3 UPDATES: Husband Files For A Divorce Out Of Nowhere & Ghosts me Bu 5 Years Later, MIL Says THIS!
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3 UPDATES: Husband Files For A Divorce Out Of Nowhere & Ghosts Me .. 5 Years Later, MIL Gives me The Real Reason. I am Shocked as my Ex-husband Is Now Blowing up my Phone With Apologies…
For some background, me and Keith had been dating ever since we were in undergraduate school. That is where we first met, became friends and then eventually started our relationship. Even though the memories of our relationship have become slightly blurry after everything that happened and after the fact that so much time has passed since everything happened, I still would say in the span of three years of our marriage and three years of dating, we had a pretty good relationship.
She didn't know it at the time but her husband's mother did her a huge favor by lying about her cheating. Saved that baby from him.
Save her from the toxic grandma.
No kidding. It was a blessing in disguise. I'm happy OP got the closure she needed.
You're so right. I'm sure she and her daugther have a better life without that MIL - and apparently she'd marry her, and not a grown man.
Danish saying: Nothing is SO bad, that it isn't good for something.
Our, from her...
Keith AND his mommy filed? What a weak man. If I found out that my mother lied like that the last thing I'd want is her name next to mine on a legal document.
That would be a no contact issue for me, even with a parent that did that.
So dude ghosted her then gets mad she didn't tell him she's pregnant? He's a special kind of stupid 🤣
Stupid with huge lack of logic and self thinking since it's his MOTHER who told him about the supposed affair.
So like Is it common practice to be up someone's ass or keep tabs on them after a separation if you're under the impression there's no children?
That sounds kinda stupid and cringe.
She should have tried to tell him about the pregnancy. Their relationship, and the relationship between parent and child are completely different issues. That said the guy is a loser to not even have the courage to face her.
@@maxpowers9129 How was she going to do that? She didn't know how to contact him and the MIL wouldn't talk to her and wouldn't have believed her anyway if she said the baby was his.
@@shells500tutubo It isn't hard to find people online anymore. If you want to find someone, then you will find them.
If you believe your partner cheated, might be having a baby that isnt yours and arent willing to talk to them and find the actual truth, you werent ready for a relationship, no matter who put the thought in your head about possible paternity fraud.
Story 1 OP's ex ghosted OP for five years. Why should he and his mother now think they are entitled to see the daughter now?
Not even to see her…they are trying to take her away from her mother! Talk about being selfish, they didn’t even stop to think about how the daughter would feel about having her upended by strangers 🤦🏼♀️🤬
@@stirrednotshaken4823 Yeah, because the only thing that matters with people like this is their rights. They don't care about their responsibilities or their child.
Even though he handled things poorly when it came to his wife he still has a right to see his child but he doesn't have a right to take her though
Story 1: Keith ruined his marriage. He could've confronted his wife and waited until the delivery date to see if she was telling the truth. If he had been upfront with her, none of this would've happened. His entitlement and nasty behavior come from his mother. He doesn't deserve a second chance. Instead, he should be paying child support. Also, get a restraining order on the former monster-in-law. She started this whole mess.
OP really did screw up though, in NOT getting the custody issue settled from the very beginning. NTA but she was bloody fortunate since she did conceal the daughter's existence. Even if the delicate little man did abandon them.
He never knew the kid existed
He never knew about the kid tho.
The MIL was the ahole here, she ruined all their lives
@@groofromtheup5719 I believe Keith already knew. His mother mentioned how she “looked like it”. I also believe she only wanted a relationship with OP when she realized she was pregnant. When they were getting better acquainted, she looked for someone to be the other man. She chose the boss because that's a man OP would have to see every day which was why the plan worked. She purposely deceived her son to end their marriage. Keith knew his mother hated his wife and still didn't give her a chance to prove her innocence. He had a chance to mend things when the cops reached out to him but chose not to. He's not ready to be a parent, let alone a husband.
@@Andrea92_91 "She looked like it" She look like a cheater to exMIL, not that she looked like she was knocked up. It could be exMIL had her pregnancy sense and knew she needed to act, but there is no indication that the father knew.
Mother in law screwed up big time and she lost her grandchild.
Karma's great.
Story 1 The husband choose to runaway instead of asking the wife. MIL did it to split them up but was surprised to see grandchild. Ran and told told son. They're just bad people and don't deserve the little girl.
Right lol I mean come on man. His mom never liked her to begin with. I understand ghosting a cheating partner. But you need solid proof. He shot himself in the foot
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Remember all the infidelity Reddit stories have the guys ghosting the cheating wife in a blaze of glory. The difference is those guys actually had concert proof like images of s3x not just one lunch with the boss. This husband was a moron.
@@Shopgirl1 It's your choice to stay married to a momma's boy. If you don't like it, then start working to get yourself out of the relationship.
@@Shopgirl1 Then maybe you should speak more respectfully about him and not make him out to be a momma's boy on a public TH-cam comment.
Something I learned a long time ago that family is determined more by behavior than blood.
The ex husband and his mother received the treatment they absolutely deserved.
The returning husband. Sue him for back child support.
No if she did he would have custody and visitation rights
@@NadiaGirl1 If child support is owed and unpaid, it is still owed, even if the child is adult
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@@jemase7931 how do you plan to enforce it? He lives on a different continent lol
Story 1 NTA the Ex husband doesn't deserve to even be near the child he left op for nothing and now he wants to be back in her life it's to late for that now the ex is naive and gullible op is strong and independent
No court is going to give custody of a child to a parent or grandparent who has not been in the child's life and who hasn't supported that child. The best he can hope for at this point is supervised visitation, at least until he proves himself to be a reliable parent or until the child decides she doesn't want him in her life.
But OP deserves child support and back child support.
@@lorifiedler13 Agree, but she might not be able to collect it from someone who lives in another country. With a bit of luck it might make his visits home expensive, though.
the first story, as if Keith wanted custody of his daughter. his chances are really small because what he did to op during the divorce and ghosted her. the court will see his action and think he isn't good parent without any communication and the way his family harassed and defamation character on op. the court will see his family and him are bad environment for the child. op, used ur messages and their messages as evidences. the court will asked him alots of questions and will bring it up about ur divorce. if they asked him if he have solid proof about ur cheating. also, he wasn't in ur daughter's birth certificate. that will make things harder for him more.
Right use the letter as evidence saying he accused me of an affair I did not have
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OP was still correct in getting a lawyer, though. Funny things can happen in courts if one of the parties isn't represented properly. [I am not a lawyer, and not even particularly favourable to them, by the way.]
@@richardlee653 no, u are correct, getting the lawyer is the best way to get thing properly in court because they are there to help and represent their client. And also, they know how laws work and the systems as well.
Sounds like the ex made it impossible for her to even let him know that she was pregnant. She had no way of contacting him. She didn't even know where he was.
So he can't even claim that she withheld the information from him out of spite.
Story 3: the OP is very generous and people like her is usually taken lots of advantage. Her colleagues did eat her baking, but didn't thank for it and didn't bother to wash the dishes. They are just downright rude, they don't deserve anything. The sad fact is if you do something regularly for other people, they start to believe you are obligated to do it.
Common courtesy.
The blatant refusal to clean somebody's dish, from which they've enjoyed a gift, AND complain they're "not obligated" to clean up after themselves, shows an abject ignorance of basic social etiquette.
I've worked in the hospitality/restaurant industry for years. Those places I've enjoyed have been with respectful, courteous staff, to both customers and colleagues. Those that have been 'trying' to downright hell-holes were staffed by the most egregious and spoiled children you can think possible.
No matter what or whose equipment you use your first responsibility is clean and maintain it.
But there's the rub. Teaching responsibility and social etiquette has become so rare, over the past decades of an increased focus on entitlement and resista1nce to growing up, it should be classified as a super-power.
Problem is, the general zeitgeist is that 'social etiquette' is seen as obsolete and passé.
And people wonder why I get grouchy quick these days . . .
I'm sick of people taking anything that anyone says and making it about themselves and crying because someone says the word baby. It's not about you and any of your pregnancy problems. Keep that crap to yourself.
Baby-crazy frootloop. Bad as vegans at a BBQ.
@@benlutz1974 yup
I mean it wasn't therapeutically healthy but I'm kinda thinking the generation that never told anyone about their miscarriages had it right. Almost all my aunts, my mom, my grandmothers, all had miscarriages and I only knew about my mom's because I was home with her when she had it when I was 5. All the rest I learned when the women were quite old and one of my cousins had one and the others told her because they were comforting her.
@@janicewilcox8590 I think the problem is all the IVF. I mean think about it they inject you with these extra hormones that get you to release enough eggs and then try an implantation. I mean some women become suicidal with just hormones on a regular period. Post partum and even Psychosis are all because of the birth.
So with IVF the hormones have their whole body and mind literally craving to be pregnant. So is it really unusual that some women go off the deep end?
Story 2 makes me think that a lot of people need to read a book on manners, common sense and manners are in short supply today.
Story 2. My wife and I went through fruitless infertility treatments, but the world does not stop having babies just because you can not. Mothers day and Fathers days can be hard some times, but being over sensitive will only just make it worse. The Bride is owed an apology.
Story 2: If this woman goes crazy ape-shit bonkers over a speech which was not about her... at a wedding... where there are going to be children... and people are going to speculate about grandchildren... then, to be quite honest, she's way too unstable to have children anyway. If the bride and groom already had a child, would she have taken umbrage with them for that too?
Sadly, there are plenty of people who enjoy a bit of misery and will twist their minds inside out to be able to make everything that happens about them and their issues. I've met some old ladies who are lonely and alone. When you talk to them, they immediately start talking about their illnesses, about how miserable the world is, etc, etc, etc. They honestly can't see that they're sucking the joy from the room and the reason they're alone is that they exhaust everybody around them with their constant complaints and moans.
I agree
This woman should NEVER have kids!
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Washing the empty dish is good manners. When I was a teenager, we ,the teens, would wash all of the empty dishes after a pot luck dinner at the church.
Story one: I would not take any child support from the ex. Then try to make the ex turn on his mom. Telling him he will NEVER see his daughter because of his mother.
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Story 1: HE believed a lie instead of trusting her and now that nothing is going his way, he decides to go all "gimme, gimme, gimme" when it comes to the baby he abandoned? Yeah, restraining order indeed since he clearly doesn't want to accept the consequences of his actions. He wants to gain something from all this, which is a fantasy that will never come true.
No, it's not right to return a dirty dish to someone who shared a treat. The person who said the treat is the gift and the dish is loaned agrees with what my mother always taught me. Point two is that any dish is usually much easier to clean right after it becomes empty, plus it's the friendly and neighborly thing to do. How lazy does one have to be to give back an excuse rather than simply wash a dish? Quite often when someone brungs a treat to work, the group makes certain it gets clean to give back with encouragement to feelfree to fill it up again. 🙂
Ikr? It would never occur to me to return a dirty dish, especially to somebody who had been nice enough to make me something good to eat.
My sister delights in making jam--for her friends, her family, etc. In my opinion, she makes the best jam in the world. She makes the jam as an act of love--she's always been generous that way--, the least I can do is return a clean jar to her. btw her apricot jam is her best.
I was always taught that you never return a dish/Tupperware empty or to make sure then when you return the empty CLEAN dish that you have a disposable plate or a bag that has treats
She should really stop bothering with them.
Story 1: Wow sounds like the ex Husband reached a breaking point and literally lost his mind, not that it excuses his actions though
and he blames it all on his ex and not his mother who started it all
@@satansecretary665 He's probably a momma's boy.
And another story where infertile women feel entitled to erase the joy of having children from the rest of the world because they can’t experience it. Infertility is a tragedy, but it doesn’t mean you get to make others suffer for it.
Story 1: Does anyone know what happened to the evil ex-MIL? I highly doubt she would be okay knowing that her son has a criminal record and her granddaughter will never see her.
I have a bad feeling there are going to be more updates in the future. Hope she got a restraining order against her too.
OP said she got a restraining order. Not that she got the ex arrested. (Though she should have.)
Yes, I expect that the ex-MIL is extremely upset that her granddaughter will never know her. Once she lost the custody battle, I'm surprised she didn't try under grandparents' rights. But maybe she didn't qualify in that state. I think a lot of states have a requirement that the grandparent already be a significant presence in the child's life in order to get court ordered visitation.
This stuff happens. My husband and I are from different backgrounds and his parents were so against me they would not speak to him for a year when they found out we were together. I received so much prejudice from his family. It's amazing that this stuff still happens in America, but they were of European background. Last laugh on them, they're both dead now and we're still together over 20 years. It caused us MUCH hardship & pain though.
I'd have figured out what happened the second I saw the letter. Also, MIL totally dug her own grave with that stunt. But ultimately Keith turned out to be too weak to be a husband or father. And I'd never, ever take his weak ass back.
The story of the bride whose cousin or whatever was upset about the dad's speech. brought up so many memories. My daughter had 3 children and her sister-in-law had trouble conceiving, my daughter was not allowed to talk about her pregnancy during family gatherings and the sister-in-law would have felt better if my daughter not appear at family gatherings and got called out that she was just rubbing it in her face that she was pregnant again and she was not allowed to talk about her children. I never understood this woman, but my daughter took care at every gathering to not discuss her children or even touch her rounded belly just to keep peace. Peace did descend when sis in law had a child and is now more content with life and we are all happy for her.
I’ve learned when using disposable bake ware I double them while cooking and use the outer one for the next baking. Same with muffin cups. Tends to keep it from scorching
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Nope, it is disrespectful to return a dirty dish. I mean come on they work in a damn restaurant. Disrespectful, rude, lazy and entitled people.
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Story 1: Obviously Keith should have discussed this with his wife before just taking off to the Moon. What he did was terrible, leaving her in such straits w/o a word. But this does bring up that people have to be careful when you are involved with someone from a different culture because they can handle marital & family matters very differently from what you are used to or expect & in perhaps a negative manner. I think this man was a creature of his culture and perhaps wasn't as different as OP thought.
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Despite not knowing which cultures are involved, I think that you may be overestimating the effect of cultural differences here. Even south-east Europe doesn't tend to be that crazy.
Its absolutely rude to return a dish dirty.
Last story.... yes the people were very rude to you, especially if they won’t talk to you now and called you petty.
Just say....No more deserts....so there won’t be anymore hard feelings.
Story #1 What a sad situation! People, do you see the damage caused by lies & gossip? Even if you think something is true (the MiL thought it was true) be quiet unless you have 100% proof. Also, don’t trust the gossiping person like the ex-husband did. Go find out the truth on your own.
I agree this is the cost of lies that can hurt and destroy
Dirty dishes story: I was taught the same as you. Return dishes clean. The only exceptions to this rule were recently widowed men, or when taking home your own dishes after a wake.
So...let me summarize what your ex husband did.
1) He believed his mother, / whom he had perfectly known that never liked you, based on some assumptions and never with proof.
A normal person would have asked her: ok, can you please get proof that my wife is cheating? If you saw them so many times, surely you have photos/videos that can prove it?
2) He never confronted you
3) He ghosted you and vanished in thin air.
And now, NOW he feels entitled to act crazy, get mad at the fact that he never knew about having a daughter etc?!?
Girl, i know for a fact that you never had a MIL problem, you had a husband problem.
If your partner is not on your side, it's them that will break your couple and marriage.
Trust me, i know.
My very first serious boyfriend, probably the most traumatizing ending of a relationship that i'll ever had since i was in so deep that i didn't see the surface of it for years, ghosted me too.
Except that in that case it wasn't a MIL that was involved, but a "friend" (my ex best friend, by the way) who did the exact same thing. Not a single proof. He fed him something that every idiot could understand was a lie, if you knew me for more than a month i dare say.
Not a single person believed him, apart from...guess who? My fuckin' partner. Of 5 and a half years.
And after a lot of time, since he discovered about all the lies, he came back crawling. Apologizing profusely.
He still wants to "give us a real chance".
Reports from old acquaintances say that he's really miserable, apparently.
I hope that he'll soon find peace and understand that that train passed a long time ago and is never coming back, not even over my dead body...it's too late (because of multiple reasons).
I really hope he'll sober up for a future relationship and that, if a similar "accident" occurs, he'll start to confide more in his next partner and trust her.
She'll not be me and i'll soon move very far away, it's finally my turn to disappear this time.
This type of people don't deserve you.
Let them be your past forever.
Better yet nobody would go for a man like that
@@NadiaGirl1 I wish. You would be surprised, unfortunately.
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The husband was in the wrong, but should have been told he had a kid. The child still deserved a chance to know the father. The father also deserved to be forced to pay child support for the family he walked out on.
Keith knew his mother didnt like OP and yet believed her so much he followed OP just to see an innocent lunch and instead of confronting her just goes mia. Then he was upset she wasnt empathetic to whay he went through - which he did to himself - and didnt wait around for 5 years for him to come back and welcome him with open arms. Now he gets to live his life full of regrets. And i bet MIL hates herself a little because she lost out on her grandchilds life.
mommy dearest lied to you Keith. and how the hell could I have told you I was pregnant when you left me the day I found out?
Dude, those servers are such a B.
When my neighbor sending me food in a bowl, plate, pan or any container that require cleaning, I always wash it clean first before return it to the owner.
And I always-always says thank you to them.
For the last story about the baking dish I would find it extra rude that no one could have been bothered to at least rinse off the dish so what was left didn't dry on and have to be soaked off if they weren't going to wash it
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A father of the bride says he hopes for grandchildren in his wedding speech . The guest screamed, was crying and hysterical. Was she drunk?
She was probably just unhinged. There are a lot of people that are never taught to control their emotions.
I'd love to hear how the guilt and shame of story 1 MILs actions brought her down....would like an update, for sure.
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Last story, we do things like these at work and EVERY DAMN TIME we clean it after we ate it, no matter from whom it is. They got free food, like at least they could wash the dish. I would bake something salty and eat it in front of them every shift now lol.
Right? When we did a work potluck everyone helped clean up.
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In the first story. What a horrible man Keith turned out to be in the end. I still can't believe that he would just take the words of his mother for gospel and not even ask his wife for her side of the story. It makes my blood boil that the Mother In Law hated her Daughter In law so much that she broke up a good marriage just because of her hatred because in her mind the Daughter In Law wasn't good enough for her precious son. Part of me is glad that he ghosted his wife and she saw his true colours and got out of the marriage when she did. After five years and the ex Daughter In Law and her daughter went back for a visit and the look on her ex Mother In Laws face when she saw her grand daughter. I laughed out loud when Keith found out too late that the daughter was really his then he tried to come crawling back to his ex wife expecting her to welcome him back with open arms. What a tosser.
Story #3: it’s common courtesy if someone gifts you food in a non-disposable dish, you wash it before you return it to them, especially if you work and are eating it at a restaurant where there is a dishwasher.
I’ve worked at numerous places and brought in food for my co-workers, all but one had sinks in store where dishes were washed (most of them didn’t even serve food, but they still washed my dishes) and the one that didn’t, they would take whatever was left home, and return the clean dishes to me the next shift, it’s not that hard.
How could she tell him? He dropped all communications with her.
Ex Abandoned OP and baby. He shouldn't get any rights to anything including daughter Period!!
S2 NTA your dad doesn't owe her an apology. His speech had nothing to do with her, her infertility is her problem and doesn't include you.
The servers who returned the dishes dirty should have been raised better. But that's what you get when you "cast pearls before swine."
And taught better during on-the-job training! They all work in a restaurant for goodness sake!
Do not bakenfor them again, problem solved.
Dude. Yes the food is the gift. But manners demand you wash the dish. No you don't have to wash the dishes but OP doesn't have to cook you food. Also I think they were right about you shouldn't cook for them anymore.
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The dirty dishes... she didn't gift her treats to a specific person. She gifted it to a whole bunch of people. That isn't surprising to me that no one cleaned if everyone was eating pie. Everyone thinking, I'm not going to clean the dish if they ate pie too. There is always that one nice person who thinks to clean the dish everyone eats from, but this work place either doesn't have one of those people or he/she was sick of always doing it. Bring your pie on a paper plate or stop sharing with ungrateful people. That's an easy one.
Also, leaving containers with food bits to attract pests is gross. The last slice person should have cleaned it.
They work in a restaurant, so it made no sense that they didn’t just run the dessert dishes in the industrial dish washer
@@goodlife459 this! How lazy can they be when all they had to do was put it in the industrial dishwasher? The one that is literally right there? The one they presumably are putting dishes in all day as one would while working in A RESTAURANT?
@@lynprincevalli5221 it’s a situation where people are enjoying the fruits of another persons labor but annoyed at that persons labor likely because they think that generosity makes them look bad… and consequently they punish the gifting employee by giving back dirty baking dishes or nit pick about being downgraded to disposable dishes
@@goodlife459 could be but it is still on them and they have no class!
What I find hilarious is that no body told Keith that if he lost, he could not only face the cost of back child support but also consequences based on child abandonment. He was fee and clear with his name not even being on the certificate. He ended up screwing himself over in the end.
First story - She should claim child support. Although it would be partial justice for her to receive it, it may be difficult to collect if her ex lives abroad. On the other hand, it might make the ex's visits to her home country expensive for him.
Again people need to cuss more, that coward leave with out even a conversation.
Sue his mother for slander. Too bad it all backfired for Keith and his mother.
Man, these stories are bad for my mental health, if I was in his position after the revelation, I would've ended myself.
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You should mention to your ex husband and mother-in-law that he owes years back child support and alimony for abandon her and her child. And the mother-in-law is looking at a civil case sue her to
Just stop bringing treats. Start by cutting the times in half: if you do it every two weeks go to once a month.
Then go to every two months, then every four, then just stop.
If they complain? Just smile & say, “Oh, I’ve had to get rid of so many baking vessels because they don’t come clean very well after sitting so long that I just can’t justify the expense of making anything else.”
Why keep giving a gift if it's unappreciated?
If she takes child support does that open the door for EX to petition for shared custody?
Why would this O.P. ask for legal advice , when no one knows where she lives? Surely , she has the common sense to know that laws vary from country to. Country - Province to Province - State to State .
He never gave you the chance to tell him.
Story 2: NTA!!! Sorry about the woman who is infertile. But if she’s going to be upset every time someone mentions “baby”, then she should become a shut in.
Another thought, was she going though IVF at the time? Could be because she was going through IVF is what was making her extra sensitive.
Her dad was speaking about his daughter not anyone else. It was the daughter's wedding.
The wedding story was in no way about the drama queen. She was completely out of pocket!
Where we can read the Story 1, I would like to know if she updated
Idiots suggesting she sue for child support. In the US, you pay child support, you are entitled to visitation (even if it is just supervised)
But he should have been paying for 5 years.
This varies from state to state depending on the situation. He abandoned his wife and she couldn’t reach him. This won’t look good for him in court and he’ll definitely have to pay back child support for sure. I’m assuming he knows that he will be in deep water which is why he wants to go for full custody.
Incorrect. Visitation is not tied to child support. Parents who are behind in support do not get blocked from visits by the court because stopping visitation is against the child’s best interest. A parent who blocks visitation can be in big trouble with the court.
@@lorifiedler13 it was her fault for never telling him she knew she was pregnant but didn't tell him because her and her ex-MIL never got along
@@niq872 don't know if that would matter to the court.
The way she's reading it and the way it's punctuated are completely different 😱
She waited to long to stop baking for those rude ppl ,once they kept returning it dirty .
Roflol Reddit told him to ghost his wife and it ruined his life.
Story 3: Now it would be disrespectful if OP expects them to bake a pie or a dessert in return. Washing the pan that the dessert came in , is just mandatory.
The poor baker! My ex and I many years ago were allowed to take our almost full pints home after last call. The landlady could not believe how spotlessly clean they were. That's how to show appreciation!
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Omfg people are insane, just stay single
After reading so many reddit stories, I believe it's better to just stay single. It spares us a lot of stress, troubles, money and white hair.
like for real....
Story about the Father's speech: did they expect everyone to be careful of what they said wherever they were so that their feelings were not hurt. That is a ridiculous. Not everyone is aware of their private business and the father in this case was just making a harmless joke. If they are that sensitive they had best stay home alone.
18:34 it’s is actually basic human curtesy to wash the dishes and place some food in them before returning them
I have no idea how the reader - who seems to be a native English speaker - gets through these miswritten stories keeping a straight face!
I don’t get these trashy people not washing a dish?
Exactly, they work in a restaurant?? Throw it in the dishwasher, that server is ridiculous, of course u wash it.
Public service announcement to men: if you listen to mommy, take it with a grain of salt and at least get hard evidence of cheating otherwise. The way he went about leaving and divorcing her alone would warrant scorch earth consequences, i.e.. never talking them or him about the child. Also i would never allow the child to go near them, but I would take them for everything the courts gave me. I doubt she got a fair shake in the divorce, but she saw it as enviable, nor could she contact him as he ran like a child. He made his bed. Now he needs to lie in it.
So...she cried a man had asked for grandchildren from his daughter and new husband. The woman who cried:
He didn't ask her
She's not his daughter
Her possible future children, will not be his grandchildren.
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Seriously, how selfish of her.
Story 1 - the marriage relationship is over. He was definitely wrong to leave and file for divorce without talking to her. However, there is a biological child and he should have visitation regardless of the past. He has a child to get to know. The child has a father to get to know. Visitation can be monitored at first, then to getting her for a few hours, then eventually overnight. Video calls and letters if he has to go back to Europe.
No your not get a lawyer and keep that whole family from you and your daughter
360 degrees would actually be at the same point. 😂
Story 3 it's common sense and good manners to return a clean dish back to the owner
Different nationalities but being raised in the same country.
Makes sense.
Last story... I wouldn't make dessert for them, just bring your own delicious food (as my grandsons call it when they say grace) and eat it in front of them.
Unless they have an established relationship with the child,they don't have a legal leg to stand on. Run and go to somewhere new. He will try to take her without your knowledge!!!
Lazy, rude, and entitled is right.
Your not the Aho... it was him for not having the balls to confront you if he thought you had done something wrong.. another one that listened to a mother once you get married your wife becomes your number one not the mother
Story 2: that lady would have gotten slapped in the mouth for yelling at me over some bullshit about having a baby.
Petty point, but if you are 360 degrees away from them you are at the same place. That's how circles work.
Is your Dad supposed to vet a speech based on the History of every guest at the wedding? So does she stop watching TV shows where characters have pregnancies?
Story one: only reason they wanted custody was so they could get one up on OP again.
And because the MiL thought she could use OP as a grandchild farm, after all she put OP thru.
I bet she'll be kicking herself over that for the rest of her miserable life, but sbe deserves worse imo.
Story 2
I wish to congratulate you,I sure that guest is dramatic she should leave your wedding she selfish and I feel sorry for her she should not expect anyone to not talk about babies she wanted to lash out please ignore this woman and keep your distance,it was harmless is she going to abuse every pregnant women sadly we all don't have what we wish
My grandmother taught me that you never return an emty dish.
Story 3
They are rude and ungrateful it's good manners to return the dish clean in a restaurant
Story 1
I am so sorry you went through this terrible ordeal ,and you had to rear your daughter on your own and MIL is pure poison and don't allow your ex husband for coming back after his mother telling such toxic lies ,he doesn't deserve you or your daughter and he should have found out the truth,I have no pity for him he owes you ex number of years of child support and never allow that horrific woman to get near your child he has not a leg to stand on you would have to consent to DNA and the fact he disappeared and she was poison and his unstable like his mother and get a restraining order against them report everything he did and congratulations on your success of rearing your child
Why are people replying with "NTA" when all the OP did was share their story? Did the person as if they were the A? Or is NTA already turned into a dumb meaningless word to use regardless of what the person posting says, or what subreddit they posted on? Looks very odd.. I've seen now NTA used even in posts where people just ask for legal advice or a "what would you do if you wanted xxx car but can only get yyy for your sons birthday?" And then the comments start with "NTA", like what?
That last story is absolutely ridiculous. After the second time I would have just stopped taking in food. This is totally petty and childish all around 🤦🙄
NTA it’s your child not his
Story 2. So dad’s speech was not about OP but was maliciously aimed at one of the guests? Wow! I guess dad was just being an asshole instead of a proud father hoping to have grandchildren.