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@@envoyofrot7046 It definitely is more useful, but there are plenty more powerful. I just wish one of the red lighting spears was a normal lighting spear with more damage instead of a ground slam.
@@thomasstewart1380 yea it would be cool to just... ya know... throw big spear instead of slamming into the ground. We aren't a 40 ft dragon, we are on level ground we need range not w/e bs they gave us. Imagine the double lightning spear threw 2 and IF they hit the terrain they cause ripples... now that would be fun
the animations for the golden order incantations are gorgeous, I love the arm and hand movements. What is disappointing is it seems like they didn't include the super cool looking incantation that was shown in the launch trailer (at approximately 1:45). It looks like the attack that the big flower enemies do, but it looked way cooler as an incantation in the trailer. Wish they had added that.
Like many incantations, it is in the game but the player can't use it. I hope we get a DLC surrounding the Erdtree/Miquella, because Melina uses both the light rain and a small Erdtree that heals over time, they would be so cool to have for the player, just like the golden wings from the crucible knights which are also related to the Erdtree! Though it shows in Melina's version of the Blade of Calling and the one we get so I'm not too hopeful unfortunately
It’s from blood borne and it was an arcane ability if I remember. Wasn’t good by any measure. Over or pvp it was basically useless unless you are trying to die but be be cheeky
@@UlsaPulsa I have a feeling the wings wouldn't be included because of the exploit potential lol, imagine flying over boss walls. If there was a way to cancel the animation you could do some serious glitches with the distance on the windup for it.
the animation for the Scarlet Aeonia incantation ( @13:38 ) is absolutely GORGEOUS. Of all the incantations in the game, I'm quite positive that's my favorite. It's just such a cool animation and seeing Malenia do it was so awe-inspiring. FromSoftware did a damn great job with the all the magic/spells. Not only are there a ton, there's so much variety. I agree with a comment a saw below though; seems the incantations have more variety/utility than sorceries. But I still think there are some super cool (and powerful) spells, no matter how you slice it. Excellent video and coverage of Elden Ring. Really appreciated the consistent video content and the useful info on the website. The game is way bigger than most of us thought so even with the gaps in information I'm still finding lots of useful things. Keep up the good work
Thanks for taking the time to make this. I love theming my characters for RP purposes and this helps. I just found all the Erdtree incantations, so my Tree Sentinel cosplay is done for the most part. Might try to get the Dragon Cult ones for an alt cosplay on the same toon. I have the Malformed dragon gear as well, so I think that would be fun for a NG+ play through.
@@legendarybrando348 I made mine light/lightning/fire theme and named myself Uriel, Gods Light. My next one is an ice mage named Ymir, king of frost and a lord of flies after that
@@jondoe8350 sounds like some cool builds. I don't remember what realign its from but ymir is a god. Im still making my strength arcane build but after that im gonna make either a dragon red lighting build or a death sorcerery mage build. Both sound cool and I'll probably make both but don't know which to do next.
Just wished that Scarlet Aeonia was more practical. It literally has nothing going for it aside from inflicting rot. It costs 3 memory slots, long wind up, big fp cost, can easily be staggered out of it, pretty low damage all things considered and very long recovery animation. Actually a lot of offensive incantations are very subpar, especially the lightning ones, only has two that are worthwhile and one for pvp.
@@fsl1323 Honestly I use incants as utilities to cause opening for a melee barrage, attacks like bestial sling have a good chance of knocking most sorcerer builds out of their casts and has massive follow up potential, with either a right handed melee or just spam fire it like you slam fire a 12 gauge. That and the fact that you can cast from mid air makes it my go to pvp incant.
@@lourencopopp3444 🤔 Madness 2 shot and unavoidable when hit with the first with massive range. Death lightning, lightning strike and every buff and debuff known to man, every damage negation you can think of. You're just not utilizing the builds correctly. All you're looking for is damage up front which is held in intelligence favor faith is really strong in the right hands and the most versetile in the whole game.
@@lourencopopp3444 Not to mention most of the dope weapons are faith based aside from moonveil sword of night and flame and wings of astel and darkmoon great. By far only good int weaps all other weapons that are decent to op are all faith based.
@@LauncherSpiderMk7 I would love that too, but I am jelly of int casters and their fancy magic summoned swords. A hammer would be perfect for a cleric summon
I just imagine Kalé sitting there with a look of stoic displeasure on his face while your character proceeds to wreck the Church of Elleh with all these incantations. XD
That Lore where the spells for the Two Fingers are made to negate damage of, sneak up on, and kill all the other ones. With some healing thrown on top to throw off the trail. "Oh me? I'm just a worshipper of the two fingers, healing the sick..." And then they go invisible and sneak up on you and kill you with poison!
The FP cost on incantations other than beast incants has is WAY too high in comparison to the damage sorceries are doing for way less. I’ve found a few buffs are worth it, catch flame is great for PvP, a few boss cheese spells like rot breath, but for the most part incants aren’t worth the FP over using it for weapon arts. It’s why I think str/faith using beast incants is the best faith build. 60 str/25 faith and use the dirt cheap beast buffs and heals and buff your str scaling weapon with a str scaling beast seal.
Try a dragon cult build. 30fp to do anywhere from 2-10k damage on a boss is pretty good. Especially if you are going strength and have poise. I have 25 mind and only need 2 blue flasks and i can buff and take out a boss with spells. Plus part of strenght faith is that you have a weapon for damage cause you are also going strenght where mages have lower weapon damage and more spell usage.
I think the idea for incants was an inbetween of being a physical damage character and magic user. Most of the incants have low int requirements with a tad of faith thrown in them meaning more physical damage focused players can invest a little into int, faith and arc with some and have some magic options. Alot of them have much faster cast times than some of the more powerful sorceries. There are some incants that are all faith and have high faith requirement but they do alot of damage. A good number of them are buffs tho where as sorcery only has Terra Magica as its only buff spell. Where as sorcery spells are all int and meant to be the glass cannon mage deal. I've seen some insane melee/incant builds so it's just how you make the build.
@@mastervaderog8021 I can't say much because I went easy mode, I knew off the bat full int mage builds were wrecking the game and I didn't want to play the "Definitive Dark Souls Experience" to where you face a boss who I am clearly under leveled for and die for 2 hours going insane before I finally beat him. I instead went straight for the meteorite staff and rock sling and absolutely obliterated early game. I started a warrior because I wanna try dual wielding with bloody slash and bleed status on my weapons but I haven't had any experience with the incant builds. I've seen alot of videos with them doing high damage. One guy kept throwing lightning spear and was doing 2 to 3k per shot. So again I have no idea what the str/faith incant builds play like but I've seen some nasty builds. Maybe you just didn't have the right incants?
I love the frenzy incantations. The whole idea of the flame of frenzy is genius and a very relatable metaphor for some of the feelings we humans feel IRL.
I wish these things were actually usable. They do decent damage (sometimes) and they can be useful (rarely) but 99% of the time you will get staggered out of it before for you can cast it. Like what the hell am I supposed to do with a crowd clearing aoe spell if it takes a hundred years to cast and if the enemy happens to fart in my general direction the spell is cancelled and my fp is gone. I really wish we could get hyper armor or something when casting. Even if we took all the damage it would be useful because we could actually get the spell off. Unfortunately as of now most incantations are a cool idea but impossible to practically use in combat.
agreed, something like the canvas talisman from DS3 (weapon art to increase poise for casting) would be extremely helpful, if not necessary, to make close range incantations more viable
Black Blade is a decent incantation to use at the start of the fight since it chunks away max HP and causes a DoT. Otherwise, you're better off using buffs and affinity infusions.
Tbh would have been nice to see these incantations in field rather than in a small environment. Half of the effects are lost on the walls of the church
Yeah let's make a hour and a half video to show what the spells can do on enemies. He couldn't have done this any better we just want to see what the spells are called to locate them
Damn! Didn't realize it was that many. The incantations in this game are so much fun. The only other game I can think of that out-does Elden Ring with magic is Dragon's Dogma sorcery
Incantations need a serious buff. Duration needs to be increased on support incants and damage needs to be increased on offensive incants. Compared to magic, it really is underpowered.
I think damage is probs going about it in the wrong way, sorcery is kinda all about damage while incantations are more utility and variety. I just think giving any of the longer cast incantations natural poise would make using them more viable even if the damage was the same. Half the reason they aren't good is cuz anything that does alot of damage can get easily stopped by an arrow or a rock or something before they even do anything.
@@sevirakalau2171 agreed, I don't believe they need buffs, just some poise to back up what they do, hell I fought against a few players using some of incantations and it has nutty damage.
I agree heavily on buff duration, but also, casting speed. If the buff drops off in a boss fight, you will NEVER get it back up, and you’re not getting a heal off, so those can’t be used in combat either.
frenzied burst is one of the best spells because of its range and the fact that it is essentially a fire spell, which means you can buff it with fire scorpion talisman and mixed physick
@@LauncherSpiderMk7 yea, i was surprised at the range because no faith build video ever talks about that. granted its not that good in small spaces against enemies that are aggressive.
@@ave5668 Yeah, it's strictly a long-range spell. Funny that Frenzy spells are either extreme close range, or extreme long range, and nothing in between.
@@LauncherSpiderMk7 it kind of is frustrating because there are no incantations that are as good as sorcery spells, because IMO faith spells look cooler but generally have longer casting times, no poise and are harder to hit
Frenzied Burst is literally one of my favorite incantations overall. Hits like a truck from very far. I literally just killed Juno Hoslow using only it, before the fight started haha
@Top Lobster I went with godskin apostle. The magic seems to compliment a melee build quite well and I can dump my stats rather than having to spread properly which is nice since I’m quite new to souls games. I think once I get a grasp on building I’m going to try a faith caster using a mixture of incants.
Every time I try to make a pure faith build, I end up drifting away. I really wish most casting incantations felt better. The ancient dragon series and the rings incantations especially.
And late-game bosses never give you a great window to use dragon spells unless they're focusing on your summon/cooperator. Even then, it's so easy for them to swap back to you that you can't cast it without taking a hit. The only dragon spell I ever maintained was Exzykes because it's Scarlet Rot is off the charts. After applying Scarlet Rot, I usually settle into throwing Blackflame or chucking Lightning Spear.
I REALLY wish there was an upgraded version of Lightning Spear that does more damage but also uses more FP. The dragon lightning spells look cool, but they're not very practical except for taking out large groups of weaker enemies. Really wish Ancient Dragon Lightning spear was thrown at enemies, rather than slamming it into the ground.
Hey love the vids I highly recommend making a god parry build, faith and Dex mainly using a parry shield with golden parry and misericorde dagger with lighting on it, also flame of Redmanes can break poise really easily so maybe something good to use with it
Niiccceee absolutely love the magic in game although I noticed quite a hefty lean towards faith casting; in my opinion the dragon and erdtree casts were the more varied and strongest and solely relied on upping faith which any class can do without sacrificing physical points which is badass
It looks cool, but they're all pretty useless in combat. You get hit by anything at all before the long animation is finished and the spell is cancelled and all your fp is gone
I have to say, incantation feels way more varied and overall more useful than sorceries. Sorceries lack variety in shapes/areas and damage type I feel. (and some straight up unusable lol) Glad I make an hybrid, best of both parts !
Seems that way. I don't have very many of either, tho I have more incantations than spells and I am building for faith/str. This video definitely makes it clear that incantations have lots of utility. I DO think that the sorceries have some really really gorgeous spells (that giant full moon one is so hypnotizing to me) and a lot of em are just downright powerful. But you're right, i think the only other damage type I've seen under INT/sorceries is frostbite. And it's pretty rare on weapons and spells, it seems.
I mean for pvp many incantations are worthless but quite a lot of sorceries are good as most have fast cast time so even if fp to dmg ratio for some sorceries is bad they have fast enough cast time to be at least more viable in pvp. many flashy incantations are so slow the person your fighting has already ran off did emote and started walking back before you finished the cast ;D, some spells like moon for sorcery are slow but they are quite decent in pvp as they start moving slow and you can chase the invader with the spell trying to catch them in a roll or off guard as they try to avoid the blast. I prefer incantation and my faith build is a lot of fun we do have versatility but in terms of pvp or even fast bosses faith can be very limited to just a tiny amount of spells which will usually be lighting strike as its fast and good dmg of course I still use slow incantation in pvp just its much harder to pull off without getting hit let alone actually hitting anyone :D the biggest hindrance for pure faith build is weapon choices are horrible, for pure intellect build you actually have a good pick of weapons and styles with very small requirements like dark moon great sword, its not the best but as great swords go it just needs 16 str most others need 20 or same amount of dex and str which is a bit of a punishment in stat allocation.
@@Julian-rt9qs A lot of high level sorceries are absolutely gorgeous indeed. Tbh i wish we had some other gravity spells doing AoE stuff, like with the gravity stones
Sorceries do WAY more damage for the FP. I have yet to find a justification to use a dragon breath spell over using most weapon arts. Edit: with the exception of cheesing certain bosses with rot breath.
@@kevinc8955 Some sorceries do, but a lot of high level ones really aren't that good. Magic shower or crystal release and such really aren't that good.
Thanks for putting this together. I notice you didn't showcase firing two magma breath shots in a row by pressing LB twice (though you did show it for the other version later).
A couple of notes for the unaware: Elden Stars creates a projectile which travels forward, shooting many smaller homing projectiles as it goes. Inside the enclosed space of that church it hit the wall and ended early, so we couldn't see its full glory. The Fire Monks' spells share a lineage with the Fire Giants' spells (same symbol when casting) for a reason. Notice how the Erdtree and Two Fingers incantations tend to display their symbol on the ground, surrounding the caster, instead of being projected next to the sacred seal.
I wish you had taken the time to show off the damage numbers or something, there are already like a million videos out there, that are in this exact same format just in a different location
Why no timestamps for every single incantation like in the sorceries video? It's a real nuisance to regularely search for a specific incantation like this 😠
honestly you don't really need a weapon if you go full faith/arcane. You can clear out trash mobs with something like lightning bolt, black flame, flame sling etc. and then for boss fights melt them with dragon spells. I still use a weapon though because Katana's and bleed weapons do so much damage with arcane you might as well save that FP for the boss
@@AlphaDwg Faith/Arcane is dragon priest. Pure faith, I agree with the OP. 60str/25 faith and a non faith weapon you can buff is really powerful since the buffs scale off strength with the beast seal. However, buffs are annoying to use, and it’s dubious whether the FP to cast them is really worth the opportunity cost of using the FP for a weapon art instead.
Whoever showcased all these incantations REALLY should have chosen a better location. A lot of the incantations had their effects blocked by the doorway. There is literally an open field next to the church.
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Maybe this could use a re-upload? Is this too long to make?
All these Incantations and I still can't stop relying on my trusty Lightning Spear.
And red lighting storm for bosses. Ive hit 12k from the multihits on big bosses
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That is because it is sadly better than most late game spells
@@envoyofrot7046 It definitely is more useful, but there are plenty more powerful. I just wish one of the red lighting spears was a normal lighting spear with more damage instead of a ground slam.
@@thomasstewart1380 yea it would be cool to just... ya know... throw big spear instead of slamming into the ground. We aren't a 40 ft dragon, we are on level ground we need range not w/e bs they gave us. Imagine the double lightning spear threw 2 and IF they hit the terrain they cause ripples... now that would be fun
the animations for the golden order incantations are gorgeous, I love the arm and hand movements. What is disappointing is it seems like they didn't include the super cool looking incantation that was shown in the launch trailer (at approximately 1:45). It looks like the attack that the big flower enemies do, but it looked way cooler as an incantation in the trailer. Wish they had added that.
I think the one in trailer is an erdtree's incantation.
Like many incantations, it is in the game but the player can't use it. I hope we get a DLC surrounding the Erdtree/Miquella, because Melina uses both the light rain and a small Erdtree that heals over time, they would be so cool to have for the player, just like the golden wings from the crucible knights which are also related to the Erdtree! Though it shows in Melina's version of the Blade of Calling and the one we get so I'm not too hopeful unfortunately
It’s from blood borne and it was an arcane ability if I remember. Wasn’t good by any measure. Over or pvp it was basically useless unless you are trying to die but be be cheeky
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@@UlsaPulsa I have a feeling the wings wouldn't be included because of the exploit potential lol, imagine flying over boss walls. If there was a way to cancel the animation you could do some serious glitches with the distance on the windup for it.
the animation for the Scarlet Aeonia incantation ( @13:38 ) is absolutely GORGEOUS. Of all the incantations in the game, I'm quite positive that's my favorite. It's just such a cool animation and seeing Malenia do it was so awe-inspiring.
FromSoftware did a damn great job with the all the magic/spells. Not only are there a ton, there's so much variety. I agree with a comment a saw below though; seems the incantations have more variety/utility than sorceries. But I still think there are some super cool (and powerful) spells, no matter how you slice it.
Excellent video and coverage of Elden Ring. Really appreciated the consistent video content and the useful info on the website. The game is way bigger than most of us thought so even with the gaps in information I'm still finding lots of useful things. Keep up the good work
Thanks for taking the time to make this. I love theming my characters for RP purposes and this helps. I just found all the Erdtree incantations, so my Tree Sentinel cosplay is done for the most part. Might try to get the Dragon Cult ones for an alt cosplay on the same toon. I have the Malformed dragon gear as well, so I think that would be fun for a NG+ play through.
Ya its much more fun if your character has a theme.
Im going to make a strength arcane build which i think would be pretty fun and unique.
@@legendarybrando348 I made mine light/lightning/fire theme and named myself Uriel, Gods Light. My next one is an ice mage named Ymir, king of frost and a lord of flies after that
@@jondoe8350 sounds like some cool builds.
I don't remember what realign its from but ymir is a god.
Im still making my strength arcane build but after that im gonna make either a dragon red lighting build or a death sorcerery mage build.
Both sound cool and I'll probably make both but don't know which to do next.
im making a darth maul build. bloodflame blade + twinsword = a pretty good looking lightsaber
I like how they have individual symbols to differentiate the types of incantations :)
Just wished that Scarlet Aeonia was more practical. It literally has nothing going for it aside from inflicting rot. It costs 3 memory slots, long wind up, big fp cost, can easily be staggered out of it, pretty low damage all things considered and very long recovery animation. Actually a lot of offensive incantations are very subpar, especially the lightning ones, only has two that are worthwhile and one for pvp.
Sorceries knock miracles out of the park in this game. It’s a shame, because many miracles have cool concepts.
I feel incantations have more of a supportive or passive role rather than outright pure dmg output, supplementary to the offensive incantations.
@@fsl1323 Honestly I use incants as utilities to cause opening for a melee barrage, attacks like bestial sling have a good chance of knocking most sorcerer builds out of their casts and has massive follow up potential, with either a right handed melee or just spam fire it like you slam fire a 12 gauge. That and the fact that you can cast from mid air makes it my go to pvp incant.
@@lourencopopp3444 🤔 Madness 2 shot and unavoidable when hit with the first with massive range. Death lightning, lightning strike and every buff and debuff known to man, every damage negation you can think of. You're just not utilizing the builds correctly. All you're looking for is damage up front which is held in intelligence favor faith is really strong in the right hands and the most versetile in the whole game.
@@lourencopopp3444 Not to mention most of the dope weapons are faith based aside from moonveil sword of night and flame and wings of astel and darkmoon great. By far only good int weaps all other weapons that are decent to op are all faith based.
Dayum that’s awesome all the spells build ups! Awesome video as always
I wish the incantations that the Omen King used were also available
dlc they can't give us everything
The great hammer/sword/dagger? Oh yes please
The rain of golden daggers is so badass. Obviously they'd have to tone it down, but it would have been cool to have something like that.
@@LauncherSpiderMk7 I would love that too, but I am jelly of int casters and their fancy magic summoned swords. A hammer would be perfect for a cleric summon
Morgots golden hammer would have been so cool
I just imagine Kalé sitting there with a look of stoic displeasure on his face while your character proceeds to wreck the Church of Elleh with all these incantations. XD
Nah, he's to busy trying not to go insane with frenzied flame xd
For real though, lol. How is he not dead after all that?
Surely that magma aoe attack hit him.
The church is already a mess
That Lore where the spells for the Two Fingers are made to negate damage of, sneak up on, and kill all the other ones. With some healing thrown on top to throw off the trail. "Oh me? I'm just a worshipper of the two fingers, healing the sick..." And then they go invisible and sneak up on you and kill you with poison!
The FP cost on incantations other than beast incants has is WAY too high in comparison to the damage sorceries are doing for way less. I’ve found a few buffs are worth it, catch flame is great for PvP, a few boss cheese spells like rot breath, but for the most part incants aren’t worth the FP over using it for weapon arts.
It’s why I think str/faith using beast incants is the best faith build. 60 str/25 faith and use the dirt cheap beast buffs and heals and buff your str scaling weapon with a str scaling beast seal.
There's also the fp tear you can get for your flask. Not to mention the talisman that lowers fp cost
Try a dragon cult build. 30fp to do anywhere from 2-10k damage on a boss is pretty good. Especially if you are going strength and have poise. I have 25 mind and only need 2 blue flasks and i can buff and take out a boss with spells. Plus part of strenght faith is that you have a weapon for damage cause you are also going strenght where mages have lower weapon damage and more spell usage.
I think the idea for incants was an inbetween of being a physical damage character and magic user. Most of the incants have low int requirements with a tad of faith thrown in them meaning more physical damage focused players can invest a little into int, faith and arc with some and have some magic options. Alot of them have much faster cast times than some of the more powerful sorceries. There are some incants that are all faith and have high faith requirement but they do alot of damage. A good number of them are buffs tho where as sorcery only has Terra Magica as its only buff spell.
Where as sorcery spells are all int and meant to be the glass cannon mage deal. I've seen some insane melee/incant builds so it's just how you make the build.
@@Darth1Marik i was 55 str and 60 faith up till malenia. I respecced to quality cause incants werent helping me at all during rhat fight
@@mastervaderog8021 I can't say much because I went easy mode, I knew off the bat full int mage builds were wrecking the game and I didn't want to play the "Definitive Dark Souls Experience" to where you face a boss who I am clearly under leveled for and die for 2 hours going insane before I finally beat him.
I instead went straight for the meteorite staff and rock sling and absolutely obliterated early game. I started a warrior because I wanna try dual wielding with bloody slash and bleed status on my weapons but I haven't had any experience with the incant builds. I've seen alot of videos with them doing high damage.
One guy kept throwing lightning spear and was doing 2 to 3k per shot. So again I have no idea what the str/faith incant builds play like but I've seen some nasty builds. Maybe you just didn't have the right incants?
I love the frenzy incantations. The whole idea of the flame of frenzy is genius and a very relatable metaphor for some of the feelings we humans feel IRL.
If anxiety is ever able to be turned as a weapon and is not like the Flame of Frenzy, i'll be disappointed.
@@comentaristachileno8080 I'd be a hell of a Flame of Anxiety mage then.
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6:09 that moment when Elden Ring became Divinity Original Sin 2 with his Polymorph abilities
man these names of the incantations are so fucking sick. Frozen lightning is probably my personal favourite
the dragon incantations really make you feel like you are using actual dragon breath. really scratches the itch skyrim has left me with for years
I wish these things were actually usable. They do decent damage (sometimes) and they can be useful (rarely) but 99% of the time you will get staggered out of it before for you can cast it. Like what the hell am I supposed to do with a crowd clearing aoe spell if it takes a hundred years to cast and if the enemy happens to fart in my general direction the spell is cancelled and my fp is gone. I really wish we could get hyper armor or something when casting. Even if we took all the damage it would be useful because we could actually get the spell off. Unfortunately as of now most incantations are a cool idea but impossible to practically use in combat.
agreed, something like the canvas talisman from DS3 (weapon art to increase poise for casting) would be extremely helpful, if not necessary, to make close range incantations more viable
Well, during the last big patch they buffed a lot of sorceries, hopefully the next one comes soon ish and buffs incantations.
@@DEADPOOL9AND let's hope
Black Blade is a decent incantation to use at the start of the fight since it chunks away max HP and causes a DoT.
Otherwise, you're better off using buffs and affinity infusions.
An Incantation buff is desperately needed
Tbh would have been nice to see these incantations in field rather than in a small environment. Half of the effects are lost on the walls of the church
Yeah let's make a hour and a half video to show what the spells can do on enemies. He couldn't have done this any better we just want to see what the spells are called to locate them
@@grahamtownsley1348 ratioed
Huge help to track down the incants I missed, thanks!!
There's a total of 101 incantations, alongside 70 wizard spells.
That makes a mind blowing 171 total possibilities.
Damn! Didn't realize it was that many.
The incantations in this game are so much fun. The only other game I can think of that out-does Elden Ring with magic is Dragon's Dogma sorcery
i wonder what kale is thinking, just sitting there seeing the tarnished casting incantations after incantations
You guys have gotta be on speed or something over there to pump out these amazing videos so quick
Incantations need a serious buff. Duration needs to be increased on support incants and damage needs to be increased on offensive incants. Compared to magic, it really is underpowered.
I think damage is probs going about it in the wrong way, sorcery is kinda all about damage while incantations are more utility and variety. I just think giving any of the longer cast incantations natural poise would make using them more viable even if the damage was the same. Half the reason they aren't good is cuz anything that does alot of damage can get easily stopped by an arrow or a rock or something before they even do anything.
@@sevirakalau2171 agreed, I don't believe they need buffs, just some poise to back up what they do, hell I fought against a few players using some of incantations and it has nutty damage.
I agree heavily on buff duration, but also, casting speed. If the buff drops off in a boss fight, you will NEVER get it back up, and you’re not getting a heal off, so those can’t be used in combat either.
i disagree, magic focuses on raw power while incantations focus moreso on situational versatility
No incatations are super strong
frenzied burst is one of the best spells because of its range and the fact that it is essentially a fire spell, which means you can buff it with fire scorpion talisman and mixed physick
It's literally a sniper rifle lol. It's amazing with the Godfrey Icon for getting rid of annoying mobs from like a quarter-mile away.
@@LauncherSpiderMk7 yea, i was surprised at the range because no faith build video ever talks about that. granted its not that good in small spaces against enemies that are aggressive.
@@ave5668 Yeah, it's strictly a long-range spell. Funny that Frenzy spells are either extreme close range, or extreme long range, and nothing in between.
@@LauncherSpiderMk7 it kind of is frustrating because there are no incantations that are as good as sorcery spells, because IMO faith spells look cooler but generally have longer casting times, no poise and are harder to hit
Frenzied Burst is literally one of my favorite incantations overall. Hits like a truck from very far. I literally just killed Juno Hoslow using only it, before the fight started haha
Cant say it in words how much I love this Game.
Why?
This is awesome I got a new magic/arcane build n mind this gave me more ideas and a direction to go. Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks!
Great vid helped alot
Exactly what I was looking for! Now I know what incantations to go hunt down.
Perfect timing I just started a save with a faith build and I wanted to dedicate to one “school” but wasn’t sure which. Now I am!
@Top Lobster I went with godskin apostle. The magic seems to compliment a melee build quite well and I can dump my stats rather than having to spread properly which is nice since I’m quite new to souls games.
I think once I get a grasp on building I’m going to try a faith caster using a mixture of incants.
I want my future house to be built from whatever this Church is made of
Every time I try to make a pure faith build, I end up drifting away. I really wish most casting incantations felt better. The ancient dragon series and the rings incantations especially.
Same ended up going more strength than faith late game so I could still buff but mainly just bonk stuff
Dragon spells scale far more off arcane than faith just fyi
And late-game bosses never give you a great window to use dragon spells unless they're focusing on your summon/cooperator. Even then, it's so easy for them to swap back to you that you can't cast it without taking a hit. The only dragon spell I ever maintained was Exzykes because it's Scarlet Rot is off the charts. After applying Scarlet Rot, I usually settle into throwing Blackflame or chucking Lightning Spear.
I REALLY wish there was an upgraded version of Lightning Spear that does more damage but also uses more FP. The dragon lightning spells look cool, but they're not very practical except for taking out large groups of weaker enemies. Really wish Ancient Dragon Lightning spear was thrown at enemies, rather than slamming it into the ground.
@@vamperic not the ancient dragon incantations though, which is what I am lamenting
Hey love the vids I highly recommend making a god parry build, faith and Dex mainly using a parry shield with golden parry and misericorde dagger with lighting on it, also flame of Redmanes can break poise really easily so maybe something good to use with it
Niiccceee absolutely love the magic in game although I noticed quite a hefty lean towards faith casting; in my opinion the dragon and erdtree casts were the more varied and strongest and solely relied on upping faith which any class can do without sacrificing physical points which is badass
it is because incantations are solely focused on faith casting. If you are searching for intelligence that's sorceries
@@PlaXer not entirely, some incants also use INT
Kinda funny to see the effects of other things you where testing there still up lol.
damn faith looks so fun. I went int.. next play through going faith arcane build
It looks cool, but they're all pretty useless in combat. You get hit by anything at all before the long animation is finished and the spell is cancelled and all your fp is gone
The merchant just chilling 😳
I’m so enamored with this fella because of his guides and such. Lord help me, perhaps I’ve been subjected to the flames of frenzy?
I was looking for this video yesterday on the channel 😅😂😂
Super useful vid thank u
I have to say, incantation feels way more varied and overall more useful than sorceries.
Sorceries lack variety in shapes/areas and damage type I feel. (and some straight up unusable lol)
Glad I make an hybrid, best of both parts !
Seems that way. I don't have very many of either, tho I have more incantations than spells and I am building for faith/str. This video definitely makes it clear that incantations have lots of utility.
I DO think that the sorceries have some really really gorgeous spells (that giant full moon one is so hypnotizing to me) and a lot of em are just downright powerful. But you're right, i think the only other damage type I've seen under INT/sorceries is frostbite. And it's pretty rare on weapons and spells, it seems.
I mean for pvp many incantations are worthless but quite a lot of sorceries are good as most have fast cast time so even if fp to dmg ratio for some sorceries is bad they have fast enough cast time to be at least more viable in pvp. many flashy incantations are so slow the person your fighting has already ran off did emote and started walking back before you finished the cast ;D, some spells like moon for sorcery are slow but they are quite decent in pvp as they start moving slow and you can chase the invader with the spell trying to catch them in a roll or off guard as they try to avoid the blast. I prefer incantation and my faith build is a lot of fun we do have versatility but in terms of pvp or even fast bosses faith can be very limited to just a tiny amount of spells which will usually be lighting strike as its fast and good dmg of course I still use slow incantation in pvp just its much harder to pull off without getting hit let alone actually hitting anyone :D
the biggest hindrance for pure faith build is weapon choices are horrible, for pure intellect build you actually have a good pick of weapons and styles with very small requirements like dark moon great sword, its not the best but as great swords go it just needs 16 str most others need 20 or same amount of dex and str which is a bit of a punishment in stat allocation.
@@Julian-rt9qs A lot of high level sorceries are absolutely gorgeous indeed.
Tbh i wish we had some other gravity spells doing AoE stuff, like with the gravity stones
Sorceries do WAY more damage for the FP. I have yet to find a justification to use a dragon breath spell over using most weapon arts.
Edit: with the exception of cheesing certain bosses with rot breath.
@@kevinc8955 Some sorceries do, but a lot of high level ones really aren't that good. Magic shower or crystal release and such really aren't that good.
congrats you made this whole video in a place that prevents us from understanding the range or spread of most of the spells.
Thanks for putting this together. I notice you didn't showcase firing two magma breath shots in a row by pressing LB twice (though you did show it for the other version later).
Scarlet aeonia is so cool, but the whole golden order incantations won my heart
I would love to see a tier list of all the spells/incantations/weapons.
It would be good content
That golden boomerang is clean
A couple of notes for the unaware:
Elden Stars creates a projectile which travels forward, shooting many smaller homing projectiles as it goes. Inside the enclosed space of that church it hit the wall and ended early, so we couldn't see its full glory.
The Fire Monks' spells share a lineage with the Fire Giants' spells (same symbol when casting) for a reason.
Notice how the Erdtree and Two Fingers incantations tend to display their symbol on the ground, surrounding the caster, instead of being projected next to the sacred seal.
All of these are sick
i like how some of the incantations require either a balance of INT/FAITH or just all INT. im very curious as to what implications that has lore-wise
The ones that do are Golden Order incantations. Golden Order specifically is associated with balance in the natural order.
Radagon studied magic when he was married to Renala, and incorporated it into his golden order fundamentalism
Never knew the lightning incant spells were dragon related lol good to know
unendurable frenzy looks so dope
litany of proper death sounds so bad ass
Man i was so excited for flame of the fell god
It must be good with such a high faith cost And then it sucks so bad wtf is up with that?
That's pretty much every incantation unfortunately
You're better off running a melee-focused build with incantations that buff you rather than focusing on a caster build. At least for now.
You summed up my Faith Build experience... 😭
ooo I can shoot lasers from my eyes
for me lighting looks best, together with its sounds
They really spoilt us with spells and incantations I'm so glad
Meanwhile Kalé is sweating through every pore scared shitless of the Tarnished going crazy just a few meters away
Wheres the one that you sprinkle some golden dust and it gives you and your teammates a one time damage reduction?
I would love to see a Wolverine style build.
I wish the cast times weren't so long. Especially since a lot of these incantations don't even deal lot of damage.
The distinction between the Dragon Cult/Communion and Fire Giant/Cult seems weird tbh.
It’s very simple lmfao. Dragon communication turns you into a dragon and dragon cult is just lightning
I could be wrong but placidusax ruin isn’t technical a dragon communion spell because it dose not receive the buff from the dragon communion seal
Dragon communion are the bests for me tbh
Not gonna lie I low key want to make a cyclops build around the frenzied flame incantations
I wish you had taken the time to show off the damage numbers or something, there are already like a million videos out there, that are in this exact same format just in a different location
....I never knew about Poison Mist or Darkness! Why did I never come across those?!
I wish there was an incantation that can make you vomit scarlet rot like the cleanrot knights do lol
Hocus Pocus Elden Mages!
Those Fire's Deadly Sin ankles...
Who else thinks the law of causality incantation is another reference to Berserk?
I remeber a guy using an incantation where he made a seal drop on bosses that staggered them for a couple of seconds, I don't know which one it is
That's not an incantation, that's Margit's Seal, a reusable item you get from Patches. You can use it in the Margit and Morgott fights
Can’t help but feel like this video would be cooler if you were using the incantations on an enemy
And here I thought astrologer’s have got powerful spells than prophets
Damn Theodorix's Magma is broken. It just does Magma Breath when I equip and use it.
Sorceries are so cool (Especially Loretta’s) in this game… But incantations WIN.
wow who wants to be a spell caster after seeing all that!!
Death lighting for when regular lighting just can’t get it done
If anyone needs it (im bit sure if its 100%) to weild it all you need 37int
50fai
17arc
Most of the lightning likes to com from the sky...wheres my great lightning bolt and stuff
That set is kinda lit
Why no timestamps for every single incantation like in the sorceries video? It's a real nuisance to regularely search for a specific incantation like this 😠
i think faith is better paired with a weapon enless you do a dragon priest. i think sorcery is better for pure damage with spells.
honestly you don't really need a weapon if you go full faith/arcane. You can clear out trash mobs with something like lightning bolt, black flame, flame sling etc. and then for boss fights melt them with dragon spells. I still use a weapon though because Katana's and bleed weapons do so much damage with arcane you might as well save that FP for the boss
@@AlphaDwg Faith/Arcane is dragon priest. Pure faith, I agree with the OP. 60str/25 faith and a non faith weapon you can buff is really powerful since the buffs scale off strength with the beast seal.
However, buffs are annoying to use, and it’s dubious whether the FP to cast them is really worth the opportunity cost of using the FP for a weapon art instead.
Whats the robe your wearing called? Thank you so much for your content.
Liking because you left timestamps
Kale was found fearing for his life in the corner
Kale should be pretty nervous at this point
definitley missing some incantations, but still good job
what’s the name of your outfit/armor?
Can you make a 100% guide checklist video of all the items in the game scrolling though your inv
What armor is that u have on?
I believe in stone of gurranq supremacy
Whoever showcased all these incantations REALLY should have chosen a better location. A lot of the incantations had their effects blocked by the doorway. There is literally an open field next to the church.
I feel like most of the high faith and fp incants are just never worth it
As a hard faith main, can confirm I basically only use Giantsflame or rotten breath
Could have picked a better spot to show them, great video still
I have no idea what that archway did to offend you, but I think after all that, its probably learnt its lesson and wont ever do it again.
I mean this is a great video but it would've been better if you SHOWED us where you got the spells and incantations.
Now a list of locations
Started playing a few weeks ago. Went the sorcery route because THIS was the shit I was hoping to get.
Eh. I'll respec later.
Broooo I want that all of it
Such slow windup makes most incantations seem only appropriate for pve. What is thr dexterity of the character doing these incantations?
Question. What are fundamentalist incantations?