The Rolex Submariner is Not Our Best Selling Model | Luxury Watch Market Q&A - June 2023

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  • Your watch market questions answered by watch dealers here at Watchtrader in the UK. #watches #greymarket #luxurywatches #rolex
    0:00 Coming up…
    0:54 Do you think Rolex will ever discontinue the non-date Submariner?
    2:33 What was the first watch you ever sold?
    4:14 Omega Planet Ocean or Tudor Black Bay, which will hold it’s value?
    4:59 Which Brand is the most undervalued and which is the most overvalued?
    7:49 Is the Rootbeer a good investment?
    9:16 Can you tell when a watch case has been laser repaired?
    10:22 What is the best watch for £3000?
    11:16 If someone wants to start a watch business, whats the best way to get contacts?
    12:33 What are the 6 watches any collector should have in their collection?
    14:22 What’s your best selling watch?
    14:40 Do the diamonds on a pavé dial Yacht-Master shine as bright as an RBR bezel?
    15:59 Are the Rolex Submariner Dates gaining or loosing value at the moment?
    17:31 Does icing out a Rolex watch increase or decrease the value?
    18:48 What is the best watch for a one watch collection?
    19:20 How well does the two tone Datejust 36mm sell compared to the steel?
    20:12 Is the market going up or down at the moment?
    20:46 Should I service and polish my 21 year old GMT-Master II?
    21:53 Should I sell or hold my 2022 Rolex smooth bezel and diamond hour marker Day-Date?
    22:40 Can you talk about the Platinum Day-Date with the meteorite dial please?
    23:25 Was my Batman purchase a good buy?
    23:44 Can you source a Tudor Black Bay burgandy and
    sell it for less than the retail price?
    24:57 Should I be put off by the price drop of the AP 15500 blue dial?
    25:47 Is £14,000 a good price for a 2 year old Starbucks?
    26:24 Are the AP Royal Oak Offshore Divers good value?
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  • @Matt-uq3in
    @Matt-uq3in ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The submariner is pure class with out the cyclops wort classic 🔥🤟

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s just a timeless timepiece

  • @Tommy_ZM
    @Tommy_ZM ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A. Lange & Sohne is an incredible brand. Gorgeous

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The market doesn’t appreciate them enough

    • @PanSearedRibeye68
      @PanSearedRibeye68 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only they could design their lugs better. They look like pocket watches with some lugs welded on as an afterthought.

  • @vintagecrazyjay4970
    @vintagecrazyjay4970 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was fun hanging out with you all on this episode, learned a lot. Cheers!

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it, ‘til next time

  • @russellis6993
    @russellis6993 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every question based on price ! What happened to buying a watch because you like it and want to wear it … 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @ElGwapo1927
    @ElGwapo1927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed that gentlemen. Knowledgable experts sharing their thoughts in an honest and open way. Would love more of the same. Just make the videos longer!

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for letting us know - more to come soon!

  • @TheColnago
    @TheColnago ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finally a group of watch enthusiasts that are not hating on Rolex. Fun episode, gents. Subscribed.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video - appreciate it

    • @OBWAT
      @OBWAT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A group of 'watch enthusiasts' that talk exclusively about rolex prices for half a hour? Yea, not my definition of watch enthusiast. They are enthusiastic about making money for sure

  • @milesrickman9270
    @milesrickman9270 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job with this video! I like when you have these Q&A segments because everyone knows you guys are brilliant. Your opinions help us viewers see what to add to a collection and what price is fair. Thanks for all you gents do for us watch collectors and enthusiasts. Keep up the wonderful work. That’s a great staff working together,that you have. Everyone is so enjoyable and energetic,kind and honest.

    • @frankm4129
      @frankm4129 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t understand you guys you said is safe place to put your money so that’s basically an investment. That’s what people do put money into things that are safe you don’t spend 30 40,000 on something unless you think it’s safe
      Rolex is safe and it is an investment. If you buy it at the right price it will stay safe or go up in value that’s an investment.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciate the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the video

  • @Tommy_ZM
    @Tommy_ZM ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nothing better than getting the Watchtrader notification bell. Watching this now, keep up the great work gentlemen 👍

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s extra motivating to read comments like this - much appreciated

    • @Tommy_ZM
      @Tommy_ZM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Watchtrader All you guys are brilliant. I love the team, could listen to Hendo and Stu for hours. Keep it up and wish you the best

  • @thedeeprot
    @thedeeprot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍

  • @TheWessywes
    @TheWessywes ปีที่แล้ว

    Always informative and interesting, honestly always enjoy the videos and an easy watch. Thanks for the content, big Hendo fan. :)

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for letting us know - Hendo will appreciate it I’m sure!

  • @rumcoke9123
    @rumcoke9123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Payed 3600 Canadian for the Submariner Date in 2000. Got a 10% discount brand new. Basically you could get any Rolex with a 10% discount except the steel Daytona. Got one in 97 for 7200 Canadian retail ( lucky ) as was buying an engagement ring and the owner offered it to me even though he has huge waiting list. My advice is never buy above MSRP for any Rolex except maybe a steel Daytona.

  • @jacobgill3630
    @jacobgill3630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou for including my question guys! Keep up the great work as per 👍🏻

  • @ianmitchell1594
    @ianmitchell1594 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for such a great video which really helped me understand the watch industry 👍 I’ve got a date just on order but I’m looking for a 1963 Rolex, so might pay you a visit soon

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Brilliant Ian, which dial and combination on the Datejust? Feel free to get in touch about the 1963 anytime

  • @michaelfierman3256
    @michaelfierman3256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great having a bonus episode this week guys! Some great questions there. Cheers ✊🏻

  • @chumpey
    @chumpey ปีที่แล้ว

    04:23 - asked about the Planet Ocean, got an answer about the Aqua Terra 🤣

  • @johnfoley865
    @johnfoley865 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your knowledge is heartwarming

  • @michaelmccormick9469
    @michaelmccormick9469 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great talk there lads…. Great insight! Definitely worth doing again. Keep up the good work. 👍

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback Michael 🙏

  • @chipmacgill
    @chipmacgill ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally I don’t like date indicators on any watches. Unless I had some kind of perpetual, like that Lange. We all have phones, almost no one needs a watch any longer. Which makes me wonder why I have so many. I guess just because we want them. Nice convo, guys!

  • @jokeassasin7733
    @jokeassasin7733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've currently reached a happy place with my watches. The next major purchase will be a vintage yellow gold day-date. But, that wont be for a while.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you have in the current collection? A gold Day-Date is timeless

  • @Benjijordanrolex
    @Benjijordanrolex ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video! I enjoy hearing the stories and your insight. Hendo is a ledge… 👌🏻

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Too kind, thanks for watching 👊

  • @petercarter1107
    @petercarter1107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome format and video, flows great. Keep these coming!

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciate the feedback - glad you enjoyed it

  • @BAF605
    @BAF605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great show guys. Q and A every couple of months would be good.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Noted - Thanks for the feedback

  • @itsallrobbish
    @itsallrobbish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting site. I really respect these guys for hat they know. Cant believe how much love there is out there for Tudor and of course Rolex, but with the exception of the discussion re Lange, there is not a great deal of focus on Sinn, Damasko or German brands in general, when in reality, these are easily as well made as Swiss counterparts. I guess they are less jewellery (which these guys deal in) and more tool watches. For me, a T50 U1 or U50 isright up there with one of my favourites, the Pelagos 39. They are also less about investements and just watches that will be used day in, day out and not for showing off. Good to watch, impressed with these guys expertise.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We appreciate the feedback. You’re not wrong, the brands you mention are well loved by enthusiasts. The topics we cover are in response to the questions of the audience and it just so happens that much of the focus is around Rolex in this video

  • @jeeves951
    @jeeves951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your channel is 10 times better than Nico’s thanks for the content.

  • @charliegeorgeparfitt9147
    @charliegeorgeparfitt9147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @watchtrader thank you for answering my question! Really enjoy the vids keep going boiis

  • @ScotchOnyx
    @ScotchOnyx ปีที่แล้ว

    18:52 I cannot agree more the 116500LN can fit small and large wrist and both men and women. Absolute best one watch collection.

  • @robfryer9962
    @robfryer9962 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely loved this episode….saving up as we speak 👍🏻

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear it Rob - hope we can do a deal when the time comes

  • @comeonman7423
    @comeonman7423 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was fantastic! Thanks for the content lads !

  • @dkpirie
    @dkpirie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was interesting & enjoyable, only thing was Stu looked bored and couldn't be bothered doing the Q & A most of the time.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate the feedback Del - haha that’s just his poker face

  • @krfrench55
    @krfrench55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a cool format, good questions

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the feedback Kyle

  • @ccw5886
    @ccw5886 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting . Thanks guys

  • @davidemammarella3638
    @davidemammarella3638 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you guys ... top video, well done !!

  • @alexjohnson3220
    @alexjohnson3220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fellas, this was incredible. Loved watching this 👏

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the feedback 👌

  • @kahuhipajae4088
    @kahuhipajae4088 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job gents, really enjoyed.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for letting us know 👍

  • @kadechilds201
    @kadechilds201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another episode yess what a treat ⌚

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching 👌

  • @whathappendnext5887
    @whathappendnext5887 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video. Thx guys

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for letting us know - more to come

  • @jjpthe2
    @jjpthe2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyable. Thanks

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for letting us know, glad you liked the video

  • @dantan6952
    @dantan6952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The guy asking the questions looks and sounds quite similar to Adam Swords, who is Producer Michael’s Camera/Video person.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha you’re not the first to mention that

  • @arthurisohanni7041
    @arthurisohanni7041 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video again! Love these

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the feedback!

  • @ianmanfren1003
    @ianmanfren1003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers for the video lads and for answering my question......TH-cam fame at last!!!!!!

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for asking Ian - hope the video doesn’t disappoint!

  • @Jackscaf
    @Jackscaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely bonus episode while im by the pool in crete

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm, maybe we need an sunnier filming location 🤔

  • @michaelcoode1689
    @michaelcoode1689 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve just got a hesalite speedmaster in a cool box recently new love it and still not bankrupt Rolex are beyond me but did try on a submariner no date by a extremely friendly goldsmiths staff member but love my seamaster

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      The Speedmaster is a great watch - especially the hesalite of you like to stay true to the original. Thanks for watching!

  • @garyguest1885
    @garyguest1885 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting video nice one 👍🏻

  • @matthewdale956
    @matthewdale956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent episode...cheers

  • @kevinashton709
    @kevinashton709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video guys 👍

  • @xFRASER92
    @xFRASER92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Class watch this lads 👏

  • @adamrhysjones7
    @adamrhysjones7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pacifically

  • @markgiles8527
    @markgiles8527 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d like to see the Submariner Date loose the cyclops. The date is great, but the cyclops….

  • @kearnsy65
    @kearnsy65 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @stevenoasis1
    @stevenoasis1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he say Hublot was value for money? I actually quite like Hublot design but wouldn’t class them as value for money. (I maybe misheard!). Great chat though lads, enjoyed that.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, when buying pre-owned they can be had for well under their original price. Thanks for tuning in!

    • @stevenoasis1
      @stevenoasis1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Watchtrader ah ok. Thought meant at retail. Cheers!

  • @HellhoundX90
    @HellhoundX90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Submariner. I have tried a few on and borrowed one off a mate for a week when I was contemplating purchasing one. I personally found it uninspiring and boring. Personal opinion.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Chris, interesting, which watch do you currently wear? Did you decide on something else?

  • @SgHawk144
    @SgHawk144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pacificaly 🌊

  • @LongFinger021
    @LongFinger021 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hendo used to sell sundials back in the day 😂

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Can’t deny it 🌞😂

  • @michaelgough995
    @michaelgough995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Class this!

  • @stevenbird1431
    @stevenbird1431 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice little chilled video tonight guys!! Keep these coming👍

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it, will do

    • @draganbalzic4493
      @draganbalzic4493 ปีที่แล้ว

      26:03 £40,000 for a stainless sub? A foole and his money… Thomas Tusser’s 'Five Hundred Pointes of Good Husbandrie' 1573

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll remember that! 😂

  • @Ride_on54
    @Ride_on54 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always Rolex 🙄im in love with my stainless steel Tag Monaco mix it up fellas with a Square watch classic 🤙

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha we get it - however, the questions we’re from the community. The Monaco is a cool watch though, agreed 👌

  • @daveylawson
    @daveylawson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stu is very pacific

  • @Exciteddelirium1
    @Exciteddelirium1 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Hublot is nothing compared to an A.P, its a little bit more fancy than a Designer brand and priced way too high for non in house movement parts.

  • @fatbeaverlol
    @fatbeaverlol ปีที่แล้ว

    working for Hoyer? the transport company in europe?

  • @You-in6lm
    @You-in6lm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    .Patek philippe the end

  • @yup4391
    @yup4391 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not a "non date" sub It's just a "sub" and then there's the sub "with date" but you already know that 👌

  • @craftycumbrian3561
    @craftycumbrian3561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hendo looking more and more like a fifties Italian movie star.. it’s amore..

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Careful you’ll inflate the ego! 😂

  • @PabloTBrave
    @PabloTBrave 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The none date submariner is the true submariner . The one with the date is the variant.

  • @alanjackson2712
    @alanjackson2712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's interesting that nobody went for an AP or PP in their 3 watch set

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good spot, I think we had a more modest price point in mind. In future we could explore collections at different price points

    • @alanjackson2712
      @alanjackson2712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is very interesting to hear people with your level of experience discuss the watch market

  • @darrenh0218
    @darrenh0218 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I visit your office in person as to order online?

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      You can call in or make an appointment any time

  • @marcrose9018
    @marcrose9018 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of Pacific knocking about in this vid not much specific.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      🌊🤷‍♂️

    • @marcrose9018
      @marcrose9018 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Watchtrader pronunciation of specific 😆, enjoyed the vid none the less

  • @aaronwilson8624
    @aaronwilson8624 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most stupid quote ever “What should concern him, because it’s gone from £80k to £40k in less than 6 months?” - yes, that’s exactly why he is concerned.

  • @kuly8761
    @kuly8761 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been trying to join the WhatsApp group but it doesn’t work. Not just the link on this video but previous videos too

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm, do you have the latest version of WhatsApp installed and are you clicking the link from your phone?

    • @kuly8761
      @kuly8761 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got it now. Thank you. I had to click on default browser app 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @neha7445
    @neha7445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny - you got no idea whats coming - good luck.

  • @Falla76
    @Falla76 ปีที่แล้ว

    It immediately sounds like you just want to sell what you actually have in stock, not what the buyer may really want. Let’s be for real, it’s hard to sell a brand new Rolex Submariner if you rarely have any in stock! So of course it’s not going to be your “best selling model,” and of course this would apply to all the other luxury watch distributors. Just another greedy business just trying to sell you something, anything while at the same time calling you a “friend.” Rs

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your feedback. We have multiple Submariner models available for purchase at any one time

  • @Kelsdoggy
    @Kelsdoggy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hublot and Richards Mille are the worse

  • @jonodunn2592
    @jonodunn2592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been in the WhatsApp group a while but I’ve never seen any of these “pacific” watches stu mentions 😂

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just the Atlantic ones recently I’m afraid

    • @jonodunn2592
      @jonodunn2592 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Watchtrader ha ha I’ll have to come check them out

  • @augere9620
    @augere9620 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:23 this is a terrible take. Expand your horizons and only have 1 rolex in a 3 watch collection. I feel as if to many people ride Rolex to hard just because of their name they have built.

  • @jackominty3633
    @jackominty3633 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hendo, a Hublot looks like a Royal Oak? You know better than to say that. Now, wash your mouth out with soap, and get your mind right. Holy Moley!

  • @bigrichardsmith
    @bigrichardsmith ปีที่แล้ว

    Boring video too long

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback

  • @IrishScribbler
    @IrishScribbler ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve seen the guy with the beard speak so much sense in the past and this is no exception. Great stuff chaps.

    • @Watchtrader
      @Watchtrader  ปีที่แล้ว

      Too kind, thanks for tuning in!

  • @peterohanarha-hanrahan4707
    @peterohanarha-hanrahan4707 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fookin hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂