Current Rolex Money Makers Vs. Models to AVOID - How Much We Pay (GMT-Master II, Explorer, Day-Date)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- UK watch dealer reveals how much they pay for Rolex watches, in particular, the Explorer, GMT-Master and Day-Date models. We discuss which models you can buy brand new and then sell on for a profit. We also cover the specific models within each range that watch dealers will buy for under the retail price. #rolex #watches #watchdealer #luxurywatches
0:00 Video Trailer
0:37 Introduction to buy or pass
1:04 Explorer
2:52 Explorer II
4:42 GMT-Master II
12:46 Day-Date
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Always really good info and provided with fun. Love the midweek episodes along with Sunday of COURSE. Cheers
Great to see you in the comments and always happy to hear you’re enjoying the content
What’s this midweek content, love it lads.
Every Sunday’s video is always eagerly awaited.
Thanks
Legend, thanks for tuning in Andy
Excellent overview of the current market. I really enjoy these....keep em coming!! Thanks!
Really pleased to read that. Thanks for letting us know
Hi Guys, great knowledge and insight, I have learned a lot from you. When are you doing part 3? Keep up the good work
Love the transparency, keep up the good content guys
Thanks a lot for tuning in!
Good stuff lads, looking forward to part 3 👍
Coming soon 👌
Todays lemons are tomorrows paul newmans
Very good point 👏🏾
Any specific model perfections? Thanks for tuning in!
@@Watchtraderexplorer II polar and deepsea James Cameron is a future "Newman" classic 💯
Great point.
Very likely tomorrows rotten lemons 🍋
Alreet lads, could u explain “on consignment” please.
Great video with very good content 👍👍
Great video!! Nice to hear your thoughts on the GMTs. Thanks for doing this. It looks as though both Josh and John are wearing the Root Beer. One of my favorites. Very interesting comments on the other watches and values. Always very helpful.
Glad this video was of value to you. Always appreciate the feedback
Fascinating and so interesting to hear your thoughts, as we can all see the watch market changing from the madness that went before! As always great presentation guys! Looking forward to part 3! Brilliant stuff! 👍🏽
Really appreciate the feedback, helps us improve and bring you guys better content going forward.
Great mid week video, cheers fellas
Thanks a lot Ian 🙏
Well done again lads, really appreciate your hard work and time, Keep up the great work 👍🏿🎉💯
Really pleased to read that. Thanks for letting us know
Please can you do a 2024 version of this
Loved the content again guys. Keep up the great work. I was lucky to purchase a Explorer ll white dial a few months ago at my Boutique. Would never sell it but nice to know theres profit there if needed.
Great choice on Explorer II, we hope it serves you well. Thanks for the feedback
Brilliant format
Thanks for letting us know
Great video. How do you think the meteorite GMT will fare over the next few years?
Great content guys please keep it coming 🙏
Thanks for tuning in
Great video, with just the right amount of detail. Any thoughts on the DD40 228239 w the meteorite dial. The GMT version gets talked about the most, but not so much the DD one
Thanks - it’s a watch that we buy under list and it sells for a little over
Nice video, shall I say no to steel datejust?
Thanks again guys, fantastic content.
We appreciate the feedback, cheers
Love this episode 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the feedback
You both pronounce „Eisenkiesel“ perfectly. Greetings from Hamburg
Brilliant, at least we got that one right 🙏Thanks for letting us know, hope you enjoyed the video!
Very good info and I'd say fair warning. Two years ago as Jon and Stuart say many Rolex models were selling way above retail, far fewer now. I know you guys trade to make money in every market (it's in the name after all 😊) but Josh's favourite strap line at the height of the madness was "You can't go wrong" and that was the message across the whole grey market so I'm not making a personal dig. Clearly many did. Any comments in hindsight?? I enjoy your content so please don't take this as an attack. Just interested in how you view things looking back and have you modified your plans looking forward??
Great comment, the response requires some context as to which watch models we’re referring to. If we’re mainly talking about Rolex sports models in steel, if you look at the value over a long period of time, history has shown that they tend to appreciate. We may revisit this topic in a future video. Thanks for watching as always
For the last forty years, I always purchased unworn Rolex ⌚️ watches from the Grey Market that I liked in precious metal. I won’t be changing my habits. 🙏
Do you have a view on the Rainbow Day Date 36?
I see markups are on the high side based on the current market conditions.
John is amazing to listen to. His charisma is unparalleled.
he could be saying anything to me and I will buy what he says
Appreciate the kind words
Met Hendo the other day in Sandyford. What a bloke talked to me like I had known him for years. What a guy.
Spotted in the wild haha - thanks for watching!
Great content!
Appreciate it
Harry you are really coming on with presenting here well done, good crack guys 👍
Thanks a lot Ian 👊
Great content!
Has anyone ever thought it would be nice to have the inner clasp, the side that touches your wrist, in matte? The polished part that sits on your wrist can get a bit tacky but I think its meant to grip the wrist? ❤
Thank you - can’t say we’ve had that request before but you might be right about the polish for grip
Super informative keep it up🤙👌🇵🇱
More to come!
@@Watchtrader yeeeee🤙👏👏👏👏👌
where are you seeing prices for 40mm gold day dates under msrp for a few years old ? Cheapest I can find is msrp on a gold Champaign dial.
Lovely info, very interesting! For the day-date 40, 2023, would the yellow gold green face be a better choice than the rose gold chocolate? And would you buy both over list at present?
Thanks, gold, green dial sells more at this moment, it’s newer and there are less in the market. Yes we offer over list for the yellow gold, green
What about the Datejust Models?
Really want to start buying and selling watches
Could be time to get started. Thanks for watching
Eisenksiel is
My grail day date i could probably get into it but its too much to wear daily for me at least
Nice episode 👏
Glad you liked it
ty guys
Thanks for tuning in
Would be interesting for a view on the Subs… the Bluesy?
Hey, we covered the Submariner in part 1 about 2 weeks ago. Check it out on the channel 👌
Great vid as always chaps. John really has his finger on the pulse of the market, Stu is always v impressive and Harry you are just a ledge. Josh I love you and your Ombre Nomade too, but you weren't on the vid! All in all, different class as a team!! See you soon fellas!! x
Oi oi bruv
@@iannicholson2309 ❤️
Far too kind but much appreciated. Thanks for tuning in as always and see you soon!
You offered me £2500 for the brand new 2023 black bay burgundy on jubilee 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They trade for just 3,630. Can be massively surprised ?
I was offered £2,500 for a omega seamaster 2021 grey dial when I purchased a rose gold Daytona on oyster flex. They trade for £5,500 new and 4,000k used. Now that’s a con!
Of course went elsewhere
Do you still have it?
No mention of the Rolex Day-Date 40 in White Gold with fluted bezel and diamond baguette hour markers. Black or Silver dial.
Noted, maybe next time, we can’t cover every single configuration each time but thanks for the feedback!
Great video. I'm surprised the 40mm white gold / blue face Day Date isn't more. Seems like they were going at a big premium not long ago.
Like everything pure speculation, just few months ago they were advising on DD as the good buy and fair price having in mind precious materials case, and now its the watch that is not for stocklist...
White gold isn’t usually as popular as yellow and rose models - it costs more RRP and it isn’t easily distinguishable from steel to the untrained eye. That’s a plus for some and a negative for others…
@@Watchtrader Don't you mean isn't easily distinguishable to the untrained eye?
@@Watchtrader Reasonable, but how come DD40 Olive white gold was just few months ago one of the hottest in the range and now its RRP range? Its just build up hype and what I am trying to explain why these kind of videos are not fair, they are giving advice based on the current hype which changes in 3,4 months periods of time. Its just not quality and fair advice for anyone who is thinking long term, but anyway buy the watch you like not the watch you will flip.
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Yes, this video is based on the current market prices and what we are buying and selling for at present. We are only giving examples and not advising anybody to do anything. Regarding the white gold olive dial Day-Date, as with any watch, the price is driven by supply and demand. These watches are a luxury purchase and it’s personal preference regarding which model to buy or not.
What about a DJ41 rolesor in everose and Wimbledon?
We covered the Datejust Model in part 1 about 2 weeks ago - check it out on the channel 🙏
I am watching these wearing an SKX007J. Been a collector for a while and I am somewhat dreaming. I love diver’s watch most of all time pieces aside from speedtimers. I am looking to have my first rolex and from what I see, the once I like have the least investment possibility.
Buy the one you like first and foremost - it’s a luxury purchase. Holding or appreciating in value is a bonus.
Good you’ll didn’t talk of the Daytonas - steel and oysterflex. Probably blind buys across the range. Would’ve been good to get an update on market price though
Hey, we covered the Daytona model in part 1 about 2 weeks ago - check it out on the channel 👌
A couple of thoughts - notice how this purchasing advice is all about a brand new watch. There is no talk of what’s being offered for older worn pieces. Plus, buy a watch from a Rolex AD and immediately flip it into the grey market for profit… if Rolex find out, and they do, that’s you blacklisted from their system forever. So if you’re going this route make sure it’s a banger!
Yes, that’s right we’re talking about brand new 2023 pieces in this video. We take care to keep watch details private. Thanks for the feedback!
Pepsi new 2023 with jubilee at €18.700? (conversion from GBP).. Can't find one in Europe below 21k with everything in place
European prices can be quite strong compared to the UK watch market
1500 profit on a 6k explorer? Wow those are crazy margins
We don’t make £1500 profit, we might discuss this on a future video if there is interest
Obviously they don't make that. So many don't know how a business runs. Imagine all the costs involved in a brick and mortar store.
Have yous been drinking newcastle brown ale. LOL
Upload-mid week. I always enjoye all your content!!
😂 Wey aye! Thanks for tuning in
It interesting but I also really dislike this aspect of watch collecting. For me you should buy watches you love and invest money in compounding assets. If I’m
Buying a watch since someone says it might go up in value there is no love or joy in it. It isn’t a hobby then it is just straight consumerism.
do you have any stores in the US? Have a sprite jubilee unworn and a oyster pepsi unworn. Looking to sell.
The buyer on the left. Every time he talks it seems like he's trying to rip people off. I'd definitely steer clear of him. The one on the right seems alot nicer to deal with 😂😂
Yeah wheeler dealer.
Yup I would refuse to deal with the big lad
@@donndee3587 same here pal I've watched loads of their videos and I thought the same thing every time he comes on
Book & cover …….grow up , pathetic……
Definitely seems to hate his job , not a bit of crack or enthusiasm from him , defo wouldn’t want to be dealing with him
What watch is Stuart wearing? Cant seem to figure it out!
A lange
That’s right - A. Lange & Sohne Langematik Perpetual Calendar Platinum
@@Watchtrader fuck me, I need to urgently change my career to be a grey dealer it seems. Solid choice though, pure class.
Platinum too... The margins you guys make must be astronomical ha
Blue Sky Dweller is still the most highly desired Rolex to obtain at AD.. impossible almost to buy it seems!
The steel Daytona is arguably more difficult to obtain
Market value minus 30% seems to be their operating margin, less for consignment.
So take market, subtract 30% now subtract list. Positive number it’s a buy. Negative number it’s a pass.
For me only jubilee bracelets look good in bi metal.
It does give them some extra pop
For specific models this is not true ! GMT white gold is a solid investment! You will see in the future.
what watch would you guys recomend me buying right now for market as a long term investment?
First and foremost, watches are a luxury purchase - based on historic trends, steel sports Rolex tend to perform the best
@@Watchtrader okay, and do you think it is worth it to invest in a watch like that now or do you think the watch bubble has exploded and they wont go up again?
£11k for rolex explorer 2 😮… I am bidding on one at Sotheby’s auction for £6k .. perhaps it would go up a tad bit but definitely not £11k
Is it 2023 unworn?
@@Watchtrader nope it’s 2020 slightly used .. but why would someone pay and take the depreciation if it proves that over 2 years prices have literally halved from new .. proves not an investment piece and secondary market prices need to fall more..
Also proves Rolexes are not an investment anymore in general
Just want to say "Very watch-able" = Dad joke
Watch Wednesdays..... EXCELLENT👌
😂 haha love it
Love these videos but Stu, its "specific" not "pacific" :)
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He’s completely wrong about the GMT root beer at the moment. There are so many on eBay. Kettle Kids had a 2023 a few weeks ago for £16,500
How much would u pay for a 2022 dd36 eisenkisel box n papers
Please use the ‘Sell’ page on our website and we’ll send you an offer
When’s part 3?
We’re working on it now, soon don’t worry
Im happy to sell you the yellow gold 40 mm with green dial
Another top drawer video in this trilogy
Finally we can purchase Rolex now that the flippers have moved on.
Much appreciate the feedback - glad you liked it 👊
10 grand for that 2 tone explorer, Rolex are violating
Nothing against watchtrader or the lads, but this is everything wrong with the current market you should buy whichever model you want to keep and cherish or just like, not just to buy it and flip it for a profit
Fair comment, maybe in an ideal world. The reality is that the brands engineer the current situation as it benefits them. Hope you found this video entertaining anyways.
@@Watchtrader absolutely and Rolex do it better than anybody, enjoyed the content as usual (gent on the right, I only know of John) which dress watch is he wearing on this video it looks great
Totally agree with this comment. I bought a 126333 with silver baton and two tone gold fluted recently. Yes the Wimbledon dial is more ‘desirable’ and the steel only models but I don’t like them as much.
@@liamtalbot7801 A. Lange & Söhne
Anything over list is not good value.
Good value is when u buy under list
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And this ladies and gentlemen is why the watch market is FXKED for legitimate collector like me
Perceived value (watch) vs Real Value (gold) i'd rather go for GOLD. but if you are a die-hard collector or watch affecionados then you can't go wrong investing on these watches.
Thanks for tuning in
1. I didn't hear the word "Investment" in this video. Hmmmm.....
2. The margins are WoW!
3. Watch market is ........ 🤣
When did you last hear the word investment in our videos?
Oh and you just clipped and dropped a short. 🤣
Glad you love it - thanks for watching 🙂
I have never lost money on a a Rolex watch I purchased from the Grey Market. 🙏
Glad to hear it and thanks for watching
Excellent.
It’s so obvious you’re a reputable company, with 3 or 4 salesmen always on duty, plenty of stock, honest about prices and what you can get in and sell etc.
The other guy from Skipton is such a fraud - tiny shop, all counters no watches. Plus he talks in hypotheticals all the time and his company is obviously a one man band turning over pennies. “All fur coat and no knickers” as we used to say in Cullercoats!
(… and Whitely Bay 🎶) if you know, you know.
Hustlers recognize other Hustlers...and they are hustling the seller with these prices they buy at.
We appreciate your opinion.
BS to all of them …