Agree. Young is great on every level from athlete to human being. The reason Brady fell to the 6th round in 2000 was due to the teams looking for the next Steve Young. A QB who wins games with hit arm & his legs.
I’m definitely not over Mac. I still think he can be our stud. Give him what he deserves. Offensive coach, number one receiver, and a GOOD line. I really think Van Pelt will direct Mac to succession
That is never happening. NE offense needs so many holes field and there is no way they are giving him a second contract for ten of millions. Mac will need to find a new team. He is probably better off as this is going to be long and painful rebuild. I don’t think a lot of people realize how poorly Bill did on the offensive side of the ball when it came to building a real NFL offense. They have like two good players and one is older, Andrew’s.
What a Legend… one of the best to ever do it, an inspiration to ppl everywhere… an absolute specimen of a man, complete Stud… Steve Young, Felger, and Murray are blessed to be in the presence of such a class act.
They didn’t make an effort to help Mac, whether the receiving core or the O Line. You can’t tell me he got a good enough shot to succeed when he’s throwing to Jalen Reagor.
Cam Newton was nothing but a class act and got hounded out of town but mac is a dirty player and bad decision maker but let's give him another 3 years....?
Youre exactly right. By no means do I think Mac jones is a star but they did nothing to help him along. Mac's talent is very limited. He is not a big physical specimen that can deliver strikes downfield. He's also not going to beat you by breaking tackles and extending plays with his legs. The pats should have recognized that and at least gave him one or the other. He has never had a great reciever, and they havent protected for him since his rookie year.
Yeah, there was a plan. Kraft said no, so Bill was probably ok, Let's win now . Mortgage out the future and spend for 2 more super bowls . Wouldn't surprise me if this was intentional on Bill Post brady to be fired . A coach that smart doesn't make mistakes like he did the past 4 years
Yes "We all know Tom's age and contract situation" He was prepared to move on from a 40yo QB. I think he was right at the time to be prepared. You would've thought he'd stick it out with TB12 once JG10 was traded. BB lost it all once TB12 won the TB SB
Mac will do well if he has the best line, rb, wr unit, coaching, defense, and minimal crowd noise every game. That's basically the setup he had with 2020 Bama.
If Drake Maye falls to you grab him. He's going to be like Josh Allen. He's big fast and has a cannon for an arm. I don't care what Steve Young says Mac Jones doesn't have the arm strength or the physical ability to get yards on his own. He has to anticipate and lob his throws. Jayden Daniels is awesome to he's a better passer than Drake May but he's gonna be glass.
Nothing is false in here bro , this the truest comment in those whole section. IDK why pats fans can't handle a bad pick. Happens all the time in the NFL. That's what it is. @@antguapo2935
No plan at the QB and poor drafting was Bills undoing. To many misses in the first round. I never understood how they let Tom walk and they had absolutely no plan at the most important position on the team. Cam Newton at the 11 hour.
bottom line is, no qb would have been successful with that roster and that coaching, I mean,, 3 yrs, 3 different OCs, wr room is lmao DeVante Parker Reagor Bourne Douglas Boutte Thornton what do they expect from a young qb the guy is s not a magician but making the probowl as a rookie is evidence this kid can play if he gets the support
@Speedyreedy1218 That's all I need to see. MHJ or BUST for me! If CHI trade down, we need the wr!! This is our perfect opportunity to stick it to Edelman and Ninkovich, whom I love but don't know JACK about Mac 10. #MacAttack #foreverNE
@mafootballguy7077 That's the spirit. I'd take the WR if it's Harrison immediately at three. However, if there is a trade down and somehow we get two first rounders, double dip with the best OL and WR available. Just like we double dipped, I believe in 2012, we got Chandler and Hightower.
@@Speedyreedy1218That's a fine move, too. The absolute last thing I wanna see is him walking and succeeding when I (and clearly you) know darn well he can succeed right where he is.
@mafootballguy7077 Exactly. I wouldn't even get rid of BB either as long as he maintained focus on the correct draft board and assured stability at the OC position this year. Kraft messed up, letting Brady get #7 on another team. He's going to look even more foolish if BB gets Schula's record and Mac gets a ring somewhere else. If Detroit moves on from Geoff (Jameson Williams was one of the Bama WRs I believe Mac had). There's another on the Texans, Eagles, and Dolphins (if they move on from Tua).
@Speedyreedy1218 Yeah, you're right. Patricia as OC 2 seasons ago was a huge mistake, and the Krafts didn't veto it. Same with moving on from Brady (BB wanted to, and the Krafts didn't say no). Let's at least hope that things change offensively under Mayo.🙏
"There was no plan!" Yes, there was a plan, his name was Jimmy G. the issue is Brady continued to perform at a high level far longer than anyone expected and you couldn't hold onto Jimmy G forever, hence trading him so they didn't get nothing for him. They could have chosen Jimmy G over Brady at that time, but doing so means likely giving up 2 Super Bowl appearances and 1 championship, something I'm sure F&M wouldn't have liked. "They should have known Brady would continue to be good into his 40s!" Really? Because F&M was non-stop bashing Brady throughout that time period, claiming he was going to fall off a cliff. Felger constantly compared things to when Favre fell off a cliff. They claimed it so much that F&M was nicknamed the "Brady in decline" show by their own colleagues. And that's even before getting into how often Felger claimed Brady was on steroids and was a cheater. "After Jimmy G left they didn't draft any replacement!" Really? They drafted QBs in both 2018 and 2019. Now you can criticize them for drafting guys that ended up not being good. But to say they had no plan is disingenuous. "Those don't count! They should have used a first or second rounder on a QB!" Really? Using a draft pick that high instead of using it to win now? The Pats would have been absolutely destroyed for doing that. Let us not forget that the Pats used their first round picks in both 2018 and 2019 on offensive skill position players. Now N'Keal Harry certainly ended up being an epic bust, but BB did what the media wanted, using a high draft pick on a WR. Criticize them for the individual pick, not the plan. On a related note, the media claims they didn't do anything to bring in weapons for Brady at the end, but in addition to those two high draft picks mentioned above they also got Antonio Brown and used a high draft pick to trade for another WR for Brady. They absolutely were trying to get him weapons. Criticize BB for the individual transactions made, but knock off this "no plan" crap. It is false and you totally know it is.
I believe in Daniels. Three-year window. I think we can be back in the mix if the Patriots invest in him and build around him smartly. Mac Jones can start next season. Or bringing a veteran to mentor Daniels while he learns throughout the first season, then starts the following season bringing in good pieces around him.
@@mattl8774 no they will be making the playoffs in three years if they draft him. Build around him the right way. Chicago will be hurting if they draft WILLIAMS because he will be a bust. Drake has potential and so does Daniel’s. WILLIAMS is only 6 feet tall. Daniels has the potential to be elite. It’s worth taking the chance.
C'mon, Steve! Kraft got rid of Mac's major problem, which was BB. MHJ or BUST in rd 1, tackle later. Jakobi says it all. Dear Coach Mayo (and Mr. Kraft): DON'T LET MAC 10 WALK!!!! SHAME on Jakobi Meyers. 🙏 Sincerely, A Pats Fan
Patriots fans are so negative. All y'all opinions don't matter. My opinion doesn't matter... These guys worked together but not at this capacity. No one knows how it will go . Good or bad. No one though Nick sirriani would take the eagles to the Superbowl. No want though Vrable would pan out as a coach. No one knew Josh McDaniels would Stink at being an HC when he got his first Gig. Same with Patricia. People need to start adding positivity in y'all lives instead of negativity. FA did t start, draft didn't start still a lot more hiring to do. All ANYONE can do at this stage is watch the process. No one can guess who the Patriots will draft ETC. All rumored news will be FAKE NEWS & SPECULATION with no base.
Love how Steve called out Murray for that ridiculous take. Like how can you call yourself a sports commentator and argue to stay away from lefty QBs because it 'looks weird?' I mean, does he even realize how stupid he sounds? These guys are just trolls.
Mac Jones is the reason Bill is gone and the offense looked horrible for the past 3 years . He destroyed Bellichick and he will destroy Mayo if he stays . Then all will fall on Robert and Jonathan Kraft back and they will probably have to sell the team due to dropping revenue and risk of losing millions . Don’t believe me ? Watch !
Such a good guy in addition to a GREAT player.
Agree. Young is great on every level from athlete to human being. The reason Brady fell to the 6th round in 2000 was due to the teams looking for the next Steve Young. A QB who wins games with hit arm & his legs.
@r.williamcomm7693 and now people want the next Mahomes so Purdy slipped 🤣
@@maddenplaya2097 great point!!
What a great guest and segment... awesome guy too
I’m definitely not over Mac. I still think he can be our stud. Give him what he deserves. Offensive coach, number one receiver, and a GOOD line. I really think Van Pelt will direct Mac to succession
That is never happening. NE offense needs so many holes field and there is no way they are giving him a second contract for ten of millions. Mac will need to find a new team. He is probably better off as this is going to be long and painful rebuild. I don’t think a lot of people realize how poorly Bill did on the offensive side of the ball when it came to building a real NFL offense. They have like two good players and one is older, Andrew’s.
He still has a 5th year option
What a Legend… one of the best to ever do it, an inspiration to ppl everywhere… an absolute specimen of a man, complete Stud…
Steve Young, Felger, and Murray are blessed to be in the presence of such a class act.
What about Mac jones tho
Surprisingly great guest. I had no idea Steve Young was this entertaining and intelligent.
They didn’t make an effort to help Mac, whether the receiving core or the O Line.
You can’t tell me he got a good enough shot to succeed when he’s throwing to Jalen Reagor.
He’s corny can’t be a team leader with that, and the videos out on him being dirty.
Mac didnt do anything to help himself or the team.
Cam Newton was nothing but a class act and got hounded out of town but mac is a dirty player and bad decision maker but let's give him another 3 years....?
@@getbuckets4252 I wouldn’t even have cut Cam Newton after the preseason. I’m with you there, I would’ve kept Cam as a mentor
Youre exactly right. By no means do I think Mac jones is a star but they did nothing to help him along. Mac's talent is very limited. He is not a big physical specimen that can deliver strikes downfield. He's also not going to beat you by breaking tackles and extending plays with his legs. The pats should have recognized that and at least gave him one or the other. He has never had a great reciever, and they havent protected for him since his rookie year.
Great interview. Steve Young is so knowledgeable plus he’s great on ever level from athlete to human being.
thumbnail looks like christopher reeves
the plan was Garoppolo...
And that plan was DREADFUL
That's Jimmy "IR" Garoppolo to you pal...
And brady beat that plan.
Yeah, there was a plan. Kraft said no, so Bill was probably ok, Let's win now . Mortgage out the future and spend for 2 more super bowls . Wouldn't surprise me if this was intentional on Bill Post brady to be fired . A coach that smart doesn't make mistakes like he did the past 4 years
Yes "We all know Tom's age and contract situation" He was prepared to move on from a 40yo QB. I think he was right at the time to be prepared. You would've thought he'd stick it out with TB12 once JG10 was traded. BB lost it all once TB12 won the TB SB
That was a great interview.
Steve Young is brillant! Surprised he's not coaching
Mac will do well if he has the best line, rb, wr unit, coaching, defense, and minimal crowd noise every game. That's basically the setup he had with 2020 Bama.
If Drake Maye falls to you grab him. He's going to be like Josh Allen. He's big fast and has a cannon for an arm. I don't care what Steve Young says Mac Jones doesn't have the arm strength or the physical ability to get yards on his own. He has to anticipate and lob his throws. Jayden Daniels is awesome to he's a better passer than Drake May but he's gonna be glass.
Bro shut up 🤣🤣
Nothing is false in here bro , this the truest comment in those whole section. IDK why pats fans can't handle a bad pick. Happens all the time in the NFL. That's what it is. @@antguapo2935
And who are you? Steve young knows more than you
Love steve
No plan at the QB and poor drafting was Bills undoing. To many misses in the first round. I never understood how they let Tom walk and they had absolutely no plan at the most important position on the team. Cam Newton at the 11 hour.
Always been a fan of southpaws, be they QB's, P's or it's a jump shot.
bottom line is, no qb would have been successful with that roster and that coaching, I mean,, 3 yrs, 3 different OCs, wr room is lmao DeVante Parker Reagor Bourne Douglas Boutte Thornton what do they expect from a young qb the guy is s not a magician but making the probowl as a rookie is evidence this kid can play if he gets the support
Jakobi, KB, and HOF Steve believe in Mac. They know.
#BackTheMac
@Speedyreedy1218 That's all I need to see. MHJ or BUST for me! If CHI trade down, we need the wr!! This is our perfect opportunity to stick it to Edelman and Ninkovich, whom I love but don't know JACK about Mac 10. #MacAttack #foreverNE
@mafootballguy7077 That's the spirit. I'd take the WR if it's Harrison immediately at three.
However, if there is a trade down and somehow we get two first rounders, double dip with the best OL and WR available. Just like we double dipped, I believe in 2012, we got Chandler and Hightower.
@@Speedyreedy1218That's a fine move, too. The absolute last thing I wanna see is him walking and succeeding when I (and clearly you) know darn well he can succeed right where he is.
@mafootballguy7077 Exactly. I wouldn't even get rid of BB either as long as he maintained focus on the correct draft board and assured stability at the OC position this year.
Kraft messed up, letting Brady get #7 on another team. He's going to look even more foolish if BB gets Schula's record and Mac gets a ring somewhere else. If Detroit moves on from Geoff (Jameson Williams was one of the Bama WRs I believe Mac had). There's another on the Texans, Eagles, and Dolphins (if they move on from Tua).
@Speedyreedy1218 Yeah, you're right. Patricia as OC 2 seasons ago was a huge mistake, and the Krafts didn't veto it. Same with moving on from Brady (BB wanted to, and the Krafts didn't say no). Let's at least hope that things change offensively under Mayo.🙏
"There was no plan!"
Yes, there was a plan, his name was Jimmy G. the issue is Brady continued to perform at a high level far longer than anyone expected and you couldn't hold onto Jimmy G forever, hence trading him so they didn't get nothing for him. They could have chosen Jimmy G over Brady at that time, but doing so means likely giving up 2 Super Bowl appearances and 1 championship, something I'm sure F&M wouldn't have liked.
"They should have known Brady would continue to be good into his 40s!"
Really? Because F&M was non-stop bashing Brady throughout that time period, claiming he was going to fall off a cliff. Felger constantly compared things to when Favre fell off a cliff. They claimed it so much that F&M was nicknamed the "Brady in decline" show by their own colleagues. And that's even before getting into how often Felger claimed Brady was on steroids and was a cheater.
"After Jimmy G left they didn't draft any replacement!"
Really? They drafted QBs in both 2018 and 2019. Now you can criticize them for drafting guys that ended up not being good. But to say they had no plan is disingenuous.
"Those don't count! They should have used a first or second rounder on a QB!"
Really? Using a draft pick that high instead of using it to win now? The Pats would have been absolutely destroyed for doing that. Let us not forget that the Pats used their first round picks in both 2018 and 2019 on offensive skill position players. Now N'Keal Harry certainly ended up being an epic bust, but BB did what the media wanted, using a high draft pick on a WR. Criticize them for the individual pick, not the plan. On a related note, the media claims they didn't do anything to bring in weapons for Brady at the end, but in addition to those two high draft picks mentioned above they also got Antonio Brown and used a high draft pick to trade for another WR for Brady. They absolutely were trying to get him weapons. Criticize BB for the individual transactions made, but knock off this "no plan" crap. It is false and you totally know it is.
I believe in Daniels. Three-year window. I think we can be back in the mix if the Patriots invest in him and build around him smartly. Mac Jones can start next season. Or bringing a veteran to mentor Daniels while he learns throughout the first season, then starts the following season bringing in good pieces around him.
They'll be picking another qb in 3 years if they pick him.
@@mattl8774 no they will be making the playoffs in three years if they draft him. Build around him the right way. Chicago will be hurting if they draft WILLIAMS because he will be a bust. Drake has potential and so does Daniel’s. WILLIAMS is only 6 feet tall. Daniels has the potential to be elite. It’s worth taking the chance.
C'mon, Steve! Kraft got rid of Mac's major problem, which was BB. MHJ or BUST in rd 1, tackle later. Jakobi says it all. Dear Coach Mayo (and Mr. Kraft): DON'T LET MAC 10 WALK!!!! SHAME on Jakobi Meyers. 🙏
Sincerely,
A Pats Fan
Unbelievable that an Alabama-trained QB can be destroyed by Belichick and the Patriots.
Patriots fans are so negative. All y'all opinions don't matter. My opinion doesn't matter... These guys worked together but not at this capacity. No one knows how it will go . Good or bad. No one though Nick sirriani would take the eagles to the Superbowl. No want though Vrable would pan out as a coach. No one knew Josh McDaniels would Stink at being an HC when he got his first Gig. Same with Patricia. People need to start adding positivity in y'all lives instead of negativity. FA did t start, draft didn't start still a lot more hiring to do. All ANYONE can do at this stage is watch the process. No one can guess who the Patriots will draft ETC. All rumored news will be FAKE NEWS & SPECULATION with no base.
Thought ***
BB F'd up the O
Love how Steve called out Murray for that ridiculous take. Like how can you call yourself a sports commentator and argue to stay away from lefty QBs because it 'looks weird?' I mean, does he even realize how stupid he sounds? These guys are just trolls.
Murray is a tool. He fits perfectly with Mr. Negativity, and you’re right Mike co host.
Mac Jones is a flopped pick. Idk why the fan base is so unable to accept that. He crow hops into a 10 yard out route. Go find a QB who can hack it.
Jones is a horrific nfl qb, worst in the league or 2nd to worst. Young is just nuts. Jones wouldn't even fetch a 7th rounder
Felger is the perfect mouthpiece for the miserable segment of the Boston fan base. Who can listen to this crap.
Zo and betrand are the better
Mac Jones is the reason Bill is gone and the offense looked horrible for the past 3 years . He destroyed Bellichick and he will destroy Mayo if he stays . Then all will fall on Robert and Jonathan Kraft back and they will probably have to sell the team due to dropping revenue and risk of losing millions . Don’t believe me ? Watch !
Bill putting in defense play callers getting no take talent to help jones ?
And jones ruined bill!