix politics with catholic faith, John 18:36: “Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” Because if you did it,(mix politics ) answer me, Is fair as trumpist (Not republican), be again the nature, be again immigrants (legal or illegal) be racist. Peace for you and may God enlight you.
@Mystical Media However non practicing Catholics can be pro choice, pro homosexual marriage, pro sex change, pro in vitro, etc. So we must separate the grain from the chaff. If a survey of Catholics include questions about abortion or homosexual marriage and they answer they are in agreement with those issues the results will show a given percent of Catholics are with controversial issues. That doesn't reflect the beliefs of a true practicing Catholics. All Catholics should not be lumped together. I have Catholic family that is so pro choice it makes me I'll. And anyone who supports the deaths of the unborn are not permitted communion. What we should do is pray for those non practicing/fallen away Catholics like Biden, Pelosi and all others to see the light of the word of God.
This topic of the Arian controversy has been on my mind for sometime since an agnostic friend of mine challenged me on why orthodox Christians made such a big stink about defining the divinity of Christ leading up to/after the Council of Nicaea. You did a good job addressing all the scholarship related to this topic that should allow me to address it more confidently in the future. (Although based on my other research you could have expanded a little more on the decision by the council to use the nonbiblical homo uzios term, which was apparently controversial at the time.) Nevertheless, thank you again, Bishop!
I'm tired of debating with my family. They falsely interpret the Bible and purport that Jesus comes second to God. I tried to tell them to be aware of the heresy of Arianism and they basically insulted me. It's a, shame that some my fellow Catholics know so little on the basis of their faith
I find it hard to believe that God being a Trinity of Persons is an unappealing doctrine. The fact that God is an eternal communion of self-giving Love in himself should be the most beautiful fact ever! Mysterious yes, but beautiful!
Interesting. My perspective as an agnostic who is investigating Christianity: First, I suspect that the popular opinion manifested in the survey doesn’t suggest a failure of the church (even the bishop states that they hammer the Nicene Creed constantly) as much as it points to the inherent ambiguity of the Trinity and the fact that it’s quite difficult to read it in scripture without presupposing it from theology. If it were obvious, it wouldn’t have taken 3 centuries to achieve “consensus” on the nature if Christ and another century to articulate a eternally coequal Trinity. Second, I strongly disagree that the Arian Christology in diminishes, let alone destroys Christianity. As fair as the bishop may have been to the Arian position, I don’t think Arius (or other anti-Trinitarians) would agree that they think of Jesus as “just a wise teacher”, but rather that he is unique in all of history as the divinely anointed, exclusively authorized and empowered human messiah, the only Son of God.
Thank you Bishop Baron. You are a man of God I perceive. I’m not a catholic, but born and brought up in Lutheran faith. We do regularly recite the Nicene Creed in our church. And I strongly believe in what I recite. And I am not at all a Christian if Jesus Christ is not God. And I don’t consider those people as Christians who deny that Jesus is not God. I really appreciate your strong views on the divinity of Lord Jesus Christ.
I too have been startled about these surveys, although I can relate to the fact that our Catechism fell off a cliff in the 70's. Seems to me the Bishops had a laissez-faire attitude towards many aspects of Church life, because of this while I am not a Trad, I do sympathize with them on certain issues. This makes me realize that our reunion with the east is so important, they still focus on the language intently.
BIBLICAL PROOF THAT THE TRINITY DOCTRINE IS FALSE! I’m a former Baptist, but for 25 years I’ve been a Sabbath Keeping, non-denominational Believer. The TRINITY is false because the Bible clearly teaches that the Most High God CREATED, MADE, and BEGOT His Son! Christ was the first Creation of His Father. Everything else was created through & by Christ! (Colossians 1:15-19). But all things reproduce after their own kind... INCLUDING GOD! So, the "begotten" SON IS 100% DEITY & SUPREME OVER ALL OTHER CREATIONS! The Scriptures below confirm that the Trinity is error because Yeshua is neither equal nor co-eternal with His Father. The first 3 Holy Scriptures prove that The Messiah WAS CREATED. The last 3 prove that the Savior is not equal to His Father, but is greater than all except His Father. The Trinity doctrine seems to teach IDOLATRY. And for sure, most churches that teach IDOLATRY also teach to break another eternal Commandment… THEY SPIT UPON THE SACRED 7TH DAY SABBATH, and obey the change to the Commandments made by pagan Rome (Council of Laodicea, 364 AD, Canon 29). (HEBREWS 1:4) Being MADE so much better than the angels, as HE hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. (And before anyone claims that this truth of Christ “BEING MADE BETTER THAN ANGELS” is referring to His earthly birth, Hebrews 2:9 refutes that connection. When the Lamb of God walked the earth, the Bible confirms He was MADE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS!) (REVELATION 3:14) These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD. COLOSSIANS 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE. JOHN 14: 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I. (This clear truth by the Son of God should be enough to settle this issue. But heresies are tough to kill.) 1 Corinthians 11: 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. (In the minds of the undeceived, “HEAD OF” DOES NOT MEAN EQUAL!) 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that HE IS EXCEPTED, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, THEN SHALL THE SON ALSO HIMSELF BE SUBJECT UNTO HIM that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. The die-hard Trinitarians will bring up 1 John 5:7-9 There are two things to consider. You believe that being One means they are equal. It does not. Let's look at John 17:21... 👉🏿👉🏿👉🏿"That they all MAY BE ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”👈👈👈 (Being described as ONE does not make us gods!) I know Trinitarians use 1 John 5:7-9 as a cornerstone, but it's a weak one. Also, there is no record of that statement in any of the Greek Manuscripts prior to the 1400s. Some believe it was added to support Trinitarianism. I'm not adopting this belief, but this is an old controversy and well-documented online. Just Google it. Matthew 4: 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. @@sjappiyah4071
I was always taught that Christ was fully human as well as divine…something only God, the Trinity, can fully understand. Our finite minds cannot fully understand.
I've learned to never trust any polls. Before I ever allow a poll in any conversation or discussion I ask who was polled, who administered this poll, when it was taken and where. If someone can't give me this information, I don't include this unsubstantiated data in my analysis. So, starting there, you should at least have some patience with low information Catholics who might have been deceived by the first question, and they really do not know any better for the distinction of the word 'created'. Most even low information Catholics would double back if you asked them the followup question if they believed Christ was begotten or created. I also would question the very much repeated stat that 60%+ Catholics don't believe in the true presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. If you were to take that survey to every mass attending Catholic TODAY, it would be much better. Let's run with that number now, please.
With the questions mentioned in the video, it is no wonder that so many Catholics agreed, because for them Jesus is all this and so much more. And if you hear these questions over the phone, for example, and cannot look back on the written word, you can easily answer two completely contradicting questions with "agreement". And let's not forget the use of the word in everyday language, where "created" is easily equated with "begotten",especially when it comes to new life.
Dear brother Hugo Peace & Good !, This is worse than what you think....we are living in the center of a ver ugly - spiritualy WAR - between the GOOD & the evil...what ever is GOOD is bad, what ever is bad is GOOD ! . regarding the poll, it was made by the US RCC to the - catholics who go to the Holy Mass on Sundays - ...ONLY !!! therefore, it hurt even more... Remeber when Satan tempted Jesus, what he did ?, he went to the desert 40 days of prayer, fasting and PENANCE so, if we are Christ followers, that is exactly what we'd do today like we did in the past !, Don't be ....AFFRAID !! .😃. " Sursum Corda !! " " Maranatha ! " Ave Maria IMMACULATE !👏👍😅 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
@@raulbaquero5081 It is more like the days when The Lord sent Jonah to Nineveh, to a people who didn't know their right hand from their left, and there are many cattle here as well. Because of these times, when virtue and vice are turned upside down, we should petition for mercy and illumination, because there are lies everywhere. We have rebellions even within the Church who tear their clothes like the hypocrites, who are bashful at the altar because of their own shame, but who would not suffer shame on behalf of The Church and bare with these trials during her passion. In the desert, Satan's temptation was the offer to concede; to cease his opposition there and then, if only God would admit he had failed. That the Almighty was wrong in creating man. But just as Jesus would not suffer any shortcut to glory or even for peace, so must we endure his wretched machinations. For if it were not for his infernal interference, there would have been peace here long ago. An age of conscientiousness and soul searching, rather than one of confusion and dissatisfaction. Even those within the Church, who presume themselves the elite, have strayed in their presumption. They believe holiness is for separation from, rather than for the sanctification of, the immature. They have lost their way looking on high for what is found hidden in the orphan and dispossessed. This is a lesson for us all and though I'm angry enough to die, I'll sit on the hill and preserve the vine from the worm instead. I am ready.
Atheist here, just for a headsup. But this is ment as a serious question. I do not get how acceptance of Ariansim would have been the end of Christianity? This just seems like an assumption after the fact. It's not too hard to imagine an alternative universe were ariansim became orthodoxy ( i mean it was the more popular standpoint several times during the 4th century, even after Nicea), arguing that accepting the trinity would have been the end of Christianity "because it would have been an interesting worldview, but in the end just another Polytheist religion". If I understood corectly Arius argued that Jesus was created by god because he thought that having three equal seperate beings in one was polytheism. Which from a layman standpoint like mine makes a lot of sense. Jesus pleads with god, which makes no sense if they are "worth" the same. He often talks as if he is subject to god. Suggesting that arianism came from a pagan view on divinity in half divine beings from pagan mythology like Achilles seems a bit "slandering", since we actually do not really know much of Arian theology, since most of it was destroyed, and what we know is from anti-arian sources which are definetly biased. I get that there are arguments pro an contra trinity, arianism etc. It just seems from the outside that one side of the argument won in large parts not because of theological but political reasons, and either way would have worked out in the end.
For me, it all has to do with projection. Only a person giving their entire life in service to others can believe that God does the same for us. Praise Him!!
Wonderfully on-point Bishop. I suspect that the questions asked in the survey are somewhat ambiguous to a non theologian, and possibly half of respondants would want to say sure Jesus Is God but there is God, Son (Jesus) and the Spirit. I am more worried about those who inaccurately create surveys. I see it done wrong yearly by major corporations across the U.S. trying to poll their own 30 or 40,000+ employees.
You are so clear and helpul in a difficult to understand issue. At least for me that get confused by the language Jesus Himself uses in the Bible in referring to His Father. You, Most Reverend Bishop Barron, are so solid and valiant. Thank you and God bless you for using so well the talents He has given you. I doubt a 20% of all people that declare being catholics, are really catholic.
I am not yet in support of either side of this argument but I think you misunderstand Arius’ reasoning. To deny that Christ and God are of the same substance and is not to say that Christ and humanity are of the same substance. He has a unique form of divinity which makes him greater than humans but different from God.
@@xs10chil_dre-d I have no idea who is in charge of the Arians? I know who is in charge of the Catholics. Jesus said A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Your church is super hidden
@@PInk77W1 First, I have a question of my own. What does a physical (or visible) head of a church have anything to do with legitimacy? But to answer your question, The 'head of our church' is the same person who is at the head of the entire Universal Church. That being Jesus Christ. We don't need anyone else to answer to. We do not need a universal bishop, pope or anyone else to answer to on this earth.
@@xs10chil_dre-d “We don’t need anyone else” Meanwhile Jesus picked 12 people and told them To go to the WHOLE world ? I think Jesus is right and u are wrong. Jesus said to the apostles “He who hears you hears hears me He who rejects you rejects me” Lk 10:16 I think Jesus is right again and u are wrong. Jesus said “If your brother won’t listen to the church treat him as an outsider” Mt 18:17 U are wrong. Jesus is right Paul said The church is the ground and pillar of TRUTH. 1 Tim 3:15 “For this cause I left you in Crete, that thou should set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee.” Titus 1:5 I guess Paul was wrong. We don’t need leaders. LoL. It’s as if u have never read the Bible ? Yes we need a pope in Rome. Yes we have had one for 2000yrs Yes the first 38 were kllld in office Yes it was Jesus who gives us the pope
To lie is a sin. Jesus said he came to do my fathers work not my own. Also said he was less that God. That he sat on the right side if god. On the cross why have you forsaken me? Can you forsake yourself? I realize he makes statements like if you have seen me you have seen my father... Jesus isn't allowed to lie, even once. How do you justify his statements?
I'm not entirely certain who coined the term "Social Justice", but I feel the Catholic Church needs to move away from it. I don't think the Church should move away from the deeds, obviously, but the term has become so radically politicized that it often causes many to bristle when "Social Justice" is referred to as a Christian duty. I know that it does so to me.
Nothing seems to be very precise when it comes to historical theology. The deeper you look, the more complex it becomes. I think, until someone comes up with a better idea, I will declare myself a Celtic Anglo-Catholic. How's that...
Surveys are notorious for language issues. Respondents most often make assumptions about what the question is trying to get to, and they forgive errors that are subtle in nature. Bishop's explanation is important here, but I would not be pessimistic about what the survey tells us about our beliefs, except perhaps for the idea that our Catholic education has been weak, and continues to be weak.
Bishop Barron would you review or be able to direct me to a good review of Atlas Shrugged. I listened to it and really enjoyed it but I know the philosophy has its flaws and I'm looking for a good Catholic perspective on it. Thanks!
Bishop Barron, it is this very subject that STILL leaves me confused! In the Nicean Creed you have quoted from, at the end of it, we say Jesus sits at the right hand of the father, how can Jesus be distinct from the father and sit next to Him? I think the answer is we are to take this figuratively as God's will comes through Jesus. However, this is rarely if ever spoken about. In Matthew's Gopsel tells us how Jesus asked the Father to spare him from the cross, and Jesus questioning the Father about feeling foresaken. This too is rarely explained in terms of the one God in 3 persons. Since a large amount of us struggle with this topic, I would appreciate it greatly if you could devote more time to this, as it has troubled me for 50+ years
I truly dislike the fact that in Canada, we are not required to recite the Nicene Creed (short for Niceno-Constantinople Creed), rather only the Apostles’ Creed on almost every Sunday. Sigh again!
"Heretics are those whose ideas are condemned by the victors". I don't know if my view is "convenient" or if it adds or takes away "relevance" from the "Doctrine". Respectfully, I think the statistics are probably showing that the majority of modern Christians care more about what they sincerely believe and not about what makes the church look "strong". I honestly believe the Bible when it says that Jesus is the "Son" of God, the "Mesiah", our "redeemer", to whom (at some point) all authority "was given" by the Father until the day He (Jesus) "delivers the Kindom to the Father" and "subjects himself to the Father, so that God may be all in all" (1 Corinthians 15:24-28).
Arius had gotten the relationship between God and His Son perfectly correct. Modern teaching by God's Ministering Spirits reveals that Arius was right all along and the corrupt church under the influence of Satan got it all horribly wrong. When a church enters into communication with one of God's angels or Ministering Spirits one of the first questions asked is the relationship between God and Christ. The Ministering Spirit will only tell the truth even if it is unpalatable to the listener - and therein lies the answer as to why the Church today does not avail itself of the Spirits of Truth promised by Christ.
It occurs to me that the survey may have been badly worded or biased in the 1st question. Those who aren't particularly theologically informed might think that saying Jesus is the highest creature or being is saying something good and counter cultural because they haven't really been taught well.
I find your misunderstanding of Arius position important to correct. Arius taught that Jesus was God restrained to the flesh, and considered the Trinity docetist and denying Christ's begotten nature. I find it ironic to claim Arius was the docetist.
It's only herecy because catholics condemned it. It used to be almost the majority of christians. Nevertheless, the bishop seems like a really nice guy, I like the tone of his voice too. Coming from an arian christian 😊
I firmly believe one of our issues as Catholics, is that our leaders, don’t seem to see evangelization as a never ending reality. Another, I find the media ( books and resources) used to teach rather dry. It becomes to both the teacher and the student, just one more subject among many other subjects. It’s impersonal and dry . We are failing to address evangelization as am an encounter with God and His Divinity and Love. We are whole person, so we must bring our students from both the spiritual and the intellectual. If religion becomes a set of rules and a duty to believe, it will put in the shelves as another to compete w so many others for our attention and commitment. We have an incredible opportunity to evangelize during sacramental preparation; however, when this is done as a process where a lot of people are packed and in large groups, and often in a microwave manner ( 3 hrs and done). This could be changed if we spend time with the instructors, we need to spend time and effort , so they are well equipped to carry on this essential mission. I still wonder why persons preparing children for first communion, they themselves don’t believe in the true Presence. A person teaching, at my church stating that in order to study Holy Scripture , one must put aside spirituality and put only the intellectual hat. If we perceive scripture to only acquire knowledge, rather getting to know Christ, we might not be able to nourish our souls w His Word, and again not perceiving it as the Divine Verb
"If (Jesus) He's only a teacher, the heck with Him." - Bishop Robert Barron Ok but WHAT are those statistics. That can't be true. I can't believe we've failed that badly. *Note, this is coming from a Catholic living in the Philippines so I wouldn't actually know how bad the environment is over there.*
It’s pretty bad to be honest. The majority of Catholics i run into seem to be pro-choice if they’re under the age of like 50 and most others are only nominally Catholic. It’s pretty disheartening.
Peace and Good ! The -FUNDATION- of our RCCFAITH is the EUCHARIST!!!!!, how long we had been saying in every single Holy Mass; " this IS my body, this IS my blood !!!!! " ????......to the US catholics said now year 2020 that they do NOT beleive it in almost 80 % it's OUTRAGE AND A SHAME !!! . I do pray every day to our Lord Jesus for our bichops & priests bc they probably feel extremely hurt deep in their heart what's going on in our Church with this sad issue...😭 I also when I'm praying the Holy Rosary I ask our IMMACULATE Mother -patroness of USA - to protect us from every evil !!!! .PTL . Deus Meus Et Omnia ! 👍
That the same in an LCMS Church. I wrote a thesis on this very topic in college, primarily the Arian Heresy and how it figured into the creation of the Holy Trinity.
Nicene Creed: I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen. Bishopm Barron can I ask you a question? Do you believe in the Resurrection of the Dead??
Absolutely agree with Bishop Barron. Lack of belief in the Triune God, along with belief in the Real Presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Eucharist, is being lost. Also poor catechesis in the home and at school is at the route of the disbelief. These aspects of the one, true, Catholic and apostolic faith need to understood, by excellent and continous catechesis. We cannot grow in belief, if we don't have belief in the first instance. Fr. John A Hardon, S.J., was an excellent teacher, and his teaching videos are freely available on TH-cam. Pax Christi. ☘☘☘
I am not a catholic, but I love you and I love your work Bishop.
God bless you!
Bishop Robert Barron
I really enjoy your content, your excellency! I’m, personally, a Russian Orthodox and would be very interested in watching you debate an orthodox priest or discuss the theological differences between Orthodoxy and Catholicism.
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What do you destroy normally? Just curious. Thank you
@@chissstardestroyer What is truth?
VegaDog, Please, follow Bishop Barron's teachings. You will learn, you will feel, you will think. Your soul will grow, until you seem to suddenly feel your moment comes. Please join your brothers & sisters in the most beautiful, richly deep Catholic Faith -> will lead you rightly + always relevant, as is God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, will lead you when you heart & spirit are ready. Hold tightly to Jesus. Your life will be changed forever. ✝️💕
Bishop Barron I am eternally grateful to you for bringing me back to the faith .. a debt I’ll never be able to pay.. God bless you and your work .. keeping fighting the good fight !
Dear Bishop Barron, I am a Catholic theoretical physicist and I love all the work you do. Thank you for bringing our faith's rich intellectual tradition back into the spotlight. As you say, I believe this is much needed these days, for those who are willing to listen and learn. This discussion of arianism and how the Nicene creed relates to it was super interesting, thank you!
God bless you! We need you in the fight. Most young people who disaffiliate from the Church claim that their number one reason for doing so is the incompatibility of science and religion. Help us with this.
@@BishopBarron When I read Henry Adams or Adoulus Huxley it becomes clear that no scientific discovery led them away from the church, but that Darwin could be used to do away with obligation. In Huxley’s case, he said he was an advocate of Darwin because Christianity interfered with his preferred sex life. .
What's the difference between a Catholic theoritical physicist and an Eastern Orthodox theoritical physicist? I always figured since the Scientific Revolution, physics was rather nonsectarian. What's different? Does gravity effect Protestants differently than Catholics?
@@markstuber4731 The Catholic theoretical physicist comes up with the Big Bang theory, whereas the Eastern Orthodox theoretical physicist does more applied work such as pupinization.
@@markstuber4731 The physics is the same, of course. I just wanted to point out that being a theoretical physicist and being a Catholic are not mutually exclusive, as I am both.
What is needed is adult catachesis, even for cradle Catholics.
Oh yes. I feel like most parents of kids getting ccd preparation need cocatechesis because some Ig them neglect the faith and some of the kids r prepared to disregard regardless the emphasis needed
Why? According to Barron and the rest of the VII sect, everyone can be saved regardless of their beliefs.
@@88grinder Of course, silly me! I'm sure that all the satanists are saved and in Heaven! XD
@@daithimcbuan5235 That's what they want us to believe, but I don't think the Vatican II heretics are saved. The Catholic Church has been very clear about this for almost 2,000 years.
@@88grinder What a ridiculous and juvenile thing to assert.
Thank you Bishop for your thoughts and Brandon for this topic. I m from India and we Catholics in India don't fully understand the humanity and divinity of our Lord. Praying to the Holy Spirit to help our cathechetics
I have had my issues with Bishop Barron but when he teaches he's excellent. Ever in my seventies I needed to hear this talk to yet again understand what I believe and why.
*THANK YOU, Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU, Bishop Barron and Brandon Vogt* for presenting the hugely relevant, much needed topic on the Word On Fire Show☆
Bishop I need your prayers, I have two adopted children, because of abuse I divorced (after 35 yrs of marriage)and got an annulment from the father of my 6 children. We are struggling financially. We keep moving from place to place, we have nothing left $$..I moved to another country and I just don't know where the Lord want me to raise my two children. (the others are all married and doing well) My 14 yr old daughter is severely autistic and developmentally disabled. I am 60 yrs old and was diagnosed with R.A. I try to be faithful to the Lord. I want HIM to send me a sign of where we should be living. A place where the kids can be happy. Also, i get almost nothing child support. Please pray for me Bishop Barron, you are like my hero Bishop Fulton Sheen and I need prayers to know where I should settle with my two children. God Bless You!
Marcela Maria, I am so saddened to hear of your struggles. I can empathize, I have lived a similar road. What God is showing me is that His peace is not dependant on where we live, or who supports us, but true peace only comes as we plunge into his providence and allow Him to provide for us while taking steps towards what is good as it is revealed. You have a heavy load, my friend and you cannot do this alone. I pray that God surround you with a few precious souls who will walk with you and live in His truth with you. The decision you had to make is not always understood and so you may fell alone, but know that God is your defender and He knows everything that is and was. In HIM you can trust. I also pray that you get support for your daughter. It takes more than us mamas to raise a child, it takes a healthy, helpful village. You are precious, Marcela and your girls will be your motivation to keep taking one step at a time towards the Light of love and peace and truth. Hold fast to the scriptures and read them often. let them be a constant sign and strength for you. May you hear the voice of the Shepherd and follow Him in faith. He will provide all you need, no worrying! Praying abundance over you my new friend.
Why aren't your 4 children who are married and doing well helping you and their siblings?
read the Qur'an
I'm brazilian, and i love to listen to Dom Barron! Thank you Bishop! God bless you and your ministry! (Deus o abençoe sempre e proteja)
That first statement that Bishop made is why one of my teachers, one of Bishop's students said, "people have no idea what they are protesting," in the Creed and in Christian theology.
Catholics need to be seriously educated on catechism.
Apparently, catholics relied too much on catholics schools. I say dump the schools. Instead spend catholic money with good catholic paid instructions after or before mass and with bible camps for kids.
Catholic answers does this but it’s work never done
The programs are offered, how about committed adults and desire to follow through? Do parents even have conversations with their children? Do they ask them: what did you learn today? HMMM 🤔... let me see after CCD I can hear: hurry up, get in the car the football game is about to start, and I still need to stop picking up some beers and get some snacks! Or, leeeet’s go: “you have dance class in a bit” “we have to go across town for your soccer practice!” .... CCD is an hour once a week OCT-MAY approximately ... Bible studies are also about an hour every week. I am sure that every Archdiocese has programs throughout, do we know what they are?
Catechism is mostly catholic teaching not consistent with Scripture. Catholics would be much better off studying the Bible.
@@tilesetter1953 the Bible that the Catholics made? How could Catechism be inconsistent with the Bible if the Bible itself is part of the Catechism?
Pretty discouraging. I went to Catholic school fo 16 years in the 60’s and 70’s. In the early years they did a pretty good job but as we got older forget it. Religious classes became all about comparative religions and all sorts of fringe topics. No one ever talked about Aquinas and the proofs of God’s existence; no one ever took out humane vitae and examine what it says and why. What can be done about it. Tough road ahead.
Also the church fathers are extremely important. Without them we will not be able to open the Bible message.
I hear from catholic school teachers this, its regular school with a brief theology class
@@tomgreene2282 ....Ireland is right now at this time in the world NOT the best example of RCC FAITH to anyone, sorry but Plain Truth !!! .
Deus Volt !👍
Ave Maria IMMACULATE !👏🌷🌷🌷
Education is new to every child so if there is will......
@@tomgreene2282 I am Irish (and a practicing Catholic) and took a Theology program at Maynooth College about three years ago. I very much agree with you, it was an excellent program. Watching this superb video of Bishop Barron nailing it (once again) brought me right back to our class on Systematic Theology and the priest lecturer who gave the course making this very same argument. It was the first time I heard the term 'Homoousious'. Both my lecturer and @BishopBarron made this very important distinction so clear that it honestly enflames heart. I also agree with @raulbaquero that Irish Catholics generally are extremely poorly catechised (myself included) and our country certainly cannot be held up as an example sadly, but there are many grass roots shooting up thank God. Please pray for the Irish people and those who govern us. God bless! (Sorry for the long comment!)
This is so powerful, the description of the Nicene Creed. We neeeed more of this in the church. We need more and more and more of this!!! God bless you Bishop Barron.
I'm going to have to listen to this more than twice.
MY immediate idea! I have to refresh my knowledge as I ´ve just found I am ashamingly stupid regarding the first councils, I thought I knew what arianism is, but got it completely wrong. Reason? My laziness to study more the most important thing in my life.
Me too. It is complex because of all the details attached. It was beautifully explained but my concentration could not handle the volume of facts presented. Like you, I will definitely hear this again.
As someone with an interest in ancient roman history this was the best break down of Arianism I've heard. Thanks for the great video!
I grew up in the 1950/60. In South Africa As a catholic child however only attending a Catholic school in my first few years of schooling. Then going to a government school were general Christian Bible studies were followed.
Although as a family we still went to mass ever Sunday. I was married in the Catholic Church to a non Catholic. And yes slowly lost my faith. Because of lack of true knowledge of my faith. However I never lost my true belief in a true God and praying the Rosary from time to time.
Thankfully i am now able to reconnect with my faith and am attending Mass on You Tube everyday and have a great hunger for knowledge. Word on Fire found me. Bishop Barren is an amazing teacher. The faith I believe has been greatly lost because the church has not done truely enough of educating the teachers of the faith. My own children eventually refused to go to catechism because they said it was so boring.
Yet Bishop Barron shows how interesting the history is of our faith and I think that to a large extent is what's missing. We go to mass and believe that's enough to keep us faithful.
I am so excited to be part of Word on Fire and reading my Bible with greater understanding. God Bless you Bishop Barron.
Never knew this was the Gettysburg of Christianity and our Catholic faith thank you and God bless you both.
It’s January 12, 2021 and I received my copy of Word on Fire Bible Gospels a few days ago! It is truly beautifully made!!! It exceeded my expectations! I was very pleasantly surprised to also recieve such a beautiful journal as a complimentary gift! Thank you Bishop Baron for proclaiming the gospel through your ministry! I also like listening to Brandon’s questions for you to answer to help us understand more clearly our catholic faith. God bless you in all you do and to all the lives you touch through Holy Trinity.
When i was a young boy in my religion classes, my teacher made it so clear the importance of the hypostatic union. I didnt understand then, but now i see just how important and True it is.
I am not Catholic but as a fellow Christian, I thank the Lord for this video! Blessings to you!
Thank you for this high quality catechism
Thanks for giving us a few words on the difference between being "created" (or "made") and being "begotten"! That's probably what trips most people up.
Here's the relevant segment of the Nicene Creed, for those who don't have it memorized:
"I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God
Begotten by His Father before all worlds,
God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God,
Begotten, not made
Being of one substance with the Father
By whom all things are made"
(Apologies if the Lutheran version is different than the Catholic)
You are right on Bishop Barron. I was born in 1955 so came up in the church at the same time as you did. I have been preaching this for years. It affected all areas of my life. I am so very thankful for all the information, studies, WOF, intelligent debate, books for laity, The Institute and Journal is amazing. Scott Hahn and all that he has brought to every aspect of the Church. We are living in crazy times. Keep Preaching!!! God Bless you and your entire WOF team.
Arius was totally right, may god bless his soul
Lack of Catholic truth teaching such as the nature of the Holy Trinity, and the 'softening' of the truth, for some reasons, have created these mistaken beliefs among Catholics. Even I initially believed that the Holy Communion only has temporal God's spirit in it, and that only if you believe, I think the teachers said the consecrated Bread and Wine are Body and Blood of Christ, but never explained the transubstantiation and the presence of Jesus full in Body, Soul, and Divinity.
In short American protostsntism is a theological meme
@@drewbakka5265 I attended Catholic schools by the way and that's what happened to me
Ex Muslim here in my beginnings. I was a bit confused in nature of trinity. I tried to get solved mistery following the heart and somehow I got realization that praying to Jesus is literally praying to God. God to explain himself to us is getting three personalities which have their roles and are consequences of fallen angels rebellion but they are ultimately One. I pray that God forgive us all if we r confused in our limited minds. I am afraid of those topics because wrong realization can maybe lead to losing of eternal life.😢
If you really want to understand this, you have to go to the Orthodox Church. Catholicism is another form of Arianism.
@@thane816 Even in the orthodox church there is chaos in the teachings - it depends on which orthodox church it is. When there is no Pope to bring order. The same chaos is in Protestant churches
Bishop, you are a treasure to me a convert and to the Catholic Church! Thank you for your blessing from God!
Father keep us youth in your prayers
Thank you very much ⚘💕
Blessings from 🇦🇪( UAE)🌷🌷🌷
thank you Bishop Barron you make it clear in our time, may a thousand more like you be there in the days to come to guide and clear the doubts of the future generation, may God Almighty continue to inspire you and guide you with the true wisdom amen. a Catholic from Nagalim.
I have never laughed so hard in your youtube ministry, Bishop Barron. Keep it up your creative style with Brandon Vogt. Now I know that the light casts speculations on your hair. God bless Bishop Barron, I am a permanent fan of yours. My faith is lit up because of your Word on Fire. Thank you very much.
Its funny how so many Catholics nowadays like to turn into armchair theologians and criticize and condemn Pope Francis, yet there's a very real chance they don't even believe in the eucharist. So much for their holiness and expertise. That tendency doesn't just exist among Catholics either.
of course you could also say that the Pope should be more concerned with the lack of theological discernment of his flock and stop focusing on environmentalism and south american style revolutionary tendencies
We should hold OUR Church accountable. It's not unjust judgment to call out sin. We all sin. Does Pope Francis call out sin among our Church leaders? Ask the German Bishops.
@@TimothyFitch I see you've got me all figured out. Of course you could try to point out the errors of my opinion instead of a personal attack but what is the fun in that right?
@@TimothyFitch that's being judgmental
Despite the hosts of their opposite-ing.
8:36 who is arius?
21:32 begotten not made
What I get from this exchange: God doesn’t do love, He is Love. Being consubstantial to God, Jesus, therefore, is Love; not a portion of, nor an expression of. Hence, He is Love both as a substantive and a verb at the same time and in perfection.
Levis Shalom
NKJV, 1 John 4:8: "...God is love."
Is a summation of gospel truths, the truth, or, simply not the gospel truth?
Greetings brothers. I am a faithful Christian (i do not consider myself an Arianist) and really admire and thank you for your work, but doesn't Paul say in Colossians 1:15 that Jesus is the primogenit of all creation? And didn't Jesus himself said: the Father greater that I is? And wasn't His power granted by The Father? Isn't that The Father created pre-incarnated Jesus to share in His God-Trinity and make Him The Creator of all matter? I would appreciate your enlightening in this regard. Thanks and may God bless your path.
I could not agree more about the failure of how we are teaching about our Catholic faith. My oldest daughter went through 9 years of CCD and was always complaining about how the teachers weren’t teaching anything. There were basic questions she could not answer because they were never talked about in class. In her 7th grade year, her teacher spent all his time telling them why they needed to grow up to vote Republican (further cementing my idea that Americans have turned politics into their religion). My daughter was very turned off by all this, but fortunately, she did decide to go through confirmation. Now that I have found out I can homeschool her brothers in non-sacrament years, that is what I am going to do, and hopefully also fill in the gaps for my daughter, too. Your videos will also be a great help!
What state are you in? I can't believe a teacher is telling kids how to vote..
I have always had trouble with putting trinitarian views somewhere along the line of monotheistic religions
Isn't the Ibrahimic tradition all about believing in one god that isn't a component of parts? I would be thankful if you would explain in simplest terms what is the place of the trinity in monotheistic theology in one of your videos.
God bless Bishop Robert Barron and his great work!
As a descendent of a Confederate veteran! Do appreciate you qualifying of you comments on Gettysburg! Thank you Bishop! I have a lot of respect for you! You are spot on!
God bless you bishop. I'm from Indonesia
I am Egyptian from Muslim background. And I have been randomly browsing for days Abt history...one thing led to another..them stumbled on history on Copts...then found Aryanism...I liked the idea of logos is god..but that's because I already knew about stoicism..and what it means to say logos ..the divine order in nature.. anyway opened that video..and here I am having another wakening...I really didn't know anything Abt christians...always wondered how can ppl believe that a human can be god...is it symbolic of combining the divinity within us as humans..but then why they say father..and son...your video is very enlightening ...it just shows that if you want to understand sthg that looks weird...go to the ppl who have the knowledge ..otherwise you'll stay igborant and judgemental forcever. Thank you for ur amazing explanations and thank you genuinely for explaining things with so much passion and objectivity and devotion while the same time remaining very reasonable and sensical. I usually avoid preachers when I want to know Abt any religion..they speak beautifully...they have persuasive skills but eventually u reflect on what they said and you know you've been deceived.
I am so happy to find you and so eager to actually learn Abt Christianity from you.
Thank you
And apologies for language mistakes and long message .
And while you're at it remember to buy all the books, merchandise and other useless bs. Plus the patron subscription of course. it's the only thing keeping this business afloat.. that and faith.
Seriously tho,
You're not that far off from the truth, Sara. you're clearly showing the willingness to change, the willingness to repent. Just try not get all caught up in all of these newly-discovered notions, don't be a slave to charlatans, don't let them get ahold of your mind and heart or you'll end just where you started. Jesus came to preach liberty to the captives so you don't have to be a prisoner anymore, of your lust, of your sins, of others... Try to dig deeper, search everywhere, don't leave any stone unturned.
You were born fatherless? You got abused at one point perhaps? Your family mistreat you maybe?
I'm sorry for what you have gone through but here is the good news, The Bible is the Good News! All of that doesn't matter, You'll always have your Eternal, Heavenly Father by your side. God loves you, Sarah. So, please don't lose your soul.
“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
"Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled."
"طُوبَى لِلْمَسَاكِينِ بِالرُّوحِ، لأَنَّ لَهُمْ مَلَكُوتَ السَّمَاوَاتِ"
"طُوبَى لِلْجِيَاعِ وَالْعِطَاشِ إِلَى الْبِرِّ، لأَنَّهُمْ يُشْبَعُونَ"
Matthew 5 | متى 5
God bless you, I'll be praying for you
Keep on searching and praying ask the Lord to show you who Jesus is and study the Resurrection. Christianity stands and falls on this.
(I disagree with Bishop Barron, on this Scripture tell us what's needed for salvation). Ask Jesus to show you who he is.
Research the origins of Islam, there are many academics and channels doing this on YT too. God bless.
I had no idea about our recuting of the Nicean creed as literally combating the Arian heresy. Incredible! As a Baptist, I haven't been as steeped in church history as our Catholic brothers. Really cool. Loved the show!
good on you brother! I encourage you n the Lord Yeshua to study what the Catholic church teaches-including scripture and the early church fathers. When the church put the bible together they did it under the same Holy Spirit that continues to guide their successors and us their descendants in the spirit-even through all our foibles and failures as humans. Beautiful Universal church of all colours and cultural expressions, still standing as "the pillar and ground of truth." 1 Tim 3:15
I wish we had a bishop like this!!
I am curious to know what the survey defines as a Catholic: is it a person who has been baptized in the Catholic faith, or is it a practicing Catholic, because if you use the former, the data is going to be skewed to something that is not completely Catholic. However, if you use the latter, you are going to get a number of Catholics who are more in line with the faith.
@Mystical MediaHi mystical Media, I never said that they weren't, all I am saying is that if we define Catholic as all who are baptized ( including those who Identify as catholic and those who do not) or those who are practicing Catholic ( which i think may mostly imply those who Identify as Catholic) you are going to get different results. Which ones are the right results, I know do not.
@Trump supporter interesting idea. If there was a person who believes in everything that the Church teaches and diligently tries to live a life of Catholic holiness, but voted for someone who was, say, a prolife democratic candidate, would he or she still not be Catholic? I am not necessarily saying that what I am proposing is right or wrong, I am just curious what your thoughts are.
@Trump supporter The especial thing about the papacy is that even if the Pope is bad God will not allow him to twist the faith. At this point is history is so developed that it is almost impossible that someone twist the faith. The pope should be strengthening force of unity for the Unity that the Church is. I don't agree with some political actions of the pope, but the church is not about the pope, it is Christ centric and the papacy is the visible sign of the invisible Center of Unity (The whole Christ as an organism).
@Trump supporter really are you catholic? DO not mix politics with catholic faith, John 18:36: “Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” Because if you did it,(mix politics ) answer me, Is fair as trumpist (Not republican), be again the nature, be again immigrants (legal or illegal) be racist. Peace for you and may God enlight you.
@Mystical Media However non practicing Catholics can be pro choice, pro homosexual marriage, pro sex change, pro in vitro, etc.
So we must separate the grain from the chaff. If a survey of Catholics include questions about abortion or homosexual marriage and they answer they are in agreement with those issues the results will show a given percent of Catholics are with controversial issues. That doesn't reflect the beliefs of a true practicing Catholics.
All Catholics should not be lumped together. I have Catholic family that is so pro choice it makes me I'll.
And anyone who supports the deaths of the unborn are not permitted communion.
What we should do is pray for those non practicing/fallen away Catholics like Biden, Pelosi and all others to see the light of the word of God.
This has finally put a lot of things together for me. Thank you for the information.
Bishop's explanations are so helpful and elucidating. What a brilliant speaker he is.
This topic of the Arian controversy has been on my mind for sometime since an agnostic friend of mine challenged me on why orthodox Christians made such a big stink about defining the divinity of Christ leading up to/after the Council of Nicaea. You did a good job addressing all the scholarship related to this topic that should allow me to address it more confidently in the future. (Although based on my other research you could have expanded a little more on the decision by the council to use the nonbiblical homo uzios term, which was apparently controversial at the time.) Nevertheless, thank you again, Bishop!
Let us pray for all good and faithful priests who dedicate themselves to their people with generosity and unknown sacrifices
Amen.. how are you doing?
I'm tired of debating with my family. They falsely interpret the Bible and purport that Jesus comes second to God. I tried to tell them to be aware of the heresy of Arianism and they basically insulted me. It's a, shame that some my fellow Catholics know so little on the basis of their faith
I find it hard to believe that God being a Trinity of Persons is an unappealing doctrine. The fact that God is an eternal communion of self-giving Love in himself should be the most beautiful fact ever! Mysterious yes, but beautiful!
It is truly profound to think that "relationship" is the highest and deepest truth and reality, because that is who God is.
Interesting. My perspective as an agnostic who is investigating Christianity:
First, I suspect that the popular opinion manifested in the survey doesn’t suggest a failure of the church (even the bishop states that they hammer the Nicene Creed constantly) as much as it points to the inherent ambiguity of the Trinity and the fact that it’s quite difficult to read it in scripture without presupposing it from theology. If it were obvious, it wouldn’t have taken 3 centuries to achieve “consensus” on the nature if Christ and another century to articulate a eternally coequal Trinity.
Second, I strongly disagree that the Arian Christology in diminishes, let alone destroys Christianity. As fair as the bishop may have been to the Arian position, I don’t think Arius (or other anti-Trinitarians) would agree that they think of Jesus as “just a wise teacher”, but rather that he is unique in all of history as the divinely anointed, exclusively authorized and empowered human messiah, the only Son of God.
Thank you Bishop Baron. You are a man of God I perceive. I’m not a catholic, but born and brought up in Lutheran faith. We do regularly recite the Nicene Creed in our church. And I strongly believe in what I recite. And I am not at all a Christian if Jesus Christ is not God. And I don’t consider those people as Christians who deny that Jesus is not God. I really appreciate your strong views on the divinity of Lord Jesus Christ.
Extremely informative for a convert of 40 years. Thanks
Hello greetings... Hope you are great, can we talk on WhatsApp?
Ditto on breaking the bread w/Bishop Barron!
Great ”lecture”, finally I know what to think about Kant and why ”do-gooder’s humanism” don’t work
Wow. Superb stuff Bishop. Thank you.
Well said Bishop Barron and Brandon! Other heresies making a quiet (or not so quiet) comeback: Pelagianism, Donatism, Gnosticism.
Catholics really need more priests and Bishops of this intellectual apologetics and evangelical caliber.
I too have been startled about these surveys, although I can relate to the fact that our Catechism fell off a cliff in the 70's. Seems to me the Bishops had a laissez-faire attitude towards many aspects of Church life, because of this while I am not a Trad, I do sympathize with them on certain issues. This makes me realize that our reunion with the east is so important, they still focus on the language intently.
We believe Jesus is god and it’s his real body n blood in the Eucharist / we need to give the information of our faith to others🙏🏻😍
Begotten not made, through Him all things are made
As a Protestant thank you for this Bishop Barron, may continue God bless you in our united fight against Arianism.
wow......really?
@@Flarisic Yes really….is there a problem?
@sjappiyah4071 Arainism is Biblical truth. The Trinity doctrine is a form of idolatry.
@@aMillionHotels LOL comedy gold .
BIBLICAL PROOF THAT THE TRINITY DOCTRINE IS FALSE! I’m a former Baptist, but for 25 years I’ve been a Sabbath Keeping, non-denominational Believer. The TRINITY is false because the Bible clearly teaches that the Most High God CREATED, MADE, and BEGOT His Son!
Christ was the first Creation of His Father. Everything else was created through & by Christ! (Colossians 1:15-19). But all things reproduce after their own kind... INCLUDING GOD! So, the "begotten" SON IS 100% DEITY & SUPREME OVER ALL OTHER CREATIONS!
The Scriptures below confirm that the Trinity is error because Yeshua is neither equal nor co-eternal with His Father.
The first 3 Holy Scriptures prove that The Messiah WAS CREATED. The last 3 prove that the Savior is not equal to His Father, but is greater than all except His Father. The Trinity doctrine seems to teach IDOLATRY. And for sure, most churches that teach IDOLATRY also teach to break another eternal Commandment… THEY SPIT UPON THE SACRED 7TH DAY SABBATH, and obey the change to the Commandments made by pagan Rome (Council of Laodicea, 364 AD, Canon 29).
(HEBREWS 1:4) Being MADE so much better than the angels, as HE hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
(And before anyone claims that this truth of Christ “BEING MADE BETTER THAN ANGELS” is referring to His earthly birth, Hebrews 2:9 refutes that connection. When the Lamb of God walked the earth, the Bible confirms He was MADE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS!)
(REVELATION 3:14) These things saith the Amen,
the faithful and true witness, THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD.
COLOSSIANS 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE.
JOHN 14: 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I.
(This clear truth by the Son of God should be enough to settle this issue. But heresies are tough to kill.)
1 Corinthians 11: 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD.
(In the minds of the undeceived, “HEAD OF” DOES NOT MEAN EQUAL!)
1 Corinthians 15:27-28
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that HE IS EXCEPTED, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, THEN SHALL THE SON ALSO HIMSELF BE SUBJECT UNTO HIM that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
The die-hard Trinitarians will bring up 1 John 5:7-9
There are two things to consider. You believe that being One means they are equal. It does not.
Let's look at John 17:21... 👉🏿👉🏿👉🏿"That they all MAY BE ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”👈👈👈
(Being described as ONE does not make us gods!)
I know Trinitarians use 1 John 5:7-9 as a cornerstone, but it's a weak one. Also, there is no record of that statement in any of the Greek Manuscripts prior to the 1400s. Some believe it was added to support Trinitarianism. I'm not adopting this belief, but this is an old controversy and well-documented online. Just Google it.
Matthew 4: 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
@@sjappiyah4071
I was always taught that Christ was fully human as well as divine…something only God, the Trinity, can fully understand. Our finite minds cannot fully understand.
Another topic of interest..needed statements to initiate peace and NOT condemnation. thank you 🙏🏾
I've learned to never trust any polls. Before I ever allow a poll in any conversation or discussion I ask who was polled, who administered this poll, when it was taken and where. If someone can't give me this information, I don't include this unsubstantiated data in my analysis.
So, starting there, you should at least have some patience with low information Catholics who might have been deceived by the first question, and they really do not know any better for the distinction of the word 'created'. Most even low information Catholics would double back if you asked them the followup question if they believed Christ was begotten or created.
I also would question the very much repeated stat that 60%+ Catholics don't believe in the true presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. If you were to take that survey to every mass attending Catholic TODAY, it would be much better. Let's run with that number now, please.
With the questions mentioned in the video, it is no wonder that so many Catholics agreed, because for them Jesus is all this and so much more. And if you hear these questions over the phone, for example, and cannot look back on the written word, you can easily answer two completely contradicting questions with "agreement". And let's not forget the use of the word in everyday language, where "created" is easily equated with "begotten",especially when it comes to new life.
Dear brother Hugo Peace & Good !,
This is worse than what you think....we are living in the center of a ver ugly - spiritualy WAR - between the GOOD & the evil...what ever is GOOD is bad, what ever is bad is GOOD ! .
regarding the poll, it was made by the US RCC to the - catholics who go to the Holy Mass on Sundays - ...ONLY !!! therefore, it hurt even more...
Remeber when Satan tempted Jesus, what he did ?, he went to the desert 40 days of prayer, fasting and PENANCE so, if we are Christ followers, that is exactly what we'd do today like we did in the past !, Don't be ....AFFRAID !! .😃.
" Sursum Corda !! "
" Maranatha ! "
Ave Maria IMMACULATE !👏👍😅
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
@@raulbaquero5081 It is more like the days when The Lord sent Jonah to Nineveh, to a people who didn't know their right hand from their left, and there are many cattle here as well. Because of these times, when virtue and vice are turned upside down, we should petition for mercy and illumination, because there are lies everywhere. We have rebellions even within the Church who tear their clothes like the hypocrites, who are bashful at the altar because of their own shame, but who would not suffer shame on behalf of The Church and bare with these trials during her passion.
In the desert, Satan's temptation was the offer to concede; to cease his opposition there and then, if only God would admit he had failed. That the Almighty was wrong in creating man. But just as Jesus would not suffer any shortcut to glory or even for peace, so must we endure his wretched machinations. For if it were not for his infernal interference, there would have been peace here long ago. An age of conscientiousness and soul searching, rather than one of confusion and dissatisfaction.
Even those within the Church, who presume themselves the elite, have strayed in their presumption. They believe holiness is for separation from, rather than for the sanctification of, the immature. They have lost their way looking on high for what is found hidden in the orphan and dispossessed. This is a lesson for us all and though I'm angry enough to die, I'll sit on the hill and preserve the vine from the worm instead.
I am ready.
I like knowing a bit about the history of Christianity.
Hello greetings, how are you doing?
@@michaelroland5021 qaa1a
Atheist here, just for a headsup. But this is ment as a serious question. I do not get how acceptance of Ariansim would have been the end of Christianity? This just seems like an assumption after the fact. It's not too hard to imagine an alternative universe were ariansim became orthodoxy ( i mean it was the more popular standpoint several times during the 4th century, even after Nicea), arguing that accepting the trinity would have been the end of Christianity "because it would have been an interesting worldview, but in the end just another Polytheist religion". If I understood corectly Arius argued that Jesus was created by god because he thought that having three equal seperate beings in one was polytheism. Which from a layman standpoint like mine makes a lot of sense. Jesus pleads with god, which makes no sense if they are "worth" the same. He often talks as if he is subject to god.
Suggesting that arianism came from a pagan view on divinity in half divine beings from pagan mythology like Achilles seems a bit "slandering", since we actually do not really know much of Arian theology, since most of it was destroyed, and what we know is from anti-arian sources which are definetly biased.
I get that there are arguments pro an contra trinity, arianism etc. It just seems from the outside that one side of the argument won in large parts not because of theological but political reasons, and either way would have worked out in the end.
For me, it all has to do with projection. Only a person giving their entire life in service to others can believe that God does the same for us. Praise Him!!
Wonderfully on-point Bishop.
I suspect that the questions asked in the survey are somewhat ambiguous to a non theologian, and possibly half of respondants would want to say sure Jesus Is God but there is God, Son (Jesus) and the Spirit.
I am more worried about those who inaccurately create surveys.
I see it done wrong yearly by major corporations across the U.S. trying to poll their own 30 or 40,000+ employees.
You are so clear and helpul in a difficult to understand issue. At least for me that get confused by the language Jesus Himself uses in the Bible in referring to His Father. You, Most Reverend Bishop Barron, are so solid and valiant. Thank you and God bless you for using so well the talents He has given you. I doubt a 20% of all people that declare being catholics, are really catholic.
I am not yet in support of either side of this argument but I think you misunderstand Arius’ reasoning. To deny that Christ and God are of the same substance and is not to say that Christ and humanity are of the same substance. He has a unique form of divinity which makes him greater than humans but different from God.
How does one have a unique form of divinity?
Always learning from Bishop Barton’s interesting lessons. Thank you❣️
Arianism discussion starts at 8:35
God bless you Bishop .. praise the Lord..
Modern Gnostic and Arian here.....
We're still alive and well Bishop :)
But u have no power no authority no truth.
@@PInk77W1 Father Forgive You, For You Know Not What You Say Or Do.....
@@xs10chil_dre-d I have no idea who is in charge of the Arians? I know who is in charge of the
Catholics.
Jesus said
A city on a hill cannot be hidden.
Your church is super hidden
@@PInk77W1 First, I have a question of my own. What does a physical (or visible) head of a church have anything to do with legitimacy?
But to answer your question, The 'head of our church' is the same person who is at the head of the entire Universal Church. That being Jesus Christ. We don't need anyone else to answer to. We do not need a universal bishop, pope or anyone else to answer to on this earth.
@@xs10chil_dre-d
“We don’t need anyone else”
Meanwhile Jesus picked 12 people and told them
To go to the WHOLE world ? I think Jesus is right and u are wrong.
Jesus said to the apostles
“He who hears you hears hears me
He who rejects you rejects me”
Lk 10:16
I think Jesus is right again and u are wrong.
Jesus said
“If your brother won’t listen to the church treat him as an outsider”
Mt 18:17
U are wrong. Jesus is right
Paul said
The church is the ground and pillar of TRUTH.
1 Tim 3:15
“For this cause I left you in Crete, that thou should set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee.”
Titus 1:5
I guess Paul was wrong. We don’t need leaders.
LoL.
It’s as if u have never read the Bible ?
Yes we need a pope in Rome.
Yes we have had one for 2000yrs
Yes the first 38 were kllld in office
Yes it was Jesus who gives us the pope
To lie is a sin. Jesus said he came to do my fathers work not my own. Also said he was less that God. That he sat on the right side if god. On the cross why have you forsaken me? Can you forsake yourself? I realize he makes statements like if you have seen me you have seen my father... Jesus isn't allowed to lie, even once. How do you justify his statements?
Jesus and the Father are not the same person. They're part of the Trinity alongside the Holy Spirit
thank you bishop Barron for your logical and fluent teaching about our Catholic faith.
I'm not entirely certain who coined the term "Social Justice", but I feel the Catholic Church needs to move away from it. I don't think the Church should move away from the deeds, obviously, but the term has become so radically politicized that it often causes many to bristle when "Social Justice" is referred to as a Christian duty. I know that it does so to me.
Great video, Bishop. God bless you and the WoF team.
Nothing seems to be very precise when it comes to historical theology. The deeper you look, the more complex it becomes. I think, until someone comes up with a better idea, I will declare myself a Celtic Anglo-Catholic. How's that...
Surveys are notorious for language issues. Respondents most often make assumptions about what the question is trying to get to, and they forgive errors that are subtle in nature. Bishop's explanation is important here, but I would not be pessimistic about what the survey tells us about our beliefs, except perhaps for the idea that our Catholic education has been weak, and continues to be weak.
Bishop Barron would you review or be able to direct me to a good review of Atlas Shrugged. I listened to it and really enjoyed it but I know the philosophy has its flaws and I'm looking for a good Catholic perspective on it. Thanks!
Bishop Barron, it is this very subject that STILL leaves me confused! In the Nicean Creed you have quoted from, at the end of it, we say Jesus sits at the right hand of the father, how can Jesus be distinct from the father and sit next to Him? I think the answer is we are to take this figuratively as God's will comes through Jesus. However, this is rarely if ever spoken about.
In Matthew's Gopsel tells us how Jesus asked the Father to spare him from the cross, and Jesus questioning the Father about feeling foresaken. This too is rarely explained in terms of the one God in 3 persons. Since a large amount of us struggle with this topic, I would appreciate it greatly if you could devote more time to this, as it has troubled me for 50+ years
He sits at the right hand in his human nature
He is equal to God in his divine nature
It’s a question of relationship not essence
I truly dislike the fact that in Canada, we are not required to recite the Nicene Creed (short for Niceno-Constantinople Creed), rather only the Apostles’ Creed on almost every Sunday. Sigh again!
At the Church that I attend, there was a priest who chose to do the Nicene Creed at Mass, instead of the Apostles' Creed.
Theo Bible expose the Trinity doctrine, Jesus is the true God and eternal life.
That is surprising. Weird even.
They won the battle at Nicea. However over the next couple hundred years they almost lost the war as Arianism continued to spread
"Heretics are those whose ideas are condemned by the victors". I don't know if my view is "convenient" or if it adds or takes away "relevance" from the "Doctrine". Respectfully, I think the statistics are probably showing that the majority of modern Christians care more about what they sincerely believe and not about what makes the church look "strong". I honestly believe the Bible when it says that Jesus is the "Son" of God, the "Mesiah", our "redeemer", to whom (at some point) all authority "was given" by the Father until the day He (Jesus) "delivers the Kindom to the Father" and "subjects himself to the Father, so that God may be all in all" (1 Corinthians 15:24-28).
Thanks so much for this discussion! Maybe an upcoming show could be titled "Pelagianism, Then and Now?
Arius had gotten the relationship between God and His Son perfectly correct. Modern teaching by God's Ministering Spirits reveals that Arius was right all along and the corrupt church under the influence of Satan got it all horribly wrong. When a church enters into communication with one of God's angels or Ministering Spirits one of the first questions asked is the relationship between God and Christ. The Ministering Spirit will only tell the truth even if it is unpalatable to the listener - and therein lies the answer as to why the Church today does not avail itself of the Spirits of Truth promised by Christ.
U r right
AMEN! we cannot argue what we do not know. Thank you for pinpointing those details we tend to filter in our beliefs 🙏💕
It occurs to me that the survey may have been badly worded or biased in the 1st question. Those who aren't particularly theologically informed might think that saying Jesus is the highest creature or being is saying something good and counter cultural because they haven't really been taught well.
Maybe the problem is confusion. The one question says Jesus was "created by God", but if Jesus is God, then how can he be called created by himself?
I find your misunderstanding of Arius position important to correct. Arius taught that Jesus was God restrained to the flesh, and considered the Trinity docetist and denying Christ's begotten nature. I find it ironic to claim Arius was the docetist.
It's only herecy because catholics condemned it. It used to be almost the majority of christians. Nevertheless, the bishop seems like a really nice guy, I like the tone of his voice too.
Coming from an arian christian 😊
Well. Whatever the case, Arians had it rough.
Love the hair comments. Bishop Barron isn's obsessive about his hair - unlike *cough* certain internet commentators with utterly ridiculous wigs!!!
I firmly believe one of our issues as Catholics, is that our leaders, don’t seem to see evangelization as a never ending reality. Another, I find the media ( books and resources) used to teach rather dry. It becomes to both the teacher and the student, just one more subject among many other subjects. It’s impersonal and dry . We are failing to address evangelization as am an encounter with God and His Divinity and Love. We are whole person, so we must bring our students from both the spiritual and the intellectual. If religion becomes a set of rules and a duty to believe, it will put in the shelves as another to compete w so many others for our attention and commitment.
We have an incredible opportunity to evangelize during sacramental preparation; however, when this is done as a process where a lot of people are packed and in large groups, and often in a microwave manner ( 3 hrs and done). This could be changed if we spend time with the instructors, we need to spend time and effort , so they are well equipped to carry on this essential mission. I still wonder why persons preparing children for first communion, they themselves don’t believe in the true Presence. A person teaching, at my church stating that in order to study Holy Scripture , one must put aside spirituality and put only the intellectual hat. If we perceive scripture to only acquire knowledge, rather getting to know Christ, we might not be able to nourish our souls w His Word, and again not perceiving it as the Divine Verb
"If (Jesus) He's only a teacher, the heck with Him."
- Bishop Robert Barron
Ok but WHAT are those statistics. That can't be true. I can't believe we've failed that badly. *Note, this is coming from a Catholic living in the Philippines so I wouldn't actually know how bad the environment is over there.*
It’s pretty bad to be honest. The majority of Catholics i run into seem to be pro-choice if they’re under the age of like 50 and most others are only nominally Catholic. It’s pretty disheartening.
Peace and Good !
The -FUNDATION- of our RCCFAITH is the EUCHARIST!!!!!, how long we had been saying in every single Holy Mass; " this IS my body, this IS my blood !!!!! " ????......to the US catholics said now year 2020 that they do NOT beleive it in almost 80 % it's OUTRAGE AND A SHAME !!! .
I do pray every day to our Lord Jesus for our bichops & priests bc they probably feel extremely hurt deep in their heart what's going on in our Church with this sad issue...😭 I also when I'm praying the Holy Rosary I ask our IMMACULATE Mother -patroness of USA - to protect us from every evil !!!! .PTL .
Deus Meus Et Omnia ! 👍
@@someacolyte5626 that really is depressing news. Welp, I guess that means we've got a lot of work on our hands.
Hahahahahahaha I think that about his hair too.... so glad you talked about it 🙄🤭😝
That the same in an LCMS Church. I wrote a thesis on this very topic in college, primarily the Arian Heresy and how it figured into the creation of the Holy Trinity.
Hello greetings... How are you doing?
Nicene Creed: I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Bishopm Barron can I ask you a question? Do you believe in the Resurrection of the Dead??
One Holy Catholic Apostolic Orthodox Church. The Roman Catholic Church has been un-Catholic from day one of the Great Schism.
Absolutely agree with Bishop Barron. Lack of belief in the Triune God, along with belief in the Real Presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Eucharist, is being lost. Also poor catechesis in the home and at school is at the route of the disbelief.
These aspects of the one, true, Catholic and apostolic faith need to understood, by excellent and continous catechesis. We cannot grow in belief, if we don't have belief in the first instance.
Fr. John A Hardon, S.J., was an excellent teacher, and his teaching videos are freely available on TH-cam.
Pax Christi. ☘☘☘