Stoicism and Christianity
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- Stoicism is experiencing a cultural moment, especially among Millennial techies. What is this ancient school of philosophy? Why is it experiencing a revival? And how does it compare to Christianity? Bishop Barron discusses all that and more in today's episode of the "Word on Fire Show."
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Even as a Protestant I still enjoy listening and learning from bishop B,
Same here.
Of course! We're still brothers and sisters in Christ, after all.
We're blessed to be able to spread the word on such a HUGE scale in the internet.
You fell for Martin Luther's meme.
Same 😍
I’m Lutheran, same here.
This discussion reminds me of a time in college when I was struggling with doubt. I prayed in frustration, saying to God, "I don't think I even understand what faith is!" This was one of the few times in my life that I prayed and felt like I got a very direct and clear answer. I felt like God immediately responded via an impression/thought in my mind with, "Faith is knowing that no matter what happens, everything is going to be okay." That phrase is like a simple mathematical equation that can be unpacked and shown to reveal all sorts of truths. As it's phrased, it has a sort of stoic character. It seems to suggest the acceptance of what is, and the simultaneous trust that God is working it all out for good. Even in the midst of my confusion and suffering, God is there, working it all out for my good. My role is to cultivate an awareness of that. In essence, it's trusting God.
I kinda liked the other background better. This one is too "stoic"
The awakening I had practically mirrored yours word for word. “ no matter what, everything is going to be OK.”
AMEN, PRAISE JESUS CHRIST🙏✝️🥰❤️
Well said, amen
Stoicism isn't just about accepting things the way they are. But in reacting to things emotionally, we are not necessarily working towards doing good. If we want to change things for the good, sometimes we have to detach ourselves a little, take a look at circumstances and causes and see how we can actually influence a situation.
I Wasn't going to church for a while ,and when i was away, i indulged in stoicism alot especially meditations by marcus aurelius,it helped navigate life for a while.
but there was something else missing,not sure what to name but the word "Relief" comes to mind and start of this year ,2024 i started going back to church, Catholic actually even though i have never been one , and guys the amount of peace i have is as they say beyond understanding which gives me great relief.
I am not leaving philosophy anytime soon but am most reliant on the bible going foward. Thank you for this discussion.
I personally liked the old setup better. This feels kinda ‚unintimate‘ in a newsroom bad green screen kinda way
jonathan Hernandez me too. I liked the books in the background too
Let me echo a comment about the new backgrounds, and expand on it a little. I liked the bookshelves. You could do a good intro panning across the bookshelves so that we could have a look at the authors and titles. It would have many of the same benefits of a liturgy -- a habit keeping participants familiar with valuable things.
The Bishop could line up a bookshelf full of his favorite books then another bookshelf with the best commentaries on each book of the Bible in turn, a bookshelf of the Church Fathers, a bookshelf of the best Church commentaries on issues of our time (and throughout the history of thought), and other lineups of good and worthy books according to groupings I'm sure he could think of better than I.
It's 12 hours and 13 minutes right now (as I am scripting my lines) since the Premiers of this show. There are over 9100 views already. And there are 73 people and a few elsewhere who have nothing whatsoever to comment on such rich a content and smart delivery of the message of this video *except the look,* and that too in the negative. *" Always wanting what is NOT."*
What do you guys think would be the opinion of the rest of the thousands of viewers.
Personally I am thrilled as for the *upgrade.*
Agree 100%
Yes, I really enjoyed the backdrop of Bishop Barron's study, and the more intimate feel of their conversation. This feels rather cold and more impersonal.
The main difference: Stoicism, the word didn't become flesh but for us Christians our Word became flesh and dwelt among us. The Word gave eternal life to those who believed in Him.
In the New Testament, Jesus teaches about anxiety where if we fixate ourselves to things like food, pop, we don't really live. Some of what i said is my interpretation of what's in mathew. we have a will where we will always says its over looked since we can just be locked in what we see and where if we go on that, we become very entranced to it. so a lot of things would be seemingly spotlighted. People are over looking how it's as we live, not a topic that just is passed. we are not that easy. we split when we tire and somethings we miss is that stoicism is why we both can be stuck and capable. This is another fear that i have of stoicism, the fact that if we be watchful, we become easier in that process although we become better. so far, it felt like "easy mode" when i succeeded only to know that it was that that made me lose everything since it is a good point in us. i dont know if any this makes sense to anyone else, but i hope it was interesting to say the least. we all have responsibilities attempting to be well with, so i wish you well
I been studying stoicism since the lockdowns started, and I saw the parallels with cristianity. Thanks for this video, it will help me with both.
You picked a heck of a time to start on the Path of Prokopton. I hope it has helped.
The thing about stocism is that it presents an actual framework for accessing the cardinal virtues, which Christianity only does incorrectly
I am a muslim but I like stoicism because of its values. I think every religious man can find something useful in stoicism. But this bishop said very well: religious way leads you to the highest point of your personal development.
@@dr.ashleyfrank8045 how incorrectly?
@@martialarts4330 I think he meant "indirectly" not "incorrectly" probably sent from his phone and auto-correct changed it... that's just a guess though
I miss the intimate library. Sorry. This is so sterile looking.
Now that you mention it, I miss the map of Middle-Earth.
Gary Grant yes loved the books in the background!!
It’s too EWTN-ish
@@cotaryan3740 I thought the same thing!
Sarah Pitts the early 90s gradient fades!
Yes I have been taught that we are all one body in Christ! I have grown up Catholic, came to God as a Protestant and have been turned back by the Lord to Catholicism understanding the Truth God had given me by being grounded in His entire Holy Word.
I like the Old format much better than this new one.
The new format has lost the intimacy. This new format feels sterile.
I enjoyed the discussion immensely! Thank you. :)
Yes, I really enjoyed the backdrop of Bishop Barron's study, and the more intimate feel of their conversation. This feels rather cold and more impersonal.
Agreed, it evokes an impersonal or anonymous corporate production, which undermines my confidence in the intent of Word of Fire, for purely superficial and unfounded reasons. This new format is more reminiscent of a local talk show or mainstream media news program.
I agree. Looks like a wannabe big 2000s TV show
One of the problems with Stoicism is that prayer has no place in life. There is no faith that any appeal can be put forth to change the circumstances in this world, and it follows that Stoicism lacks the Hope that’s only available in Christianity, a gift from the Spirit Himself.
Stoicism is a secular guide on how to control the lower appetites of emotion, hunger, lust, gluttony.
You are partially correct but you are missing the virtue of Justice. It deepens Stoic ethics immensely.
Stoics were pantheists. they believed in an intelligent active principle which governs and shapes nature.
I dig Word on Fire trying to stay ahead on the studio and being in the media. However, that particular background is pretty boring and is much less intimate of an experience than Bishop Barron talking from the library. Plenty of big youtubers use green screens but theirs are more unique to their aesthetic. That one feels very generic vatican news-ish
Matthew Rogers yep
Yes, I really enjoyed the backdrop of Bishop Barron's study, and the more intimate feel of their conversation. This feels rather cold and more impersonal.
"This is what you deserve. You could be good today, but you choose tomorrow"- Marcus Aurelius
I'm living a desert castaway experience for the sin of aging. And now my Christian faith is largely practiced alone because of the sentence of aging. It appears Stoic concepts could help me navigate another day mostly alone. Thank you for mentioning "stop expecting something else" and "The Porch and the Cross" as a beginning read.
If you are still alive out there, old man, know I'll be praying for you. There is honor in being the castaway hermit, but don't let being alone make you lonely. God is right there with you, I'm sure you know, but you have millions of brothers and sisters of all ages. We will all celebrate together in time, and time is fleeting. Until then brother, I'll pray for you. You are not truly alone.
I am man in his early 30s who is atheist and exploring philosophical and religious wisdom. I have found significant wisdom in the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius that I don't feel I have found in other searches through religious or philosophical works. I was raised Catholic, attended Catholic school from K-8 grade and look fondly back at that time. I felt this discussion was talking directly to me and I appreciate the honest acknowledgement of why people like me are searching for wisdom in these traditions.
This does feel a bit sterile. Great episode as always, however. Glad you guys are looking to improve things, but keep the homely feel if you're able, in my opinion. God bless you all.
I miss the library as well. The knowledge and love of books is a significant part of Bishop Barron’s teachings.
I’m a Christian Mystic and I really appreciate Bishop Barron.
Great chat, I’ve been reading The Daily Stoic book for about 3 years now, it’s really helped give me a framework to live by. I’m in the “not religious but open to suggestions” camp. Happy to take my direction from many sources, hence the reason I’m subscribed here. Another vote for making the background less sterile, the old set up had character.
Stoicism is a gateway-philosophy to Christianity.
And I'd say, so is Gnosticism. Both philosophies are, one could say, not so much "wrong" as they are "incomplete". In the modern world, they help many approach Christianity from a different angle.
Yes, for me it was stoicism and neoplatonism
Elizabeth Kraszewski the Bible speaks extensively about the requirement for action from its believers, and we see this in tradition too like they discussed here. I wouldn’t say we’re comparatively more focused on the afterlife. Stoics and Buddhists also focus heavily on the afterlife. Marcus Aurelius spends much of his meditations speculating about the afterlife and quoting Heraclitus.
Elizabeth Kraszewski Buddhism is also very salvation-based. That is inherited from the Hindu notion of Moksha. Read Dhammapadam, which is one of the key therevada text (as far as I know) and it is very focused on afterlife, there even is heaven and hell. Buddhism is also very “church” based, as sangha (the religious Buddhist gathering of people) is quite an important thing as well. Somewhere I even heard that traditional tibetan Buddhism is the closest to Roman Catholicism in the west, having a rigorous religious hierarchy with someone at the top (lama / pope)
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Some people are focusing on what they don't like about the new studio, but I'd like to say congratulations on the new format ! I like the visual focus on Bishop Barron when he's speaking, the split screen when both Bishop Barron and Brandon are speaking and I love that if I lose track of the subject (which often happens) I can read the question that he's answering on the bottom of the screen. Also, the sound is really good. The subject of this episode was great as always. Great job everyone at WoF. God bless you all.
Olivia Correa it feels so much more impersonal though
It seems to me stoicism is still just as compatible with the concept of prayer. If you desire to do everything you can to influence an outcome, and prayer is something you can do to influence an outcome, then you can desire to pray regardless of what the outcome ends up being. You will still be content in whatever the outcome was, because you know you did everything in your control (choosing to pray) to influence the outcome, but the ultimate outcome is out of your control.
I think it is a mark of an intelligent mind to glean truths, wherever they come from and practice them to live a righteous life. I do not pretend to know them mind of God but when I do this I feel him smile upon me. He delights in my free thinking because it’s just the way he designed me. To me learning and enjoying Gods love is a fluid thing, always growing and changing. It’s not stiff and adhered to rules. One must just be open to what is true and righteous. It requires a level of honesty most are not ready or willing to have.
So Great!
Being a Stoic doesn’t mean being apathetic or not moving to action. If we can change or effect a situation we should involve ourselves. I can work with the world around me and I should make it better and in doing that my goodness should reach beyond my own reach. Catholicism and stoicism can move together.
Nooo, noooooo. Old version is better. This is too impersonal. I miss the books and maps. Especially the middle earth one.
Insert the maps!
Ex pagan stoic to Catholic almost in a way guided me to Jesus 🙏
Beautiful!
Thank you Bishop this has been long overdue. I hope you get to talk about the life of st. Francis as a stoic would be interesting
I know it's off topic but I came across this paragraph from a book on Padre Pio's sayings called, Have a Good Day that I just thought I'd randomly share. "Reflect upon and keep before your mental gaze the great humility of the Mother of God, our Mother. The more she was filled with heavenly gifts, the more deeply she humbled herself."
One of the main focuses of Stoicism is Justice. Stoics do not tolerate injustice, they are not apathetic against it.
I really admire the way you teach us Bp Barron. Let me be your online student. Thank you so much
THought provocative as always - thank you, Bishop Barron!
Waiting this for so long .. God bless you Bishop Barron
No need to insult the man just because he believes a lie, and is currently employed by a criminal syndicate. Just because you know god is a lie doesn't mean you need to insult the poor fella trying to do what he was misguided into thinking is the right thing.
Somewhat Happy Did someone hurt You? Parents, priest..? You were baptised without own will, but no one asked You to be born too.. is that also problem? When did You discover the “truth” and why is so important for You for other people to see what You see? Who said You catholics are against safe sex? DoYou have any problems with catholics because of Your sex orientation? Tnx
Thank you Bishop Barron!! for making me sound smart in front of her family...
This is pretty awesome! I googled, "What Bishop Barron says about stoicism." 😊 I've been coming across a lot of quotes from the stoics. Another instance when online technology serves a very worthy purpose. While I listened I thought about the Serenity prayer( to accept the things I cannot change). An elderly Franciscan priest at The Cross in The Woods Shrine in Michigan talked to me about this prayer at every confession. So I can heed the advice in the Stoics quotes. Unlike the New Age cult stoicism doesn't lure the follower into a self-centered world view.
Great content as always. Love the new lighting, but I'm going to echo a lot of responses and say the backdrops really give this an evening news feel in a bad way. If you're committed to the green screen, I'd recommend warm earth tones. Heck, even a backdrop of those awesome old timey maps would be better than the corporate training video look. Otherwise, I always look forward to Bishop Barron's insights and I can overlook the superficial to enjoy the teaching here.
Stoicism with the attitude of “it doesn’t matter, who cares” sounds more like nihilism to me. I love his interpretation of how stoicism and Christianity can be used in concert.
Thanks for nailing the point of demarcation Bishop Barron. As always simply refreshing to listen to you.
Bishop Barron should do a Stoicism/Christianity book sort of like The Enchiridion by Epictetus. A short manual of Stoic and Catholic ethical advice with daily practices/habits/meditations.
Bring back the map of middle Earth!
YES!!!
The zen practice always helped me and so is my faith. Thanks for discussing the overlapping concepts and how we can borrow from stoicism without losing our belief.
I agree, some of their practices are worth trying, but more importantly, don't just rely on said practices, don't forget our purpose here on Earth, the divine will, "to love and to serve"
Excelent show. Thank you for it. I just want to add something: as I see it and as far as I understand it, stoic resignation to fate does not mean to be passive in front of those things we can change. If we can do something to change anything that's bad, a stoic would counsel us to do it. Stoic resignation is more like a kind of acceptance of those things we can do nothing to change and, in this point, I don't think it contradicts the christian position on this matter. As christians, we need this kind of acceptance, even while we pray for God to change our fate. The two things are not excludent.
I strongly believe so too.
With your point, no difference between the two. Maybe only the difference of Jesus' death which Catholics believe strongly in too.
Thank you for this very informative and interesting video. May God bless you both!!
Stoicism is a form of moral discipline.
Logos and and Logoi!!
Porch and the Cross, not selling yet on Kindle.
Around 7:43 Bishop Barron mentions the connection between Buddhism and Stoicism. Just after the connection between Christianity and Stoicism is mentioned. And its funny to me because I went from being interested in Buddhism, to Stoicism, and then Christianity.
Though not ways to salvation, Buddhism and Stoicism helped me look at life in a different way that made me more open to the gospel. If i hadnt run into them i would still be stubbornly against anything mystical. Too hard headed...or stone hearted to accept Christ.
Same thing happened to Justin Martyr and Saint Augustine. You might like the writings of both.
Could I ask you something. I'm talking to a buddy who dispises Christianity because he views it as bigotry that we have a hierarchy (God, then angels, then us). He likes Buddhism because everyone is equal. Did you have this view? How should I respond?
@@paernoser871 I'd call him out on his arrogance for thinking he's on the same level as the Almighty, or even an angel. His arrogance and pride will bar any communication between himself and God. It isn't about what _he_ thinks is 'bigoted', it's about what is true. He's looking for an idol to satisfy his wishes, rather than accepting the truth that he seems so desperately to need.
Yumiko well said.
@@paernoser871 the hardest aspect of Christianity is the idea that God is above us. It is human pride that struggles with this concept. We want to be God. We want to define right and wrong. We dont want to have to submit to an absolute truth, an absolute morality, an external concept of righteousness. Acknowledging God's superiority is part of becoming a Christian.
God created the universe. God created us. Anyone who believes himself on par with such a being is struggling with EXTREME narcissism.
I like the new “clean” look of the background. It makes the speakers “pop” so to speak.
So cool to see another Arkansan get on a biggish religious channel!
Andrew seems like a cool dude
So cool. I practice stoicism but I'm listening in on what Bishop Barron has to say...
Awesome stuff guys! Always love the content! Hey can someone please ask the Bishop to review “The Chosen” as soon as possible 🤣😂 I want to hear his thoughts so bad!!
Thank you for an enlightening discussion
I miss the old background :(
I found this channel and i love it! May god bless you from Brazil!
Wow! Was surprised to see the new background. Great detail using Bishop Barron’s episcopal coat of arms. Still great content. Congratulations on the new sets. 🙏🏽
Yes, liked the coat of arms detail, but strongly dislike the new background (although liked the improvement in sound quality)
Can't say I like the new background, and I honestly hope you guys revert back to the old studios. One thing that is pretty cool, though, is the graphic of Bishop Barron's Coat of Arms. I would say definitely keep that!
We are living in era of the cult of SELF.
Loved it !!! Thank you 🙏
Should be good. Thinking about their use of the word Logos in the light of John 1 and 1:16-17.
Yes, like vanity is a bathroom sink.
Read Cleanthes' Hymn To Zeus (C. 3rd Century B.C.E). It will feel very familiar to Christian readers, including the use of "logos." It also contains the notion that we are the offspring of God; admiration for, and submission to, the divine order of the world; the idea that the moral evil in the world is the result not of fate but of man's freewill'; and a petition to God to free human souls from ignorance.
Congrats on the studio!
From how I’ve been reading Meditations by Marcus A., Stoicism doesn’t deny religion, if at all I find it a great way to amalgamate my two, I am a die hard catholic, but my examples for how I read it is like when Marcus talks about Zeus, I say the of Christ(Hagios works for me, maybe cause both are originally Greek) and when it talks about nature I think of Gods design, when Marcus invokes the memory of men from the past I remember the numerous great Saints we have in the church.
Its been 3 years but i need to come back to this.
I like the message that when we align our logos to the environment we have peace.
Wonderful! I love it!
I applaud your improved production quality. I do want to point out that Bishop Barron's audio and video are out of sync, by about a frame or so. Please fix that.
Aprecciate the talk as always. Honestly the library background had it's touch. Nevertheless any attempt to improve should be welcome among the viewers. Congratz.
I feel like this is an overly simplified take on Stoicism that ignores certain aspects of the Philosophy as a practice.
Stoicism did not promote a passive indifference to anything, they promoted a need to understand the good or the bad within and without and either ascent or deny.
Cato was a Stoic that fought in a Rebellion against tyranny and injustice.
Marcus Aurelius led the Roman Army on campaign for many many years in an effort to defend the Empire.
Epictetus was known as a very spiritual Stoic who wrote Discourses on keeping constant blessings to God and praising the Divine (Singular) above all else and not taking credit.
This is about, as you say, unleashing passions that are in harmony with the good while staving off the passions which are not.
At the same time, knowing there are base things that have to be dealt with in order to overcome and grow.
This is where discomfort practice comes in, in order to maintain courage and reason despite hardship.
That some hardship is necessary in order for things to go where they need to go, so there is no point in whining about it.
The Stoics practiced a way of viewing the worst possible outcomes in order to realize that things that happen, when they happen, are much worse in our imaginings than in reality.
This video is rife with oversimplification and can promote misunderstanding, if you will forgive my directness.
They did not say that one should not fight to overcome hardship, adversity, or injustice, but that one should reframe one’s perspective in order to gain ‘proper footing’ necessary to do so.
In some instances the hardship cannot be overcome and is relegated to the will of God in order to embolden others and teach lessons.
So the self sacrifice, itself, becomes a stand against injustice or baring a hardship with courage becomes an example of how to drive ahead.
Some Stoics died or were banished for speaking out and even rising up, taking up arms.
Jesus, the ultimate in Stoic examples, died on the cross for others... Martyrs in the Church died. They accepted their fate as the will of God.
These are Stoic examples within the Church.
Greek Philosophers, the majority, were also once Soldiers and war, along with warrior practices, were considered part of Philosophical training.
Catholics have this in the Jesuit practices of St Ignacious.
Yes, place Catholicism as the foremost, but in context there are very few differences.
God bless you for speaking the truth!
He caricatures stoicism in the same way atheists did to christianity. Denying your roots is unworthy. Christianity today is as greco-roman as it is jewish. Maybe more so.
This is a great response.
Main difference is the use of logic and intelligence in stoicism. Goes against the judgement by God at death
@@RealOrbit-Australia I am not seeing how logical, intelligent, rational, and virtuous living go against the judgment of God after death?
Could you please elaborate? Also, you over-simplified Stoicism as about simply being two things when it is really about aiming towards virtuous living and being in harmony with the Good... Something that is modeled by the example of Jesus Christ.
The old studio was so warm and inviting. I loved the library feel. This new look lacks character
I miss trying to read the book titles on the shelves behind Bishop Barron as he talks.
I wish Bishop Barron would have a discussion with Ryan Reeves
Heart Congrats for the *NEW STUDIO,* new look. Extremely appealing. Love it☆☆☆☆
*"Simplicity is the keynote of God's Kingdom"*
-JESUS to 'Two Listeners' in the book
*'GOD CALLING'.*
I like the content of this one, Your Excellency. However, I much preferred the library. I could almost picture you in a comfy chair, with your Roman collar, and a smoking pipe giving us a, as always, solid message about our faith and culture!
Good and timely content 🙏🙏🙏not so good background
I have just now been able to watch this in the new situation. I don't particularly like it as it loses some the 'intimacy' of the previous setup. There are also technical problems which I presume are solvable. These include lack of clear focus (in the film sense!), 'muddy' sound and the syncing for Bishop Barron was very slightly off. Content is as usual excellent. I learn every time!
I like the program, but I liked the old format more.Thanks
Stoicism matches Christianity on many points, but it does not answer the question of what happens AFTER we die and how that should impact how we live.
Does this question need to be answered? Many agree with the mainstream Christian idea on what happens after one dies, yet still live a life full of pleasure
I have to agree with many commenters on the new look. The previous background was much more personal and intimate, not to mention more interesting. The new background looks like any another show. Wonderful episode as usual nonetheless.
The new setup won't keep me from watching, but I do like the old setup better. It was nice seeing the books, the maps, etc.
Thanks PADRE ❤
Bishop Barron, I wish you would have touched a bit on the Stoic goal of "becoming [like] God", which Seneca talks about all throughout his letters on ethics. Aside from later Neo-Platonism, the Stoic goal of becoming [like] God seems extremely similar to the Christian goal of deification or theosis. They don't use the term sanctification, but more than any other non-Christian philosophy they have something like sanctification as their main ethical ideal. It would have been interesting to dig a bit deeper into how the deification of a Christian saint is different than the Stoic sage.
I have to admit, I never imagined how many opportunities toward sanctification have come into my life!
I don’t like the new studios. Too sterile. No “beauty”.
It's not unlike the jarring experience of worshiping in a beautiful cathedral before being thrust into a generic 1970s Vatican II church.
16:15 to 16:30 That right there is “The obstacle is the way.”
The new sets seem like CNN. It's not a "conversation" anymore, it's a broadcast. The best set is the one the Bishop uses in his single-person videos with the bookshelves in the background.
I prefer this background. Because it is clean my mind can focus 100% on what is being said.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you, that was enlightening.
Stoicism was a first step for me toward the Truth of Christianity. The concept of the Logos in Stoicism fascinated me, but the true meaning and reality of the Logos is the Incarnate Logos of God, Jesus Christ. I would suggest reading St. Justin Martyr on the Logos in his 1st & 2nd Apology. He was providentially martyred during the reign of Marcus Aurelius. Also, I'd recommend the discussion on the stoics in Book 19 of St. Augustine's City of God.
great topic selection
Thanks!
Stoicism has done more for my anger management than any biblical counseling. The usual advice was read these scriptures, pray, and don't be. Stoicism teaches management through ideas lime mindfulness and Premeditatio Malorum. Also the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi is pretty stoic.
An interesting footnote, the Gotham television show made a point to identify Thomas Wayne as a stoic.
Fascinating talk. Bishop Barron has a relatively good understanding of Stoicism, though I disagree that Stoics advocate passive acceptance of the world rather than actively trying to work for justice. Stoics (ancient & modern) do advocate action to change the world-but with the reserve clause that one might not succeed.
I agree with you. It seems like many other viewers do too.
Hello to all! I am happy because there's a Catholic discussion regarding stoicism. I am very interested in stoicism and I learned their practices. I have a question. As catholics, is it okay for us to do meditation such as the stoic one: view from above. I've read that by performing this meditation, we put things in their proper perspective.
The concept of the ‘bad Buddha’, obstacles that present over and over until we learn how to control our reactivity to them, is also close to stoicism.
Well made video, definitely clarifying.
Looks fantastic.
No more maps and books though...It's the end of an era.
In Stoicism the pursuit of Virtue is the only good and leads to Eudaimonia (Happiness), Disciplining of passions and desires is not the tenet that leads to happiness, but lack of disciplining passions and desires will lead to misery or evil.
16:36. Bishop Barron quoting St. Escriva. 😁
It certainly obtains attention
Green screen would be pretty pro. You could put all kinds of interesting effects in the background. You don't even have to worry about the Bishop wearing green!
Powerful!!