How Good Is A Tesla In The Snow?
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- Check out the new Michelin CrossClimate 2 All-Weather tires' performance on snow-packed and icy roads. They made believers out of us. Find out more about these revolutionary tires at (www.michelinman.com/tires/all...)
In this video, Roman tries out some brand new Michelin CrossClimate2 winter tires on our Tesla Model Y Performance. How well does the car (and its tires) handle the slick conditions?
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Excellent ! (Consider myself a snow tire expert, 1st time I've heard of All-Weather rating for tires.)
Had them for a few years here in Canada.
TFL has discussed them in videos long before this test.
I considered those last year but they only made 18s now they make 19s but still no go for my 2016 Lincoln AWD 3.7L V6 they don't come in a 245/40 r19 98Y the closest is a 255/45 r19 103V it's still a second set of tires if I went with these "special tires" I'm still COMPLETELY satisfied with my Continental SuperContact DWS06
ALL-WEATHER TIRES have been around since 2002.
I believe Nokian was the first and are on the fourth gen of these tires now. I put a set on my daughters car for the Kansas winters last year and they do very well. I wont run all-season tires any longer but now run all-weather.
I think they’re more popular in Europe and are new to the US. In Europe they have a lot of selection not available here.
Jeeze these two have a great relationship I can’t even remember the last time my dad spoke to me that long for
It true, but every time he called him dad it kinda shack me up, it make him look like a daddy boy, and instead of two ideas it sounds like one, a step back for me to watch another review to confirm. Mee, It maybe just me.
@@danek893 No offense, but what do you think he should call his dad ?
Keep in mind. This is a PUBLIC appearance. This doesn't show them in natural surroundings. Sure its not a perfect relationship.
Very few of us had a relationship this good with our fathers (I didn't and also admire their relationship)
Having done 40,000 miles on these tyres I can easily say they work really well in the wet, on hot tarmac, gravel, mud, concrete and snow too... Wear rate is really good and they're neither vague nor pointy on turn in - the blocks appear large but don't deform as you'd expect them too. Can't say I've noticed an extra stiffness and the only noise difference is when rolling to a stop/ below 20 mph when there's more of a pronounced noise from the tread compared to summer tyres. I've spent most of my life switching between dedicated summer and winter tyres but these filled the bill perfectly. I've driven them as hard as I would a normal summer tyre (130 mph on the autobahn) and down muddy and gravel strewn rally stages and along snow covered roads. I can honestly say these tyres have coped with everything!
Really love the fact that it's father and son doing these videos together. Their wonderful relationship is really apparent, great stuff!
I was about to say the same.
I’m glad to see someone is finally testing all weather tires.
How good is a Tesla in the snow? No. How good are Michelin all-weather tires in the snow? 😁
An awesome snow car (AWD Tesla) with great tires.
How good is Michelin in the snow - 6K views. How good is a tesla in the snow - 60K views
@@332louis A tesla is more interesting than a tire. Doubt anyone in Texas wants to watch a video about snow tires.
I have a set of CrossClimate 2's on my HR-V AWD. They are FANTASTIC. Legitimately no compromises. 80% of the snow traction without snow tire demerits. Quiet on the highway. Great dry pavement grip and comfort. Highly recommend for climates that actually get regular snow in the winter (I live in Salt Lake).
@@drink15 yes of course ... Texas cowboys use them Teslas on the farms for hauli ... oh wait, no ... Texans use them out in the fields for hunti ... oh no, wait ... Texans ... actually Texans prefer pickup trucks to any POS Tesla you nincompoop!
Just got these for my Subaru , been through a winter storm already , they did great & I love the tread
I just put them on my 2019 Forester, and eager to drive in the snow. I will say that they handle great in the rain.
Tbf my old subaru even on crappy tyres did well, they are just very capable cars
How does it brake on icy road?
@@random4k336 great
Glad you guys put these videos out. I put the Goodyear Weather Ready Assurance All weather tires on my SUV. Now just waiting on snow this week in the Great Lakes.
I've been reading about these tires for some time now, they have interested me since I saw them. Glad to see the test! I currently have Michelin Pilot A/S 3+ on a 2015 WRX and these were also semi designed for more advanced snow/mud and I will say they impressed me last year in the snow. I live out in Washington state near the Seattle area and go out to the snow and these for all season tires did amazing. My previous snow tire were the Pirelli SotoZero 3 (I think 3) and these are great winter performance tires for those that desire it, I actually left those on into the spring time because they feel and handle so well. Love the videos you guys do!
Thanks for the video guys. I love the father-son dynamic and the respect both ways.
I got a set of the Michelin CrossClimate 1s on when I got my Model 3 Stealth Performance last year, by far the best tire for the car for any place with all 4 seasons. They are amazing in the snow, in the rain, and the dry, and they last a long time too, mine have 14k miles and look hardly worn at all. The only thing they aren't great on is ice, but nothing is except studded tires or the most extreme winter tires available (which are horrid in anything but snow and ice).
Great video, again, talking about how important tires are in snow. Now if you get chance, I'd like to see how they handle on wet compact snow/ice. I think you would agree that the cold conditions in your video give better traction than at temps just above freezing.
@2:30 that 3 peak snowflake means Severe Snow.
A three-peak mountain snowflake (3PMSF) symbol branded on a tire's sidewall indicates the tire meets required performance criteria in testing to be considered severe snow service-. ... Tires branded with the 3PMSF symbol are expected to provide improved traction beyond a standard M+S branded all-season tire.
Please test it in deeper snow also
Is not a track 🙄😤
Over the past 8 years I've moved from all-season to all-weather tires, ending with the Nokian WR G4. I use these on our VW Jetta Hybrid. Our gas mileage is the same (42-45 MPG annually). I used the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 winter tire on both a VW Eos - with great traction and no loss in MPG; and on our other VW Jetta Hybrid, again with no mileage impact. For all year use I am in favor of All-Weather vs All-Season.
Thanks for posting this! Great demo video.
Got these tires for our 2014 Chevy Volt last month. Huge difference compared the previous all-season tires and so far great in the snow and still quiet.
I have these for my 2019 M3 with 18inch wheels, they're really really good.
I have an 18 M3 AWD LR w/19” rims. Are these tires as quiet or quieter than the stock tires?
I'm glad to finally see a car review in snow that mentions the tires
I saw these at Sam's club this weekend. I was very intrigued.
Model Y is AMAZING. Just got my wife one!!
I've been curious about those all weather rated tires, nice to see them in action!
looks great with those tires
Those tires and rims look awesome! Great job!
Nice review guys, enjoyed it immensely!
Looks like a great snow and mud / dirt tire.
Just got a set of crossclimate 2s during a blizzard with -11 temps and it has performed amazingly so far!
I currently run the Vredestein Quatrac Pro 'all weather' tires on my 500hp Audi Q7. I've had them for a little over a year now, and having used them in just about every weather condition one could imagine, I would buy them again without hesitation. Fantastic tires!
Funny, I liked the pattern of the tires and I recently bought them and tried them. They are great.
Very interesting test. Looking forward to updates.
Please do a video showing how the cold CO winter effects your Tesla model Y’s range in real life day to day operations. Thanks for the tire review! This might be the perfect tire for here in northern WV where we get a few snow falls a year
Thankfully I don't have to worry about snow since live in SoCal
Great tyres. I use them on my fwd van and it's far better in the snow than my a6 quattro on summer tyres. Very impressive rubber indeed!
i have had those tires for a year now on my SHO they work great. 22000 miles and going strong,
I have had cross climates since they first released on tire rack. Dealers will be confused when you ask if the sell them. But, the cross climate 2 is now at Costco. Amazing value. Minimal increase in road noise. All season traction’s. Great in 6 inches of snow. Never had deeper to test...
What a Great Father/Son Team
A great review. Am very intrigued by these tires
I can vouch for how big a difference All Season vs All Weather can make. My car came with Yokohama all season Geolandars on it. In the snow, even with AWD it liked to skid and slide. Switched to an All Weather, still a Yokohama Geolandar with similar tread, I've never felt so in control in the snow. Honestly, I think they beat the cheap winter tires my friend uses for traction in the snow. That new compound makes all the difference
Great video!
We put cross climates on my wife’s Nissan Juke dig-t 190 bop. The tyres were brilliant, very quiet at highway speeds, good in the wet and exceptional in the snow. I would recommend them to anyone.
Your channel definitely deserves my subs!
I used to have Continental All seasons and I have the Michelin CrossClimate for 50000km (I live in Europe) and they are more comfy than the Conti’s and they have more grip in bad weather (rain and snow) and I drive a SUV with 4x4. I’m really impressed with these tires.
I just purchased a set of the Cross Climate SUV for my wife's car. Great wet/dry braking and very good in the snow.
Been seeing these all weather tires show up the last couple of years. They will be my next tire.
I'd love to see a proper, full comparison between All Season and All Weather tires from you guys. Maybe see just how they compare in the snow. Like when you showed how much better winter tires are in the snow
Have these on my MY. Love them.
I’ve run Michelin X-Ice year round here in Canada, no wear issues in the summer, ran the same set for 80,000kms before they hit the wear bars and they still grip well. The big issue with buying two sets of tires for one vehicle is if you don’t put enough miles on the vehicle you will end up ageing out both sets of tires before you wear out either...
Does it make stopping in dry and wet weather harder?
@@azhynh1898 Snow tires are a softer rubber compound, they grip better in all weather conditions. Performance tires are also soft rubber compounds. All season tires are made for good wear characteristic not necessarily the best grip.
I have used the Nokian Wrg3 and now the Wrg4 and I'm very happy with them
Love my sumitomo ice edge winter tires, on my 2016 Chevy Cruze, gets me around gross WV whenever I need it
Here in Portland, OR, I feel everyone should buy these. We usually get a few inches to half a foot each year, and everytime no one knows how to drive in it. I think it would make a huge difference in traffic, as well as let more people make it to the mountain without chains for weekend fun in the snow
Been running Bridgestone Weather Control A0005 all weather tyres for past 14months. Excellent in the rain and slushy mud. Not had a chance to try in the snow as last winter was pretty mild. Wear appears to be slightly more than previous summer tyre, but not bad. Have noted a small increase in fuel consumption, like 2mpg so not desperate.
Hey Guys. Milestar also has an all weather (rated) tire out, Weatherguard AW365. Looks like its time for a new tire roundup.
Interesting video! I would be curious to see how the range changes in the winter since this is the first tesla to have a heat pump.
I ran Good Year Vector tyres on my FIAT Panda 4x4 Cross here in the U.K. Really great genuine all season tyres (and a brilliant little car).
I have the European version here in the UK, absolutely fabulous, no downsides found so far, great in the wet, dry and on the occasional snow we get here. Don't do drag races so not an issue for me!
We have had those in Europe for years. Great tyres
@@leopoldlodewijkfilipsmaria8064 Hes talking about the CrossClimate+ which they have had for a few years now and are almost the same but the V2 has slightly higher tread wear ratings because we in North America tend to travel more/longer distances and slightly different tread pattern.
I have these on my Model 3, they are amazing year round. It has been snowing a lot in the Pacific Northwest and these CrossClimate2 tires are amazing!
How is the range after replacement?
@@premsun wondering the same. Heard a lot of reduced mpg
@@buildingsalvage I ended up sticking to continental OEM for the same reason.
Would be interesting to see how effective the traction control is vs another car with all-weather or snow tyres. :)
I have a Model 3 Performance in the UK, our roads are really rough and there's a lot of heavy rain making them easy to hydroplane on if you don't drive properly. So far, the stability control has been amazing.
Though the light doesn't appear on the screen, you can sometimes feel the car braking individual wheels and pulling the power when needed to keep you going in a straight line.
That was Amazing
You know it's cold when the snow squeaks.
ALL-WEATHER TIRES have been around since 2002.
I believe Nokian was the first and are on the fourth gen of these tires now. I put a set on my daughters car for the Kansas winters last year and they do very well. I no longer run all-season tires because these all-weather do very well in the Colorado mountains during the winter months!
Looking at the Michelin CrossClimates, I remembered one time when my workplace installed a set of 245/45R20 CrossClimate SUVs on a Dodge Challenger. Believe me, this isn't the first muscle car to have all-weather tires. And, probably, it won't be the last.
great tire and wheel combo on the tesla!
I had All Weather Nokian WRG2s on my Volvo V50 about a decade ago. They worked really, really well year round. I was constantly amazed at their capabilities in deep snow.
I bad then tk and I thought they were absolutely horrible especially I’m wet roads
I installed the Michelin CrossClimate2 in my RAV4 SE and I noticed that, like you said, a little stiffer ride and a little more tire noise from the road... since it does not yet snow in my area, I cannot tell if it will do well in the snow.
Thanx for great video 👌 Now, we all need a link for that Hula Hula Lady you have on your dashbord 🤩🤓
I have CrossClimate2 tires on my 2016 Accord coupe V6 6MT. Drove with them in a blizzard. They took me uphill on an unplowed road. Got stuck in a drift driving home and was able to rock myself out. If you get stuck with these, you needed studs or chains.
There's a few of things that in my experience a surprising number of people don't understand. 1) All or 4 wheels drive will only helps you move off and maintain better control when moving, but do little to help when braking. 2) Electronic aids can not overcome the laws of physics. 3) Good tires in the winter can supersede both 1 and 2. Though I am very interested in this new generation of tire, because I'm one of those people who has 2 sets of rims for both summer and winter tires, but have often found it difficult to make the call as to when to make the switch.
Sounds like a good set of tires to have in snowy environments.
I've got those tires for good two years now, they a little louder than a regular ones, not so good in wet (cornering) but overall a really good tire. And they looks like new, with minimal excessive wear.
Do they affect fuel economy?
@@GHinWI Not that I noticed. The summer tires that I had before were a little bit stickier but with lesser grooves. So there’s maybe a 2-3% difference in consumption. It’s 34 mpg average, city driving before and after the tire swap. On the highway it’s about 47 mpg. All US. gallon. In metric it is 6.9 and 5.0 l/100 km.
TFL, You should take these tires on the expressway and tell us how noisy they are at say 75mph. Especially compared to the stock tires.
Watch tyre reviews that bloke explains all
I have the "original" Cross Climate tires on my daughter's car (for two years now). They are quite a bit noisy and the ride is a bit stiff. However, if you don't mind the thread block noise, they are a very good all-around tire that can handle snow very well, and do a good job in icy conditions when I compare them to the Michelin X-Ice 3 winter tires.
I think I found my next tires! (Thanks, guys)
Great snow and ice test drive, there. Looks like you are in my home territory, Durango, maybe up at Tamarron or Edgemont or Skyridge. We'll be getting our MY with the heated steering wheel and the 19in wheels with those beautiful Michelin CrossClimate 2 tires. Cheers, see you around.
Yeah I agree, there are these new all weather tires that are just great. I exchanged my stock Audi SQ5 21" rims with summer tires for a set of Goodyear all weather, Weather Ready 20" tires and new rims. They are great all year round, so much so, that I decided to sell my OEM 21" rims and tires. I live in the North East and get most certainly snow every year. So this all season tire is great.
So far so good with these Michelin All Weather tires in and on this frozen hard snowy surface,.. now hopefully you can do this when the weather warms a little to give you a wet and more slippery snow surface.
This seems to be a test of tires as much as it's a test of this model Tesla,.... so far I'm impressed with these Michelins,...then again Michelin always does impress ( me ) , even though I am
running on B.F.Gs now! ( but, guess who makes/owns B F G tires )
Love the father and son banter. 😁
We have had all weather tires for at least 15 years now in Canada🇨🇦
All season? They have been around forever
All weather
First time hearing about these
@@MrRaErickson One of the first was Nokian. And their WRG series tires. I had WRG2's on my old 2007 Cobalt.
And snow chains?
I put a set of these on my 2019 Pacifica last month (245/50R20). Much better grip then the Falken's that came on it!
The all weather's have improved quite a bit. I saw a test recently (German/ Dutch?) and a good all weather tyre was better in summer conditions than a mediocre/average summer tyre.
All weather tires been on the market for a while. It is crazy how many people have not ever heard of them. I have Toyo Celsius on my car and they are amazing.
I have them on my Alfa Romeo Giulia (RWD) and let me tell you, in a straight line, these tires are so grippy my car now feels like a four wheel drive. On wet pavement with loose pieces of tarmac they can still cause a bit of sideways action in corners. It has happened to me twice now and thankfully the car corrected itself within miliseconds, but I did not expect that from a tire otherwise so grippy. I have not had the chance to test them in winter conditions. I think on snow they will be fine, but on ice, you’ll probably still need chains.
I run winter tires year-round in Alaska because the cost for new tires is insane. We just replace them every 3 years and have had no issues with winter driving nor summer. Our last set of tires we squeezed the fourth year and they were just replaced with a new set. The local tire shop wanted $1300 for a set of mid-grade tires mounted. We were able to order some from amazon and have them installed for less than $500 total this time. That was not an option four years ago when we bought our last set.
These are called all season tyres in Europe and have been around for a long time. The Michelin Cross Climate has been around for at least 6 years and these are more summer based performance with good performance in winter conditions. The US market is getting the latest cross climate 2. I use them all year round on 2 of my cars. Although you dont get the ultimate performance of a dedicated summer or winter tyre the differences are small and you dont have to keep swappingvtyres for the seasons. The channel Engineering Explained discusses the design of the CC 2 while Tyre Reviews provides road tests.
been using all weather tires( nokian weatherproof suv) for 4 years now and they still grip and work well in the snow, not good as the first two years but they still hold the road like a goat. and btw the weather here can vary from -10 degrees in the winter to 30 degree in the summer. so yes all weather tires works really well and surprisingly they dont wear out easily
I put these tires on my Lexus RX 450H but I have the Michelin Cross Climate 2 and it is nice on dry roads as well it has nice center fill and they are pretty quit. On the Lexus RX I have P235 55R 20" and it is so much better than the OEM tires. As you go around a corner you never lose grip and it just goes straight as come out of the turn does not give me a harsh ride. It is a wonderful tire. There is nothing that the competitors can come close to this tire.
You guys like to teach people, which I am 100% for. You should show that a low center of gravity awd vehicle like a subaru is best for slick, or icy plowed roads. If you live somewhere where the roads aren't plowed, a high center of gravity, lots of ground clearance Jeep, Truck etc with big mud and snow tires is best.
What tire size did you use for the MY?
I have the older crossclimate suv on my 2 of my cars. I love the year around stability and convenience, but they’re LOUD. I was hoping Michelin would have greatly improved the noise on these newer generation crossclimate 2.
Those Michellin Crossclimates have been around for a while now. At least three or four years. They are not the only all season to have the three peak mountain snowflake symbol either. The Goodyear Assurance Weatherready also has it.
i miss nathan.
What are the specs for your Martian wheels and crossclimate tires? I can’t seem to find matching fitments
A separate video by another TH-camr tested these tires on their MY and the tires were 255/60R20 with Snow icon and M+S indication.
@@stevedowler2366 can you post the link to the video
If it’s really 11F in the video, snow has decent grip when it’s that cold. Would like to see a tea with these tires closer to 30F and on the slushy stuff we normally see in the city.
Got these a couple weeks ago on my 2018 Subaru outback. The Goodyear Kelly edge tires were basicak new with 3000 miles. These cross climate just blow the Kelly's away on wet traction, wet braking and wet cornering. I can't believe how much the Kelly's sucked as I pushed and understeered in corners.
Good lads... I've just bought a land rover Freelander 2 and was thinking of putting these tyres on it Andy's have just made my mind up 👌👌
Great test guys, what i would really be interested in the same test in much colder temps something like -10 to -20c . at 0 most tires are drivable when new, however this looks like it is acting like a proper winter tire in this test.
You should test those tires again while it is snowing hard and between 26 to 30 degrees, where you get that really slippery snow that is somewhere between packed and powder. (I assume Colorado snow is similar to Utah snow?) I bet they are much worse in those conditions. Both my Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8s and Michelin X-Ice Snow tires struggle to get my car moving from a stop in those conditions. Then again, my BWM is RWD so that doesn't help. I never have traction issues in packed or powder snow.
I use T Rules app for planning climate. It's really cool and I never forget to climate each morning after waking up!!!
I got tired of waiting all day to get my winter tires put on up here in Alaska so I bought a good mid level rim clamp tire machine and a balancer. I use Bridgestone Blizzaks.
Why not just a separate set of steelies for the winters? Definitely a cheaper option. Lol
@@JustKieffer Rims for my 22" Escalade are almost $800 each, then I have to buy another set of sensors plus the programming tool, and I have an Equinox as well. Plus nobody has those aftermarket Escalade rims in Alaska, and the shipping from outside is outrageous. I have been mounting tires for over 40 years, rather do it myself anyway, tire men are usually less payed and really don't give special attention to rims, mine were severely corroded.
Learned about the tires from engineering explained youtube channel , but I feel this video is more about the tires though lol good none the less
I had Nokian Weatherproof tyres on my Subaru Outback- more winter bias than Cross climate- it was phenomenal in the snow, great in summer also- cheaper but hard to source in Ireland.
I use CrossClimates for most of the year but I do use Michelin X-Ice tires for most of the winter.
Lol, I just heard about the crossclimate 2 and wondered if it would be a good tire for the Model 3 ins the snow... and here's a video on TFL about it!
They are testing Crossclimate (version 1.0) not the 2. CROSSCLIMATE2 gives more wear thicker rubber and is better for wear.