Understanding Genesis: Creation
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- Friends, in today's episode of “The Word on Fire Show,” we begin a five-part series of discussions on the book of Genesis. Our first episode focuses on the Creation story.
Genesis is of course the first book in the Bible and perhaps the most foundational, but it’s also the source of so much confusion. We clarify what the author is intending to convey and the theological and spiritual truths we can pull from the narrative.
A listener asks, how do I start mental prayer, especially if I’m always distracted?
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I prayed a special prayer for someone passing through hard times, a hard time which seem to be mental, financially and emotionally damaging. I pray for this person reading this, that God will come to your rescue, wipe your tears and restore you whole in Jesus name. Amen
Thank you brother 🙏🏻 I need God's grace
Thankyou,been down for along time.Fighting the good fight is more than his burden is light and his yoke is easy.Grace works better.
Amen
Thank you.
Amen, Thank you 🙏
I could listen to these podcasts on repeat, all day, every day. You are a national treasure, Bishop.
I'm looking forward to the rest of the series! Thank You.
Completely agree.
You need to check out Sam Shamoun. His wonderful in-depth knowledge of the Bible is masterful, powerful, & beautiful.
You are so right, Claudia. You took the words out of my mouth. He is a national treasure.
Rather God's treasure.
I hope Fr. Barron is our Pope someday. He is the most eloquent scholar and exudes the grace of the Holy Spirit. I really hope he is able to "rest" by taking some time off doing some sight seeing or whatever he likes to do. We ask too much of our priests and Bishops and they don't get enough time off. Thank you for making me a holier woman.
Unlikely considering he won’t even engage in meaningful discussions with an atheist. That shows he most likely doesn’t know his subject very well.
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What do you think is his subject?
@@marypinakat8594 the bible for a start.
@@marypinakat8594 none of your business
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Is it your business to go uninvited to someone's personal space and to move around there in contempt?
Bishop Barron is the most sophisticated and yet easily understood bishop I have come across. I really appreciate his teachings.
Thank you so much for all these podcasts.
Is it possible to get the journal if you don't live in the USA?
God bless
Dear Bishop Barron, thank you very much for these deep insights! As a Catholic Christian, theoretical physicist and computer scientist the fundamental wisdom in Genesis (and the complete Bible) has fascinated me for all my life.
You can't be a Catholic Christian, they are very different religions.
@@MysteriousMindMedia There are Christians in the Catholic Church but there is also a lot of dead wood amongst us also.
So your mystery is now solved !
@@peterj6740 There’s antivaxxers with pro vaccine, there’s conservatives with liberals, there’s left handed people with right handed people. Just because there’s people with different views mixed together doesn’t mean they are the same or agree the same things. Just like water with oil.
@@MysteriousMindMedia If you profess the words of the Nicene Creed which is the Creed of Christendom, you are my brother in Christ as we worship the same God our Father, who is the Father of our brother The lord Jesus Christ
The term Catholic Christian is liken to calling someone a human man. The Catholic Church was the beginning of the church started by God, Jesus Christ . And the followers of Jesus became known as Christians. Other denominations can trace their beginnings to one person who did not claim to be God, as Jesus did.
I just love the Bishop's communication skills. His knowledge of life shines thru the clouds of misunderstanding, which produces sunlight .
Bless you and your spiritual work.
I thank you tot have been listening, Jesus bless you 🙏🙏
I re-watched this today shortly before today's (Saturday's) Vigil Mass. What you said about God resting / savoring really sunk in. I always try to be present with Jesus after Holy Communion. Today I savored being united with Him. I savored each aspect to the Mass as we progressed through it. Made it much more fulfilling. Thank you, Bishop Barron.
Jesus is not God.
@@hassanmirza2392bro he is God in human form☠
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LOL! That is paganism, what you are saying.
@@hassanmirza2392 no
Bishop Barron really shines through with these conversations. This is totally his wheelhouse!
So blessed to hear the wisdom of Bishop Barron each week. He helps to fill my soul with the knowledge and love of God and our faith.
Theological poetry? HUH? Is Christianity a Religion or the one truth? Robber Barron seeks to steal your salvation.
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@@fellowsinner7216 I can understand your doubt. At one time the genesis account was considered not only factual but also historical.
When science came to the forefront the Church was eventually forced to change its mind. It simply adjusted her belief to neutralise the facts.
It is now considered poetry to safeguard the existence of God. We are now told it is all poetry but God is real and is no myth.
A lot of Catholics feel betrayed , why did it take nearly 2000 years for the Church to now say " Hey you are misunderstanding Genesis with its genre , it is poetry"
(yet for 2 millenium we told you it actually happened the way it was written )The silent exodus from the Church simply continues unabated and catholics are voting with their feet.
That analogy of not being able to find an author within a novel is genius.
he got it from CS Lewis
I agree with the rosary as a best way of mental prayer. It lead me out of the darkness in my life and lead me to the best journey of my life. Everything that I could ever imagined that was impossible to happen, finding the rosary lead me to my beautiful life today. Mama Mary guided me without me noticing it. ♥️
The book that really helped me understand the creation account was Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's book, In the Beginning.
Thank you, I have to read it.
In the Beginning is one of my favorite books. I read parts of it weekly, and I find a deepened understanding each time. I don't think I will ever finish with it. If you have not read it, I highly recommend it.
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Fr. Barron's comments about getting muddled in the story genre of the Bible have already helped me since I begin my year's reading of the Bible with Genesis. Genesis is so much more understanding, meaningful and lovely when read as a saga. I have been studying Jewish traditions but never thought of it exactly that way.. Thanks so very much, Fr. Barron.
Thank you Brandon for evoking those thought from Bishop Barron with your questions....
Thank you to bishop Barron and WoF team. God’s blessings to you ( WoF team ) and to all those that follow along as “we” gather together.🇨🇦✝️
Fairly new listening for me….very insightful way to navigate christian questions. Bishop Barron is a highly qualified professor of Christianity.
Thank you Bishop Barron.
Have a wonderful Life.
Amen Glory to God in the Highest level of Love forever.
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I am so glad to hear that this priest interprets Genesis allegorically. I have a whole amazing allegorical study on Genesis. Apostolic Church Father, Origen Adamantius, is by far the best interpreter of Genesis. I have learned so much biblical truth from his homilies. Unfortunately, there are many Christians, who do not understand Genesis. They do not understand the meaning of allegories, symbolisms and metaphors.
Thanks Bishop Barron and Brandon, GOD bless you both . Stay safe. ➕❤
Articulate, insightful, and beautiful. Looking forward to this series
Bishop Barron's suggestion to read the first part of the Book of Genesis as a figure of speech is perfect because how else can we explain the existence of a Tree of Knowledge or a Tree of Good and Evil. There are apple trees and pear trees etc. but no such thing as a Knowledge fruit or a Good and Evil fruit. And how else to explain Day One, Two and Three when the sun was created on Day Four. The first few chapters of Genesis reads much like the Book of Revelation -- a sort of fun nonfiction novel.
What a blessed show . . . Thank you Bishop Barron!
thank you. i was lucky to have had a class in college called old testament as literature and it was and thoroughly broken down as you have described here. there are way more styles and motifs in the old testament than a cursory reading would lead one to believe. the instructor was careful to admonish solo scriptura folk that we were examining the growth and history of the old testament not arguing the religious content. but the historical context is so essential to understanding the texts that we have she stressed. this was just after the dead sea scrolls had visited berkeley campus in oakland. the class brought everything into reality.
Overjoyed for the Five part new Series
on Genesis☆ Thanks for announcing the
Five topics☆ God bless each one of the viewers and listeners☆☆☆☆☆
Thanks Bishop Barron.
Thank you very much for your great video.. really useful dear father...
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What a wonderful explanation of the Book of Genius, our Creator God, and mankind's relationship to God, creation and to the Earth. Bishop Barron is such a wonderful teacher and servant of God! Thank you so much!!
Rosary also has true power to heal, protect and save souls on Earth and in purgatory.
Thank you for sharing this Word on Fire on the Creation story on Genesis Bishop Robert Barron 🙏
Love that you're doing this episode, Bishop and Mr. Vogt! Thank you, both !
Great dialogue, no doubt.
I've always love the story of creation because it shows the Unselfishness of God.He didn't have to create this world and everything in it, but he did.
He savored/enjoyed the beauty of all his creations, but that's also the sad part when the Serpent destroyed that " savoring moment".It made me sad whenever I meditate on this part because after enjoying/savoring the greatness of his work, the hard and painful work awaits.....to become one of what he created and suffered in the very hands of his creations.Just heartbreaking! :(
Love all your explanation , Bishop and looking forward to part 2 of this Genesis discussion.
Thankfully,
Linda Worsham
As a Christian I have done hours upon hours of research on this, and while this view on creation makes the most sense, my remaining question that I cannot seems to find answer to is regarding the geneology/ancestry mentioned in first 2 books of Bible. If Genesis is largely allegorical then wouldn't that make the ancestry lines mentioned throughout it (Noah, Abraham) erroneous? And if so, what would this mean for the New Testament and the ancestry of Jesus?
I struggle with this indeed
These are my same exact thoughts! Please share if you come to any realizations or understandings. I'm trying to reconcile this in my head.
Thank you Bishop Barron.
When reading the Bible, we need to know the genre, the sense, the language, the time it was written, the culture, etc
And when reading Genesis, the LITERAL sense makes the most sense.
Have tried other senses --- metaphorical, allegorical, etc but it's the literal sense that really gets all the tick marks.
You are correct. Reading it in the original language tells you everything. Do you see the Father in the first verse? How about the Spirit? Even Jesus is there. The Hebrew is very descriptive. Your comment is wise and should be fully endorsed. TBTG!
You are a Blessed Bishop for all times and people, transparent scripture needed so desperately in today’s world. Deo Gratias
Genesis leaves you with a flat earth, where the stars and sun revolve around the earth, where the existence of dinosaurs was completely ignored, and where the earth is only 6000 years old.
The Big Bang and evolution are far better explanations for the creation of our universe. They have provided humans with much more than a story to believe. For instance evolution has provided medications and medical treatments that save lives. How hypocritical are people who use these discoveries brought about through understanding the Big Bang and evolution, yet claim these things aren’t real and state that a magic man created them. The real test is in the pudding. You show me god and I’ll show you evidence of the Big Bang and evolution. I know I can meet my end of the bargain without even trying. Can you say the same thing?
@@stephaniezank7717 Well said Stephanie , top marks to you !
@@stephaniezank7717 But Stephanie, Genesis is a theological text. If I want to know the mechanistic way in which the universe works, I go to the Big Bang theory and evolution. If I want to extract meaning out of the universe, in a moral/ philosophical/theological/sense, I reserve the right to go back to Genesis since science has nothing to say on such matters.
🎼 So great 💯 thank you for guiding us on our path 🌈🌟Praise be to God ✨💪🏼✝️🛡✨ Amen ✨🙏🏼✨
yes amen
Wow, good information here Bishop, thank you. I'm amazed how I recall a sermon from Fr. Chineyne regarding why Catholics go to mass on Sunday.. He said something to the effect that we don't go for God, that God does not need us and simply it is (meaning Sunday Mass) is for our good, the good of mankind and the rest of creation.
You mean "Chinenye".
Sorry, It is Rev. Fr. John Chinenye Oluoma.
@@maremare1655 I like watching Fr. Oluoma's homilies.
@@Lerian_V Wow, you are the first I've come across that recognized his name when I bring it up. I've learned so much from his homilies over the last couple years. God continue to bless him and Bishop Barron.
@@maremare1655 I only knew him from early this year. Since then I have watched quite a lot of his videos.
Excellent.
Thanks!
Melwille knew arguabrly too much about whaling ships :D I made it about half way in and gave up, the musings about the color white was what got me
Thanks for this show. I'm currently reading "And Now I See". So delighted to know it was reprinted.
A fresh look and appreciation of Creation.
I get it even more 🥰 I thank you for this video, it’s extremely enlightening even more ❤️
Dear Bishop Barron,
If I may ask, what do you think about Nahum Sarna studies on the Old Testament and, specifically, on the Pentateuch? I'm asking because I was expecting to find him among your referenced sources.
Best regards,
Marco
The offer is for Canada too? To register at the institute?
I'm getting Jordan Peterson vibes from this new series. I'm excited to see it flourish!
I understand it now
This is so important in the book of Genesis.
I used to believe in millions of years like Hugh Ross
Right now I take the Bible literally six days of creation
Bishop Baron I hope you read this and get connected to these people listed
I would love to hear your comments. Thank you so much Bishop.
dr. Doug Petrovich Genesis creation
Dr. Kurt Wise Noah’s flood
Also Ken Ham answers in Genesis.
Bishop Barron, thank you for this but I also hear your frustration. What if you produce a series on creation similar to the Catholicism series? Just a thought.
Beware of excess studio technology…..you were great when you started.Thankyou for your message
I still miss the homey feel of the small library behind him
@@jesseholthaus8357 If you have the right environment in front of you with a homely feeling , you can listen better and thereby grow in your understanding.
Also to have a library behind you , reveals to me the speaker has a love of learning and is worthy to listen too.
Thank you , Jesse , you have made a very wise statement and should be heeded.
I find that Dr. Doug Petrovich has the correct meaning of genesis chapter 1
Bishop Barron Where can we find the end of this metaphoric saga and the beginning of the actual saga in the Bible?
Can you put these in a playlist so we know the order?
Wake up babe, new Bishop Barron video just dropped
The bible is like my daily horoscopes from the newspaper..it seems to be accurate because it lacks specific examples..very vague and can be interpreted many ways.The bible is the same...amen
God bless bishop Barron..
Do we have to read the Whole Bible in the same way? [ in a metaphoric manner)?
The genre is historical narrative. Evidence includes: the genealogies, the precise dates, "'this is the written record of the generations of Adam (Genesis 5:1)"
@prairie mark Yes. Why would Moses write one book in multiple genres? The Pentateuch, Joshua, I and II Samuel, 1 and II Kings...me thinks it's all wriitten in the same genre of historical narrative.
@prairie mark Billions of years is not proven in biology, geology or astronomy. Scientists make many assumptions; the evidence is inconsistent; there is much unexplained. History is not subject to the scientific method. It is not repeatable. God was there at the beginning. The scientists were not there. Genesis and the The Church have taught Creation for centuries and there's no need to change that now becuase scientists have their extrapolations. Extrapolations can't predict the future and they are inadequate to explain the past.
@@martyfromnebraska1045 What would be your evidence of that? Creation in six days is supernatural; Noah's ark and the global flood is an account of the supernatural. We still have the supernatural happening later in Genesis in the lives of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph. From the start, Genesis is in the genre of reporting about generations. See these references from Genesis: "The generations of heaven and earth" (Gen 2:4); generations of Adam (Gen 4:1); generations of...Noah (6:9); the sons of Noah (10:1); Shem (11:10); Terah (11:27); Isaac (25:19); Jacob (37:2 and extending into his generations in Egypt through the end of Genesis). Moses may have had clay tablets as sources from which to write his historical narrative.
@@martyfromnebraska1045 Genesis 12-50 is the story of Abraham and his family. Genesis 1-11 provide the background info. The supernatural happens daily when bread and wine are consecrated in the Mass to become the Body and Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. The supernatural happens throughout the Book of Genesis. Creation is supernatural. The "Big Bang" is a naturalistic explanation that seeks to replace the supernatural narrative as told in Genesis.
Great comment: Do you believe in the library?
Genesis is in the genre of reporting about generations. See these references from Genesis: "The generations of heaven and earth" (Gen 2:4); generations of Adam (Gen 4:1); generations of...Noah (6:9); the sons of Noah (10:1); Shem (11:10); Terah (11:27); Isaac (25:19); Jacob (37:2 and extending into his generations in Egypt through the end of Genesis).
That was beautiful, your Excellency.
"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."
That could also be understood as space dust. We now know, or believe, that space isn't empty. It has dark matter and dark energy. (That is inter-galactic space, not necessarily the inter-planetary space that we are familiar with.)
"Empty" space is definitely not nothing.
But it was nothing before Creation.
@@brianh8660 no actually it simply didn’t exist.
So tell me what was the starting canvas for your God before he created the universe? Nothing?
Amen
Word.
the problem today is people try to judge the bible with science. what we should be doing is judging science with the bible.
I like the Bishop's insight. I grew up Wisconsin Lutheran church and their stance is that Creation and the Flood are literal. I don't agree. I'm a strong believer in science & history. Whether they are a Priest or Rabi, I am open to hearing their point of view.
Impossible to change them to SOME relativity to the transcendent ? ( Hitchens, et.al.)
A problem that I have with comparing the Bible to other literature is that it encourages people to think that God is just a literary character, and religion is just a fandom of some fiction series.
To not compare would mean we should just believe it because ….. because why? Because God says so? Human beings like benchmark comparisons to put things in context. The problem that I have with believing for it’s own sake is that it diminishes my ability to be curious, and seek to understand. God created our minds to seek truth, and much of scripture requires us to seek and believe in God’s truth especially when we get to an intersection that may not make logical sense and our temporal experience. God is the master narrator, master creator and He knows those of us who truly believe do not categorize Him trivially.
@@lisadelgreco2646 Ok, I phrased it wrong. What I meant to say, id that comparing the Bible to other literature would be placing God on the same level as fictional characters. Therefore, when making a comparison, we should explain where the limits of the analogy is, and when naive comparison becomes misleading.
@@robd8457 Not denying it, but the real question posed by the doubting people is whether God himself is a fiction.
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Is it that some of us are lazy or careless enough not to make some effort, let alone take some trouble to seek out and know.
J.R.R. Tolkien, a practicing Catholic said that the Christian story is a myth, in fact the only true myth. I understand how this might seem off-putting at first, but there is some deep truth in this. The story of Christ might be just a story, but stories are way more important that what modern people think. We now tend to regard "facts" as the building blocks of reality but as Alasdair McIntyre once quipped "facts, like wigs for men are a 17th century invention". Everyday reality is in fact built around stories. Salvation is the blue-print and the justification of all stories
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I think my problem like a lot of people have when both reading or having another conversation with someone again as before to take up the same 2 topics in the basic law of all laws in faith concepts being discussed as before then if in the meantime I have been running off on a tangent when trying to stay focused enough on my numerous set of topmost current goals while remembering only less important details from the last reading session or conversation then when for example when with the same person I am catching up with to be conversing again on the same topic conversation then I end up not taking up the same thread right away to be listening and being truly present in the current conversation while only recalling only unrelated details from the meantime. Then I end up missing the point sometimes altogether about what the current topic of second conversation is for awhile.
The Sabbath is a rest from all evils, the cessation of all wickednesses. This is the main reason it is called a REST.
Why is Sabbath a rest from evils? I don't understand your context.
God ceased from his work on the seventh day and set it apart.
@@wills7817 Hi, Thank you for asking.
Though the Bible is an esoteric text, however, it is also a self-explanatory book. If you cannot find the answer to a particular verse you will find it in another chapter of the Bible. This is the main reason we must have “eyes to see” and “ears to hear.”
Here the prophet Isaiah gives us the definition of the Sabbath,
Isaiah 56:2 “Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and keeps his hand from doing any evil.”
The Sabbath is the annihilation of ALL evil; the silencing of Satan and his fallen angels, the wrestling against the evil Sons of God in the Second Heaven, and the destruction of the Giants Nephilim on earth, and our flesh or carnal wisdom and understanding, and a complete renunciation of the fallen system of this world. THE SABBATH IS ONGOING.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SATAN & HIS FALLEN ANGELS IN GENESIS 1:2, THE OTHER FALLEN ANGELS IN GENESIS 6, THEIR GIANT NEPHILIM OFFSPRINGS, AND THE EX-SONS OF GOD IN DEUTERONOMY 32:8
THIS IS HOW WE TACKLE SATAN AND HIS FALLEN ANGELS (GENESIS 1:2)
Additionally, we continue to apply James 4:7 to our lives, “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
GIANTS AND GIANT NEPHILIM (GENESIS 6)
In Genesis 6, 200 myriads archangels decided to illegally cross over their sphere of authority from the Third Heaven to come to the earth, for the purpose of mingling and procreating with humans, a highly forbidden activity. Archangels + humans = birthed Giants. Giants + humans = birthed Giant Nephilim. These archangels are locked in Tartarus. God released the flood to annihilate these Giants and the Giant Nephilim. Indeed, they all died in the flood, but their spirits or diembodied spirits remained. They are not locked, in fact, their disembodied spirits are still among us. We call them demons. The God-given mandate to the Church is to devote them to utter destruction, cherem. In the Gospels, these are the demons Jesus was removing from people. They look for humans because they were once hafl human, and half angels.
EX-SONS OF GOD OR EX-DIVINE COUNCIL (DEUTERONOMY 32:8)
God appointed real archangels or a Divine Council over the nations as watchers-overseers.
Deuteronomy 32:8 When the Most High divided the nations, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the nations according to the number of the angels of God.
God appointed them after the confusion and dispersion of the nations at Babel. Unfortunately, these good angels rebelled and became bad fallen angels because diverted the nations to worship them, instead of God, therefore, they were banished from the Third Heaven, and relocated to the Second Heaven. These are the ones mentioned in Ephesians 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
The position of the Church is to pray and ask God for spiritual reinforcement-that is; to send the good archangels to tackle the evil Sons of God in the Second Heaven. We should never try to access their territory to attack them. We are meant to wrestle against them and ask God for help. The big mighty angels arrest their evil work in the earth. (See Daniel chapters 9 and 10)
THE SABBATH REST
The Sabbath rest is an ongoing activity. It is not a ONE DAY affair. We keep arresting evil until it is completely eradicated. This is what it means to observe the true Sabbath.
I will explain the Sabbath in detail if you ask.
Be vigilant. Blessings.
I Saw the procession after My death kind of deluge where i was helping people to scape up mountains cause all was down water or mud no house up or mountains few only as Airport
@Bishop Robert Barron Please support Church Militant’s conference in Baltimore. Are you among the few that will stand to stop the silence among your peers regarding the abuse within the clergy?
Oh, I don't know, Bishop. Resting in a hammock for all eternity sounds pretty good to me some days. Rest in peace, as they say. 😊
I expected a great rumbling in the comments. Not as bad as I thought
The Virgin told me pray for that people where i'm since 8 years old Ambo
God’s power is not something we can always understand He can do anything any way He wants.Created the universe,as He pleases,we are called to believe,trust the Creator,simple faith.
So Saint Francis of Asís get in LOVE from God!
Thank you thank you. Bishop's explanation is so inspiring. I never understand that deep. "God rested on the 7th day is to savor the good... " If I follow Jesus on earth, I also like to take rest to savor / taste the good's around me. How much joy it is . Thank you once again. God bless.
Don't take much for you, do it?
The Bible Project podcast is doing a series now on a similar topic! They even make a reference to Moby Dick. I think the good Bishop is listening t the same.
Maybe, but I have CDs of (then) Father Barron's sermons from 20 years ago in which he refers to Moby Dick.
Rest in the good...possessed...we are restless till we rest in thee...Dante understood this..and conveyed this .well.
My reality relies exclusively on the success of families
So many questions and comments, but the best thing here is that the channel posters do not respond to anyone's comments or questions.
It's hard to comprehend also that believers believe the world was created in seven days. What amazes me is that the writers of Genesis nailed the sequence of creation. Yes, God created everything, but He/She may have taken billions of (human) years.
It blows my mind that believers can’t believe what they can’t wrap their minds around or that God couldn’t have done it.
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Blessed Mother's warnings are real?
Does God expect people to understand the theological saga or poetry to get his message? Or do we all have to take a Ph.D in Bible to understand it? God could have conveyed his message in the simplest and the shortest way.
Fulton Sheen of our time
Commenting on the mention of Yuri Gagarin (Russian cosmonaut and first man in space) at 11:43, it's my understanding that he was actually a devout Orthodox Christian and he never actually said "I went to space and saw no god," but rather he had a deeply spiritual experience in space and how he is quoted was actually just Russian propaganda
Thanks Bishop,
Before the age of modern science, people would take Genesis quite literally (I believe), but with better scientific discoveries and understanding of the world around us we could construct a model of the development of the universe, the planets, the earth, life, etc. in a different light. Is it because of the modern understanding of science that prompts us to emphasize the real genre and theological purposes of Genesis? Or has it been the original purpose of the book since the beginning?
Even from before the scientific discoveries, theologians were emphasising the spiritual meaning over the literal. Eg. Origen.
@@thyikmnnnn I suppose
@@thyikmnnnn Origen would also have believed both it being literal , but most important the spiritual meaning behind it
Bishop, just wanted to share for any thoughts you may have on Venerable Sister Mary of Agreda, a seventeenth-century Spanish nun in her book “The Mystical City of God” on her account of Creation. She received many visions of heaven and the afterlife (she also reportedly bilocated) and says that at Creation, as told in Genesis, the earth was created with space for hell and purgatory in the middle of it, with the middle of the earth indeed full of fiery molten rock and lava. And at the moment God said “let there be light” there was the creation of the angels endowed with beauty, intellect, will, and numerous other graces, and mentions other fascinating details about Mary, and Adam & Eve, in her account.
And it sure doesn't include evolution does it? Yet most Catholics wouldn't even believe her account, her say we have to "read it in the right genre" as Bishop Barron says. It is heart breaking that Catholic theologians and intellectuals will try to say God used evolution to make man and all living creatures. As if God's creation which he made was "good" to include billions of years of absolute death and destruction in a horrible and brutal darwinist process to create man. Does that seem like how Jesus Christ would create to you? God is a loving Creator who creates ex nilo out of nothing, a perfect Universe. Evolution, as supported by most Catholics, makes a mockery of the goodness of God. Tell me God is a good God who made cancer, death, and horrible suffering? All of which is required for evolution. Because he didn't, these things are a result of the Fall and man's sin. This is the literal view of Genesis that actually maintains the goodness of God and is the 100% historical view of Church Fathers.
Wonderful as Dragón ball and his spheres
one of the main reasons i have a problem with genesis is that it positions god outside of the universe, but then deeply concerned with the particularities of the universe. i don't understand how an infinite being can care about the particulars of a finite being. it makes sense for the greek and roman pantheons to care about worldly events, because they have to live in the world. it makes sense for people to care about the world for the same reason. that reason does not extend to some sort of primal force responsibile for all things, good and evil.
As a child it is fascinating, I remember.
Thanks for the presentation. One question? Why is the Catholic Church so indifferent in producing really good Study Bibles! I am Catholic but use the Crossway ESV Study Bible due to the Catholic faith having nothing as well designed available for it's congregation. This is even more frustrating considering the fact that the Roman Catholic Church is the oldest and largest Christian denomination. Thanks.
@Ubi Fides thanks, but I am searching for a complete Catholic study bible OT & NT. I am yet to find a Catholic study bible that comes close to Crossway's ESV: it has extensive notes, charts, diagrams, maps throughout and articles on Christian faiths and other World faiths, etc. In using it one must be aware of theological differences in faith with Catholicism but to their credit they acknowledge the Catholic view but disagree.
@@jezamania The Great Adventure Study Bible by Ascension is a great one
@@jezamania, there are 3 editions you can find for sale on the internet, The Jerome Biblical Commentary, The New Jerome Biblical Commentary, and The Jerome Biblical Commentary for the 21st Century. While not study Bibles, they are the best for research. The New American Bible has introductions and commentary included but not like the Jerome Commentaries.
All very well, but! We know that the Earth came into being after a very long (9 billion year) process of progressive manufacture of elements in the interiors of big stars (stellar nucleosynthesis) (and we see those same processes at work in our galaxy today) . So is the Bishop saying that Gn1:1 encompasses that whole history? And if he is then how is he able to interpret his ex nihilo event to mean billions of years of elemental evolution?
Not to take away anything Bishop Barron said on God resting in creation. It was said in ancient times that the pagan gods rested in their temples. God resting in creation shows us that the whole creation is His temple. God does not need humans to build Him a temple, as is the case with the pagan gods. See Acts 7:48-50
“However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says:
‘Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.
What house will you build for Me? says the Lord,
Or what is the place of My rest?
Has My hand not made all these things?’
What genre are the gospels ?
Ancient biography.
@@BishopBarron Thanks :) I'd love to hear you talk in more detail about the difference between Ancient and Modern Biography. It seems to be such a sticking point for the "nones" these days. It's difficult to evangelize a culture that is stuck between the dualism of "just a story" and "journalistic truth".
@@dancarmen9994 The Gospel is the biography of the Good news Jesus proclaimed and Himself AS THAT good news.
A biography by any definition would have his height , his stature , his nationality , the food he ate , his hobbies , about his upbringing etc
The Gospel means good news and centers on good news and proclaims Jesus as the revelation of the good news about God and his relationship with humanity.
Dr. Peter Hugh Ross has explained the Genesis creation account in perfect scientific account. I find his interpretation of Genesis creation is so mind blowing. It is so very scientific in it's every detail. He explains from the Bible that a day mentioned in creation account does not mean 24 hour day since the sun and moon does not appear until later. (Note: the creation account is decribed from the man's view point of location. That is, from the surface of the Earth. We see that sun and moon appear later in the sky after the scientific process of condensation of the atmosphere which makes the sun and moon visible from the earth surface and so on....)
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Thankyou Bishop & word on fire for your wonderful ministry. Bishop have you listened to Astrophysicist Dr Hugh Ross’s commentary on the bible as revealing scientific truth? His witness as a Christian scientist is amazing - very compelling& is leading many people to explore Christianity Have you ever mentioned him in any of your talks? God bless you & WOF ministries🙏🏼
Very nice explanation. But all cannot understand.