I think Bishop barron is one of the best Bishops I have ever found with deepest biblical knowledge. There is no doubt that Christianity and missionaries played a crucial role in many countries. I guess half of the worlds population have been uplifted in socially, culturally, economically by the missionaries.
Somewhere I read that to help me forgive, I should ask God to Bless the person, who did me wrong. I have done so, now, even when I am in traffic, and someone bugs me, I say: God, bless him, his wife and his whole family, and I feel free.
This works every time. Even where the load of unforgiveness seems too heavy to bear, just surrendering to God and asking him to help you to forgive makes a huge difference
I think Violet here means a flower, and the point is that stomping on this flower makes your foot smell nice, and in the same way the trespassed forgiving the trespasser can have a beautiful effect on the trespass itself.
When I found myself incapable of forgiving someone who had hurt me deeply, my priest introduced me to the Divine Mercy Chaplet (in Spanish “Coronilla de la Divina Misericordia). I thought it would be impossible to forgive, but with God everything is possible. I was able to forgive, felt a huge weight off my shoulders …the cross did not feel as heavy anymore) Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for your abundant mercy 🙏🏼
A thought which came to me was that I am my own enemy not to the other but to myself if I don't foregive. Not forgiving is like developing many. I am free to forgive through Christ on the cross.
My husband and I have a situation with years of history that we have been unable to resolve despite counseling and so many prayers. With Bishop Barron's suggestion that we leave the past behind, I will begin today to move forward with my husband.
I personally get alot from him. I think of the rose window. I get it. Thank God for him, as to others, I say just this, who are you to judge? Thank God, we have a priest who so believes and shares his faith.
Thank you Bishop Baron for elaborating on this topic. Forgiveness is a habit not a feeling. If God in your most wretched state forgave your transgressions who are you but a mere mortal not to forgive. ✝️
I had struggled to reconcile with the Church as an entity in my efforts to return to Catholicism. Ultimately I had an epiphany and realized I needed to forgive the Church its sins if I want forgiveness for my sins. Matthew 6:14.
This clip addressed two perhaps of my most fundamental issues with navigating my perception of the faith and navigating life day to day. I'm inept at forgiveness, and appreciate the value of understanding 'Forgiveness' on a fundamentally Christian level. Additionally - as a Catholic convert, raised in emotionally driven and contrare to reason Charismatic and Protestant Christianity, I was asked my entire childhood "Do you feel His Presence?" and "Do you believe in Jesus?" My intellectual answer would be "Yes, but I have questions of reason to the second one." And on the first question I would be moot, because I didn't actually feel emotionally what i was being asked all of the time. This clip answers why i don't feel emotionally charged all of the time what I thought was the delimiting element of being a genuine believer in Christ, and due to the trauma that I and a countless multitude of us suffered as children being raised in an imperfect world (original sin, anyone? Who is to blame (Forgiveness..?)) - Due to that sense of injustice, I have been practically lost while not trying to be on the issue of forgiveness - And due to Brandon's and Bishop Barons articulation, am able to bracket the role of practicing Christianity (Y'all need to write Books on discerning the perception of emotions and navigating day to day decisions and life). Praise the Lord, my Homies!
To some degree that can make sense for most situations through my understanding that God is all knowing and new us before we were formed my understanding years god placed me in the care of a paedophile but will refuse to forgive me if I don't forgive and love them how can anyone love let alone for give a kid fucker sorry for the blunt words but how the person has an issue and seeks help before harming a child I would shake their hand and praise them for their efforts to save children from their potential future actions but once that act has been committed especially to that person's own children how are the children expected to forgive don't forgive and love the person their own parent potentially like in my case why do they deserve to burn in a fire because of God's viewing forgiveness as a debt this is how it sounds to me sorry for breaking your cup Chris it's ok Cathy I'll forgive you if you forgive Jennifer for killing your children forgive others if you want to be forgiven yourself does the proportion sound fair that's the problem I have with forgiveness I have two forever be fine and never angry with this person walking around with positive memories of my traumatic experience never to take issue with it again especially not confront them and it drives me insane has God ever been raped does he know the experience to comment you must forgive Jesus wasn't raped it would make for an interesting Bible story seeing him forgive that if I ever happened to him but he had a blessed protected childhood and I'm not going to say good for him he's lucky he had what I never had blah blah blah but commanding I love and forgive the person is disgusting it breaks me to my very core I'm never having children because if they got raped I would never love and forgive the abuser let alone now in my situation currently God will not forgive me until I'm able to forgive my father and it's disgusting god according to the Bible witnessed my trauma funny thing is I didn't even understand what that was until a few years later that's when the emotions truly hit my emotions are irrelevant love and forgive or else and that's my current grievance with God along with him in neighbouring the pain and suffering please look up the term in labelling because I get people that say god didn't cause this suffering which is why I use the term enabled
“Where you stumble, that is where you dig for treasure.” That helped to clarify so much of my personal frustration with myself and my continued failures and weaknesses that accompany me into the confessional frequently.
Praying for us to own up to the fact , Jesus wanted us to follow him and say those exact words in intercession for our brothers and sisters and friends, and even our enemies. I struggle so much to live within the path of truth. God didn't want to make it easy, but that's ok. My point is that if God sent his own Holy Son to die for me and He trusted ,in a sense ,I would follow , forgive and be another Jesus I should be honored and He will give me the ability to walk the walk.
It is not easy to forgive someone try to kill you! But with God ‘s grace (with the fifteen years of prayer for forgive this person ). I have done that and I feel God ‘s tremendous love and mercy for me and also for the person that offense me. Thank you Jesus! And Bishop Barron!
Dear Bishop Barron: Your Grace, What splendour there is in the eloquence which adorns your manifestation of what IS SO IMPORTANT in Being CHRISTIAN... "FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO"...imagine!!...from the agony of (on??)The Cross!!!
Thank you for the reminder. We all have someone in our life we need to forgive and put it behind us, quit hanging onto the past because it will Not change. Pray as you said for our enemies and family. Have a blessed weekend. ❤
A deep study of the Catechism revealed a sense of culpability in myself and others. As I became more self-aware of my own, I see it in others who are not self-aware. This culpability can only be judged by God, as some suffer from circumstances beyond their control or self-awareness. Knowing this allows passion to grow for others for their shortcomings, as I ask for forgiveness for my own. Talking about these things brings common knowledge, unity & forgiveness, we hope. God Bless, Your Excellency.
I learned something recently from the book The Power of Silence (pg 218) that taught me everything I need to know about forgiveness. My apologies if this is mentioned in the video. The quote is as follows: Dysmas de Lassus: I would simply like to recall a story. One issue of the magazine Cahiers sur l'Oraison [Notebooks on Prayer] reports that before leaving for the gas chamber, a Jew wrote on a slip of paper: "Lord, remember also the men of ill will, but do not remember then their cruelties. Remember the fruits that we have borne because of what they did. And grant, Lord, that the fruits that we have borne may one day be their redemption."
She is Protestant and Joyce Meyers a televangelist's ministry on forgiveness is compelling. I'm Orthodox and I love her for her preaching on forgiveness.
I became Catholic 4 years ago, after 6 decades of life. I found out in RCIA that the concepts I had about Catholicism were so far away from what is the truth. You said that people are taking what they know of Christianity from headlines & caricatures. I believe that is what's happening. When I think of how I used to live, I feel sorry for anyone who will not open their minds to the truth.
This was especially important to me. Letting go when it was so painful. My husband's family blamed me for my beloved's death. It was absolutely malevolent. It has been very difficult to forgive. I pray about it a lot...especially for my inability to let it completely go.
I took my sixth grade class of Faith Formation for Children through the Creed by Bishop Robert Barron. This series and the series on Catholicism kept their attention while they were logging in to our Zoom sessions. Thank you for letting me share this with the class. Without fail, they were spontaneously expressing their enthusiasm for having the opportunity to watch these inspiring series. Often, there were times some didn't seem to want it to end, they were so engrossed.
What an important and profound insight, that the purpose of Christianity is for the world, as salt that has not left its savor! And perhaps the true salt is forgiving even as also we have been forgiven. What a glorious goal in Christ to prayerfully strive for!
Oh my God...I can't believe how necessary this consideration, for me, is!!! I pray that steadfastness is ,my creed when approaching others, because sometimes it may become easy to revert back to the battle if the recipient is not ready to reconcile. God bless us all!!!
I don't have too much of a problem with "forgiving" but it's the subsequent relationship thats the issue. There are many people that I interact with (at work, family) that I have forgiven but afterwards I keep them at a distance. At first I thought it was because I didn't REALLY forgive them, but no, it's not that. I understand that everyone is on their own journey and doing their best, etc..... I think rather that it's because I am very careful with who I trust and confide in. And when someone "wrongs" me significantly, I keep a distance. I pray for them and forgive them. But the "close" relationship is lost. This has led to very few good friends. But I'm ok with that. I would feel like a fake otherwise.
I understand! I’ve been married into a really dysfunctional, narcissistic family. 36 yrs of pain. Took me all this time to understand the mental illness. I see them for what they are, and they can’t hurt me anymore…but boy, the residual side/effects of the last 3 decades…no contact helps. 😮😢
I used to think I had to "feel" as if forgiveness happened or else it meant I was doing it wrong. Thank you Bishop Barron for the clarification. I needed to hear that on a day, when I needed to practice forgiveness. I am sure the Lord has a wonderful sense of humor, because your podcast popped up right before I had my encounter.
I recall, perhaps Father Dubay from Catholic Univ. of America, said the largest obstacle to spiritual growth and human flourishing is unforgiveness. This topic is much needed. Throughout Latin America I am persuaded that the demons and assaults on many of the countries comes from lack of forgiveness and inability to move forward in God's grace.
Thank you for Words on Fire sharing Bishop Barron's reflections on forgiveness. Be assured that your reaching out beyond Catholicism to those of us who are outliers, listening what is going on inside values these words on fire. You offer not just personal salvation, but salvation beyond our narcissistic selves to, hopefully, the entire planet. Blessings.
Thank you Bishop for this lecture/sermon. I definitely needed to hear this. Also, our society needs to renew the practice of forgiveness. I know it is easier said than done.
I think discussions on this topic are always lacking when they don't touch on the topic of ongoing one-sided mistreatment. What does forgiveness look like when the other party is unrepentent and the injured party has every reason to believe that any 'reconciliation' would result in reinstating the cycle of abuse? Love so much of what was said here. Really well thought out. Just would like to see this aspect addressed.
Great Presentation. Having God's perspective on all situations will help so much to move through the toughest of times. I so want my tombstone to say he was a man of forgiveness. God bless you for your guidence.
Forgiveness….so much easier said than done. Thank you Bishop Baron for this episode. Very helpful and insightful direction towards reconciliation Issues. Prayers for spiritual continual direction.
Thank you Bishop Barron and Brendan. This has helped me especially in your advice on what to do when the anger or hurt is still raw even though in my mind I have already forgiven that person. Pray! And do something, however small but do it! 😇🙏🔥God bless!
Suppose it was mutially discussion and both sides offended the other. And one forgives but the other does not. The issues i have I forgive but I do not want to renew the friendship, I want after forgiving forgeting. Not worth it.
There’s someone in my past that I bless as my personal devotion to Jesus. And it may make you laugh but every once in a while I say, Lord bless him and keep him … far away from me. Sometimes that is the best I can do at that very minute. Our Lady helps us when we’re too tired.
Thank you! Interesting facts on this huge topic. However, in my case, I disagree with "People forgive when they know they have been forgiven." There are different levels of offenses. People fractured me so deeply and what they took from me, can never be restored. Moreover, only looking and moving forward while healing from childhood trauma and being triggered on a daily basis is not really easy. In order to heal trauma, survivors need to go back and confront the past.
Hi Bishop, thanks for playing and answering my question. My own most annoying passage in Scripture is Matthew7 v21-3. If at the Pearly Gates Jesus were to say that to me I hope I'd have time to say well thanks for waiting till now to tell me I'm getting it all wrong, before the trapdoors open and I disappear down to the deepest pit of Hell. Cheerz DECLAN
, This is the most informative talk I frequently need to listen to- realizing when I’m back to this again I missed something,or thought I had moved on. Thanks for your insights. Gods not finished with me yet.
I'm watching this again. It has SO much wisdom. Also, the question from the English gent & your response. I too have always considered that God gave poor Job a "non answer"!
This episode helped me understand my self better. It helped me apply forgiveness to the deep, unseen corners of my life. Thank you, it was very cleansing. And thank you for your prayers, they helped me learn a deeper meaning of forgiveness. God Bless! And keep up the good work. ❤
Thank You sincerely for all you do to help everyone become closer to God by understanding our faith….I really Loved your answer to the viewer’s question and find it ironic because I actually watched your video on Utube which you commented on the book of Job which was nothing less than phenomenal!!!! - Thanks again and God Bless
A very good talk about seeking forgiveness and how we know when we have done wrong. You are right. It's a moral judgement and obligation and not a feeling. It's so Important to have a sensitive conscience.
You are not a Christian for yourself but for the world… Lord Jesus Christ Son of the Living God have mercy on me. Thank you, Bishop Barron for sharing. God bless you.🙏🏼
Forgiveness doesn't require contacting the offender if harm would result. We can still forgive the person, the action is ours. Forgiveness doesn't require the offender's response.
There are different ways to express forgiveness, without reestablishing a relationship. Non-verbal body language, not intentionally avoiding the other person, not avoiding circles where the other travels, etc. Peace can begin with a smile, or a kind wave, even if at a distance. Don’t wait, take opportunities to say “I forgive you, even though I have moved on.” You are bearing the burden of wearing your Christianity for the world, not for yourself.
That is a great question. I think that you can still forgive, while also being safe and not having contact with the person. That can be the case in an abusive relationship where it is best for the person being abused not to have contact or be in contact with the abuser, but you can still forgive them. I see it as letting go of the pain and the hurt the other might have caused you. It is about honoring self and honoring other.. Forgiveness does not mean to condone, but it is about healing and letting go. To not forgiving is to have resentment. Resentment is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die.
I was in an abusive relationship and part of my healing was that when God forgives us, He also *reconciles* (hence reconciliation) which means bringing us back together/to Him. When humans forgive, there is no demand that we also reconcile. We simply cannot always reconcile but we work to forgive. So I pray for my abuser but i get a lot of peace from the fact that I can work to forgive him without ever even needing to be in contact again. I hope that helps answer your question
Although you presented this almost a year ago, I just recently watched/listened to it & was greatly impressed. Also, I forwarded it to my Twitter site, & just discovered today that there were 3 "likes" + comments by others on twitter who may not be Catholic, but very spiritual (from my observations of their posts) + 1 rather (!) political. The general tone was that you hit a vulnerable nerve & they were appreciative of your message. I too, agree. Thank you both, Mr. Vogt & Bishop Barron.
The heart of this conversation begins at 21:40. "As Christians, forgiveness is always our job." Bishop Barron then goes on to describe the importance of letting go of our tendency to blame our "enemies" for the situation we are in, while at the same time offering them a perfunctory form of "forgiveness." Good start. Let's imagine a world in which all Christians actually practiced this with regard to all Christians. I don't think Jesus died on the cross so that we believers could separate ourselves into "Denominations, and even synods, etc. within Denominations!" I listen to what is said, but I believe what people do. Can we Christians actually reconcile with one another? If we can, there is no limit to the good that will follow. If we can't, we will continue to hide in our defensive little badger holes, hanging on to our petty theological differences, most of which have little or nothing to do with what Jesus is about.
This is my special focus for Lent. I have a family member who has been trying to bully me into suicide for almost 2 years now. Because I am disabled & chronically ill, I’m forced to put up with it. She pulls some stunt almost every week which causes problems for me or at the very least ribs me if my peace & joy. I’ve got to learn to not care & turn it over to Jesus because if not, I’m going to have a stroke or something. Pray that I get to the point spiritually where I want to forgive because I’m filled with the live of Christ instead of just wanting to forgive for myself.
Forgiveness, ugh. My "favorite" subject as it is one of the hardest (or already the hardest) Church teachings I'm struggling to apply. Having an historian mentality (the ability to remember things long time ago) didn't help towards forgiveness, though obviously not complaining I can still remember them. I'll take this two-part episode as an improvised reference and seminar. I'll probably play this many times, jot notes until hopefully sinks in to current level of faith and reason. Ultimately, to put it into consistent practice as if it is an instinct. "Lord Jesus, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
This is excellent. However, often it seems, that forgiveness is interpreted at tolerance. I forgive the lying, judgmental , murderous person, but they still continue their vices and think my forgiveness is quaint.
I think Bishop barron is one of the best Bishops I have ever found with deepest biblical knowledge. There is no doubt that Christianity and missionaries played a crucial role in many countries. I guess half of the worlds population have been uplifted in socially, culturally, economically by the missionaries.
Somewhere I read that to help me forgive, I should ask God to Bless the person, who did me wrong. I have done so, now, even when I am in traffic, and someone bugs me, I say: God, bless him, his wife and his whole family, and I feel free.
So weird that it works… but it works every time
This way You forgive constantly, and it doesn't have a hold on You.
This works every time. Even where the load of unforgiveness seems too heavy to bear, just surrendering to God and asking him to help you to forgive makes a huge difference
I’m not there yet … I need to practice
@@pacibaco This is practice: here, on earth, I think:
"Forgiveness is the fragrance that the Violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it."
- MARK TWAIN
Great quote!
I dont get it
I think Violet here means a flower, and the point is that stomping on this flower makes your foot smell nice, and in the same way the trespassed forgiving the trespasser can have a beautiful effect on the trespass itself.
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When I found myself incapable of forgiving someone who had hurt me deeply, my priest introduced me to the Divine Mercy Chaplet (in Spanish “Coronilla de la Divina Misericordia). I thought it would be impossible to forgive, but with God everything is possible. I was able to forgive, felt a huge weight off my shoulders …the cross did not feel as heavy anymore)
Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for your abundant mercy 🙏🏼
A thought which came to me was that I am my own enemy not to the other but to myself if I don't foregive. Not forgiving is like developing many. I am free to forgive through Christ on the cross.
I love the Divine Mercy chaplet, very powerful 🙏🙏
My husband and I have a situation with years of history that we have been unable to resolve despite counseling and so many prayers. With Bishop Barron's suggestion that we leave the past behind, I will begin today to move forward with my husband.
God bless your journey 🙏
"There is no peace without justice. There is no justice without forgiveness." - Saint Pope JP2
I believe Bishop Robert Barron knows how to forgive all those nasty comments against him online. He’s someone who lives out his beliefs!
I hear you 😢. We as Christians do need to be forgiven.
I personally get alot from him. I think of the rose window. I get it. Thank God for him, as to others, I say just this, who are you to judge? Thank God, we have a priest who so believes and shares his faith.
I am glad you all make these videos about subjects that effect everyday people. The things we commonly struggle with as humans. THANK YOU
I like that. Regardless who caused the harm - it ends here with me and it ends here with forgiveness.
Have mercy on Us sinners amen
"Let's move forward". This is what our present society needs. Thank You Bishop Barron
Thank you Bishop Baron for elaborating on this topic. Forgiveness is a habit not a feeling. If God in your most wretched state forgave your transgressions who are you but a mere mortal not to forgive. ✝️
Forgive us our trespasses As we forgive those who trespass against us! I pry daily when I pray The Lord Prayer 🙏 Amén ✝️
Think of what forgiveness cost Jesus. It will never cost me that much. Take the first step. Don’t wait for feelings. ❤ Thanks Bishop Barron
I had struggled to reconcile with the Church as an entity in my efforts to return to Catholicism.
Ultimately I had an epiphany and realized I needed to forgive the Church its sins if I want forgiveness for my sins. Matthew 6:14.
This clip addressed two perhaps of my most fundamental issues with navigating my perception of the faith and navigating life day to day. I'm inept at forgiveness, and appreciate the value of understanding 'Forgiveness' on a fundamentally Christian level. Additionally - as a Catholic convert, raised in emotionally driven and contrare to reason Charismatic and Protestant Christianity, I was asked my entire childhood "Do you feel His Presence?" and "Do you believe in Jesus?" My intellectual answer would be "Yes, but I have questions of reason to the second one." And on the first question I would be moot, because I didn't actually feel emotionally what i was being asked all of the time.
This clip answers why i don't feel emotionally charged all of the time what I thought was the delimiting element of being a genuine believer in Christ, and due to the trauma that I and a countless multitude of us suffered as children being raised in an imperfect world (original sin, anyone? Who is to blame (Forgiveness..?)) - Due to that sense of injustice, I have been practically lost while not trying to be on the issue of forgiveness - And due to Brandon's and Bishop Barons articulation, am able to bracket the role of practicing Christianity (Y'all need to write Books on discerning the perception of emotions and navigating day to day decisions and life).
Praise the Lord, my Homies!
If God continually forgives me of the sins I’ve committed against him, how can I deny forgiveness to those who have wronged me?
To some degree that can make sense for most situations through my understanding that God is all knowing and new us before we were formed my understanding years god placed me in the care of a paedophile but will refuse to forgive me if I don't forgive and love them how can anyone love let alone for give a kid fucker sorry for the blunt words but how the person has an issue and seeks help before harming a child I would shake their hand and praise them for their efforts to save children from their potential future actions but once that act has been committed especially to that person's own children how are the children expected to forgive don't forgive and love the person their own parent potentially like in my case why do they deserve to burn in a fire because of God's viewing forgiveness as a debt this is how it sounds to me sorry for breaking your cup Chris it's ok Cathy I'll forgive you if you forgive Jennifer for killing your children forgive others if you want to be forgiven yourself does the proportion sound fair that's the problem I have with forgiveness I have two forever be fine and never angry with this person walking around with positive memories of my traumatic experience never to take issue with it again especially not confront them and it drives me insane has God ever been raped does he know the experience to comment you must forgive Jesus wasn't raped it would make for an interesting Bible story seeing him forgive that if I ever happened to him but he had a blessed protected childhood and I'm not going to say good for him he's lucky he had what I never had blah blah blah but commanding I love and forgive the person is disgusting it breaks me to my very core I'm never having children because if they got raped I would never love and forgive the abuser let alone now in my situation currently God will not forgive me until I'm able to forgive my father and it's disgusting god according to the Bible witnessed my trauma funny thing is I didn't even understand what that was until a few years later that's when the emotions truly hit my emotions are irrelevant love and forgive or else and that's my current grievance with God along with him in neighbouring the pain and suffering please look up the term in labelling because I get people that say god didn't cause this suffering which is why I use the term enabled
“Where you stumble, that is where you dig for treasure.” That helped to clarify so much of my personal frustration with myself and my continued failures and weaknesses that accompany me into the confessional frequently.
*"Father forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing."*
- JESUS (Luke 23: 34) NRSV
Praying for us to own up to the fact , Jesus wanted us to follow him and say those exact words in intercession for our brothers and sisters and friends, and even our enemies. I struggle so much to live within the path of truth. God didn't want to make it easy, but that's ok.
My point is that if God sent his own Holy Son to die for me and He trusted ,in a sense ,I would follow , forgive and be another Jesus I should be honored and He will give me the ability to walk the walk.
It is not easy to forgive someone try to kill you! But with God ‘s grace (with the fifteen years of prayer for forgive this person ). I have done that and I feel God ‘s tremendous love and mercy for me and also for the person that offense me.
Thank you Jesus! And Bishop Barron!
Dear Bishop Barron: Your Grace, What splendour there is in the eloquence which adorns your manifestation of what IS SO IMPORTANT in Being CHRISTIAN...
"FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO"...imagine!!...from the agony of (on??)The Cross!!!
Thank you for the reminder. We all have someone in our life we need to forgive and put it behind us, quit hanging onto the past because it will Not change. Pray as you said for our enemies and family. Have a blessed weekend. ❤
A deep study of the Catechism revealed a sense of culpability in myself and others. As I became more self-aware of my own, I see it in others who are not self-aware. This culpability can only be judged by God, as some suffer from circumstances beyond their control or self-awareness. Knowing this allows passion to grow for others for their shortcomings, as I ask for forgiveness for my own. Talking about these things brings common knowledge, unity & forgiveness, we hope. God Bless, Your Excellency.
I learned something recently from the book The Power of Silence (pg 218) that taught me everything I need to know about forgiveness. My apologies if this is mentioned in the video. The quote is as follows:
Dysmas de Lassus: I would simply like to recall a story. One issue of the magazine Cahiers sur l'Oraison [Notebooks on Prayer] reports that before leaving for the gas chamber, a Jew wrote on a slip of paper: "Lord, remember also the men of ill will, but do not remember then their cruelties. Remember the fruits that we have borne because of what they did. And grant, Lord, that the fruits that we have borne may one day be their redemption."
She is Protestant and Joyce Meyers a televangelist's ministry on forgiveness is compelling. I'm Orthodox and I love her for her preaching on forgiveness.
I became Catholic 4 years ago, after 6 decades of life. I found out in RCIA that the concepts I had about Catholicism were so far away from what is the truth. You said that people are taking what they know of Christianity from headlines & caricatures. I believe that is what's happening. When I think of how I used to live, I feel sorry for anyone who will not open their minds to the truth.
This was especially important to me. Letting go when it was so painful. My husband's family blamed me for my beloved's death. It was absolutely malevolent. It has been very difficult to forgive. I pray about it a lot...especially for my inability to let it completely go.
Thank you Bishop Barron for another thought provoking lesson. Lord Jesus Christ, son of the living God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
Amen
God bless you BP. Barron.
I took my sixth grade class of Faith Formation for Children through the Creed by Bishop Robert Barron. This series and the series on Catholicism kept their attention while they were logging in to our Zoom sessions. Thank you for letting me share this with the class. Without fail, they were spontaneously expressing their enthusiasm for having the opportunity to watch these inspiring series. Often, there were times some didn't seem to want it to end, they were so engrossed.
What an important and profound insight, that the purpose of Christianity is for the world, as salt that has not left its savor! And perhaps the true salt is forgiving even as also we have been forgiven. What a glorious goal in Christ to prayerfully strive for!
Thanks bishop Robert Barron - for going to the basics of christianity!
Oh my God...I can't believe how necessary this consideration, for me, is!!! I pray that steadfastness is ,my creed when approaching others, because sometimes it may become easy to revert back to the battle if the recipient is not ready to reconcile. God bless us all!!!
What a wisdom of words. This is exactly what i need
We need to pray for all people with the scrumptious love of God!
I don't have too much of a problem with "forgiving" but it's the subsequent relationship thats the issue. There are many people that I interact with (at work, family) that I have forgiven but afterwards I keep them at a distance. At first I thought it was because I didn't REALLY forgive them, but no, it's not that. I understand that everyone is on their own journey and doing their best, etc..... I think rather that it's because I am very careful with who I trust and confide in. And when someone "wrongs" me significantly, I keep a distance. I pray for them and forgive them. But the "close" relationship is lost. This has led to very few good friends. But I'm ok with that. I would feel like a fake otherwise.
I understand! I’ve been married into a really dysfunctional, narcissistic family. 36 yrs of pain. Took me all this time to understand the mental illness. I see them for what they are, and they can’t hurt me anymore…but boy, the residual side/effects of the last 3 decades…no contact helps. 😮😢
I used to think I had to "feel" as if forgiveness happened or else it meant I was doing it wrong. Thank you Bishop Barron for the clarification. I needed to hear that on a day, when I needed to practice forgiveness. I am sure the Lord has a wonderful sense of humor, because your podcast popped up right before I had my encounter.
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I recall, perhaps Father Dubay from Catholic Univ. of America, said the largest obstacle to spiritual growth and human flourishing is unforgiveness. This topic is much needed. Throughout Latin America I am persuaded that the demons and assaults on many of the countries comes from lack of forgiveness and inability to move forward in God's grace.
Thank you for Words on Fire sharing Bishop Barron's reflections on forgiveness. Be assured that your reaching out beyond Catholicism to those of us who are outliers, listening what is going on inside values these words on fire. You offer not just personal salvation, but salvation beyond our narcissistic selves to, hopefully, the entire planet. Blessings.
Thank you Bishop Barron 🙏❤️ God bless you always 🕊️✝️
Thank you for bringing me here
Thanks, Bishop Barron for teaching me about forgiveness 💪
Absolutely wonderful and a tremendous and very important teaching. Thank you Bishop Barron. God bless you.🙏
Thank you Bishop for this lecture/sermon. I definitely needed to hear this. Also, our society needs to renew the practice of forgiveness. I know it is easier said than done.
Well said bishop Barron..move forward
I think discussions on this topic are always lacking when they don't touch on the topic of ongoing one-sided mistreatment. What does forgiveness look like when the other party is unrepentent and the injured party has every reason to believe that any 'reconciliation' would result in reinstating the cycle of abuse?
Love so much of what was said here. Really well thought out. Just would like to see this aspect addressed.
I am thinking the same thing. Abusive situations never seem to make it into these videos.
Forgiveness is one of the hardest, commanded by Jesus.
Could only be done with the help of grace of God
@@johnkussmann4268 Hi, thanks for the replay...and even way harder than forgiveness is- reconciliation.
Great Presentation. Having God's perspective on all situations will help so much to move through the toughest of times. I so want my tombstone to say he was a man of forgiveness. God bless you for your guidence.
God bless Bishop Barron! Thank you God 🙏🙏
God, this is for me
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Thank you Bishop Barron. I would to see a video about forgiving oneself.
Thank you Bishop on your advice to forgive people
Forgiveness….so much easier said than done. Thank you Bishop Baron for this episode. Very helpful and insightful direction towards reconciliation
Issues. Prayers for spiritual continual direction.
Thank you Bishop Barron and Brendan. This has helped me especially in your advice on what to do when the anger or hurt is still raw even though in my mind I have already forgiven that person. Pray! And do something, however small but do it! 😇🙏🔥God bless!
Yes, I agree, i have experienced that it actually works! Peace be with you
But if you do not forgive others their trespasses, God will not forgive you of your trespasses" -Matthew 6:15
Suppose it was mutially discussion and both sides offended the other. And one forgives but the other does not. The issues i have I forgive but I do not want to renew the friendship, I want after forgiving forgeting. Not worth it.
@@anairenemartinez165 trust is earned
Definitely going to need this one with what I’m going through right now.
@@LAFITZ10 uhhh … wut ….
Dear God come into our lives and take over!!
25:10 is something for me. I have trouble talking to most people I don’t know about things they have wronged me on.
forgiveness is liberating.
Thank You and God bless!
love this so insightful and necessary for spiritual growth
There’s someone in my past that I bless as my personal devotion to Jesus. And it may make you laugh but every once in a while I say, Lord bless him and keep him … far away from me. Sometimes that is the best I can do at that very minute. Our Lady helps us when we’re too tired.
These episodes always seem so perfectly timed for me 🙏 Thank you Brandon and Bishop Barron.
Thank you! Interesting facts on this huge topic. However, in my case, I disagree with "People forgive when they know they have been forgiven." There are different levels of offenses. People fractured me so deeply and what they took from me, can never be restored. Moreover, only looking and moving forward while healing from childhood trauma and being triggered on a daily basis is not really easy. In order to heal trauma, survivors need to go back and confront the past.
The Jesus prayer seems very popular now.
Please replay later, at work and I really want to hear this!!!
Thanks team!!!
Hi Bishop, thanks for playing and answering my question.
My own most annoying passage in Scripture is Matthew7 v21-3. If at the Pearly Gates Jesus were to say that to me I hope I'd have time to say well thanks for waiting till now to tell me I'm getting it all wrong, before the trapdoors open and I disappear down to the deepest pit of Hell.
Cheerz DECLAN
God give us the grace to forgive...
Thank you.
God bless Bishop Robert Baron have a great Wednesday
, This is the most informative talk I frequently need to listen to- realizing when I’m back to this again I missed something,or thought I had moved on. Thanks for your insights. Gods not finished with me yet.
Forgive enemies, is to love love them..!
I'm watching this again. It has SO much wisdom. Also, the question from the English gent & your response. I too have always considered that God gave poor Job a "non answer"!
Thank you for your honesty, Bishop Barron. God's reply to Job bugs me as well a bit.
Trima kasih bapak uskup Barron, saya mau berubah, Tuhan Yesus mampukan saya hidup dalam kedamaian.
Mil gracias es un gozo escucharlos y aprender saludos cariñosos desde Cd de Mexico!
Fantastic video! Thank you so much for posting.
This episode helped me understand my self better. It helped me apply forgiveness to the deep, unseen corners of my life. Thank you, it was very cleansing.
And thank you for your prayers, they helped me learn a deeper meaning of forgiveness. God Bless! And keep up the good work. ❤
Thank You sincerely for all you do to help everyone become closer to God by understanding our faith….I really Loved your answer to the viewer’s question and find it ironic because I actually watched your video on Utube which you commented on the book of Job which was nothing less than phenomenal!!!! - Thanks again and God
Bless
I agree, so important to spend 2 shows on this…reconciliation …eye lashes 🙌🏻…great words bishop!
A very good talk about seeking forgiveness and how we know when we have done wrong. You are right. It's a moral judgement and obligation and not a feeling. It's so Important to have a sensitive conscience.
Loved the explanation of the meaning of suffering as a function of forgiveness; it brought full tangible meaning to Christ’s Crucified .
You are not a Christian for yourself but for the world…
Lord Jesus Christ Son of the Living God have mercy on me.
Thank you, Bishop Barron for sharing. God bless you.🙏🏼
Great advice and the deepest wisdom.... but now the tough part.... to practice... :-)
LEARNING SO MUCH KEN DAVIS
"You're not a Christian for yourself, you're a Christian for the world."
Serious question: What does forgiveness look like in abusive relationships where opening up lines of communication could lead to more damage?
Forgiveness doesn't require contacting the offender if harm would result. We can still forgive the person, the action is ours. Forgiveness doesn't require the offender's response.
There are different ways to express forgiveness, without reestablishing a relationship. Non-verbal body language, not intentionally avoiding the other person, not avoiding circles where the other travels, etc. Peace can begin with a smile, or a kind wave, even if at a distance. Don’t wait, take opportunities to say “I forgive you, even though I have moved on.” You are bearing the burden of wearing your Christianity for the world, not for yourself.
That is a great question. I think that you can still forgive, while also being safe and not having contact with the person. That can be the case in an abusive relationship where it is best for the person being abused not to have contact or be in contact with the abuser, but you can still forgive them. I see it as letting go of the pain and the hurt the other might have caused you. It is about honoring self and honoring other.. Forgiveness does not mean to condone, but it is about healing and letting go. To not forgiving is to have resentment. Resentment is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die.
I was in an abusive relationship and part of my healing was that when God forgives us, He also *reconciles* (hence reconciliation) which means bringing us back together/to Him. When humans forgive, there is no demand that we also reconcile. We simply cannot always reconcile but we work to forgive. So I pray for my abuser but i get a lot of peace from the fact that I can work to forgive him without ever even needing to be in contact again. I hope that helps answer your question
@@ElizabethG-hetProductions I really appreciate you sharing that story.
'Be angry and do not sin ' is from Paul about Jonah
Be angry but do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, and do not make room for the devil.
ST. PAUL (Ephesians 4:26-27)
Although you presented this almost a year ago, I just recently watched/listened to it & was greatly impressed. Also, I forwarded it to my Twitter site, & just discovered today that there were 3 "likes" + comments by others on twitter who may not be Catholic, but very spiritual (from my observations of their posts) + 1 rather (!) political. The general tone was that you hit a vulnerable nerve & they were appreciative of your message. I too, agree. Thank you both, Mr. Vogt & Bishop Barron.
The heart of this conversation begins at 21:40. "As Christians, forgiveness is always our job." Bishop Barron then goes on to describe the importance of letting go of our tendency to blame our "enemies" for the situation we are in, while at the same time offering them a perfunctory form of "forgiveness."
Good start. Let's imagine a world in which all Christians actually practiced this with regard to all Christians. I don't think Jesus died on the cross so that we believers could separate ourselves into "Denominations, and even synods, etc. within Denominations!"
I listen to what is said, but I believe what people do. Can we Christians actually reconcile with one another? If we can, there is no limit to the good that will follow. If we can't, we will continue to hide in our defensive little badger holes, hanging on to our petty theological differences, most of which have little or nothing to do with what Jesus is about.
This is my special focus for Lent. I have a family member who has been trying to bully me into suicide for almost 2 years now. Because I am disabled & chronically ill, I’m forced to put up with it. She pulls some stunt almost every week which causes problems for me or at the very least ribs me if my peace & joy. I’ve got to learn to not care & turn it over to Jesus because if not, I’m going to have a stroke or something. Pray that I get to the point spiritually where I want to forgive because I’m filled with the live of Christ instead of just wanting to forgive for myself.
Superb. Thank you!
Forgiveness, ugh.
My "favorite" subject as it is one of the hardest (or already the hardest) Church teachings I'm struggling to apply.
Having an historian mentality (the ability to remember things long time ago) didn't help towards forgiveness, though obviously not complaining I can still remember them.
I'll take this two-part episode as an improvised reference and seminar. I'll probably play this many times, jot notes until hopefully sinks in to current level of faith and reason.
Ultimately, to put it into consistent practice as if it is an instinct.
"Lord Jesus, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
Forgiveness is one of the hardest practices, we need the grave of God to have the courage and strength for it. Peace be with you
great Bishop Barron, please educate us!
This was awesome. Thank you Bishop Barron
Good message - thanks!
yes all on past but present offences are ignored in work place so much injustice and everywhere
Christ knew I needed to hear this. 🤩 tyvm
🌻🌻🌻 Este mensaje es muy importante y útil. SERÍA UN DON!!! ❤ La traducción al español 👏👏 👏
Enjoyed this..
This is excellent. However, often it seems, that forgiveness is interpreted at tolerance. I forgive the lying, judgmental , murderous person, but they still continue their vices and think my forgiveness is quaint.